Defending the right to Free Speech and Public Assembly

Advocating for the white race, not "muh freedums"

what are you doing, kike?

You're such a fucking hero.
>>>/liberty/
>>>/reddit/

There was a short surge of National Pride and unification immediately after 9/11 but that quickly war off and we've since become divided on a near limitless number of political, religious and ideological stances.

Free Speech is a birthright. The ability to exercise it is a social construct.

And how do you go about doing any of that when those that attempt to rally and speak in public are attacked and disrupted by extremist left wing militant groups?

Your satire only furthers the division of those you support.

We don't even have free speech here anymore. These are just from the last few hours - not even anchoring threads, but outright deleting them.

Assault and harassment are still crimes. They are not allowed to do such things, and if the authorities do not enforce the law then it falls to the citizens. You do as citizens (at least in the USA and the UK) have the right to enforce the law yourselves. You can even arrest and detain people.

I was making the point that to protect freedom of speech in a multicultural world you need a regulatory force to ensure that any attacks criticising the status quo are doing so from an angle of beneficence with an an eye towards betterment; as opposed to the weakening of your nation for destructive purposes by an 'enemy within' who uses the 'freedom of speech' as a shield.

Wrong. Free speech is a privilege, just like all the other privileges the Constitutions and Bill of Rights label "rights". There is no need to limit yourself to moral arguments. You can do the 'wrong' thing to one person and be doing the absolute 'right' thing to another. In the end, the only thing that matters is the result.

Even if you were right, that stance by which you have chosen is of absolutely no benefit to yourself or others. You have assigned yourself to a belief of failure without even entertaining the notion of attempt. It is not different than believing in nothing.

Agreed, though in many cases small/medium sized public assemblies go without the protection of local law enforcement and are left to fend for themselves. These are the openings that groups like antifa and the anarchist groups use to overwhelm their opposition with larger numbers and prevent them from having a public voice.

A possible solution is an independent, unaffiliated organization promoting Free Speech and Public Assembly on a nonpartisan platform. Starting from a small grass roots beginning and branching out to a multi chapter foundation that can provide support and defense of these targeted groups that are being denied the chance to have their voice heard by those that fear free thinking and contrarian ideas.

Just call it the 'militia'. Raise awareness around protests and demonstrations that are likely to be attacked by leftist totalitarians and ask people to come with guns. It'll start off small but even just 5 of us with standing there with guns is likely to make a statement. With luck more people will join us.

Militias really are a great thing. We need to rediscover the ways of old.

That is hands down one of the worst possible suggestions for something of this nature, and I say this as an avid 2nd Amendment supporter. Having several people in masks holding firearms at was is attempted to be described as a peaceful event, is as contradicting as it is baseless. There is an immense step up in escalation of force by introducing firearms into a situation that would be otherwise a melee confrontation at most. In Sacramento Antifa members squared off with Natsocs, 6 of the antifas were stabbed (in self defense) and the media gave little attention to it.

If they had been shot it would've been legally classified a mass shooting and drawn negative attention from every single media source in the nation, stripping the group of any legitimacy and tarnishing any shred of moral encouragement it could have hoped to show.

You have to respond appropriately with the proper escalation of force to both defend yourself and those around you, and remain undeniably the respondent to an act of violence. The moment you become the provocateur, you have lost the battle of public image.

I'm an Englishman and you're a disgrace to all Americans. You are allowed to hold guns. You are allowed to carry. You are allowed self-defense; and if the authorities aren't going to uphold the law; YOU have to.

Believe it or not it is better that anti types are too afraid to engage BECAUSE you are standing there armed, than it is for people on both sides to get stabbed. Just because the media didn't come out overtly on their side (they did actually, lots of stuff about how it is an Americans duty to oppose nazis) does not mean its 'good'. Losing even a single good person is not worth it.

You do not have to be doing any intimidating, you are just standing their standing up for YOUR American. You know, the one where you are allowed to have guns, say what you want and not get attacked by fucking communists for daring to have an opposing opinion.

You disgust me.

Sure is face tattoo in here.

You made me so mad I made like 10 spelling mistakes. Grow a pair and stand up for your history, your nation and your way of life you cunt.

The trick to making free speech work in a society is to ensure there's no limits to it.
Much like here we can say pretty much everything with zero consequence. But it also means that ideas are more aggressively argued for and against.
Survival of the fittest meme occurs resulting in more well refined worldviews.

If we could get the rest of society onboard with that. Then free speech would be fantastic for all. The hebrews ability to use it against us would be curtailed.

ethnic free speech

That is literally what I'm trying to do. It fucking sucks that your nation got stripped naked of its fundamental rights, mainly firearms (and bicycle wheels, kek). But seriously, do you want us to look like these faggots?

Literally some of the worst gun control laws created by the State of California were instilled to limit the Black Panthers from being armed at their protests. You aren't helping the situation by looking like a crazy paramilitary right wing revolutionist group. Image is everything in this day and age.

Look, I understand that you're pissed off about not having the gun rights you once had. I'd be pissed too, but I'll be even more pissed if we hurt the 2nd amendment and kill any chance of a positive image before the group even gets off the ground.

You're not wrong, survival of the fittest is indeed in full right now. The anti facist groups are continually emboldened by the great amount of national discourse and division resulting from Trump's victory. These groups should not be allowed to continually silence and attack smaller right leaning public assemblies.

We need more people like protest user. Men who go out and say the truth no matter what the circumstances are, and do it looking good and actually speaking with intelligence

That is an a priori assumption, not an argument. Slander and misrepresentations are not free speech.

This whole thing begins and ends with the police being either =on or =off.
Enforcement of the perception that a crime has occurred is tied to the Police. If the police did not show up as they do then all issues would be solved. The solution to what you are talking about begs the question and its clear cut answer.

The question…..
With all of these leftists - How can we protect ourselves against ourselves and voice our freedom as they force their freedoms.

The answer
Disband the police. They are an illegal entity that is denying us our Freedom of assembly. The leftists are also denying us our Freedom of assembly. Our right to keep and bear arms should be used to neutralize these enemies that keep violating our rights. The Police are violating our rights. The leftists are Violating our rights.

We actually have a case here.

They should be allowed to push that bullshit but people should equally be allowed to tell the world how fucking retarded they are.

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Hi, book for radicals. Would be nice if we went back to being "good losers" and the "bigger man" again, wouldn't it?

free speech doesn't exist in Canada, and its illegal to obscure your face while protesting unless you're muslim

Amen. Our enemies do not grant us the right to free speech; we are idiots to grant it to them. In the US, the government does not directly prohibit speech, but "hostile environment" workplace law makes it illegal to employ anyone who breaks leftist speech taboos, accomplishing the same thing for most of the population. Other Western countries have it even worse, with naked outlawing of taboo speech, and our enemies here in the US are constantly trying to move to direct prohibition, harping on the nonsensical dichotomy between "hate speech" and "free speech."

In an ideal world, I would be all for free speech, but holding it as an inviolable principle while your enemies do their damnedest to take your free speech from you is foolish and pathetic.

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The issue with what you're pointing out is that we aren't in a position to impact those issues. You need influence, power, finances. Starting out as a morally justified and neutral group that supports the right organization's right to Free Speech as protected in the United States from antifa and communists is the first step towards procuring a seat of power from which to have a larger effect on the nation.

Of course, you're absolutely right. The correct move is to shout long and loud about the sacred right of free speech when you're out of power, and then turn around and censor your enemies after you gain power. Exactly like the Left did. The commie founder of the ACLU explicitly said that that was what he wanted to do back in the '30s, and it still worked.

the internet

We truly would be in an amazing timeline if we could turn their own tactics against them while standing the "morally correct light" they've used against us for so many decades.

It would take a fuckton of work in the introductory faces to get anything remotely close to an organized group off the ground in one location, let alone multiple, but it's doable.

Ideally with the right small unit leadership small independent chapters could emerge and work in tandem with other chapters in larger engagements. As cliche as it sounds, the Fight Club effect has potential, no central leadership to cause the group to falter or fail without their presence. Though we'd need a "Tyler Durden" to bring it all together in the beginning.

The internet only gets you so far. Without the immense turnouts at Trump rallies things may not have been as successful as they were. Success breeds success, people are naturally attracted to large groups with visible tangible traction.

i've noticed several threads deleted as i was trying to reply. very disheartening

Why not use your freedom of speech?
I would join an effort to make references to pedophilia, homosexuality, miscegenation, or any depiction of any of these, or any other similar perversity illegal under FCC regulations.
The media has no 2nd Amendment right to use the people's public airwaves, and that includes the spectrum used to transmit information to & from satellites & ground stations.
The FCC used to be quite draconian about the broadcast of degeneracy, it can be again. All you need is the backing of the public. And I think the public has become more intolerant and tired of this crap, as it seeps into everything from tv shows to commercials for children's cereals.

About the only thing you couldn't control would be the printed word and local access cable programs, but you could purge well over 90% of this garbage from the standard citizen's daily fare.

Everyone seems to think that what has been done cannot be undone, but that has simply never been the case.

Is that pentagram and oroboros legit or shopped?
Looks a bit shopped tbh.

Just start a motorcycle gang…err…I mean, "club."

0/10 would not kill faggots with.

Ironically that is exactly what antifa is trying to do.

I was thinking something more like what is going on in Scandinavia right now. Shields are as useful in a fight as they are in symbolic gesture.

Are you going to fight them or hand them a copy of "The Watchtower?"

Up here in Canada, there is big free speech issue going on.
Bill-16 is new legislation that forces people to use peoples preferred gender pronoun.
Not only do they restrict speech, now that are forcing what you should say.

Jordan Peterson is one of the professors standing up to these ludicrous laws.
I recommend every leaf get familiar with this man and encourage everyone to watch his lectures and interviews.

https****://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wxs7C-30TLQ

That is incredibly unfortunate. When I saw this info-graphic, I knew you guys were in dire straits. You're on your way to becoming the new Germany, arrested for simple salutes. If any of the things I've suggested happen, and such an organization does take off, there's the chance it could gain enough traction and influence to effect other nations as well. If by some small chance, we do get that opportunity, we'll try our best to come to your aid, leafbro.

You can start by familiarizing yourself and others with this man. He is one of the only intellects in Canada standing up the leftist authoritarianism in educational institutions and he is basically alone, and left in the dark by his fellow colleges. He speaks, and aims for the standard of Truth.

Canada needs to push for a Bill of Rights.
It can even be separate from their Constitution, but they need the populace behind them.
Personally, I would model it on the U.S. Bill of Rights (but then, I'm an American), but I'd modify the wording to be so specific the leftists couldn't parse the words a single inch. And I'd add an amendment to include the right to own at least a certain number of acres of contiguous property, as your primary abode, without public lien or taxation of any kind on it, nor any structure you build on it. This is a severe oversight on the part of our founding fathers, and one WE, as Americans, need to consider and rectify, as well.

I feel for you Canada, I really do, as we are under attack by the same slimy, disgusting filth that you are.
It's time for action against them, for they are not as numerous as we, and their power lies entirely in the ownership of the propaganda outlets. But even this can be stripped from them, and it must be if we are to prevail.

Canada seems to be following suit with Great Britain's politics with regard to political correctness. We can hope that Brexit will have some sort of visible impact in the near future and from there Canada can attempt to follow suit.

Canada has a constitution that guarantees freedom of expression, its just that the supreme court overruled the constitution.

Are you fucking stupid? There's no such things as "fundamental rights"; you can't point to a "right" the way you can point to your eyes. Free speech, to whatever degree is allowed, is nothing but an agreement between people due to the benefits it has in some areas of society. Free speech exists only by way of behavioral Darwinism, and if free speech becomes used to promote harmful and destructive messages like race mixing, feminism, consumerism etc, then it will die by behavioral Darwinism too. If you throw a human into the wilderness as an infant and they survive for any significant amount of time, they will have no ability to speak; how can speech possibly be considered a "right" conveyed by existing, when any isolated, wild man cannot develop speech at all? Speech comes as a result of communication with other people, it is completely dependent on congregations of other humans, it is not inherent to the individual.

This is how we ended up in this position, along with the usury of the kikes, their propaganda-machine has been their most effective tool to control and subvert us to do their bidding. What you don't get is that all this democracy-loving is still within in the confines of the enemies game and the whole idea is to make us slaves and subdue us, ultimately erase us and slander our history forever. The importance people put in free speech and democracy is a fallacy, it's a political correct way of attacking the media, it's the cowards way because just like immigration, it ultimately hurts our way of living and could be dangerous for our future.

It's not like they didn't imprison dangerous conspirators back in the day for speaking their mind. If they were a threat to the kingdom or nation they were killed or shunned out, like they should be. It happens today aswell, only it's people who stands up for the various white people that gets thrown in jail due to inciting riots or hate-speech-laws.

We don't have free speech.

Society so degenerate that everyday people wearing ties is now

it's to shame the opposition, if every modern fascist wear a uniform and dress like a gentleman and all the antifas and SJWs wear degenerate hair and sloppy clothing, who do you think wins the court of public opinion.

Not too mention swaying the pussy vote via tip top tailoring. Chicks dig a finely dressed man

Let's keep in mind, that if we remain calm and don't wig out and try to censor people, we'll be ultimately looked at as the best political solution in of itself. That being said, there is no true way of preserving free speech other than recruiting people to join us in protesting FOR free speech and/or protesting in favor of a certain cause which would be seen as "un-PC"like boycotting [as] and supporting MDE in their endeavors including petitioning them to be on a different network if at all possible. That's just the way it works, there's no magic button OP and others, we just have to keep fighting and remaning calm so that we look like the best political stance available. Is that not a good answer?

hi FBI.

Symbolism is important for a movement and when you have a flag that looks like a traffic sign and a uniform that makes you look like a faggot guess what? You're gonna attract people who enjoy that kind of submissive office worker symbolism.

Not to mention it's probably a Swedish Federal Police honeypot anyways.

Tough one. Free speech with a tough arm nudging you to the redpill would be the best system. Redpill is correct and true, cannot be disproved or shot down. Uncuck the media and schooling, have kids taught good, wholesome ideals as well as the truths we know and we won't have to worry about the future.

no user, cowardice and lack of proper education kills the nation, not free speech. read this and prove me wrong.

no one wants to look like a faggot, user. There's nothing faggier than having some sort of uniform that slabs the SA and early SS.

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The fudge we do. We need a party who fights for the white race. Free speech just means you're giving jews a platform to converge too like maggots until they gain enough power to censor you. The second they can, they do it.
(see term racist, sexist, etc.)

Here's how this works. Free speech for the racially indigenous component of the respective state. Whites, in our case. NOBODY ELSE GETS IT. They shouldn't even have citizenship to begin with, all they do is come here and leech off us.

It's unfortunate that you live in a nation without fundamental rights.

Yeah, and how do you go about doing that? You have to start with a neutral platform, or else you won't get past a dozen guys with a microphone before you get utterly shit on by the communists and labeled a white supremacist hate group and black listed from Public Assembly.

How do you think we got into this mess? "What is fake news."
No, we're done. If we're going to play the multiracial game in our own country, then we're going to promote OUR PEOPLE. Let me know when you walk into a BLM and La Raza rally and get them to play the "neutral" game.

Kill yourself.

I dont get why you nazis want free speech so you can talk about jews and thenget tiggered by this. (gj m8)

How do you protect the First Amendment? By invoking the Second Amendment.

Free speech isn't just a white value, it's an Anglo-Saxon value. It's very hard for other ethnic groups to really comprehend it. This is why the founders didn't want mass immigration from Germans and French.

This thread looks like jesting to me.

Hitler's dubs deserve a response.
I might think it was jesting but jews are commies and also the gayest race on the planet.

>>>/liberty/
>>>/oven/
>>>/suicide/

Let me rephrase that. In what country, right now do White Nationalists control the media? Where do they have the superior public image, abundant resources, and the means with which to do ANY of the things you've suggested?

I don't like communists, fuck them. I'm saying the Media supports them over White Nationalists every damn time. So you can sit there be as pissed off as you want, you're not going to get anything done by busting out the Swastikas and marching on Washington.

You are not listening to a Goddamn thing I'm saying. You seem to think that there is only one extreme or the other and that's why you're sitting behind a computer arguing with another stranger on the internet instead of actually influencing the world as you see fit. You can keep bitching and moaning or you can actually listen to me and let me explain why this will be beneficial to you.

criminally underchecked dubs

Seriously, all of you want to rush into this without a goddamn cause, without the man power, the money, the supplies, to do anything. You want to sit here and LARP about how the White Man is superior despite the fact that NatSoc public speeches keep getting wrecked by groups of 400+ anarchists, antifas, and communists. They're a bunch of cowards, HOWEVER, they have more balls that the vast majority of you that don't even have the testicular fortitude to go a fucking Trump rally.

I don't give a shit how badly you want the 4th Reich, we do not live in a White controlled media age, we are literally eclipsing the point in time in which Whites are the most looked down upon race in the Western World. So have fun dreaming about putting on your Brown shirts and subjugating minorities, but that shit is not going to fucking happen right out the gates, if at all.

You HAVE to start small, you HAVE to create a group that can withstand the hatred and bigotry and hypocrisy of the media and public at large. You don't to like the fucking games they play, but if you can't play it yourself, you'll never get past the starting line.

If you think I'm wrong, don't just say I'm wrong, give an alternative solution.

Heh. Start explaining then. Remembering, of course, that every republican has been called a nazi/sexist/racist since the 60's.

Alright, how did any Right Wing group take power? 2 says, violent Coup or a neutral platform supporting the masses.

We're sure as shit not in a position or a time period where violent coups are going to work so completely forget about that option altogether.

You said that the Republicans have been called nazis/racist/sexist from the 60s. They're also one of the two largest political parties in the nation. They have billions of dollars worth of donations, millions of supporters, career politicians, and thousands of political lobbyists. Do the NatSocs have any of that? No.

Now how do we get from here, with nothing, to even 1% of the power, influence, and resources that the Republican party has? Not by reinforcing the stereotypes that you just mentioned. The GOP has decades worth of power and influence to withstand the scrutiny of the media. They have nearly half the nation on their side who don't give a shit what anyone calls them.

NatSocs, White Nationalists, etc are viewed as little more than fringe groups by the vast majority, that's even coming from other Right Wing parties and conservatives. You don't win a game by being excluded by your own team.

Right now Far Left extremists have a HUGE crowd of upset, angry, and disenchanted youths to draw from. Especially with the loss of the election they are growing increasingly violent and numerous in their counter protests and public marches. To counter that we need to create a platform that win both the physical struggle at these Public Assemblies, and the favored image by the media.

It's a lot harder to slide the news when you have photographic evidence of events, such as the Lefties clearly attacking what was otherwise a peaceful event and being pushed back by a neutral party that was supporting the Free Speech rights of a more right leaning group that just wanted to be heard.

Now that you've been so kind as to listen to my side of the argument, what do you propose?

I agree with everything but this portion. How do we win if we cuck to their kill words and spend our time arguing that "we're not racist, sexist, etc," when we could be pushing white identity?
We already have the statistics that say the republican party is 89% white. Why beat around the bush? Go full pro white, insert the ideas into the Zeitgeist, shove that Overton Window to the right. At worst, we lose 11% of the party. At best, we gain a whole lot of white people looking for a party/platform where they're not continually demonized.

gallup.com/poll/160373/democrats-racially-diverse-republicans-mostly-white.aspx

Fence sitters have trigger speech that, if they hear it, lets them dismiss the truths they don't want to acknowledge.

This is why some white nationalists worry about coming across as racists. Especially newer ones. They remember there are millions and millions of normies like them on the fence about race realism. We don't want to accidentally push them back in the mud.

Richard Spencer has actually figured out a way to get around this and does it all the time. Watch this speech. He never lets himself fall into their stereotypes it's funny to hear the chimps fucking raging because he wouldn't while still doing everything he needs to inspire a sense of white identity.

I should have worded that better. By not giving them the ability to use those stereotypes against us. By default the leftist extremists would call any largely white group racist/sexist/etc, and that's not what I care about in the least. It's when the media picks up on that and runs with it. Like how they tried so hard to discredit Trump when David Duke basically endorsed him. This is as much a war of public image as it is a war of physical confrontation and the ability to speak your mind.

The other issue is that almost everyone, inside and outside the US, has a preconceived notion of what White Nationalism is, and for the vast majority it's a negative image. Even those that support the notion are afraid of participating in a movement that could cost them their jobs and livelihoods for be associated with a group that is publicly labeled any of those stereotypes we mentioned.

The physical movement is like paying checkers, you have to keep moving forward. But the image movement is like Chess, you have to move in every direction and plan 10 steps ahead while also moving your chess pieces. You can't just jump full on 4th Reich into any of this or you risk alienating a large potential supportive userbase.

You have to start with a neutral platform that allows a wider group of like minded people to participate and get involved. Through that means you can slowly red pill them further or give them the ability to further express their thoughts on issues that they share with you.

He's good. I'm glad he's on our team. Great asset. I just wish he'd hurry up and condemn homosexuality, 'cause we know it's definitely not a white value. dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2220120/White-people-likely-gay-Huge-study-reveals-highest-proportion-homosexual-people-African-American-community.html

I dunno man. This comes down to the Edge Factor, I think. For my part, the Edge Factor of 4/pol/ kept me around, even when I saw "nigger hate" threads and "NatSoc Generals." This was like, eight months ago back when I still identified as a socially liberal economically conservative libertarian, arguably the farthest point from White Nationalist. We just need statistics to see what sources bring people over and restore their racial identity. The continual melee factor was nice too, lots of fun to say whatever the crap you wanted without being b& by mods.
Although what Spencer's doing is objectively true too. Probably a mixture of approaches.

I'm slowly putting together a website and forum based around what I'm suggesting. I may be too idealistic, but I like the notion of being able to defend and protect the rights to Free Speech and Public Assembly. It's harder to be looked down upon when you're standing on the moral high-ground.

OP, anons are right. We do not need to prop up people who would try to destroy our countries. There are ways to offer free speech without encroaching on the rights of individuals.

Plenty of ways to combat this without encroaching on an individual's ability to say what they want.

That was never the premise or goal. What I'm referring to is "selective" Free Speech. We get to pick and choose who we are supporting while still maintaining a platform of neutrality. I'm not saying go out and protect BLM's right to protest. Fuck that. What I'm saying is stand up to the far left extremists that are time and time again using their numbers and violence to silence the right's ability to speak freely in public forums.

Like here youtube.com/watch?v=cnFEkIoa28I

Violence isn't exactly a free speech issue. Most of the issues we face exist because news organizations are being turned into one-way propaganda outlets. Stop that, and you fix many of these problems.

That is on the long list of issues that the group would have to tackle. Which would start by gaining legitimacy by supporting basic human rights. From there you can use the influence you've garnered to impact have a larger voice in the media. I may not agree with everything Eric Byler has to say, but the man knows to use the public spotlight to his advantage is a calm and collected manner.

youtube.com/watch?v=muf3XYTXfHk

By saying whatever you want and having the facts to prove it.

And reported.

GOOD. NO ONE WANTS TO SEE ANCHORED THREADS AT ALL.

So then their constitution DOESN’T guarantee it, because the court was magically able to bypass it.

Having a hundred independent voices shouting the same thing will never be as loud as having them together as a collective.

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Proving once and for all that a constitutionally limited government is a failure of an idea

I take back what I said before in this post about him needing to condemn homosexuality. White identity is enough to make these people go completely berserk. He's the real deal, I'm convinced now. Nobody who was controlled opposition would rile the hornet's nest up that well.

I don't think Trump will be targeted anymore, I think they'll be gunning for Spencer now. Hope he stays safe.

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Problem isn't just kikes running their fucking mouths, it's the fact they they silence any and all opposing ideas either overtly or by funding proxie niggers.

enough ppl see them as scheming faggots that need proper neutralizing, the quicker problems will be resolved on a global level.

same for New York City too, in fact that's the exact law the was enforced to stop the KKK from having a march some years ago.

Ideally the police need to be on top of it and crack down on shit like Anitfa. If they show up and start causing a problem, anyone associated with antifa or the hostile group needs to be immediately arrested and detained for violating the free speech of others.

We need to either have laws like that in place, or we need to be ready to fight. If we can't count on the police to enforce the law, then we need to be meeting their street violence with harsher and more brutal street violence to deter them from even trying it. If a couple blood baths happen and a bunch of antifa wind up seriously injured then I guarantee they'll think twice before trying it again.

You Nordfront fellas should use ear-piece CB radios, like the secret service have. That would be useful for coordination and communication but also look very professional.
Flags look great. If you read Mein Kampf, Hilter says that the population were very much impressed by the early NSDAP marches and their flags. There should be a strong visual appeal in your marches, which you seem to have.

Make sure the radio channel is secured by encryption though, but also keep in mind that the encryption key could be compromised by the NSA or MI6.
Also, you should have party badges.

That's not how it's being used, you retarded shill. Crackdowns only ever happen against us.

The other main thing is that ALL OF YOU need to be properly trained. Do not just go pick up a weapon you barely know how to use and go stand somewhere. If you haven't done infantry-grade time in a certain number of years or trained by one, then you are not a serious warrior.
A group of serious warriors can be armed to the teeth and not look like a bunch of retards. They would also have the discipline not to start shit and not to fuck up their EOF or other SOPs. If none of you know about that, it just proves my point.
I say this all the time: find a veteran and get yourself properly trained–it is the answer to many of your problems. These Black Panther idiots are untrained and can't even stand properly, the fucking monkeys.

In this day and age of mass media, a single person's message can be amplified a thousand fold. 'Power' in the form of masses of idiots can be countered by clever instances and uses of the spotlight when it shines on you.

Make any action they can take against you into a benefit for your cause. Present yourselves as non-threatening, reasonable, and courteous so when they scream in your face, swing at you with sticks, or wail how awful you are they look like madmen. There's a reason why National Socialists were/are well-groomed and sharply-dressed - it naturally makes them look like noble gentlemen against the foaming hordes.

It isn't about winning the melee that may or may not ensue, nor is it about convincing the idiot fuckers in front of you of your cause. It is about the many more people watching in from the sides, how they see you and how they see your foes. If you appear as the nobler party, people will naturally listen to you more readily no matter what your argument is, because human beings have all kinds of irrational shortcuts to their reason. Marxists have to use those kinds of psychological tricks all the time to push their poison - you will use it to push reason and facts.

But it takes balls, rhetorical skills, and stoic temperament. It takes practice standing up to people and defying them. Some will go nuts and rave and spit and wail, but remember that they are predominantly weak-willed cowards who will not strike at you unless they feel safe and secure.

Anyone who has any resources on the art of rhetoric, group think, speechcraft, and so on should post it here for fellow anons to research and practice.

right message but you sound and look like a fag.
if you're joe schmoe and you want to be prepared, treat firearms, shooting, and ground warfare like anything else. learn the basics, practice, improve, repeat. theres plenty of military manuals published in their entirety online, give them a read. practice what they teach, make drills to test your skills, and always seek to learn more.

There's no such thing as a fundamental right. You either have power or not, that's it.

Why are you so worried about free speech elsewhere when there is none here?

7 stickied official "correct thought" threads here and 25-33% of all threads in the catalog are locked

Pol says:

If people don't want to read something they don't have to. If there is a healthy competition for objects of interest, anything that isn't popular will naturally take a back seat to what is popular.

Basically you are advocating for some vague definition of what is popular without considering any of the ways this definition could be manipulated by moderation or shilling.
You are advocating for an echo box.

The point is you can't have free speech without giving ideas that are presently unpopular a chance.
But the retard spergs on this board are egged on by insane moderation and shills and shill-bots that echo the same insane call to brainless conformity.

It's the great problem have people who feel entitled to an opinion without any rational thought. These people need to be bullied, not protected.>There's nothing wrong about bumplocking threads which get legitimately saged. Deletion is reserved for spam, but there's no reason to let an autist keep bumping his shit thread and force everyone to listen to it once many have said they have no interest. They can keep shitposting in it, but not on page one.

lots of funny things start happening once you get marked as some one who speaks out against the flow of things here.

This place is totally compromised by state intelligence.

>picture of antifa and a cop
weak bait, see

lel

then they aren't fundamental rights

I learned more on my own, reading books, and getting cheap training and training others then I ever did in the military. If you can judge character, find someone to teach based on that, if you can't, asking a veteran is a quick way to learn what not to do.
None of which has fuckall to do with protesting.

Have a bump and Óðins take on this

hvars þú böl kannt,
kveð þú þér bölvi at
ok gef-at þínum fjándum frið.

where you evil see,
speak out against it,
and never give your enemies peace

Bad translation mushroom head

Keeping the poetic value is hard, you lack so many words!

Kikes remove christianity

Never did they realize, what was under,
what wanted out, what wanted free.

We are their worst nightmare, because we know
we know what they are, we know and understand
what they are doing,
but as always so perververtedly wrong and unholy

EVERYTHING
WE SEE THEM
WE SMELL THEM

They are so stupid

you have been brainwashed to believe they are smart

They are not, they are lazy and stupid
burgers after all for the most part,
but lazy think they know everything,
they are so wrong

Say hello to you far far far far far far distant somehow connected relative, weather I like or not
you like it or not
can't deny it

WE KNOW ALL ABOUT BLOTING
WE KNOW ALL ABOUT BINDING TONGUES

We invented that, but not degenerate like you

Used to think that. Not any more.

...

We need a thread open at all times to keep an eye on Antifa fags and dox them then possible. They should no longer feel free to protest or upset our activities. They should be forced to hide in the shadows not us, local law enforcement most likely has a rap sheet on many of them for at least petty shit and we could give Antifa the same treatment we give gangmembers/drug dealers.

Free speech is a made up concept. it is not binding in any way, and for all intents and purposes, does not exist.

No, there should be grounds for protecting your country/community/group from subversion, and protecting the sacred images, icons, people, etc. from defilement. Believing that everyone is entitled to the right to say whatever they like makes you a leftist. Just because the left is in power now, doesn't make power bad.

Fuck no. Go be a lolberg somewhere else.

There's not even such a thing as "Natural born rights", you don't have rights the same way you have an arm that you're born with and can point to as proof of having one. Free expression is an agreed upon principle that only even exists because everyone in the country agrees to let it exist. If a child is raised by wolves, they won't even have the ability to speak, how can we claim to have a natural right to speak when speaking isn't even a "natural born" ability to speak, but instead must be taught how to speak?

Rights are not real, we should base our laws on what is best for society, that's all there is to it, and if it benefits our society to mount miniguns on a few helicopters and mow down every Black Lives Matter riot or anti-Trump protest in sight, then that's what we do.

You nigger, that just creates an envrionment where (((They))) can stir dissent, the truly best world would be the one where we allow assholes to speak out and then use facts to show everyone just why they're wrong and shut them down then and there.

Hahahahahahahahahahahahaha, no. We're the only ones who should be allowed speech because we're the only ones who are actually right. Everybody else gets the rope.

Facts don't convince anyone, except a very small rational minority. If facts did, everyone would hate niggers for instance. Total free speech is why we are in the mess we're in today. It gives a platform for enemies to sow poisonous ideas and divide the populace. Ideas that are bad for society should not be allowed.

how many US anons would actually meet up for a demonstration against the left, even if you had to travel to a nearby state?

You're being too idealistic. Realistically, the Constitution has been used by anti-whites against us, and we're going to have to shut down the white displacement that's occurring right now. Think of it like this: Russia went through a long period where the Soviets attempted to wipe out Christianity, but now they're experiencing a spiritual revival. Maybe we'll have a liberal or liberty revival someday, but now is not that time. We can bring that back when it no longer aids the existential threat that we face.

What good would a demonstration do?

free speach fuck yeah :^)

"Go back to fucking EUROPE or somewhere"

Why does the left always sound so disingenuous and imitative?

prbly more than whining about the left on imageboards

What would we even do? Hold up a sign that says "I disagree"?

I support freedom of speech for gentiles only

hold up signs/flags with pepe, swastika, etc.

taunt antifa and others into a street brawl.

Waste of time. Hit the range and make sure you're prepared to do something that matters if the time ever comes.

please go to Holla Forums if you feel like larping

have you ever even been in a fight, user?

What makes you think that's all I do? Is that all you do? Protesting, unless it's well-organized and large, does nothing.

hence the question:

how MANY anons would meetup?

implies an interest in large numbers
implies an organized meeting

In what world does not picking fruitless fights with random strangers by waving around signs of Pepe equate to never going outside and effectively larping?

answer honestly.

You won't find MANY people who are going to go protest with a random stranger on an anonymous imageboard for discussion. If you want to network with other redpilled right-wingers, go to the TRS forums.

reported and filtered for TRS

Not anything serious, no. I'm sure this fact somehow makes your logic pristine.

Natt, pls go

these people exist.
theyre going to protest no matter how many rare pepes you post on image boards. theyre going to attack cops, women and even kids because no one is out there as resistance.

so im asking: how many of you would be that resistance? think about it a few days. is shitposting worth personal injury? it is to me. you?

this, protests are for monkeys, it's better to go operating innawoods, pick'em off and torture the fuck out the ones who look like they'll talk

But seriously, what's wrong with TRS? They're on the same page as Holla Forums on just about everything.

Cops aren't helpless retard.

they arent? cops are afraid of doing their job in fear of some pussy liberal filing a lawsuit. wake up, goy.

Then you'd be doing a counter-demonstration with a clear purpose beyond waving around dank memes irl, and I'd be 100% down for that.

they shill the alt-right label, and they're PR pussies

Do you know any cops? I do, they're not fucking afraid of a bunch of leftists.

They're getting shit done

yeah?

reuters.com/article/us-usa-police-insurance-idUSKCN0WJ2R1

nypost.com/2016/07/15/stop-and-frisk-restrictions-have-nypd-cops-afraid-of-being-sued/

when you get serious let me know, because im ready.

Yeah, being PR fags, that's awesome.

That's not going to convince me that's cops, all of the sudden, became pussies and can't do their jobs. Your argument is inherently retarded and makes no sense. The day that police disappear from the streets is the day your argument is valid. Buying insurance is practical and New York City is a degenerate hellhole that needs to be nuked, I bet cops there stopped doing their jobs people would beg them to do stop-and-frisk.

fuck off.

Hindered in their duty? What the fuck are you talking about? Millions of cops are out there right now, doing their fucking jobs just fine without your wanting to LARP as a cop.

when you stop being a pussy let me know

washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2016/10/07/ferguson-effect-savagely-beaten-cop-didnt-draw-gun-for-fear-of-media-uproar-says-chicago-police-chief/

Being a pussy for not entertaining your retarded arguments based off of piecemeal evidence that could easily be countered by opposite endless evidence of cops doing their jobs without fear? I don't have any goddamn time for that. Think about what you're trying to argue instead of just posting links to random news articles retard.

They care about living up to their own standards and presenting that image to the public so people with similar beliefs and values, and the agency to live up to them will be attracted. And that's accomplished a lot.

nice argument. i accept your defeat. pussy

Which apparently grossly diverge from our own.

A debate requires more than sources faggot, you have to actually articulate yourself.

your defeat has been accepted

Your denial of reality has been acknowledged.

They're not pro-fag, if that's what you're implying with that out of context tweet.

fuck off alt-kike

Also,
neck yourself

What if a thousand men wore riot gear and gas masks and did a protest march wearing also legally owned firearms?

If they pull out the tear gas, good luck. If they break out batons and shields, let the schlock battle begin.

Let them fire the first shot

What would they do? Deploy tanks?
As long as we didn't initiate violence we can claim freedom of assembly.
And what if that number was 10,000?

I think this is best achieved by abandoning the leftist framework for which they use when speaking about "free speech".

The left has begun treating "free speech" purely as a legal matter. Which means they no longer argue for freedom to say what you want, merely the freedom to legally say what you want which now has limitations in many areas that consider certain things hate speech or "inciting violence". So they've moved goal posts enough times that there now is a doublespeak version of freespeech used where people on the right treat it as meaning you should be free to say what you want, no matter how deplorable, whereas those on the left treat free speech as meaning you only get to say what is socially approved (with their side deciding what is approved).

So what needs be done, is to stop ever arguing within their framework. Do not respond to their arguments that suggest free speech is a law rather than a concept and instead ridicule them when they try to pose such arguments. That's the part that's difficult to accomplish which is why nothing is really moving on it, you need to create some sort of meme to get the point across that liberals are engaging in doublespeak and that their version of "free speech" means limiting free speech. Which is a point complicated enough that I don't know how you'd condense it into a simple meme.