College Student Earns 4.0 GPA, Then Drops Out: "You Are Being Scammed!"

You need a university degree to make any money programming

We need the universities to be worth enrolling in again. Being open marxist brainwashing centers ain't gonna do it.

No.

This is a fucking meme, and helped pushed the streetshitter invasion. Computer science is a worthy college persuit. Do not be a poo-in-loo prgrammer. Learn computer science not "programming.".

I remember people bitching in the 90's that experience working in a field will beat over a degree every single time. Now there's so many more people with degrees yet work as waiters. Just find a labor job and go from there. After 4 years of proving yourself you'll be making more than the fresh bachelor's students could dream of starting at. After 8 years, you can qualify as a foreman if not manager, and match the post-graduates too.

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Dropped. You learn this shit in high school. Math illiterate faggots need to be gassed.

(Heil Hitler)

You're dubs speak true. If you can resist Jewish programming, there's nothing wrong with university. I was a STEMfag in university, and graduated a while ago. I was not bombarded with any Jewish bullshit, at least, not in my STEM only courses. If you aren't a biologist, or a mathematician or something, of course you'll get hit with Jewish/Marxist brainwashing. Realistically, if you don't subject yourself to it for a degree, you'll be stuck as a construction worker or something.

If connections are what you're after, just join a Lion's/Elk's Club or something similar. A lot more loyal and friendly people and you don't have to pay thousands for it. A hell of a lot less poz too.

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On college for that currently. All the teachers have all tons of experience from work or owning their own companies. Best thing yet, it pretty cheap too and I won't be in debt when I'm done.
Learning a shitton too, but I suppose I'm having are case of luck.

Yeah that candidate does deserve the trash can.

So you're admitting that the only reason to go to college nowadays is to get a piece of paper saying you went there.

He's pointing out the wrong things.
He did one semester, nailed it, and said it sucks. I don't disagree with his point, but he's showing it in a bad way.

His point is that it's expensive. That it has increased more in price then the average income. While true, it doesn't show any of the underlying points. How it's easy, how it's a bunch of shitty degrees that's not even worth the paper they're written on.
He does mention that the teachers (should be lecturers) sucks. That's true, but it's hidden away from the "YOU PAY FOR SHIIIIIIIIIT!"

Also, the
I would say that the quadratic formula is more important to know (understand) then "marriage" and taxes for a college student.
I don't know what type of education he applied for, if it was engineering. I'd say general math is very important. If it was "chad-like behavior for chad-like people such as Chad", then maybe not.
Colleges shouldn't be a modern babysitter and teach people how to be adults through its classes. But the first semester should be somewhat easier then the rest. Simply due to how it's a big adjustment, and people get comfortable at different rates.
That isn't to say it shouldn't be requirements, but it shouldn't be a barrier either. I don't know how it is in America, but in Norway you can fail a lot and still go to the next semester. And you have by law 3 attempts at the exam in a course before you have to apply through a letter and hope for a 4th (and more) attempt.

So failing a first semester course isn't the end of the world, nor are they hard enough for you to struggle if you need to take them again after a few semesters.

m8, if you're going to try to make a dank point about not needing college, don't make yourself look like a dipshit.

Certifications are a thing too you dummy.

I don't really get his beef about the books, I had to do that 's few times in undergrad, but it shouldn't be that common. In law school it's common as fuck, but you can get deals if you shop around 's bit.

The general education classes, I'm indifferent to, people should know basic concepts on subjects, so they aren't fooled into bullshit later in life.

You can "practical" skills in help groups, not that I did though, for things like taxes and marriage, as he claims. I mean doing your taxes is confusing as shit, but the instructions really help, or ask your dad or mom or anybody else you know who does them for a hand.

It's always been that way. It's a scam, but no company will hire you without a piece of paper. It certified that you aren't a lying piece of shit.

As if HR-Stacey gives a damn about your "open source" unless it's a source of beer for the weekend.

Why do you waste your time taling to the HR ? Just invite the boss to eat something and talk to him.

Ignore some of my errors, on my phone.

College is a Jewish shell game.

Enjoy your college debt, faggots.

Don't forget the firm handshake and to look him in the eye, grandpa.

Don't blame me because you're too stupid to get a job.

It isn't 1965 anymore. Who actually thinks a manager or hiring person would go out to eat with you? Are you delusional?

I mean I dont really understand what he means by the first one but in any accounting major you're going to learn how to do taxes lol.

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Yeah fuck this guy. College is a scam but not for that.

Stop with the buzzwords for a second and start the jew like nepotism.

Someone was doing an art degree, if you can't use the quadratic formula you can't do your poles and zeroes on a digital filter, which means no fucking filter, which means no fucking digital anything. Ok, so you use a maths package if you don't want to be doing it on A3 paper but you need to know what's going on when shit inevitably fucks up.

Not worth anything.

There are too many college grads for the ammount of jobs, but this reeks of "why would you ever need to understand how things work or how to modify them, just sit back and let the technocrats make it "just work""

Hell if we could stop the importation of Pajeet's that would help the job situation

Nobody to blame but myself tbh.

If I could turn back time…

Electricians carry the lightest toolbag. You might be able to join a union with no degree

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1. He's an idiot.
2. You don't have to buy textbooks from the campus bookstore.
3. Electives are part of education. If all you ever learn is what's required for your personal career, then what the fuck will you ever have to talk about?
4. lol Kansas State

Posts like this are a diamond dozen. It's a doggy dog world out there and I don't mean to add assault to injury but people like you probably won't make it.

idioms are truly the great equalizer of intellect

math courses in next semester were too hard tbh

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Is that what passes for an anthropology course these days? My first semester was eng101, college algebra, networking technology, and programming logic.

He is right about being better off though. A month on the job is better than four years trying to stay awake during power-point presentations.

Also you don't need paper to get a job (it wont help at all in most cases), you need connections.

Let me guess; community college? Once you get past second year and land in "academia" proper things change. Most of my technical instructors at the local CC were current city IT employees getting a bonus check or recently retired from industry. At uni 99% of them were graduates who just never left school

What a dumbass, math is pure and logical in a way nothing else compares. If you can't remember a simple formula they drill into you in middle school you shouldn't be in college. Degree inflation is a problem though so maybe the people who would agree "oh yeah I hate math " will decide not to go to college from this and get married instead. Marriage and taxes and home economics and all that should be taught again in high school as a senior capstone class to prepare people for the world rather than cramming for college applications and SATs. And the overt Marxist bullshit can help us, being exposed to Latino supremacy, cultural Marxism, anti white rhetoric, and the inherently repellant concepts of "deconstruction" and post modernism are what started me on the path from being your average apolitical liberal normie to full NatSoc radicalization over these past 5 years. I went from totally uninformed and vaguely liberal to fiscally conservative culturally liberal libertarian to standard republican neoconservative who started redpilling myself on race and secretly listening to Skrewdriver then found Holla Forums which awared me on the JQ and the truth about National Socialism. Rockwell got radicalized through college as well, I feel like if you aren't totally demoralized and brainwashed by the time you enter college you will reject the indoctrination and those with strong amygdala disgust responses to this stuff become Nazis.

Top kek that's literally the dumbest degree you can get you just sit around talking with retarded thots

WHAT IS HAPPENING?!

I don't know what the fuck he means by class on marriage but I assume most colleges offer accounting 101. He's not wrong that gen ed courses are the biggest load of shit imaginable.

lolwut

Looks like Something wants us to STEM and/or useful trades. Nothing like a large scale disaster to get those construction contracts a flowing.

Enter the stock market or make investment in rental properties. If you can understand and follow trends, you'll make good money in the market. If that not to your liking, just fucking buy a chess molding set and sell custom chess. It make an alright profit if your sell themed chess pieces.

Im poor and going to school for engineering ive learned useful skills, networked, done internships, and have access to a shop to build shit that i cant do at home but apparently its all worthless and i should drop out

That'd be nice, hasn't happened to me yet. :(

Laugh all you want faggot. If you limp fish me I'm not hiring you. If you avert your eyes when I make eye contact its a sign of dishonesty.

become a electrician. its fairly simple to understand, its light work and pays well

I paid off my college debt within 2 years of graduation. Debt is just like anything else in life: you can handle it if you know what you're doing, otherwise, hire someone to do it for you. The people with crushing lifelong debt from college are the same people who sign a 10 year lease on a car. It's not an American thing, it's a stupid thing.

I've honestly only ever heard it referred to as "the quadratic equation" because it flows better.

Professors are running new games now. They like to come out with new editions every year so students have to buy brand new books, and of course they sell them overpriced on places like Amazon also.

I'm sure I can find "things to talk about" that aren't priced in the thousands.

That's solid advice. It can be a career or a part-time job while in college. It's also a very secure profession.

Crushed. That post made me cringe also.

Electives aren't priced as such. I should also point out that it's in those elective classes where people socialize the most. We are a social species and a class like Phi101 allow us that opportunity.

If you're paying for college anyway, why not get some gravy with your meat?

Getting a degree has become a way for a lot of people to pay their way out of natural selection. Dull, uncreative, and untalented people are trying to offset those deficiencies with an expensive piece of paper. If you've got intelligence, determination, and self-discipline, you will find a way to make a decent living whether you have a degree or not. That's not to say a degree can't be an asset to a smart and determined person, but there are a shitload of people who are being duped because they are dopes who think that having a degree will guarantee success in the absence of having any capabilities or talents.

I used to wonder why the people with degrees are working at starbucks for minimal wages instead of in the countless trades that are hiring. It's because they can't think outside the box. They're just going through the motions, and they never stop to think "if I put my mind to it, I can work out a better plan". They serve coffee because all their other dumb friends are serving coffee. Dumb hicks with no education are doing better at life than them. The problem isn't so much that the degrees are worthless, it's that those people are worthless. They wouldn't be doing any better if they had a STEM degree. Serving coffee is all they will ever be good for. The people who know they are worthless and serve coffee with no degree and no debt are actually the smarter ones.

I'm never getting my time back

1) The first few semesters are the easiest.

2) You can play the system for scholarships and aid, if you aren't retarded. There are also ways to avoid buying the most expensive books too.

3) Classes like college algebra are not meant to teach you useful information; however they are meant to teach you how to think logically.

4) experience is far more valuable than a degree. The problem is that you can't get hired in any high paying field without a degree.

jesus christ, how about you socialize outside of class you fucking mong

There's that problem again.

Yes, you will; but that's not what life is about. Nobody actually gives a shit how much money you make. They really don't. You can flash all the cash you want and the only people who will take notice are prostitutes. Education isn't about money. Believe me, there is a world of difference between someone who is "smart" and someone who is "educated".

His point was that you can't just go in and talk to a hiring manager at most midsized organizations. Alot of companies seem to deliberately prevent this to give the HR drones an excuse to draw a paycheck.

Don't get me started on the online applications and their personality indices.

Let me guess: You're one of those "smart guys" who "don't need no edumcashun". You sound like a nigger.

You're missing the point entirely. Our civilization is suffering from debt enslavement, and these useless unaffordable courses are fueling it. These people who we are wasting resources on are not in an appropriate line of training, and should stop smoking weed reading Marx and go learn to fix or build something. We don't need more Phil100 classes so people can pay money to socialize, we did that collectively for them in K-12. Go to a park, or a function, or an event, or a job, or hell even a bar… and socialize. You are certainly paying thousands for "required electives" by the credit hour. If they wanted well rounded socialized individuals, the civics is the course they need… but you'll find that has been replaced by several variants of Poz101 because the game is about controlling populations, not benefiting individuals.

He is not wrong. Some of these people can not even enter their address correctly when ordering things online.

I don't even make that much annual gross salary per year and I have a master's degree. Shit is crazy. That would take more time to pay off than my house.

lol, poor life choices. I'll break 100k this year, and I've got a B.S..

Different country, I'm sure.You make more than highest paid doctors here.

More and more companies are abandoning these anyway because they don't work. They end up filtering out perfectly honest and normal people, while dishonest sociopaths are the only people manipulative enough to slide through telling you what you want to hear.

Congrats for proving his point right.

Not disagreeing with the kid but he sounds like a typically smug book-smart douche that thinks that because he studies hard and aces tests that he is actually really smart.

As others have stated, your 4.0 GPA comes from a bunch of gen.ed courses that are meant to be passed.

Genuinely good points

I agree in principle, but home economics should be taught in high school not university.

Burger master race.
varg was right, our standard of living is artificially high and will collapse soon
preps internally

says the yid feebly trying to justify money and time wasting gen ed courses

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I'm not sure what you mean, what country?

We need to find someway to end businesses enabling this system when they put up education barriers toward employment.
Obviously some fields absolutely justify higher education, but the vast majority do not and are doing it out of laziness/cheapness of avoiding the need to do training or taking a "chance" on someone self-taught.
It's really terrible that you can no longer find employment with gumption, alone, even jobs that are the lowest rung are getting really picky.
This is a big problem.

what the fuck

In all honesty, more power to you. I'd probably be in the same situation as you if I were born over yonder. It's been weird having burger friends for about 15 years who are now churning out 100-200k paychecks. It's absurd in some way.

But from what I've heard on average and from my friends, life is much more work-based, more work, longer days, less vacations. I for example get eight weeks off per year which is pretty nice.

Dog-eat-dog you mean?

Keked

very autistic you mean.

OMG this! I took Calculus 2 twice at uni and failed both times. The first professor had a thick asian accent, and the second one sounded like the teacher from Jimmy Newtron.

Why didn't you just read the book or a book? Math books that aren't Stewart or Larson are very well written for understanding the material. You can blame the professor for not teaching, but you must blame yourself for failing.

I learned the quadratic equation in 5th grade, and my parents forced me to do my own taxes when I was 14. Went to Catholic highschool, so marriage is more than covered. Teaching this in college would be a retarded waste of money.

This sounds like a Chad who was just going for a vanity degree like humanities tbh. He is why college is shit.

Baby's first life lesson. At least he picked up on it before getting a couple years into it.

You need some kind of income to continue living, if you're not planning to leech off taxpayers or live on the street. Yes, money isn't everything, but you do need some of it. That's just reality. When I say decent living, I mean making enough money to get by and put away a little for the future. You can do that on a pretty small wage, if you're creative. It's not so much the dollar amount that you make, but how you use it. The 45 year old woman serving coffee with no degree lives modestly, and is fine with her lot, because she's set up her life around that. The 27 year old hipster serving coffee thinks he's a victim, because he can't afford the newest iPhone every year and he thinks he's entitled to a high paying job because he took African Studies in school. He will never escape that mentality, because he doesn't have the capacity.

I basically agree with what you're saying, since a "successful" life is largely based on mindset. Whether you put your mind to living on a modest wage, or on making a higher wage, you can do it if you've got the mental drive to do so. The aforementioned hipster doesn't do either of those things, and that's why he's a failure. I have plenty of respect for the people who live modestly on a low wage. They're doing things that need to be done, and they're not complaining or whining about it.

Personally, my goal is actually to set up my life so that I have the freedom to make less money. I'm not interested in working so that I can afford more expensive things. I want to use my money efficiently, so I don't have to be locked into a certain career, or get on my knees and suck corporate dick to survive. If I'm asked to go through anti-white-male diversity training, and I'm not in a position to say "fuck you" and keep my dignity, I'm doing it wrong.

tell me again why i'm wasting my time

It is a very rare individual who earns a 4.0 GPA at uni doing something worthwhile. Since this guy shittalks the most basic of math, I'm sure he was taking retard classes. So he came to the right conclusion for the wrong reasons.

College is a scam, but how many STEM grads could have gotten their jobs just by showing up and telling their boss "I know my shit, trust me?"

Someone has to support Holla Forums. Why won't you work so they can live to study and discuss Communism?

Lol those faggots actually think of themselves as proles when the majority don't work and live off mommy and daddy because fuck working for the man!

I learned the Quadratic in early HS myself. Learning how to do taxes should be something that's taught in grade school, and I honestly can't see why marriage would require schooling on any level.

This guy is, indeed, a fucking moron. And this is coming from someone that fell for the college meme.

Wow, it's almost as if people who still are in uni continue going for major dependent courses that teach them how to do their potential careers. Really makes ya think….

I'm not him, but this is an International Board and not everybody is a Native English Speaker™.
There are endless grammar mistakes here and that's not going to end anytime soon.
Actually, some bullshit study tried to measure the IQ of 4cuck boards back in the day using Grammar, and Holla Forums got last place with 89 or so.

8k is nothing. Kids are coming out of school now regularly with 80k in debt. You point is idiotic.

Median student debt is around 30k. 80k is for idiots who try to become lawyers or something equally stupid.

Having a 4.0 in your first semester is meaningless. The headline makes it seem like he went almost 4 entire years with it. Anyone can pull straight A's the first semester if they take their studies seriously. College is still a scam but this kid hasn't done something amazing or unbelievable here.

You don't have any choice regarding books. The professor demands you buy them and you must oblige. (Yes, you could share. You'll think it's a great idea until you need to study for finals.) As a result, you have $200 textbooks.

college is great for richfags and poorfags on special diversity scholarships. the middle class? not so much.

Bullshit. What you need is proven experience. You won't be offered as much money for the same work as a college grad, but business is desperate for qualified developers. Why do you think the H1B debacle exists in the first place?

Get smart nigger. I didn't buy a single book for uni after the first year. I torrented everything.

Because they want cheap labor that can't complain or quit without being deported.

Because they can get employees who can't leave the company because doing so means they'll get deported and because of this they can pay them a shit wage and overwork the fuck out of them

True, for all intensive purposes.

This. You're a chump if you buy a single book before the semester even begins. You wait for the teacher to go over the syllabus. If they say you dont need a book, bitchin. If they say you do, you torrent that shit.

Sure, college is a scam, but good luck getting a decent job without it as they're full of people who went to it and don't want to feel like they wasted their time or money + want to feel superior to people who didn't go to college and disallow them to have the same opportunities.

Also the job market is getting ever tighter, so even if you're a genius you'll compete against others with degrees who will always get the job instead of you.

Getting a low cost college degree is therefore a smarter move imo.

But fuck those professors forcing you to purchase something for online components or a textbook they authored and can't torrent.

Have to agree. 4.0 in first semester of some 101 bullshit classes (or possibly even lower pre-100 level shit.

American colleges are tailored to help nigger women survive. Being a white male and doing well in an American college is like Gordon Ramsay making whoppers.

Your pic is why I got a reading burnout in highschool.

Fuck literature teachers and their bullshit interpretations.

Im just gonna leave this here

The country of you're fucking new here leave and don't return or lurk more faggot-istan

I started at 2 weeks, currently at 3 weeks, and in two years I'll have 4 weeks (plus holidays, and 5 personal or sick days). Eight weeks could be why your country is importing shitskins to do labor you think? The welfare statism of Europe is just as unsustainable as Americas level of consumption (fueled by deficit spending, and trade deficits). There is a happy medium in there where you work for what you consume BEFORE you consume it, and your primary welfare is derived from your multiple children growing up and taking care of you in your old age.

Meh. It's a very unpopular policy socially and politically. Congress only allowed in the first place because of graft. Dry that fucking well up and see what happens next heh.

BTW, neither one of you addressed the basic point: YOU DON'T NEED A FUCKING DEGREE to succeed as a software developer. But you do need talent.

Eh there's really no need to do taxes in grade school. You should be getting your first job in your early teens, and that is a good time to start learning about finances and stuff.

Ok god damnit, you're doing this on purpose and its making me twitch.

It's a doggy dog world, dude, and people like you are a diamond dozen.

affirmative action in action. the perverse financial incentives, i.e. government money, really needs to be put to a stop

It's a meme. Did you just find the internet this morning?

I lurk here daily and I don't come across this too often. I believe the first "doggy-dog" instance in this thread was a legitimate mistake.

I agree, but that wasn't the point you were making. pajeet is not uneducated, he went to the finest school in all of delhi. his talent though is certainly questionable, which is why he is only ultimately a temporary employee who will be replaced by his younger cousin in a few years and sent packing

The guy makes 3 facebook-mom tier points, struggles to think of anymore then just uses "I could think of more but I won't" as a 4th point.
Not that I'm defending Uni, it's a waste of money, but the guy is hardly making compelling arguments

Another prole is waking up to the reality of capitalism. You'll finish high school, you will wake up too.

This guy sounds like a fucking retard if he's complaining about math. I want to see what classes he took, because if he's writing like this and scored a 4.0, either KSU is absolute shit or he took the retard classes nigger athletes take while there.

Actually, let me add to that. BASIC math. Quadratic formula is something learned in first year of high school the latest.

I'm almost done with law school and I'll be about 90K in debt. If I had been able to live at home for all three years it'd be about 60-70K total for a law degree. I'll get about 75,000 from my school in merit based scholarship by the time I'm done.

I also came out of undergrad with zero debt from living at home and the Post-9/11 GI Bill and family support. Family is a key part to graduating with little to no debt. I also didn't qualify for the Pell Grant (GA). All in all I was lucky to have the family support.

I could see "social sciences" changing regularly but math, chemistry and other similar topics I don't see the need to update a book but maybe every 5-10 years, unless there is a massive sea change in a subject.

This is what highschool is for.

required reading on the subject:

milesmathis.com/main.pdf

that they convince all those below them that they know what they are doing. The entire structure is
maintained to support that illusion. The titles they give themselves, the prizes they create and award
themselves, the entire hierarchy is designed for that very purpose, lest anyone should have any doubts.
And that hierarchy is a built-in self-protection because the top jobs will go only to those who will not
attempt to question the structure. So the moment they feel that anyone—no matter how young or small—
is trying to question the structure, they will go to any lengths to humiliate and ridicule the infidels.

I'm pitting myself against the English department of a liberal college to hone my skills (and the kosher certificate will make my family smile at least). Hopefully I can also act as a sleeper cell for when we retake academia because it is as nightmarish as the memes portray.

Last semester I had a Lit. Studies course nominally about Poe and Dickinson. There were five Poe short stories in the syllabus itself and we barely ever discussed them in class. At least Dickinson got some attention and the class did change my opinion on her (ignore the stuff the feminists fawn over due to projecting their own misery and go to her uplifting poetry on life and willpower). Most class time was devoted to discussing emotions as the course was supposed to be centered on exploring emotionality in American gothic literature, however, most of this discussion was either so mundane as to be meaningless or taken from the additional readings the instructor chose. The very first additional reading was a high level queer theory treatise which would have been impossible for me to even read if I hadn't studied such things through our hatred and ridicule of those topics. Pretty much every reading was in the same vein of whiny liberal nonsense, including a chapter from a Gay Jewish professor's book on why society is based on the lie of continuity through the symbol of children and we should therefore say, "Fuck the future," and do whatever we want.

The most amusing part is that every instructor is completely blown away by my capabilities from essay writing to literary analysis to prose fiction. I've been called the "brightest student I've ever had" at least once with continual praise just below that mark. I have to assume that some of it is merely the hyperbole of liberal compliments, but what it truly makes me think is that my efforts are already monstrous compared to what my "peers" can produce. Of course, my GPA isn't perfect because I'm a hiki who refuses to participate in their community events, but I never cared about that in the first place.

I can't wait to make college great again.

That's kind of the point though. Why should you be forced to pay for classes that teach you what you already learned in HS?

I'm in my first year of college and I'm thinking about being a pathologist or at least something in the medical field. Any anons here with advice for me?

College is not a scam.
Shit degrees are a scam.

If you just focus on acquiring in-demand skills, college is more than worth it.

It didn't pay off tho

there is no point in going to college when you're just going to be heavily discriminated against in the employment market because YOU'RE A FUCKING WHITE MALE!

Even a half wit would see the value in community college for getting an associates over a university. By doing that, the degree cost for a bachelors is almost cut in half.

There ain't no trade school for medics. You have to go to college, so stick with it.

Ya just proved the point

I found this yesterday: archive.is/m2G7g
I haven't read the entire thing, but I like his AI book so it might be useful to anyone that's looking to self-teach.

If you choose to go to a university, you should do a work co-op (alternating semesters of school and work with the same company). It will provide you a decent source of income, practical work experience for yourself and your resume, and possibly a job offer when you graduate. If you also go to school in-state and apply for scholarships, you'll minimize (possibly eliminate) any debt you may have. They're still basically stealing your money, but it will probably be easier to find a job this way.

Regarding open-source contributions, interviewers/recruiters will sometimes ask for your github account (or similar), so at least some places care.

Is this what you tell yourself to justify living with your parents for life? Most of the people ITT are talking about their jobs/careers and we're all WHITE MALES!

But, hey, whatever helps you get NEETbux, amiright?

Be ready to get straight As legit in everything unlike he faggot in OP's post. You'll be competing with a lot of Indians (and Asians?) who are also going attempting to go into medical school.

In your defense, it is a 4chan meme, so it's not used around here much. It's an old copypasta.

back to reddit

Haha wow, calm down chuckefuck.

Jesus christ, you millenials are such fucking pussies, that is hugbox-tier shit.
youve only helped his argument by pointing out that college is nothing more than a overpriced psuedoeducational daycare.

Make like a tree and get the fuck outta here

the fuck? I was taught algebra in 8th grade, geometry in freshman year.

You have to have english and communications along with humannitie etc. because its a Federal government requirements and man those are the most liberal classes I ever hand but when it was my engineering classes my teachers were hardcore country and Republican. Not a damn liberal in sight.

I never said I needed it but that's why the class is there. You can fuck off boomer cuck.

I mean, he's not wrong about college usually being bullshit(a degree is required for some STEM careers, but for anything else you're just throwing money away), but a 4.0 in your first semester is trivial.

Here is a schedule for the world where people aren't retard:
Basic understanding of wtf a number is. This can be done by relating numbers qualitatively to a real life object. as well as addition, multiplication, and exponentiation; Then, subtraction division + long division, and basic logarithms, i.e. no ugly numbers; Then, basic number theory; Then, basic geometry in parallel with basic algebra; Then some more algebra and basic counting & probability; Then algebra II first part and intermediate geometry; Algebra II second part and Intermediate Counting and probability; Then two routes, either go the olympiad route or the research route: For the first; Olympiad Algebra and Intermediate number theory; Olympiad Geometry and Olympiad Counting and Probability; Then it's really just doing lots of problems. For the second route: Introductory Analysis alongside introductory Abstract algebra; Analysis I, Abstract Algebra I, … then whatever, after you finish these you can choose what you want.
This is about 10 years worth of material. Based off of the starting material, it can be started at 5 or 6. So, one could be that good by 16. Amazing what non-crappy schooling and a drive to learn could do.

This is bullshit. I work for multiple companies in the Bay Area, and many of them are hiring college drop-outs turned coders and starting out at 60-70k. Workday, for instance, has a special program where they especially hire drop-out or ex-military coders and then jump-start them in the corporate world.

The issue is that, like the public education K-12 machine, it hsa become less an educational institution and more of a business. There's a lot of "required classes" and Gen Ed. bullshit that coult be taken out to save the student time and money and help expedite the process of getting a degree (why learn Anatomy when your major is Accounting or CIS?). And Many of the teachers are there solely for the paycheck and nothing more, so they give no fucks about th equality of education their students get. That said though, getting an education in areas like STEM or medicine isn't worthless, really. Frankly, there's no way to get in the medical field without any sort of degree/ certificate.

That woman should have enrolled in some bussiness courses instead of biology. Though it should be mandatory (in highschool, not college) to take a personal finance class.

Dubs confirm. Even programming internships can rake in the cash if you know the right people, I speak from personal experience.

Kansasfag and K-Stae grad here, I live right next to K-State so prepare for a shitty blogpost/rant about how awful this place is.
Manhattan, KS is surrounded by a fuckton of libshits, SJWs, and feminists. The nearby highschool just had some drama bullshit because a circlejerk of 10-20 people thought their mascot was raycis. A fucking anti-Trump rally was allowed on campus, and I have a friend of mine who tried a pro-Trump rally. He was forced off of campus and told not to pull that off again. The papers are pretty pozzed too, talking about muh diversity and muh LGBTWTFBBQ and how it's not shitting up the place. Needless to say, those articles are short. I could get one of the papers and scan them this week and post that shit here if you enjoy raging over things like that. Also the professors at K-State are dellusional as fuck, saying Trump's "literally hitler xd a waycis xd a bigot." I got into a small debate with one, who obviously skipped the actual facts and just resorted to calling me a ebil kkk slave owner. Dated some girl who left me because I supported Trump too. RWDS takeover when

This.

There is absolutely no point in paying top dollar for your first 2 years at a university. Live cheaply, knock out those lower level classes and general education requirements at your local community college. Live at home with your parents. Don't become a fuck-up.

I was an entitled shit straight out of college. I was living in the dorms on academic probation after my first quarter. I was dismissed after my 2nd quarter. Then I had to work for myself. Boy oh boy that was a wake-up call and the best thing that happened to me.

I eventually went back to community college, while working - paid my own way. Got my AA and AS. Then transferred to my univ. and paid my way (while still working) through my last 2 years.

However, for you younger types, or people with kids, this is my suggestion.

High school is a joke. It's a social playground full of degeneracy. If you are Holla Forums tier parent or HS student, take the GED at the end of sophomore year. Then enroll at your community college. Skip the last 2 years of bullshit high school. You'll be a junior in university when your peers are just graduating HS.

Ohhhh my sides.

so you guys are telling me i just wasted more money?

If you don't know jack shit about programming it might be worth it, depending on your teacher. I think the biggest advantage college students have is potential connections. Check if your university has company showcases. I go to Cal Poly in San Luis Obispo, and we have three: one for agricultural companies, one for general STEM, and one for software companies specifically.

Where the men are men
And so are the women
And the sheep are running scared.

Moron, I'm talking about the Facebook quote from the American trying to show why college is a scam. That guy sure is fuck is a native English speaker. Read the fucking OP. I didn't even quote to anyone here specifically which means that I was by default responding to OPs post.

Lel

i know a little about programming. what i like about the program is that you get internships throughout and there seem to be plenty of jobs in IT

hopefully that doesnt change before i finish

That being said, some salty liberals tore down the free speech wall that the young Republicans club erected.

This is a good sign, you'll learn more with IRL experience than anywhere else.

Working on my phd in the sciences now. I can't wait to become a professor and start making college great again.

what a faggot.
easy as shit to get A's on first semester.
should've went through 3 or 4 years then drop out in last semester
fucking faggot.

It really needed someone with a 4.0 GPA to say it? College is the most transparent scam I've ever seen.

Nigger, tech is the new math.
Teach them remedial math shit (ie, wtf a number is, addition, multiplcation, and other shit you need to not be a fucking retard), move on to algebra, maybe up to geometry but beyond that should be optional.
Shift our grade school focus away from natural science (a basic understanding of biology/anatomy is really all the average person will find useful) and put a much greater focus on project based learning about computers, electronics, sensors, actuators and all the other good stuff to allow people the basic knowledge to work with automated systems out of highschool.

Wew lad

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Only retards deny college is an over priced, liberal hellhole. But it is equally retarded to deny holding a college degree doesn't have measurable tangible financial benefits later in life.

There is this thing called "research" and "writing papers" you know

But that's wrong retard.

T.sys admin with no formal quals

So you're saying formal qualifications aren't a major plus when dealing with employers? Are you hearing yourself speak?

Yes but only investing yourself on just the "find and deduct" scheme instead of making things happen isn't the best.
You'll be limited to what is really happening and question yourself even less thus augmenting the possibility of errors.

Yes, in the I.T world that's exactly what I'm saying.

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Employers are just as disillusioned about college as you are.
You might be sitting comfy watching idiots come out with worthless sheets of paper and laughing, but employers actually have to provide the training these grads should have gotten in college to obtain the degree they showed up with.

If you can provide real examples of your work, it doesn't matter if you're a diagnosed downsie who dropped out of high school. You'll be right at the top of the list compared to the faggots who have a BS and nothing to show for it.

forbes.com/sites/louiscolumbus/2016/02/21/15-top-paying-it-certifications-in-2016-aws-certified-solutions-architect-leads-at-125k/#f63aca867029

Then you're dumb and wrong? How could that POSSIBLY be true?

usatoday.com/story/money/personalfinance/2014/08/30/wall-st-cheat-sheet-4-ways-to-increase-your-salary-potential/14761891/

better article.

And I'm not saying you can't succeed without certificates or a degree, but it is measurably harder. You really cannot argue against that…

because
Also note those are certifications, not degrees.
Certs are a plus, but only if you can't actually show them anything.

I can only talk from my own experiences and those of colleagues, but I started fresh out of school in a level 1 helpdesk traineeship position and slowly moved up over the years with the learning I did on my own time. I'm now 25. Most people I know in the tech world followed a similar route. The only thing employers care about, at least here in Australia is skill and experience.

Based.

We used to have those, it was called Church and good upbringing.

first semester k-state fag here
I'm getting my degree in animal science, so I spend as much time over in Weber and Call hall, hanging out with the cowboy types. Living in the dorms ive seen some serious sjw tier bullshit. We had a christian meetup group on our floor and it was banned because it "wasn't inclusive enough", yet they allow black lives matter shit.
I hope my degree isn't a meme degreee. God help me.

second post best post!

I agree that college is a scam, but this article isn't very high quality.

Here is one that I saw recently that does a better job breaking the issue down:

http ://archive.is/v5Sw6
https ://devinhelton.com/college-required

Do jobs that require college, really require college?

For civil engineering, I picked the first dozen presidents of the American Society of Civil Engineers who had a biography.
For law, I picked every Supreme Court Justice who sat between 1830 and 1870.
For mechanical engineering, I found a list of famous 19th century inventions and picked out fifteen inventors.
For business executives, I found a list of the “robber barons” from wikipedia.
For writers, I found a list of the best American novels.

I got over 4.0 first semester. My GPA has been declining linearly since then.

But I agree that college is a scam 99% of the time. Only STEM is worth it.

Physician's Assistant is a good middle-ground between Doctor and Nurse. High paying but not like Doctors, but it also isn't 7-8 years of fucking school.

I'm going to University for a Cybersecurity degree. I'm still in highschool ATM while earning uni credits. By the time I actually go to university as a freshmen I'll have about 67 credit hours (127 required for my major).

All these were paid for the the state, because it's post secondary. I am honestly glad I was homeschooled.

Cybersecurity is one degree that I will be able to pay back my dept. Forget computer science, go into cybersecurity if you can.

First, you say teach them remedial math shit, but I'm referencing to the curriculum for an actual 1st grader. It wouldn't be remedial. Also, I don't believe that should be done for a couple reasons:
1) I don't want that market to become oversaturated (it already is, but you get the point).
2) Not everyone is meant to be in STEM.
Also, please note that that schedule is just for math, you could do things in parallel with it (my post was more so a matter of curricula). I'm not too well spoken, but just imagine every kid you know trying to be leet 1337 programmer, that is the image that comes to my mind with what you said, and it disgusts me. Now, this doesn't mean I say "wait till you're 18 to decide what to do". Absolutely not, at 16 or even 13 it should be determined and proper courses should be in the students schedule such that by the time they are 18 they are capable.
I want to keep my Kool Kids Klub called STEM with normalfags kept to minimum, thank you.

Wow.

University is shit because I am too lazy and dreamtime and throwing sticks are better.

You mean STEAM stemtosteam.org/ :^)

oh my god. Not surprised RISD is behind this horseshit. Sam Hyde went there and said it was a complete waste of time.

as was I.
And i think math really isn't as important as it used to be. Basic algebra is all the average person needs
horse shit. there is a SHORTAGE of people able to work with automated systems. Web development, game design and crap like that are oversaturated, sure. But there is such a lack of people trained to work with microcontroller embedded systems that it is baffling how few people seek education in that field. That demand is growing as well.
Everyone can learn by doing. PLC syntax is very intuitive, wiring sensors and actuators is a matter of looking at a data sheet for 5 seconds. And a literal moron can BASIC which isn't actually used in the industry but is a great segway into whatever language they actually need to learn.

they won't be. tech isn't just programming, you know?
employers need grunts who can reliably switch out components without frying the thing in the process.

I don't think the government should get to decide what you do with your life. Especially not at 13 or 16. What im saying is technology is among the things EVERYONE should be somewhat competent in out of high school.

this faggot is a crackpot, look at this shit milesmathis.com/pi7.pdf

just because a sequence of curves converges pointwise to a limit curve doesn't mean the curve lengths themselves converge to the length of the limit curve. deal with it faggot. pic related

Because if you're taking any classes worth shit, you aren't taking those classes. Even gen eds requirements have harder classes that cover them. It's his fault he didn't take calculus or something more advanced.

DIRECTLY RELATED

The fact that he made a "4.0" should have been entirely thrown away, its virtue signalling that he's smart and what he says is fact/has more weight. Anyone can get a 4.0 their first semester (like I did almost), but I agree most college is an entire waste. Even stem, everything is theories (only spoken, never actively practiced, or just small scale tested-verified), lab testing, reports, paperwork, autistic homework. You learn a broad range of crap, and your job only focuses on 1 particular part. Tldr if you have no connections and a bad gpa you aren't getting a job in your industry ever. Thank fucking globalism, immigrants, H1b's, and chinese, vietnamese, and 100 other-country graduates that are here to parasite everything.

You already learn algebra in high school. Also geometry, trigonometry, analytical geometry. Maybe even calculus, if you took AP class.
So rehashing the same thing in college is a waste of time and money. If you're going into science or engineering, then you can just load up on calculus in your first college year, but otherwise you do what, one semester of statistics maybe and then there's nothing worth taking because like he said, you won't use those classes.
Heck, I never even used calculus for any of my IT jobs, which include sysadmin and software dev (and not just web stuff). In contrast, I asked my very first year at university to take linear algebra, because I wanted to write my own 3D engine, and the staff said "no, you have to take all these calculus and differential equations classes first". I should have dropped out of the program right then and re-registered as independent student. But this was a long time ago, and fees weren't nearly as high as today…

I'm a white nationalist that lives near k state, and I just have to say, that guy is probably just a rural student who does well. K state is shit for a lot of reasons but the main one is they don't let you take capstone courses until you pay for the lower level stuff, they don't give you an option to test out of it, just so they can Jew you for more shekels

This is pretty standard in universities across the country. My university didn't let me test out of courses either.

I think that's more what the guy on the OP is talking about when he calls college a scam. They don't really care about educating or enlightening individuals, instead state colleges use education as a source of revenue, and that leads to all the problems we have with higher education. That guys probably a normie, that is just ending up seeing the corruption. Of course it's also a natural extension of the Jewish influences in education, which is why there's such a huge vocal backlash on his post in Facebook for people who live and learn here. Can't let people critique flawed systems or they might ask too many questions!

Lets be honest goys, he went to a fucking state UNI.

I bit the bullet with the help of my father to attend a Technical Institute to learn engineering. Sure it involves thousands of dollars of debt but these guys literally only hire teachers with a decade plus of experience in the field.

Shit is intense because I'm actually learning and expected to design and understand the shit that goes on out on the field, but that's what companies want.

You are responsible for creating your future. If you go to a state uni or arts school, you're scamming yourself.

Anyway I agree that the price of college courses is extremely inflated but the point of going to college/uni isn't just to "learn" things that you'll be using in your career. Engineers learn a fuck tonne of things and depending on their chosen sub field of work they won't be using 70% what their degree covered. However, the fact that they successfully completed that degree proves that they are capable of working in a team environment, can figure out complex problems independently and have enough self motivation to succeed. This is what employers are looking for first and foremost.

If you're the bestest goy who actually buys the expensive texbooks instead of torrenting them and go to a uni that forces you to take gen ed courses you only have yourself to blame.

Also, reading through the thread I'm glad to see a few other k state faggots here. Knowing Theres a few Holla Forums users in town feels good man.

That defeats the purpose of paying thousands of dollars for an education. If you are too stupid or immature "to handle the big move" then you don't belong in college.

What are you a nigger?

You're not American, are you?

Whom are you talking to? Some dumb slut in HR or an actual developer? Because if it's not the dumb bitch, then they won't give a fuck about college, only what you can do.

Posts like these makin' me smile. thank ye.

What this guy says. Read, practice and skip class.

Reminds me of degree inflation. The funniest I have heard/watched is a dude with a mechanical engineering degree working at a bar.

Doesn't help with state finances when these elective courses are required that the state is paying through financial aid.

STEM degrees
completely unrelated to comp sci
taught my self to code
employers knew that and loved me.

How will we ever beat the jews if we don't fund their universities with out money? Kill yourself goon. We beat them by delegitimizing universities to the point where a person without a degree is worth more then an idiot who got into debt for a useless piece of paper and companies hire based on interviews and IQ tests.

Lawrencefag here, though not KU grad (even worse, Nebraska). All campuses are liberal shit-fests, always have been. Back in the early 80s when I was an undergrad, all the liberals were pissing themselves over Reagan. Now it's Trump. Same shit, different decade.

As someone who hires engineers, I do care very much about education. College should teach you how to think. It wouldn't hurt if along the way you also learned the damned language (how to speak and write it properly) and maybe some math as well. I give zero fucks about specific knowledge, since that shit becomes useless almost immediately anyway.

I hire people to solve problems that don't have answers in the back of the book. Programmers and others who have to be spoon-fed are totally fucking useless to me. That's what street-shitters are for, useless cocksucking scum that they are. I need people that can actually think and solve problems that have never been solved before. A decent college education should teach you how to do this.

Also, college is useful for making connections, but only if you work at it. Everything in life depends on having the right connections, make no mistake about it.

Finally, even subjects like philosophy and history can be useful if you have a decent professor. Learning how to know when you are being lied to is a skill I see in very few young people nowadays. When I was young, the nation was scared shitless of communists. As a result the kids of my generation were taught all about propaganda in junior high, lessons that prove especially valuable now that it's America we need to worry about as the master propagandist, not Russia (although let's not kid ourselves about that too much).

TLDR: you get out of college what you put into it; this kid obviously didn't do much of either.

That's the difference.

This. I haven't bought a textbook since 2012 and if i did it was $10 shipped from india. I'm EE PhD.

Only in the Greatest Country In The World (TM)

lol

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I'm a millennial. I went to a state university. Got a job my first week on campus, working on campus. Worked 25-30 hr/week through graduation. Never went out, never ate out, never went on "spring break," never bought toys, trendy clothes, or a car. Scanned and laser printed all my text books, lived in cheap ass dorms so I didn't need a car. Graduated in 3.5 years with money in the bank and a full time employment offer from the university.

I think the real problem here is that millennials don't realize that college isn't high school 2.0 – they're out in the real fucking world as soon as they're in college. Yeah, it looks and feels like it's just 13th grade+ ,and you can even go through it like it's another high school but the cost of that is going deep in debt by the time you graduate. I have very little sympathy for any indebted students who are 'having fun' in their college years. Those were some of the most stressful, tightly packed, poorest days of my life.

Low voltage tech/telecom. Don't want to discourage you from becoming an electrician, its a great job, but if you can't pull wire you will have a hard time finding someone to hire you initially.

Go to technical school and learn IT.

You're both in STEM and able to work? How do you do that? My courses last around 35-40 hours a week and exams are usually structured in such a way, that you won't learn it from just the pdf's - you also need first hand knowledge from the lectures or else the best you can hope for is barely pass.

t. STEMfag in eastern Europe.

I'm literally shaking right now

What's wrong with hard and honest work? The 4th reich should be run by people who know what the fuck they're doing. A piece of paper isn't gonna change that

Do elaborate on this.

Computer Science is not a scam. I make shitloads of money with my B.S. degree, and I can tell you that in the field, it's quite obvious which programmers have Computer Science degrees and which ones don't. Don't let Elite Pajeet trick you: an American with a degree in Computer Science is going to do quite well.

Buy a scanner. Buy books used from campus book store. Scan all the books to PDF and put it on your tablet. Return books within 24 hours or whatever the policy is for full money back. "Oops I got the wrong books."

A lot of schools have Algebra separated into Algebra I and II, that's probably what he means.

I am amazed at how this isn't said more often, i am in the 4 semester in college and every single one of my peers have already forgotten things they supposedly "learned" in the first semester.

What the hell America, I learnt that in year 10 and I was dumb as a rock.

When our down syndrome friendly education system in Australia can laugh at you, you're doing something wrong.

burger here, I learned the quadratic formula in highschool as well. Honestly I am a math tutor at my college now. I can tell you that most people coming into college aren't really supposed to take college algebra, they only take that if they really need to redo a class. Most of them start with Calc 1 (mostly a recap from high school) and then go on to Calc 2 and maybe Calc 3.

too obvious cut it down to a single mistake next time

That's an awfully retarded thing to say.

The hero we deserve

Professor Doom is the best. Out of all the people I have read he nails down what is ailing todays higher education institutions.
For anons that would like to read more of his writing.

professorconfess.blogspot.com

When I was in college, a friend of mine was a math tutor. He was shocked at how many people that came in for tutoring in algebra or calculus I and couldn't even add fractions. He was spending more time explaining fractions to retards than he was helping people with actual college level math. He ended up printing out slips of paper (at his own cost) with the url for a website explaining basic fraction math to hand out to all the retards that came in.

I know how to use the internet, but if someone has a source, it'd be greatly appreciated.

Btw. we cracked the $1 trillion student debt ceiling in 2013, so that means that we added another 126 billion in student debt in just three years.

Jingoistic commercial related.

There are lots of people that come in for basic algebra, and yes fractions are hard for them. But keep in mind the people who come in for tutoring are those that need extra help so there's a bit of a skewed sample. But from my experience, people either come in for tutoring for very basic algebra, or very basic calculus, and almost nothing else. At the high level math classes, they've usually developed the skills to not need help.

Follow these easy steps for no debt technology career success by age 25!
1. Do enough self-study (try to at least get an A+ on your own) to be able to get an entry level position before going to college.
2. Work for 2-3 years in that entry-level position while saving your money and expanding your skill-set through self study (Protip: If this entry level job has a 401k option or better yet matches a 401k max that shit out, you can roll it over into an IRA after the job and use it to pay tuition without being taxed).
3. After you have a decent chunk of change saved up (by not only saving money but taking care of every non-loan financial aid program you can) go to a university, personally I chose to get the bullshit credits done at a community college and the tech related classes at a more upscale university.
4. Never go into debt always pay in cash, if you run out of money take a break from college and go work more till you can go back.
5. Never buy books, always pirate or rent them.
6. ???
7. You'll likely spend 6-7 years doing this process at a maximum, but it is possible to have a degree, a good foundation of work experience and no debt by age 24-25 without any help from anyone, I know because that's how I did it.
8. Laugh at all the dumb people your age with 90k in debt and little job experience trying to get a house and/or start a family.

THE MITOCHONDRIA
IS THE POWERHOUSE OF THE CELL

If you need help with basic algebra you shouldn't be anywhere near university.

You're young, son, decades before you were born, programmers were self-learning their trade already. Learning programming at a college is a huge waste of time, and money. This is the kind of stuff you ought to do by yourself.

user, adding fractions is fifth grade math. How did these people get through high school? Lots of these people were already in cal 1. How did they get through precal/trig?

When i did calculus I in the first semester i didn't knew how the function notation worked ( my high school teacher never taught me ).

The preceding twelve years of compulsory education was also a waste, apparently.

Universities are a classic case of one field receiving too much power. You're told your whole life that you need to do well in college to be successful. I know a ton of kids who think they're smart because they focus on class while other people skim by and live their lives. These people are idiots because they don't realize they're wasting there time because:

Some major problems with the Computer Science degree alone (this applies to 90% of schools)

CS is such a joke because schools baby the fuck out of it, where you graduate knowing as much as a fucking pajeet and can be replaced at any moment by one. It could be a respectable major except it's become to go-to major for people who dedicate their entire lives to anime and video games but are smart enough to realize that going into game design is a stupid idea. So naturally schools want to keep their audience.

Aside from the degree you get at the end, there isn't a single thing you learn in college for programming that you can't learn on your own. It's free, and you can learn much faster since you don't need english, history, or other filler$

I like how the post literally right after my post confirms CS degrees are a waste.

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I am doing CS and i have met the exact same problems, other thing that pisses me off are Professors forcing groups of 3~4 students to work together on a project just so they can have less stuff to review and grade.

Only twice in the 15 to 20 such projects i done since joining the university i was not forced to work with a bunch of depressed nerds that left every single thing to the last 3 days before the deadline.

Here's how it actually works, user:
Most people who work in the tech industry have no college degree and those who do would've gotten a tech job without it. Once you have a tech job you have a career as long as you continue to invest in yourself.

If I could do relive my life I would learn a trade instead. Don't fall for the college meme you highschool plebs.

THIS

I went to college, got a STEM degree, and am having to learn a trade anyway. If I had known I wouldn't have racked up that massive debt. I'm basically learning a trade so I can have enough money to pay off those damn loans. My current shit service job has me living at home like a fucking teenager.

Well, shieeeeet, after my 4 year slavic high school education I learned to

Useful life skill if i ever saw one.

Physics are kiked with Einstein. But, they also are pretty good at just doing regular shit.

I'm three semesters in, $0 in debt, but getting too damned close to ending that streak. The kid isn't wrong. College is the biggest fucking waste of time and money imaginable. It'd be kinder just to put a gun to my temple and rob me outright, as opposed to having me spend the better part of a week working to gain money in order to spend it and have my time wasted by some faggot liberal teacher.

And of course the greatest insult is that for the first two years (four semesters) you pay to learn shit you were supposed to have learned in high school for free. What's a man to do? College fucks you in the ass unless you're some mud colored ne'er-do-well, but you need a piece of paper to land a job that doesn't involve touching shit with your hands or hearing old folks complain about not enough/too much sauce.

I was robbed of a future, now I'm being robbed a present. Fucking kikes, I swear to God..

Sales. You make money. You just need to have some hustle. I never went to (((college))) and I make $150K a year

Oh, and let me say too that if you go to an out of state college, prepare to relearn shit you learned in 8th grade. I was born and raised in Georgia, went to college in AZ, and until the very ass end of my second semester, the math classes covered shit my public high school covered in 10th grade. It's god damned stupid

I finished a year and dropped out. I wasn't learning anything interesting and i constantly got bored and distracted. sorry future i guess :^)

i found this one to be of note:
professorconfess.blogspot.com/2016/12/trump-u-opens-up-20-trillion-lawsuit.html

You came to the wrong place, redditard. The only groups bringing the US down to a lower IQ are identity-politic Marxists living in their parent's house or run-down communes, the massive amount of third-world tier spics, poo-in-loos, chinks and niggers.

8k shouldn't be nothing. It isn't nothing. 8k is fucking 8k.

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True. If you are not pulling in at least a 3.5 gpa in modern college classes you are a nigger. Courses have been made so easy that all you have to do is say "white men bad, PoC Zirs good", and they give you an A+. Doesn't matter if you are in Gender Studies or Physics. Just go in and talk about the need for Herstory instead of History and the seals will clap. I went to university, and it is shit. If I had it to do over again I would have gone to vocational training for plumbing or something actually useful. But hey, at least I learned to check my privilege, right?

I understand the sentiment, but stop demonizing multi-generational households. They were the standard until Semites degraded our culture with the lie that everyone has to move out at 18 and spend more shekels on housing. This is especially true in the case of women, most of whom don't have the capacity or desire for such independence in the first place.

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this wont work with computer science the field advances too fast

He isn't wrong, but I didn't see any mention of why this is the case. So for anyone interested here is the root cause of why College Is A Scam.

Like many things wrong with America this too can be traced back to the "Civil Rights" movement of the 60s and the Communist subversion that piggybacked on it. It used to be you could simply apply for a job, and the employer would give you an aptitude test to see if you were qualified. However because dumb Blacks predictability failed these tests the Marxists jumped on this as evidence of illegal discrimination and outlawed it. Not the test itself, but every private companies hiring practices were now subject to "oversight" by the DOJ.

Which means if some stupid minority failed your aptitude test, and had a mind to complain to the DOJ about it, your business would now be embroiled in an expensive lawsuit with the Federal Government. Which means even if you won your case you're still out tons of money in legal fees. And if you're found guilty by a Federal Judge, you could be out millions, possibly even bankrupt.

So in the face of this corrupt power grab by the government companies begin abandoning testing and turned to College Diplomas as "impartial" evidence of a person's qualifications.

And beyond that it's just the same old story of Government Subsidized Racketeering and pricing all but the upper class out of College, unless they get one of Mr Shekelberg's high interest loans…and now the system is so broken that the government is about to take $1.1 Billion out of Social Security to cover the cost of delinquent loans. GG Goyim.

Any advice for someone getting a degree in computer engineering (verilog type things and microelectronics) as well as computer science? So, due to AP/IBs I've never had to take bullshit classes (except for a couple). Due to this, I get to graduate in 3 years since I was always max course load. As a consequence of my stupidity among other things, I have about a 3.0 GPA and have never worked an internship. Honestly, I know concepts here and there as well as how to program "in general". I just don't know how I'd tell if I know what is "needed" on any job site. How does one make sure they get a job? (My fear is going to an interview, they ask me some basic shit and all I can do is look them dead in the eye and say "what?", and, even if I get the job, going into work one day and not knowing what to do. Consequently getting blacklisted from locations or even just burning a bridge).
Also, although this would be better asked at Holla Forums, does knowing graduate level mathematics have any benefit? (Studying things like computability theory or probability theory).

Try to get an internship. Then move to India, and get citizenship. Learn to use the designated shitting street. Eat curry until poo yourself every time you fart on account of the IBS. Then apply for an H1B visa and go work for Disney.

Funny if the implied is I am pajeet, but, supposing I'm not? I'm graduating, I can't get an intership.

because with the amount of money and time you're dumping into college, you could've jump started your own company, build up experience and contacts.

Ie. You wouldn't lose 5 years, like you would with college.

Have you ever had a job before? Most people that get hired don't have 100% skill overlap with what the employer requires. You'll have support and training and time to acclimate.

If you have some time before graduation, then look for local nonprofits that need help with IT. Help them, kiss some ass. Put that down on a résumé. It will look good that you didn't just stay idle and HR will think of how great you are.

If I would have an open vacancy and someone would bother to call me for a lunch I'd certainly would put a high priority on that person and check during the lunch if he's capable for the job. I would have need to test his programming knowledge though just to make sure he isn't making stuff up. Likely this would involve him making one of the tests I have laying around.

But the employer I'm currently working for is suffering a from long time open vacancies because it's genuinely hard to fill some spots for programmers in the Netherlands.

It was worth it, user. I'm also /gatech/

Never, so whether for better or for worse, my skills are only in this sphere and no other. Although, I really don't consider that a negative. It's not like working at McDonald's would've taught me anything nor would it have been something I'd want to put on the resume.

That works. I guess, the issue becomes the same in that if they ask me for help, god knows if I'll know what to do.

How much support and "training" happens on the job site in this field? I.e., how much of my stupidity will they put up with?

Nah not true it's a statistic that people with degrees earn on average twice as much than people without.

wtf American education? It always surprises me how shitty American education is and how retarded the EU is to want their education to be more like US. Netherlands has one of the best systems along with UK. No bullshit courses in university everything relates on the material (unless minor / free choice courses). But only 15% or so even go to university and then like 60-70% or so of those 15% do bullshit social science degrees. So you have like 6% who are actually doing a useful scientific degree. Then you also have 4 year degrees beneath the 3 year uni degrees I just mentioned and around 20% are doing those as well. Of which again 60-70% are doing bullshit. So again you have only 8% doing an useful degree.

>first year University theology

I assume most, if not all of the people in those courses were admitted due to affirmative action or sports scholarships. Like the author of the text in the image wrote, these idiots won't understand no matter what you do, so it's not really about providing a legitimate education. The courses are an attempt to retain both groups for as long as possible so that they can make the most money off of them.

I have that sense of pride right now that few understand.
Off-topic sage,

Please teach me how to spot an Albanian
t. pasta

I'm getting an electrician apprenticeship with the trade union as soon as I get my GED. Can't wait. Just want to be working for my food and feel useful.

The thing that's beginning to get at me is that too much of grades are determined by how much one is willing to study before the deadline of a test approaches. It's not always a measure of understanding, but rather how disciplined you are. I had the highest GPA of physics juniors, without studying much, and I absolutely hate how I don't feel like I understood the material well enough because I didn't want to read 40 to 80 pages of dense material each day (to read the entire book, not just the subset that the instructor has time to cover).

We live in the information age, after all. I want to see higher quality and demands for understanding and excellence without arbitrary deadlines being a determiner of one's grade. Why not have the best physicist post lectures a la Khan Academy, have those lectures be free for all and reused time-and-again, and then have students pay a small fee* for each test they must take in order to pass the class. Homework being completely optional, and one must get an A in all STEM courses before being able to proceed; no GPA held in account. Humanities courses are more subjective however, and I'm not sure how one is supposed to get an A on every paper they wright, even though I did

*The fee covers the effort made to compose the test and have the person there who observers whether you're cheating or not**

In short, the time spent on college degrees and the date on which you take tests should all be on your schedule now that we don't need professors lecturing the same exact content year after year. And this manpower can be better allocated to hands-on instructors helping you with questions, doing activities, and administering exams.

Ehh… well that was rather ironic that I made that error in that particular spot of the post…

Perhaps in burgeristan it is this but in many european countries universities are still valued highly in more important fields engineerin/IT/law/medicine.
Lecturers are tied to business and it helps both to get a job and for your resume.
I have no debt now, 1 bachlor degree and finishing a masters. I have a job and am switching to another.
I know you burgers hate it for the debt scamming that goes on in your country but not everywhere is the same. There are legit good universities and they usually have high requirements for entry or simply a difficult specialty that is not so appealing.
This constant shitting on universities and *I'm gonna make it on my own* would make you look like a moron over here.

You better pray you get a job as a translator else you will pretty much be in the fast food industry.

Now you know why you will get a job in the UK or France while he will be unemployed in Norway…

You don't need a fucking political science degree to become a politician, you just need to be a well-spoken man who can resonate with the populous

I've used it on at least 3 different problems this year along with a considerable amount of calculus and linear algebra. Then again I get paid $200k a year to write animation software used in AAA games. If you're an engineer at some point you will need to be able to solve a low-order polynomial equation.

Frankly, the only general ed course I didn't get any value from were the forced Marxist courses ("Ethnic Studies"). The rest (20th century history, chemistry, literature) were all useful to some degree even as a CS major.

The cost of college, much like a home, is artificially inflated due to easy credit and wealthy foreigners. However, if you want to be something other than a $50k/year wage slave you need a proper education. I just don't see your average individual being resourceful and disciplined enough to get a high-level balanced education outside of a college.

there's physical experiments that prove it you chucklefuck

you're the crackpot, listening to people that tell you easily disproven lies

something to do with robots

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have you considered conquering England?

The future of school is online. Just take the best teacher in the World for a subject, have him do lectures for each class. Now the whole world has access to it, for a small fee.

If you really want to piss off a libshit… when they ask for free school, just say "we already have free school, its called the library and google/youtube."

It has everything to do with the marxification of degrees. Every bachelor degree must be equal according to the regulator. This means that the same amount of hours should go into a psychology degree as an engineering degree. As a result degrees have to get stuffed with unnecessary garbage just to fill it up.

This guy is a lazy sack of shit that couldn't hack even a full year of college so he dropped out and tried to pull the "SJW" card to justify it. Sounds like his butthurt over quadratic equations means he also took a remedial math course in that first semester too.

Quadratic equations, taxes, and civics are the domain of high school. NOT higher education.

Be on the lookout for pasty turkish-looking guys with fuccboi haircuts, who speak with a lisp and smell like weed or piss. Well, that's the basics, the other shit you learn from experience.

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Yes but he talks about gen. Ed's like music, literature, art, and other useless shit. I'm a biochemistry major and I already have taken history, English, and will take other languages and even a gym class. It's such a scam.

are you underage
8k is nothing with a useful degree

Yeah, and that engineer could work those 30 days because he learned mathematics and physics for 5 years non-stop. Regardless of how much you learn at work, how do you expect to work as an engineer if you don't even know what d/dx means?

Smelled like shitty field from the start, but this confirms it. Yeah maybe if you flip burgers you'll never need it. Hell what kinda college even wastes time teaching the quadratic formula? You're supposed to know it by the time you get to college.

Sounds to me like some faggot went to a shitty libarts program then got surprised when it was all trash and a waste of time, but also seems to think getting a 4.0 in Gender Studies gives his opinion more worth.

This is why im studying in a poorer country, im probably learning more with 2 good(you know, actually cares about you learning and not there for a paycheck, the type that doesnt exist in US colleges anymore) teachers i know than you are with ypur pozzed or flat out jew "teachers"

Niggers and women? Or just nigger women?

I learned QE in 8th grade.

i got a "B" in my university experience class guys.

The guy seems to have just done some introductory classes and thinks he now knows what all college is like.

Those introductory classes are mostly the way they are because public education is such shit that they have to make sure everyone gets some basic knowledge before progressing.

Fun fact: People can go to a community college for a few hundred dollars for one year and carry the credit over to a larger college so that they're not paying a fortune for those introductory classes. It's actually pretty routine for people to go to cheaper schools for the first couple years which is why people make more of a big deal about where you graduated from, not where you spent 2-4 years at.

There are of course problems with college, in that you often don't make enough with a college degree to make it worthwhile, but this story is so much bullshit as they don't really touch on what is wrong with the schools.

Would you prefer he stayed for several years of poz? At least he made the smart decision to GTFO.

Trips of truth. Although the job applicant would probably use pajeetspeak and shit on the floor afterwards.

If you're going to go to college:

Live with family
Work full time
Go to a public school
Make sure to volunteer/intern in your field (this is more important than the degree)

Student loans are a grave mistake.

upwork.com/o/jobs/browse/c/web-mobile-software-dev/

I understand the focus on colleges/universities due to the ridiculous costs and pozzing but let's not kid ourselves. The entire education system as a whole is completely FUBAR, not just post secondary education.

I wonder why college is getting more expensive

yeah this is the opposite of the SJW argument, college is 100% their territory and certain reasons for its pricing may be sjw inclined like muh evil corporations but in reality it's a product of letting in "people" who can't even begin to pay off debts so to compensate they have to jack pricing up

How does one get a degree in say, Electrical Engineering without said (((loans)))?

Merit-based scholarships or sex work

That really, really needs to go. I don't get it why most people on here seem to be against standardization by the government of education. Because standardization and seperation of levels of education would provide the tools to people who excell while also accomodating people who perform less better. European education systems like the UK, Netherlands or Germany are far better in my opinion.

I have information systems degree. Every non business course that had a heavy focus on math or programming ended up with the lecturers saying you should google it or ask stackoverflow. Really worthless. Then the same profs also told people who attend the lectures have better grades so better attend them while the lectures were often just useless drivel and sometimes only there so a prof could ask specific questions about material that only passed by through the lectures and is nowhere in the curriculum. This last is the worst, because it has nothing to do with real education to not provide all the tools to a student either online or offline without lectures.

He really did a shit job of explaining in detail why it's a scam. I've explained it many times on anonymous imageboards.

Here are some reasons:

1. Most of this bullshit is all just get a textbook, go through it, get marked. You can literally do all this on your own with textbooks you find online, and skip all the marxist indoctrination.
2. You will indeed learn far more on the job and if your goal is to get a job then you should go straight to your employer for training.
3. Absolutely fucking everything in universities is overpriced and intensely wasteful of funds. They just blow money because they don't even know what to do with all the money. Then the cancerous fucking teachers, despite getting paid way more than the general populace, always go on strike all the time demanding even more money and making their jobs even easier.
4. Most of your time in college/university won't be spent learning anything.

Fucking retards like you that think there is any worth attached to wasting hundreds of hours and thousands of dollars being lectured by a liberal are part of the cancer killing this civilization.

No you don't. You need to know how to program and you need to make some programs and you need to show to your employer what you've made and then you get hired. I'm saying this as someone who lives in Canada's own technological valley, surrounded by companies like RIM, Sybase iAnywhere Solutions, Quantum Institute, etc. all around ,e/

Literally all you need to learn computer science is a computer and Internet. Everyone here has that already.

Jesus Christ, Jews did brainwash 'murricans.

University of Waterloo I went into Computer Science for one semester and left in disgust because I was bombarded with constant marxist bullshit. Taught about fags, feminism, white guilt, and all the rest. I also went into Environmental Management / Geography, and that shit was even worse. Also my computer Science class I was the only fucking white there besides the teacher who was some jewish fag, the rest were all gooks, mostly male. In Environmental Management almost everyone was a female, lots of white females, and all of them utterly fucking ruined by the marxist programming.

Just skip them entirely by actually befriending and hanging around the people there and you can get in.

I seriously hope you goys keep doing this.

Doesn't shake out like that anymore. It's been changing the last 2 years with the big "social justice" bullshit hitting the mainstream and all of the whiners. I'm in IT and work for a fortune 500 company been there nearly 12 years, pay is good, work is good, occasional on-call and crunch time(1.5x), if you have a university degree HR is more likely to look over your courses with a fine tooth comb then the person who's taught themselves. If they see things like "genders studies" or "womens studies" course, they trashcan it. The reasoning on that? We had a couple of people and HR though these people with university degrees would be great! They were in the university=smart line of reasoning. They discovered that these people had no worth ethic, were unable to follow simple directions, randomly picked fights over inane things and in general made the working environment complete shit for everyone else. The thing that put that policy into place was the asshole cuntbag that was hired to be a testing and debugger for a dev team. She wouldn't do work at all, she'd go around the work place harassing people because of "offensive jokes" on their cubicles or running off to HR when people would talk to her. When the project lead over her ordered her to work, and do the shit assigned she couldn't do any of it. Couldn't understand what was written, couldn't understand the language(we were using C++), didn't know what dev.annotations were.

Yeah these people are the ones who should have be working in low paying but fulfilling work for the rest of their lives. AKA management at fast food places, or janitorial staff. HR depts outside of ours at other companies are cluing in that "just because they have a university degree" doesn't mean that they're actually useful or can even do anything. So enjoy the new reality, we're moving back to a period prior to the 1970's and 80's where people see self-taught, and willing to further their education is good. But the whole corp mindset needs fixing as well at this point.

Comp. Sci. grad here.
Writing a program is kinda like writing a story. That is, two writers could write the same story with the same plot, setting, and characters, but one of the stories can be much "better written" than the other.

Self-taught programmers might learn how to hack out some code at a pajeet level that "works" given a little black box testing, but that's all they can do. Create a shitty spaghetti code mess with undescriptive variables and not following any design patterns. Any half decent computer science program will be much more broad than that. They will not know anything about software engineering principles, underlying theory behind computer algorithms, discrete mathematics, hardware, operating systems, databases, or system administration.

They are unlikely to have to work with a team or create any projects beyond a few hundred lines.

Testing them would be a waste of time tbh.

Its not disrespecting math, its being logical. When do you ever use half of the college math out in the real world? Granted some jobs do require it but those are pretty specific. This is about colleges and bloat courses. They need to teach you things that will progress society, not what will justify their retarded budgets on classes that shouldnt really exist in the proportions it does.

I've been working with CS graduates and these were exclusively the people that produced shittiest code and stumbled upon simplest problems. They all universally were dead sure they were excellent programmers.

Also programming design patterns is a shitty management meme. Ditching good solutions in favor of following some arbitrary patterns in cancer killing programming field.

Well yeaahhhhh? This is news? It's a pyramid scheme has been for years. You're not brilliant for figuring that out, you are an idiot for not mapping out what your entry barrier was in order to get your dream job prior.

You only knew this at 18.

The fuck is wrong with you?
WHY WOULD YOU PAY FOR THAT??

Not really. College is a scam, you should determine if it's necessary to clear the barrier of entry to your dreamjob before committing. There, done.

I mean, if you don't really have a desire to be an engineer or doctor, etc. and just want to make money, there's no reason not to look into Welding or computer programming.

ITT:

I use Calculus surprisingly often to solve problems, I even czechm8'd a discussion in a D&D thread by using summation and simple calculus to prove definitively which weapon enchantment was mathematically superior kek

There are real world applications if AND ONLY IF you are creative enough to find them. High level mathematics are tools, they are not some magical formula to uber success, they must be wielded in appropriate manners, they can't always be used but there are places where they make things a great deal simpler.

They take normie math and make cheatcodes for it and creating formulae to never have to solve said normie math again instead just plugging a single number into a variable and instantly having an answer every time, no need for grunt work or anything, just profit

I can explain some if you are interested in seeing some tricks but yeah, that's what high level mathematics does, it's shortcuts to more laborious math

The only majors that let you pull that shit are art, history, and any dumb ass sociology major. If anyone in my classes were to pull that shit, or even unironically believe that in my program they would fail you out of principle. Fuck SJW's they're making once respectable majors fucking trash. Seriously they are a fucking cancer, thankfully Econ is somewhat a bastion against them once you get past the 2000 level retard barrier.

I graduated with 3 concentrations, zero debt and I got hired into a good job before I was even out. The catch is I have to work in China for a few months and after that [/spoiler]travel between mexico and germany.[/spoiler] I am become international jewery

This.
Anyone who shits on Calc is an idiot.

Not trying to defend American higher education with its gigantic student loans and all, but his points are absolutely disgusting.

Don't Americans have a concept of general education? Shouldn't people actually learn science and stuff in University instead of fucking bureaucratic bullshit like that?
Why the hate for Math for God's sake?
It's probably a lot less useless than the marxist liberal arts indoctrination degree program he got his oh so great score in and, which is probably the actual issue here, a lot harder too.

And every single time it's about the oh so evil quadratic formula, is it so difficult to memorize some fuckin letters or can't SJWs just think of something else?

Why the hell does every single fucking person in the USA need to have higher education anyway though? Why do people get a degree in bullshit like nursing, you can do a fucking apprenticeship for stuff like that

You're a fucking retard, Miles. Get over it.

libgen,io

Or perhaps live in a civilized country that actually places a value on education and thus provides it free-of-charge to those with sufficient aptitude? I know, not the Murrican way.

And in all honesty, calculus is just introductory-level material as far as I'm concerned. You'd be surprised how often you run into engineering problems where you need abstract algebra (not the junior-high shit), discrete mathematics, vector calculus, etc. Math is a language that only the educated speak.

Math is language for autists, a bit like esperanto

My damn! I should have done same my self, or should lol.

I'm currently out, should have started on my PhD, last chance is this fall or I won't get it.

Point is here, they have in 1-2-3 dropped the standards to such an extent I have no words. All happened over night.

Here it is about hiding unemployment, so
first you needed a bachelor
then you needed a masters
now you need a PhD

well how are you going to accomplish that, pushing carpenter material through the unis?

You lower the standards

Seriously in one of my courses at masters, machinelearning, we had 1 feminist in the class from fucking psychology!!

On no not everyone can this
Oh no..
Oh well can those of you who knows X reach up your hand

oh yeah, well you guys [who actually study] learn this by your self at home

People were furious

Basically had to do everything our self due to that one fucking feminist

And 1/3 of our class were russians, spent a fortune for them to get here
pissed as fuck

So toilet paper now…..

When you seek a job, they have to do tests on you now, well they had to do that for years.

Earlier you were graded individually, then came the group gradings. So you get tons of free loaders not doing shit, getting good grades on paper, but they don't know anything…..

All through even bachelor I just said to the people. Look I know this, as I've worked with it for years, I don't have time to sit here on school… I'll do these assignments in 10 minutes and send it to you, I can't sit her explaining everything for hours on end, I got the other stuff I need to actually learn…..

so fuck it all

The best ones, quit at the master level when it got so feminized

basically write a novel, just fucking shoot me
I should have taken it earlier

This is a generalization and not quite true.

I worked years as a coder, and taught my self the maths I was needed to need as a game developer and other fields.

Then l took my degree after wards, the self taught ones, they come in with a passion for the field. And grasp it with ease, like on the bachelor I got A's on all programming shit without attending any courses just doing the required coursework in 1-2-3
in fact we were told to leave the auditorium as we kept on correcting the teacher, and go home and learn the maths etc instead and apply our self there instead

But ofc when you get to the masters and start with research and machine learning and shit, something you can't do without a cluster really(effective) you need the school.

Even as stated in my post there we had to learn this our self too.

I see the oposite, the ones only going on school, turning to Pajeets. The
I'm just doing my job people

They refuse to learn ANYTHING new.

Man 1 good coder/scientists outperforms 20.

The places I've worked I've had to drag the weight of fucking 20 people each fucking time… And let them and they fuck everything up…

Don't even get me started on when they ship it abroad to the eastern europe, canada, the us, india…..

Man I want the 90ies back, when only the ones actually caring for the subject and burning for it back

The good ones mainly do it to get the paper, but a simplification ofc here too

But this mentality of not wanting to learn anything new….

And the older ones who have worked for years in the company!!! Just want to stick to old tech always, you come in with the new, they won't listen and got the bosses ear(who usually is an outdated coder if at all)….. so it's like chains on your leg

Give me one example in your life (outisde of school) where you personally needed quadratic equation.

This.

Honestly, if 'quadratic formula' is a thing he has to learn, rather than see as obvious, and thinks he will never use it, he should have shot himself.

Let's suppose you want to have a function of a human's strength and human muscle mass, and you want to become a world-class powerlifter.

Let's suppose an average male benches about 180lbs in 1xRM (take this as an example, it's not the literal amount statistically speaking). If you workout everyday and take your supplements and diet accordingly, it will take you only several months to double your score, reaching 360lbs 1xRM.

However, to double it again, reaching 720lbs, it is NOT just several months. It's going to take several YEARS. The function strength x time is a quadratic formula. So if you want to become a nutritionist, powerlifter trainer or a programmer who wants to make a calculation of this, using a quadratic formula with rough equations will get you much closer to your result than a linear equation.

Source: Game developer using quadratic functions in character progression.

Math is very useful as a tool. You don't need to explicitly be a mathematician to use the said tools though, but it does help you being aware of them.

Vector math autism is actually useful in certain programming applications. I would admit though that probably less than 10% of people in a CS course will ever encounter said problems outside of university.

Thing with CS is there is a huge emphasis on math since it has repeatable results. However it likely isn't going to help you a lot to make a great IT product. I find that the math involved in IT is minimum except for highly specialized jobs, and that's where you generally have open vacancies as middle or upper manager like I have. I'm sorry if I'm rambling a bit, but being good at math can land you succesful positions. Though it certainly isn't a must to be succesful and get a 2x-3x modal salary.

Having seen some master thesis's, it's really like writing a novel! Glad I never did a Msc. The fun thing is that almost nobody pays people with a masters degree more than someone who has not. Though a masters degree is a lot of work and can easily take up to 3 years instead of 2.

I'm Canadian and I already have a college diploma, now I'm working on my degree in the same field.

My 2 years of college was the practical "on the job" learning and now I'm doing more advanced and theoretical shit for 2 years.

I've already had seasonal employment in my career, and I'm basically guaranteed a decent paying job when I graduate.

The only problem is that I'm a degenerate and I drink too much and party too hard to be fully confident that I'll be able to pass all my classes.

I'm studying Forestry btw

that should be common knowledge fam
Look into Leonardo da vinci
dude did shit like steaming bent boards to flatten them when he was a kid

It's all just unnecessary overhead. Less code = better code, all the end user cares about is whether it runs or not, not what the variable names are or if the program was made with a design pattern in mind.

Or just be an uncucked school teacher or professor

K-Jew student here. I've got a few goyim in Lawrence that I meet up with. Hit me up on Kik. I'm Big_Guy_4_You.

Kek, I have no college degree, I work from home, stoned 24/7, living in a 3rd world country, earning $30 per hour (not a lot but I live like a king here)… So, yeah, you don't fucking need to go to college to code unless you want to be like pic related.

Certifications were originally created for pajeet and friends, and still only show that you can rote learn to pass a carefully constructed scenario/test.

I was hoping he was just not sure of what he wanted out of school and was dropping out to take some time and figure that out, and maybe go back later. But when it turned into "Gen. ed. courses are dumb, I'll never use this, hurr durr" I just lost any respect.

If you want nothing but practical training, then get an apprenticeship or an internship and start at the bottom. There are some gen ed courses that are extraneous, thankfully, you get to choose which ones you take. Things like history and literature are things that all savant people should know, that's why you have to learn them, same with mathematics and physics, being able to rationally define the world around you and think in terms of laws and equations, rather than believing it's all done by magic, is part of being a savant individual. That's what college is, if he doesn't like that, then good on him for leaving, but fuck him for then turning around and trying to call universities shit just because he doesn't like them and wanted an easy path to the top.

underrated post. Gives me hope for the future.

I've found the opposite to be true. University students shit out spaghetti code, often barely passing classes, but people who are self taught often write code that is more well thought out.

This. All of the people I met in school were only in it for the money. They were hoping to only spend a few years doing actual programming and move up into management after that (lol). It's made me a bit depressed. Sometimes I think about changing careers because I'm surrounded by people who don't have any passion for what they're doing.

History major here, can confirm SJW's are completely trashing the field, and have been for some time. This is not only a result of the political messages they're hammering through, but also their attempts to remove any sort of actual rigor from the field, particularly in discrediting statistical analysis of historical sources in favor of an "interpretive" approach that basically results on them writing literary novels in place of actual research. To be honest history requires both quantitative and qualitative aspects, and ones primary job as a historian is not to be objectively correct, but to convince others of your argument, so a bit of writing flair is beneficial. But the SJW's and non-white's are taking it to an absurd level, and I think the beginnings of a backlash are brewing.

The good thing is that even if you need to tow the liberal party line with professors, most history internships don't require you to display your degree of brainwashing.

FUCKING TELL ABOUT IT!
I'm so fucking sick of this.

As stated you know back in the late 90ies, we were just picked up from the school bench or well actually these competitions we have up here….

But ALL were good and passionate about it

End up a place even now, and you risk running into people still fucking sticking with visual basic!!

AAAAAAAAARGGGG
I can't handle it, and so fucking stupid only care about the shekels nothing more

Also a factor here, we don't have many people because the land is barren and harsh so we have to make up for it by having good people

Basically the whole industry is destroyed

But user there is hope, start your own shit instead
Here that part is a nightmare, we had a gaming industry, ruined… NOTHING left

unrelated, but running a Hitler and Göbbels run in the background lol, it's so fucking soothing

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Anyone that doesn't know that by now isn't smart enough to be in college to begin with.

I fucking hate school

I just got done with a community college in California. It was surprisingly not as pozzed as i expected. as far as general ed goes:
took geology
took psych
took ethics
took english composition and introduction to computing (why computing fills this requirement i will never know)
lifeguard training
took US history post 1865
english composition filled this too
placement test filled this requirement upon enrollment
public speaking
trig

everything else i took was either shit i thought i needed to take but turns out i didnt (critical thinking, economics, western civ post 1716) and shit for my degree.

We should burn down the universities in his honor. Meme it

If you're studying engineering, law, or medicine, college is necessary. There are also some professional organizations that require a college degree (finance, accounting, actuarial science).

Other than that, it's supposed to teach you about the world. But it's so pozzed that it ends up teaching you that white people are the devil and all men are rapists. Most people going to school for arts, humanities, and social sciences would be better off getting a job at Starbucks.

Everyone complaining about all the little shit he got wrong are ignoring the fact that college is still a huge scam. Even for STEM it is still a scam. High school is mostly a scam as well but it is paid by our taxes so we don't complain as much about wasting all that time lost.