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i really don't care about wealthy socdems buying houses
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apparently the residents of the town are cool with it
He wanted to give unlimited tax dollars to the college industrial complex. The same amount of money that students pay for college now would be paid for by the state instead, if not more because there would be no competition between schools and they'd always get government contracts no matter how high they set their price
See? Was that so hard?
It's not like they were state-funded before and in most of the industrialized world or anything…
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I don't really think this is something be be applauded but regardless, kind of an obvious hackjob to attack the possible presidential candidate who's way poorer and has less corporate ties than the other two on the basis of too much wealth
Dont ya know it's a moral failing to call things unethical and then participate in them instead of gleefully indulging in them without remorse
America already has an established private college industry. That's the problem. If they nationalized them then there wouldn't be many problems. Why do you think every college all over the country supported B████?
So you're saying paying the private colleges instead of nationalizing them
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hes not making private colleges free
That's what he wanted to do. He was just your standard social democrat who wanted to plunder the treasury for his corporate buddies.
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600 000 isn't that much for a house, to be honest.
For a summer house it is
Why didn't he give the money back though?
No, actually, the state can withhold funds if they think colleges are spending frivolously, college's can just charge what they want.
When he call people buying nice houses unethical?
Why does Holla Forums continue to defend this guy?
Trump is rich, he's a capitalist.
Sandman is rich because people donates money to him, thinking he's gonna win, the man is a scammer.
Where does the money come from?
…you do realize the money was spent on the campaign right? That's how campaign donations work. What is left over is probably going to the new non-profit organizations he's making.
No, I don't realize that, what I realize that suddenly a poor outsider Sandman got 600K to spend on a house.
It fucking stinks.
It's not from campaign donations if that's what you're suggesting. It's illegal to use campaign donations for personal use.
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Then where does it come from?
Hillary Clinton's bribery?
Sandman's secret bank stash that he withheld?
He's poor relative to other Senators, he still has a little more than a million dollars from a Senator's salary and retirement plan.
How is Trump a scammer?
You think he paid it in cash?
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That's not being poor at all.
I don't know and I don't really care.
But now he got a house after losing his campaign.
See myself?
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Is there allegation regarding Sandman buying a house? Or is it reality?
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well hes a capitalist
Wow, so you are saying Trump is getting endless donations from his people?
That's not being poor at all.
If you got millions for your retirement plan, you are not being poor.
How can you be this fucking naive? You literal cuckholds
Trump doesn't need my fucking donations for his campaign.
Classic Hibernian forum sliding.
rule 1. never debate the Irish
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Yeah, he's not poor dumbass, but he's not a billionare and he doesn't use his political position to make himself rich. He's 82nd out of 100 in terms of richest senators. The money he has is purely from his salary and benefits from public service.
So allegations turn into reality now?
If he's not poor and he got money, then why does he need donations from his supporters?
it helps when you get free media coverage
I'm saying that once you hit the button that makes you give monthly donations there isn't a way to stop those payments on Trump's website or donation site.
Why doesn't Sandman get free media coverage?
Then I guess the average Trumpfan is either fucking rich or should be bankrupted by now.
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Uh, yeah, it's certainly possible, Trump and Clinton both spends LESS than S█████ despite being rich.
Isn't he supposed to get money out of politics?
sounds like he should be indicted for money laundering. Impossible to believe a guy working for decades with a 174k salary affords a 600k house
are you serious now? do believe the word allegation means a false accusation? the Allegations became court indictments that were investigated and contested, and Trump was found guilty of them in court. If you believe multiple judges were wrong, then you'd probably have to read beyond the word "allegation" in the article.
Allegations do mean accusation in my understanding.
Trump should be in jail right now for those frauds, no?
It's pretty impossible to believe, after he lost the campaign and wasted millions of dollars.
wow are you retarded? The problem with money in politics is when it gives a small number of people outsized power, when you have a large number of people making small donations its not a problem.
Trump was able to spend less since he had free media coverage and Clinton spent more because she had a superpac taking care of some of the spending.
Oh no.
He bought a mildly expensive home…
classcucks pls leave
It's the same goddamn shit, the money is money, it doesn't matter where it comes from.
When you outspent the capitalists and still lose, you have problems.
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Yeah, after endorsing Hillary Clinton am I right?
at this point this is obviously some 13 year old Bulgarian kid learning English as a second language.
Oh so you just don't care when capitalists dominate our politics I guess.
Clinton didn't have to spend any money building name recognition, he did.
No before, and probably after. Endorsing Clinton was necessary for him to maintain his sway in the Senate. When the democrats win the majority he will be the chairman of the budget committee.
As opposed to scamming people out of their donation money?
Except Trump doesn't have to do it.
Sandman left the democrat party.
Being a little touchy now?
Why isn't Trump in jail?
Which didn't happen…
He didn't have to spend on ads or name recognition
He was never the party, they just need his support to pass things and he needs them to get committee assignments
No shit.
The people donating didn't think he was guaranteed to win. If they did they are fucking morons.
Well, he lost, and the money is wasted.
But S█████ does, what the heck?
LMAO
He joined the party, endorsed Clinton and left the party.
because he was found guilty in civil court.
After so many allegations being truthful, why isn't Trump in jail for fradulents?
Look up the difference between civil and criminal law.
Then why don't complain about all the idiots who donated to bush or rand or cruz or whoever?
Yeah, he's not a reality tv star or former first lady and secretary of state.
So Sandman spent all that money for people to just know him?
Well I guess there were a lot of morons in Sandman party.
what is your first language?
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Because they are not related to this discussion, and I will complain about them too if you wish.
But he's a fucking senator and a social activist yes?
Don't be so mad now, I guess civil courts just don't make Trump into a criminal.
What's your?
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Yes, because that's how civil courts work you dumbfuck. It does mean that he defrauded people.
Yes, considering the money did not come back.
Yes, by spending more money.
how can u socialism, if u hab nise things?
Your donations go to the campaign. Which undeniably happened. Where is the fraud?
Oh you mean this?
It means they are still pending.
The campaign would have happened with or without the donation.
The fraud is that his donation might win the campaign for S█████.
Indeed, if you are a rich socialist, there's no problem at all, unlike a rich capitalist.
we're not opposed to rich people, we're opposed to capitalism.
So as long as capitalism is defeated, wealth inequality is fine and dandy, right?
What did the Sandman pour the money into?
His campaign is a fucking blip compared to Clinton.
Yeah. Presidential candidates would still campaign regardless of whether or not S█████ was able to. Really astute observation.
That's wrong.
Sandman was able to campaign with or without donation.
In a socialist/communist system wealth accumulation wouldn't happen.
Any wealth inequality under socialism would be due to differences in ability,
Have fun trying to become a billionaire in socialism.
Not effectively.
So basically, if S█████ exist in a socialist system, he wouldn't have million of dollars for retirement plan.
Socialism doesn't happen yet, no one would know.
He campaigns not effectively with or without the donations.
Ads
Travel
Payroll
Trump has to spend for those the last two, and he does it less than Sandman.
And ads? Really? Sandman's ads were practically overshadowed by all other.
I wouldn't say he's a full blown scammer but he's definitely crooked
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It would depend on inflation idiot, a million bucks by retirement isn't even that exceptional, my dad probably has more than him.
Yes. We aren't opposed to people being wealthy, rather we are opposed to the methods people use to become wealthy.
Under socialism wealth inequality, which would likely be negligible due to the impossibility of large-scale accumulation, would be fine.
Is your dad a capitalist?
And no, I don't think my dad has a million buck at all.
Oh, so it's fine.
Socialism doesn't happen yet, when it happens, we will tell if there are billionaires or not.
As of June Trumps campaign has spent 296.6 million. S█████ spent 232.1 million.
Get your facts straight.
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Oh really?
Sandman just spends a little lesser than Clinton.
He's a bureaucrat and engineer
I can see where he got the money.
Oh wait, he raised less than but spends more than Clinton.
Fucking LOL
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Should have said a little more.
he got it by publicly serving his country just like [email protected]/* */ He didn't sell out like clinton, and he didn't get it my defrauding people like Trump.
I'm kinda jealous at Sandman.
The man raised hundred of millions dollars, but his campaign and ad still get dominated by Clinton and Trump, or even Cruz.
Yeah, pushing pencil, I'm sure.
He supplies soldiers fighting in Iraq and Afghanistan with the supplies they need to survive
Systematic change is the only meaningful change. Individual actions are pretty much irrelevant.
Yeah, the logistics guy.
We all know him.
I support communism and be a land owner
My action does not matter, right?
He sure showed the capitalists with his systematic change
So long as you don't have people work on it and take a portion of their payment as your own.
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You own the land you use. simple as. It's impossible to 'own' hectares of land as personal property in any meaningful capacity.
A senator's salary is something like 200k and he's been in congress for over a decade
Colleges have a natural monopoly because of accreditation. The US government would simply punish institutions attempting to exploit this. Not all colleges would necessarily be free to attend, either, if you wanted Ivy League to still be elite.
You retards babble about how leftards cannot economics then make horrible arguments like this.
lmao
That's money raised, not money spent.
Not to mention most of the Trump's money come from the RNC.
I let people rent my land and get paid for it.
Communists would be fine with this?
It's certainly possible, under communism.