Why the does the original sailor moon art style seem So more expressive and lively than the sailor moon reboot?

Ackshually, let me tell you why there are actually far more intelligent meanings behind “Mr. Poopy Butthole” and “Wubba Lubba Dub Dub” than on the surface; not to imply they’re genius-levels of comedy, they’re just smarter than they appear.

Really? Crystal's artstyle is more similar to the manga than the original anime.

that thread was a hilarious dumpster fire

Crystal's art look like fucking aliens. What the hell was toei thinking?

>>>/a/

The thing about the old Sailor Moon art style is that it was fairly common in shojo anime around the early-mid 1980's. is right in that the old anime's designs weren't that distinctive at all (old anime had their own moeblobs back then). In fact, the original anime's art style is due in part to budgetary restrictions.

For Western viewers watching the program, it would have definitely stood out to them, but in Japan, such an art style (for anime) was already outdated by the 1990's.

Pic related.

Nothing wrong with analyzing the art style of a cartoon.

Modern Nip toons are tailored for fags and designed to turn men into women, not actual storytelling or anything.

Old anime has men literally turning into women.

Well that explains a lot.

I would Ranma.

I never watched it but did they ever explain what would happen if Ranma got pregnant in his female form?

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No. The curse is never really explored to that depth.

More interestingly, if you'd shoot your load into girl-ranmas pussy, and then pour hot water on him/her, will your load swim around with his load in his balls?

Maybe Doujinshi will have the answer

Actually… the series showcases that those affected by the Spring of the Drowned Girl curse can definitely get pregnant (Saffron and his people keep their lineage that way).

So, pregnant Ranma is a canon possibility.

Oh yeah you're right, I forgot about that.

The anime has better art than the manga. The mangaka is overrated as fuck. It took other people to improve her work into something better.

The Japanese don't view faggotry though the western progressive prism. What you're saying pretty much means nothing.

t. westerner who has no idea what japs think

t. resident expert on nips and faggotry

if you thin yuri, yaoi or stuff like Ranma is feminist progressive shit, you're fucking retarded, just go back to your 60 year old LARPers in your containment board

>>>/a/

Well it's still gay and degenerate and fuck off back to /a/. You're proud of a legacy of hentai fap boards, one of which included scat and guro.
Go to hell.

again this isn't your LARP board, fake Nazi, the people that cry about anime aren't from chans, they're again 65 year old angry queer transplants that can't wrap their heads around things that don't fit into a retarded binary ideology (like SJWs) like the ones that mod your board, I'd tell you to go back to stormfront, but I guess that's not an option now is it? If you expected to just come in here after 2nd exodus and expected everyone to stop liking anime, you're fucking retarded.

Have you ever noticed how much homoeroticism is engrained into Nazi aesthetic? Really makes you think. It's almost like Hitler was an undercover fag or something (because he was).

I like anime but it doesn't belong on Holla Forums and it's funny to trigger the shit out of weebs who seem to expect a safe space on every single board.
That's nice.
Take it back to
>>>Holla Forums,
Freud.

Weeb you will always be shit on here.

bump

The non-weebs act a thousand times more triggered which is exactly why I post anime here even though it doesn't belong.

Although anime airs on television so technically it can be posted here.

it comes under the scope of television, this is just more of D&C shit you see on Holla Forums with retards trying to purge anime every other week

Never been on there, and I'm not a leftist. But when these people idolize a man with a gay looking moustache to the point he's pretty much their husbando, and then believe in an ideology where they want to be dominated by such a man metaphorically, it's not hard to read between the lines.

Fuck it was only a week or so ago that I had an arguments with multiple people claiming to be from Holla Forums on Holla Forums and Holla Forums that thought homosexuality was learned socialized behavior because he needed nofap to stop their selves from jacking off to other guys instead of maybe realizing the fact that non-queers don't have those thoughts.

pretty sure you post anything besides the board topic like the rest of us. you aren't defending the honor of cartoons m8

anime is gay

They're probably so mad because they're oldfags or just autistic.
Weebs in the 2000's are very different to weebs today. They were basically like bronies before bronies existed.

All the shitposting was 100% serious, they didn't post to annoy people, they were actually that annoying by nature.

They still are.
moecucks are the worst.

It might not be forced as in the west (at least it doesn't seem), but it still is a way of normalizing it.

Cry harder.

Yuri is the purest form of love. Lesbianism is disgusting.

It's the same shit, both normalize it, it's just that in the west the people forcing it also want to normalize ugliness as attractive. And if you think about it, japs are better at it because at least they use attractive women, and you are the prime example that it works "dykes are normal and ok if they are hot!"

2D dykes act completely different from 3D.

And japs see lesbianism as a phase girls grow out of when they're older, that's why you rarely see 2D adult dykes or 2D dykes getting married.
No I don't believe that. I said it was okay if they're 2D. All 3D dykes need to be gassed, regardless of looks.

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Old anime literally normalizes transgenderism.

Now that would explain the low birthrates and general cuckoldry of the Nips.

Ah shiet Tokimeki Tonight. That last ED was absolutely kino.

What's it like being retarded?

Pretty much every developed country has a low birthrate. In Japan's case it's because they barely have enough time to raise a family and their women have been infected by feminism.

Name one piece of Western media from 1985 that says it's okay to fall in love with a tranny without resorting to the depths of total obscurity or pornography.

I know dykes that voted for Trump and find the left obnoxious. I'm sorry, but the world isn't black and white. This is why I can't take the meme nazis seriously. Literally everything is jewish or not. They see nothing else. It's an ideology for retards. Even when they are jacking off, it's about jews. They see jews when the jack off.

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Here it is

Even Holla Forums is hypocritical about this shit. You see how much they praised Stephen Miller when he destroyed Acosta over immigration? Guy is a jew. They also give a pass to Ben Carson. They don't even believe their own shit 100 percent. Some jews are bad, but I can differentiate between Soros and Mark on Holla Forums. I'm not a fucking retard who is only capable of binary thinking.

George Soros can't eat a cake in a single sitting and die 12 times on one level?

Holla Forums is not an organization or religion, their "core believes" can also change at any moment, also, just because there are some threads or some people praising someone doesn't mean everybody agrees with them.

You haven't been on Holla Forums in the past year and a half then. I still post there, but they absolutely treat it as a fucking religion and the hotpcokets enforce it as such 100 percent. Last time I was banned it was for saying this in response to someone else's post:

That's it. Don't believe it, go try it out yourself. It's a fucking a tunnel vision circle jerk for sure.

Holla Forums gets raided with shills 24/7, next time don't act like one.

oh fuck off, you get banned from Holla Forums for wrongthink, not everyone on Holla Forums is a national socialist, but you have to pretend to be one to post on Holla Forums, if you don't think so, you're shilling for their retarded mods like a bitch, it's like reverse cuckchan, I understand not wanting SJWs and leftists to over-run the place, but you have to be on the extreme to post there period

Anime is now made by people who never advanced beyond moeshit because it was safe, easy money. So it's a lost art now to have older art styles. Now we are stuck with the current look or will see a lower quality like Kemono friends or whatever it is.

This is an old anime movie.

This is a new anime movie, it was very successful and had pretty backgrounds, but compare it to the old one, especially the character design.

The older style looked more like moeshit compared to the new one. The newer one looks like ayys.

It's also a different economy. Japan during the bubble could afford to do expensive projects. Now if a single series doesn't cross the manabi line entire studios go under.

So they take the safe approach and pander to a certain audience which in turn creates fewer people interested in the profession unless they are fans of that particular style.

There is still the occasional good thibf, but more and more it is entering a monotonous period. This mirrors most of the Showa era which was typified by a strongly stylistic series massively succeeding followed by years of movies and series imitating it's success.

Also there have been previous moe booms. It's nothing new despite the neologism.

Waht's the point of it looking great if the rest it's gonna be shit?

No it's different.
It's so insular now there won't be a recovery, it's a generic death spiral. There is nothing big to lure people in. Add in Manga falling in popularity as you had the big 3. 2 gone, one so big it won't attract new readers just maintain fans. No replacement, nothing big in the west like Naruto and Bleach and to a degree Deathnote. I suppose Jojo gained a following after anime, but now there is so much LN trash, all about alternative worlds based on games.
All though I'm glad manga I like won't be adapted, it would be done poorly.

Looking great. It's like CGI movies only aesthetically pleasing.
I preferred 5 cm per second anyway.

Likewise I don't care about the substance of Fury Road I just liked what I saw. Substance adds to films, but style alone is enough for one watch. Like Sin City.

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But those were shit and created the worst type of weebs, Naruto especially.

It's called captialism. They make what sells. If you care so much for your early 90's gore anime art style, just go back and watch it again.

You sound like a gajin complaining about something you know nothing about. I heard this same garbage on that SJW circle jerk ANN 10 years ago and anime didn't disappear like those bitter 40 year olds predicted. Just show me where the cute more girl touched you, homo.

In addition, 2D lesbians are hot and their homosexuality is mysterious in origin, whereas 3D lesbians are either fat or androgynous so they go dyke to spite not getting enough male attention to satisfy their vanity.

There are exceptions to this, for instance traumatic experiences that a woman should go to therapy for are instead seen as a reason to go gay.

Or maybe it's all genetic and I have the cause/effect in the wrong order. I clearly haven't watched "my sex junk" enough to understand.

I agree with this 100%, but you'll never convince the Holla Forums smokers here that the board has gone off the rails because it's like church to them.

Princess Tutu is the moe shit this guy loves. Complete and utter bugfuck madness.

Princess Tutu is pretty good though.

The original was animated for hebephiles and little girls.

The new one was animated for just little girls.

So you're saying the original is better? Naoko Takeuchi is pretty funny. I think she complained about the original having the male POV too much, then she makes her own version with much more control over it and it's universally loathed by everyone.

I am sure there are plenty of contrarians who would call it reddit tier for having a meta plot and odd narrative structure.

There is a bunch of snobs out there that think they're anime professors with great taste because they watched Utena and think moe/fanservice is bad (things everyone but gay beta male cucks want). So yeah I could see that being the case with Princess Tutu as well, but it's still good despite the annoying gajins who praise it.

I don't think you know what that word really means.

Doesn't Tuxedo Mask get the shit kicked out of him a lot in the original, though? I remember reading somewhere that the producers/writers hated Tuxedo Mask. Unless Takeuchi is talking about the target audience of the anime.

It really doesn't matter. It is a beautifully crafted story with incredibly dark subtext, compelling characters, unique story and plot, and an amazing soundtrack.

Haven't watch it, but considering all the buzzwords you used to describe it I'm lead to think it's probably just ok at best.

Good, don't bother with something too deep for you.

Definitely not worth it.

I'm using it as the definition, foreigner/non-nip person, and I think you're a faggot. Go back to ANN.

no one watched your video in the OP btw, you don't sound like you belong here

This is the designated shitposting board. We keep /a/ clean.

stop talking like fag please

Poop poop pee pee diaper farts i won't get banned for shitposting here

I miss the grimdark anime of the 80s and 90s. Sexy waifus are nice and all but nowadays there's not enough violence and grittiness and there's no "big guys" anymore.

I love stuff like Violence Jack, Mad Bull 34, Golgo 13. People like Bennett the Sage with Anime Abandon will trash them, but he fails to truly understand them. He's no different than Roger Ebert who called out horror movies like Friday the 13th back in the 80s. They're both just moral busybodies who think all stories should be clear cut and have no grey areas and that we can't take things like murder and rape and make them into absurdities for our entertainment when that's really the best way to cope with such harsh things.

I think I agree with this. Not particularly about 'big guys', but the underlying message against homogeny beneath it all. Nowadays anime are too formulaic and safe in their approach to setting and style. Characters follow the same soft-lined template popularized by Kyoani last decade, violence is eradicated or heavily downplayed, nobody dies or gets (permanently) injured, school settings galore, and so on.

Anime used to have something for everyone. Grimdark, hyperviolence, moe, romance, slice of life, adventure, etc etc. Characters used to run the full gamut of age/sex. As time marches on, genres are being reduced, characters are cookie cutter bland, and even when the planets align and you get something out of the box that was formerly pretty commonplace, it's just not the same. There's too many restrictions upon it to ever evoke the same realness that it used to have.

Man, I just want more variety and boldness in concepts. Nobody is going to go berserk and stab the execs if you dare to take shit out of the Japanese school setting.

Schools are probably popular for the same reason waifus are. Japan sucks. You leave school and work insane hours, the women are materialistic and not cute or loving as 2d. Your options are escapism, or dropping out and becoming a hikikomori. I'm not surprised they ramp up escapism as pressures increase. Weebs may gush over Japan, but there are plenty of testimonies from Japanese people about how soulcrushing the environment is, long hours, no paid overtime, bullying in corporate culture, conformity to it all for fear of unemployment, recession almost permanently (their economy is fucked beyond repair). People live in Internet cafes, marriage prospects are dim and one guy had depression and stress for years, sought help and was called weak. Japan is nice to visit, but fuck living there.

Nice typical gaijin misconceptions you have in there.

The original Sailor Moon was one of the only weekly anime tv shows in Japan that got a VHS release. Something that expensive wasn't being targeted to 6 year old girls.

No fucking shit. He's a pudgy unwashed neckbeard who has never had to work a day in his life. His Golgo 13 review basically boiled down to "toxic masculinity is bad, and I don't understand why anybody would like this uninteresting character that portrays manliness as the ability to conduct tasks." It doesn't help that he looks for especially bad English dubs for the lowest hanging fruit imaginable. Every time I see that fat, smug, estrogen filled asshole, I want to break his face.

bretty good.

Here's City Hunter's ED. It is also pretty kino.

I don't get it. Are you asking for someone to provide a competitive example to one anime show that features a tranny but in western media? I'm absolutely sure the post you are responding to was about pointing out the fallacy of using one anime show as an example as representative of a medium and era and not challenging the nonexistent title of who can tolerate the most trannies - the east or the west.

Figures christcucks would demonstrate this level of insanity.

To live in the land of the samurai one must be a samurai.

Anime was better then because the people writing and making it had grown up in the aftermath of WW2. Shit was hard for them and they actually lived their lives. Fast foreward to now and the hardest thing going for the people making anime now is that work is too hard, so they just end up making cheap shit for escapism (waifus, moe, so on). Not to mention that most japanese people these days have no pride and view violence as an inherently bad thing.

The concept of moe has been around since the 80's.

I know but I'm just talking about the general trend and quality.

There's so much arm chair expert shit like this in this thread. Most of those ultra violence anime were OVAs. They weren't TV shows. You can't show heads exploding on TV, at least at most hours as far as I know. It's the fact the market moved from OVAs to TV series where you buy the Blu-ray version afterwards to recoup the cost. Who is most likely to buy the Blu-ray series? People who want to see their waifu again. So part of it has to do with the move away from OVAs, becuase it's harder to hook people into buying an OVA. With a TV series, you will get some people who saw it on TV.

Because everything has become a matter of shitting out the episodes as quickly as possible to make more money. This is why that disgusting trend of 3d shit has been appearing more and more in anime. Its so much easier to copy paste 3d characters then draw everyone in a slow manner.

Never said anything about ultra violence. And again I'm talking about general quality of anime back in the day compared to now, particularily in themes and writing. You cannot deny that the creators of before had entirely different influences in their work compared to creators now.

And shit like this isn't just in anime, its in almost every medium.

I would be interested to know which medium hasn't gotten worse over the years.

You're still wrong. Are you still going to claim TV series from the 80's and 90's looked better than shows out now? They don't, and the ones that do are few and far between. The market changed so studios can dump a gazillion dollars into the budget for an OVA. It's not cost effective for them at this point. People can complain about the talent pool, but I don't buy that as the driving reason. Also anime is driven by manga, you doofus. So what you should really be talking is about what kind of manga is being made.

*can't

Is there a misunderstanding here? I'm not talking at all about how anything looks. Although I would say that practical effects from the 80s and 90s look way better than the cg shit we get now. Tron and its sequel would be one example. Or if by tv series you still were talking about anime then i would point you to dragon ball super of how everything is worse.

As for anime being driven by manga that is only partially true.

Anyway my main point that i've been saying this whole time is in fact that the talent pool is worse. But its not all their fault, its just the way things work out over time. Example, fantasy writers a long time ago had for inspiration actual mythology and legends and the bible and so on. So these people go on to make conan, the lord of the rings, narnia and what not. Nowadays fantasy writers have the things things the old writers made as inspiration and what do we get? The wheel of time, game of thrones, eragon and other garbage.
I feel that in anime the same is true. Except where the older writers took inspiration from life the modern ones take inspiration from the older anime. Couple this with the fact that most modern japanese people yearn for a escape from reality and you get derivative works of lower quality.

That's a problem with Toei. They also did Sailor Moon Crystal. Not every studio is that bad.

Or it could be the people working at studios like Toei like I said. Also Gundam? Digimon? Pokemon? Literally anything? People can't write anymore. Get over it.

It's about 80 percent true. Total cop-out right there because it exposes your pretense.

This is a narrative that comes out of SJW hellholes like ANN. They want an explanation to condemn modern anime, because they're a bunch of libshit fat middle aged millenials who date trannies (becuase they can't attract women) and are triggered over moe anime (and fanservice) because of their hardline feminist ideology. You're viewing this entire thing through your own nostalgia goggles. You're remembering epic anime kino like Akira, Robot Carnival or whatever else while not realizing that making those films and OVAs took a god awful amount of financial resources to create. TV animation at the same time was not nearly as unique as your claim. You can't tell me that anime wasn't full of tv shows with very low budgets and derivative plots in the 80's and 90's because it certainly was. Stuff like Wedding Peach was not Akira tier.

Claiming this is because anime directors don't remember World War II anymore is a side note. This is about capitalism, and crying that Japanese otaku don't want to buy what you want to buy is pretty pathetic honestly. This is why Japan is superior. Japan gives consumers what they want. In the US we have libshits in control of everything that give people what they think they should have, and we end up with shit that pisses on its own audience instead of catering to it. If you want anime that is more like film, just watch anime films or go back and watch your 80's anime, and stop bitching that that moe anime girls trigger you so much.

Wow you could not be more wrong.

what?

The hell are you on about? SJWs were kids watching shit like Pokemon or Ranma 1/2 during the 90's. I doubt they've watched or care about anything earlier than that, even as adults.

I will admit though that the 80's and 90's had their own bloated market back then in the form of mecha and space shit. You're also right about the fact that Japanese companies are simply producing content that's the most profitable. Otaku are a more lucrative audience than model-making hobbyists ever were.

I respect that Japan makes the products that their audiences want but I don't respect what a lot of the current products signify. Not on some tiresome moralizing level like sexism or loli or whatever but their laser focus on exploiting the otaku market with the candy coated morphine designed to lull those who have given up on life in every way that matters is questionable at best in my eyes. People who have looked at the world and decided that they would rather retreat into comforting fantasy and hobbies that they feel comfortable and insulated from hardship with are not the basket I would put my creative energies in personally. I understand why they do and I understand why it resonates so strongly with so many of us who frequent imageboards as this too is a place for many people who have decided that the outside world, social norms, and the average inhabitant of that society are painful lost causes better off ignored except to mock. I just can't co-sign to lionizing making profit off cynically enabling an entire generation of functionally walking dead meat sacks. They have every right to do so and I have no interest in trying to deny any man his right to whatever crutch gets him through the day but I don't think much of it.

A lot of people watched 80's anime in the 90's and late 2000's. You can be born in 1982 and be a millennial.

You're wrong, there's a contingent of western fans that think anime has to be srs art and are triggered by moe and fanservice. They slowly evolved into SJWs. The owner of Anime News Network for examples is a goon who claims to have been an SJW before SJWs were a thing. They're leftist idealogues and hate every anime that isn't super artsy shit and want anime to purge itself until it becomes leftist and feminist friendly.

*early 2000's

You could say the same thing about any kind of entertainment. Fuck, you could say it's true for Star Trek. There's no end to that argument. It's basically on the same level as video games cause violence except even more generalized to ridiculous levels. Just because you like moe shows doesn't mean you don't have personal responsibility or never want to procreate or whatever. It's a ridiculous logical leap. It's also somewhat leftist and feeds into critical theory where a duck can't just be a duck, it has to be a duck that says something negative about society.

Thats exactly the target audience they're aiming for when they make those shows. 3D isn't PD for nothing.

We get it dude. You like moe fanservice anime. No need to get triggered because someone in this thread said its a cheap escape from reality.

you sure sound fucking salty, probably hit on some kind of truth there

when is watching cartoons not a cheap escape from reality? do you watch them for realism and current politics?

I guess you missed the
bit.

Figures a fedorafag would lack reading comprehension.

can anyone explain??

Sailor Moon and Love Hina opened Pandora's Box.

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Oh this again.

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I wonder who could be behind this post…

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get cultured swine

Yeah I'm the triggered one. Ok bro.

Listen idiot, theres watching shit for entertainment and then there is having a waifu and completely abandoning reality.

Well, to be fair, the show itself doesn't treat it as a curse, since Ramna uses his female form for his own benefit all the time.

how about not cherrypicking promotional art for the 80's pics?

You realize part of this is a meme, correct? Also, this shit isn't new you retard. Lum is technically a waifu. The cute anime shit also goes back to Osamu Tezuka. In fact, it predates the grim dark dystopia stuff you think is superior. Fuck you could argue chans are for neets that don't want to have a life. Just stop your moralizing. You sound like Michael Bloomberg complaining about large sodas.

Have you even been to /a/?