What do you guys think of Hbomberguy?

What do you guys think of Hbomberguy?

youtube.com/watch?v=vYQo6LI3Y7c

He doesn't really make "lefty" videos, but he's very clearly a leftist and his content is pretty funny. Any other lefty youtubers like him?

Other urls found in this thread:

youtu.be/XmKGPRXE-xw
iwpr.org/initiatives/pay-equity-and-discrimination
iwpr.org/publications/pubs/the-gender-wage-gap-2014-earnings-differences-by-race-and-ethnicity
quietgirlriot.wordpress.com/2011/04/28/against-feminisms/
kff.org/other/state-indicator/adult-poverty-rate-by-gender/
twitter.com/SFWRedditGifs

Do we have this every week or every day?

He's spooked as fuck.

How so?

If you watch more than one of his videos you can see that he either falls to liberal traps or he is a liberal himself.

I have watched quite a few of his videos. I have not seen that, care to show me an example?

There's literally nothing wrong with feminism as long as it utilizes an economic analysis of society instead of a "people r just so mean" one.

minimum security gulag

He kind of feels like a fair-weather ally.

He's w smug liberal with leftist characteristics.

He's revealed his power level in a few videos.

yeah, as an sjw

No, he's advocated for Marxism in a few videos. Talked about the capitalist slave machine.

I know that, but r/FULLCOMMUNISM claim to be Marxists too, that doesn't mean they're not fucking retards

There's plenty wrong with that movement on a fundamental level. Even then hBomberguy is clearly of them more cancerous liberal variety.

How? Marxist feminism is pretty cool.

Ignore him, these people are still channers so they become hostile towards any person that defends feminism against bad anti-feminist critiques. Some here will hide behingmd the 'm-muh idpol', ignore these posters too.

When Hbomber goes after social liberals and bourgeois liberal feminism, then I'll respect him.

Read Juliet Mitchell.

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Why does he have to do that? He says he thinks stuff like the "1 in 5" statistic is reductionist, but something to look into. Is nuance not allowed when looking at a complex social science like feminism?

The entire movement is fonded on the perspective of wealthy women and their relationship to the males of their class. I don't really out much stalk into "Marxist" feminism when they still preach the usual garbage like modern day "patriarchy" theory, the gender pay gap and rape culture.

Kek. I needed the laugh the fam thanks.

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Im on my phone m8, try again

Yet another thread of people that belong in reddit defending a redditor because "some of his vids are good…"

I like him because he makes fun of the aut-right.

He's a redditor?

ITT: butthurt sargonites

not even that user, I was just havin a giggle

That I can accept. As entertainment. I'll even whatch Bananaman as entertainment.


No. His vids are reddit tier.

It's nkt 2014 anymore, that meme is old and stale, now I know back on r/4chan they still use old memes to seem hip but that doesnt work here. Go back

So, was there never ever a patriarchy in the west then? Is that what you're saying? Like when it was legal to hit your wife, and pay someone less or not hire them because they're a women? Patriarchy didn't exist then. Huh, well you learn new things everyday.

Nice argument.

This is not the leftypol I met a year ago

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you know strawmanning isn't an argument either, right?

Please, just go back already, you blew your cover the moment you pressed 'new reply', you're not fooling anyone, and on your way out can you tell the rest of your reddit bros that it's time to pack it up and head home?

No of course not. That's why I said modern day "patriarchy theory". For most of western history we lived in a patriarchal society but it's been dying since at least feudalisms and it's basically dead here in the west. The nuclear family is barely even limbing along at this point.

You said the movement was flawed fundamentally because it viewed Western society as patriarchy. So when the first and second wave feminist were discussing patriarchy, did it or did it not exist in the West? And if it did, why is them viewing society as patriarchal a fundamental flaw with the movement?

I never said the movement was flawed because it views society is patriarchal. It's flawed because it applied the social relationship between wealthy men and women to society as a whole. The narrative of the muh privileged male and the subjected female is the one I take issue with. It only accurately describes the relationship between wealthy women and wealthy men. Let's take women's suffrage for example, for the majority of history poor men also couldn't vote just like women.

At the time men were more "muh muh privileged" than women in a legal sense. Do you have the same issue with the civil rights movement as well?

Why? Because this is where idiot "leftists" come from. They come from "learning" socialism/Marxism/anarchism on Youtube. Most of these idiots are just social liberals dressed as socialists because they're attracted to its aesthetics. One of our biggest enemies isn't even the aut-right, but the social liberal right-wing. Don't complain when people start spouting trivial shit and tearing up here, and engage in bourgeois "radical" things in the name of "socialism"

Seriously, Xexizy may not know a lot, but he's someone I prefer because he's not into the whole bullshit most other socialists are and this includes LSR and Hbomber guy who pander to social liberals.

I won't denounce Anarchopac because even though he is into idpol, he actually reads theory and book and is familiar with Marxist theory and history.

Fuck off.


Patriarch stops as capitalism evolves.
The first wave was prol women demanding equal pay and bourgie women demanding vote and the right to have property and inheritance. For them. The bourgies.

Second wave was women demanding to be able to do what they want with their lives. They did and now there is no more "Patriarchy".

Third wave is a nomenklature that does not want to stop getting money from idiots and keeps feminism alive by making it all about "Feelings".

If anyone tells you there is Patriarchy in the US tell them it's Capitalism.

Ignore this poster, he's a tumblrina and gets triggered when he has to deal with reality.

What about stuff like outdated rape laws that still exist in the U.S.?

every law that exists in the U.S. is outdated

Like……..

Oh, you mean like "women cannot rape men" or something?

Our law is oudated in general, cause it's based on Roman Law.

I take issue with stuff like the legal example I gave. Applying the muh privileges of wealthy men to all men. The civil right's movement isn't comparable. Black people actually use to occupy a distinct social class in the U.S. Wealthy women poor women are not subjected in the same way. Which goes back to my main issue. Feminism has always been overly concerned with the issues of wealthy women and tries to apply the dynamic between wealthy men and wealthy women to all men and all women.

Except everything you just said is complete bullshit that doesn't make sense

Oh, you mean like "There are not enough women/nigg.. POC CEOs"?


No. Please. Not again. Don't you ever have anything better to do?

Shit.. I'm outta here!

go home anfem you're spooked

I'm not going home. Because this is my home now.

Give an example.


[Citation Needed]

The concerns of Feminism should be concerns of all women regardless, sexual objectification, rape culture, reproductive rights, slut shaming, income inequality.

Just because there aren't many class conciouss feminists, doesn't mean they don't push movements that affect poor people too. I also forgot to add, Paid Maternity Leave to

spellcheck is cancer

I like Hbomberguy, but I don't agree with everything he says

First and second wave feminism pushed for things that benefit poor and rich women alike. A lot of them were socialist to, and wanted to disband capitalism all together.

Quality post as usual anfem.


Yeah essentially.


Poor women lack access to proper reproductive care and child care. Which limits their earning potential.


And that's the problem with feminism. Poor women should under no circumstances have solidarity with wealthy women over poor men in anyway shape or from. I'm not even going to get into half the garbage into your post like "rape culture" , "slut shaming" and "sexual objectification" Which just proves my point that you advocate for the same bullshit that liberal feminists do. Wealth inequality and reproductive rights don't deserve to be placed with that other spooky bullshit.

I did like his sargon video.

You're mixing together what you hear on college campuses into some weird stereotype soup of liberal feminism you think reflects radical feminism. It's very amusing. You're very amusing.

youtu.be/XmKGPRXE-xw

I forgot link

Yeah you can put up the draw bridge all you want. I'm not buy what you're selling. At the end of the day you push the same crap like he wage gap and the idea of rape culture. I'll have nothing to do with any of it.

I just did.

OK.

How is that a criticism of Feminism? You've only given proof that poor people benefit from Feminism more than rich people.

If only 1 class is getting proper care, that's a fault of the States and laws. The focus of Feminism is bringing reproductive rights world wide. If you care about poor women having limited earning potential, you should be a feminist.


You sound like a snowflake, but rich women experience all sorts of discrimination too.

There's very little distinction between Liberal feminists and Marxist feminists. Just because one group isn't as class conscious, does not mean they're not on the same side. These people aren't far right conservative shitbags, these are compassionate liberals who want to use the state to help solve things like wealth inequality and limited earning potential.

Also, you clearly have never read Stirner if you think these things are spooks. If you can't see that our culture is not flawed in any way, then you need to stop drinking the kool-aid and read a book.

He's ok.

And this is where we have to put a foot down and say, NO! FUCK YOU!

This is why I hate feminism. This bourgie propaganda of "Popular Singer X is being "descriminated" while earing millions. You filthy peasant man should be ashamed!"

NO!

Yeah that bit was to much for me.

Women earn 20% less than men do on average, while I agree that the biggest factor is certainly not workplace discrimination, you dismissing the pay gap proves that you can't think critically about why women are earning less. You're a filthy reactionary that needs to be gassed so women can feel comfortable with joining the far Left.

Holy shit, this stupidity..

Fuck off social liberal.

It's not propaganda, as a Marxist Feminist I certainly don't care as much about the wealthy's problems but to deny that they aren't tied to stigmas women face in general, is absolute bullshit.

citation fucking needed

Drink bleach.

Oh yes. The infamus "wage gap".

So, tell me. Why should I care how much you get paid, when the CEO is paid far more and does far less? Is the problem whether you get 10 or 12 $ per hour, or the fact that you cannot have a life worth living regardless of it?

And this is why liberalism is shit.


HUMANS face "Stigmas". Everyone gets shit. It's not the "Patrarchy". It's pure ideology. The fact that feminists want to make it all about "Women" is not in any way promoting class con or revolutionary potential.

Then you admit it's liberal bullshit and a problem inherent within capitalism itself.

Keep posting all the memes you want, it won't make you less of an idiot.

It's no the one thing, it's the bases of all the dissagriments I have with modern feminism!

get over yourself bitch all opinions are valuable even retarded ones like yours

That assumes the 20% pay gap has any basis in reality and isn't merely a bourgeois red herring to distract the masses whilst pay ratios of those at the top continue to increase at the expense of those at the bottom.

anfem, please tell your friends to fuck off and read

iwpr.org/initiatives/pay-equity-and-discrimination


Yes, I do. However, it is an issue that affects women much more negatively than men. And not only that, but men have income and power dominance over women leads to unhealthy and dangerous dynamics.

Man, I really need a Marxist Feminist Flag.


You only have to acknowledge that Capitalism does fuck over women moreso than men. You also have to acknowledge the effects of this income and power imbalance. That's it.

Not an argument.

The point is to abolish wages…


Not at all true. Take the diminishing amount of abortion clinics for example, or even look at the history of abortion clinics in the US before it was legal. At that time wealthy women who didn't care what was legal or not just flew on over to another country and got rid of their problems there, while those that weren't so fortunate had to use less than optimal means to abort and could risk their whole lives or be prosecuted for such.

This study has been debunked time and again and the fact that you still think it is credible only points to how far up your own ass you are.

Yes, you see, it doesn't even matter if it exists or not, cause we are not about getting an extra potato per day from the slave master!

It only matters if you are a reformist scum.

Yeeee! Suuuure! So many women in contruction! So many work accidents! Oh the horrors capitalism forces on women!
No, I do not acknowledge it. In Capitalism we are all equally fucked. Oppression Olympics benefit noone.

In the end my ultimate argument, in the words of Zizek is: No! Fuck you!

Sure, but I don't see how this necessitates feminism and not simply anti-capitalism.

You think capitalism fuck women over more then men?

Who gets drafted and sent to capitalism's war? Men do.
We both suffer, but don't give me bullshit about how women have it so much more worse.

It isn't you asked how for an example of how poor women and rich women were different from one another.


I care about everyone's economic well being and everyones health care that's why I'm a communist. Sounds completely redundant to me.


Yes it does matter. This is why feminism is constantly undermining leftism and supporting neoliberal policies. They have more in common with "far right Conservative shit bags" then leftists. Class based inequality is the source of all other forms of inequality in our society. What a bunch of reformist drivel. You're just proving my original point for me.


Sure I acknowledge that are culture is flawed doesn't mean I have to accept bullshit like rape culture.

Yes, I know. I was still making the point of why Feminism is a much needed tool when it comes down to critiquing and criticizing Capitalism. Dismissing liberal Feminism altogether is a cop-out, if you actually engage and present Marxist solutions, you will be welcomed with open arms and a massive base.

Adding to this, it's a cop-out because the Liberal Feminists do see the problems, they just have little valid solutions for them. That's why it's important not to dismiss feminism regardless of the style.

We're not fucking liberals!! Take your bourgeois liberalism, and fuck off.

Fuck off ignoramus, look how RIDICULOUSLY simplified the report is on a topic so nuanced as pay differentials:

iwpr.org/publications/pubs/the-gender-wage-gap-2014-earnings-differences-by-race-and-ethnicity

I've attached the pdf for everyone else to see too.

It does not differentiate between jobs and occupations, take into account overtime…there's probably more stuff I can tear from this "report".

You should be ashamed for lacking critical thinking skills, not bothering to read the shitty propaganda yourself and proliferating this shitty propaganda as though it were legit though merely wasting all of our time because we actually had to read it for you.

You fucking cunt.

No the fuck they do not. They're idea of accomplishing feminism is having a bunch of transexual female, half-Chinese, half-black, CEO's and presidents. That's fucking feminism for you and all while everybody is being crushed by capitalist forces.

Haha, classic reactionary who can't read. I've already addressed this here.

Your understanding of feminism is so fucking laughable

Your optimism for feminism is even more laughable.

You never getting anywhere is also laughable and now you're just sticking your ass up for leftypol because it hurts to think.

LOL, I thought you were replying to me sorry. Ignore this.

can we stop pretending like this is going to end with either party changing their minds and you just fuck back off to your little shitposting forum

It's more realistic than half the shit you think is possible

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Okay…
Thank you for your admission of being nothing more than a pathetic social democrat.

You never made that point. Any legitimate issue you brought up was already covered in a general anti-capitalist position. Only thing you proved is that feminism is redundant and useless.

You're arguing with multiple people.

I want to chime in whilst we're at it, this same liberal attitude is contemptuous of the working class as well. The idea that so as long as every race, gender and social deviant has equal representation (or more if we consider reparations) in the slave-driving strata then everything is permitted.

It tacitly supports the idea that "shitty" jobs are meant to always be shitty and that it's ok for destitution to continue unabated because for every boot that's on someone's neck, there's also a stiletto on someone else's.

It's akin to when people were saying racism in America had ended because Obama got elected president.

No it wasn't, Holla Forums wouldn't even consider these arguments until just recently and even if we abolish Capitalism, there is no guarantee that we'll be living in a egalitarian paradise until we have full understand and sympathy for these issues. My only points were that Feminists are allies that also have valid critiques of Capitalism. You on the other hand, are painting a picture that Capitalism is the same for both sexes. get out.

shit meant this

for this

So you like Xexizy(even though he's not as well read as Hbomb) because he doesnt defend a group you dont like from unfair criticism?

No, because he sticks purely to leftism and is a good face for the movement given how "normal" he seems. I know xexizy wouldn't pander to social liberals.

No I didn't. Poor women and men can be oppressed in unique ways. I brought up reproductive health care is an example in my earlier post. It doesn't matter capitalisms the source of these problems and these problems can be solved without getting rid of capitalism. You're the one thats fixated on the issues of one sex over the other.

No but the issues you brought up would probably be solved and they'd definitely be way better then under capitalism.


You're the one that believes that people preaching liberal idpol are our "allies" not me. It sounds like reddit would be a better fit for you then this board. This is a board for radical leftists not soc-dems and liberals pretending out be Marxists.

So basically "yes, i like this youtuber because he doesnt defend this group i dont like from infair criticism". There's nothing wrong with preferring a boring l, droning leftypol youtuber but this thing you and other leftypol posters do where every leftists that does something you dont like is not a TRUE leftist but an enemy because something something pandering to social liberals something something distracting people from muh class war is childish t b h. If you dont like hbomb because he defends a group you dont like then just come out and say it, there's no need to hide behind 7 layers of bullshit

Feminism is cancer.

quietgirlriot.wordpress.com/2011/04/28/against-feminisms/

Precisely this is why I think patriarchy theory is still relevant. While the poor men fight porky's war big capital let's you evade conscription.

Yes, but I think the wage gap studies have been able to be dismissed and for good reason too. However, ever since the United States started measuring poverty, women, and especially widowed women in retirement, have always had higher rates. Or there's the fact that like 70-80% of homeless families are headed by women, specifically, by single women with children, and domestic violence is a principal cause homelessness among single mother families. Girls and women do most of the work in poor households to care and feed their family members and other essential tasks. They may gather firewood, water and fodder for animals, care for livestock and tend to crops. This time-consuming, unpaid labor limits poor women’s ability to learn skills and earn outside incomes. Older girls, expected to care for younger children and help their mothers with household chores, are unlikely to go to school, which perpetuates the cycle of women’s disadvantage and poverty.

kff.org/other/state-indicator/adult-poverty-rate-by-gender/

idk… I get tired of arguing with leftypol about feminism.

Okay. Let's start defending conservative liberals too then. Both conservatives liberals and social liberals are right-wingers. In fact, I believe the social liberals are our bigger enemies because they're seen as the "left" and spout shit like "socialism is good because its when the government does shit."

Why are you such a bully? :{

This is ridiculous. It has nothing to do with patriarchy. If all the members of the bourgeoisie were women, everything would still be shit and men would still be sent to war. It was to do with class.

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Men get sent to war because of the Patriarchy, even if there was a war that had to be fought all people should contribute to it. It is the macho culture and objectification of women that led to that, same goes for all the deadly jobs. You sound like a classcuck defending a power structure that does not benefit you. True feminists understand that replacing the bourgeoisie with women wouldn't change anything, just as changing the color of the African bourgeoisie didn't change much.

Also >It was to do with class.
Is my point. The biggest defenders of conscription are bourgeois yet hypocritical avoid it.

Why you you people want to come here and expel all the old users and make the last bastion of communism into yet another r/socialism?

Are we that important? Do you need to cleans the earth of any sing of resistance to the new perverted version of leftism you are forcing on the world?

WTF is going on?


Xex is not "well read" and that's exactly why I like him. as a YTer. No homo. He is creating his self theory as he makes his videos and is trying to be the voice of leftypol. All those "well read" and established channels are the voice of what the left has become in the US/UK and are trying, like so many newfags do here now, to enforce this "new left" onto the world.

Well, sorry, but I'll take Xex anyday!!! still no homo

Holy shit no one cares about what you have to say you stupid greek faggot. Pay those debts and shut the fuck up!

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Thank you.
Your hatred gives me strength to keep fighting the good fight.

Heard it all before, from the people you're decrying.

It sounds like capitalism to me not "patriarchy". Of course they conscription men. The average man is a lot more physically capable then the average women.

She's a massive cunt. She's making you and statue chan look bad.

Patriarchy theory isn't:
men > women so we need to give women more money and freedoms
It's rather a double edged sword. Beyond purely inheritable biology, men are gonna die earlier than women because of stress related disease from the occupations they choose or because of the hazards inherent in the work (oil rigging, military, et c). Or there's the fact that more women take places in university than men…

All of this is looking at conditioning, the way genders are perceived and reified by class, and so on.

That's the only point I'm making by citing the wage gap number. Whatever nuances you want to make in the study, women are still getting paid much less on average for work crucial to human life. That's where I see the importance of the number. It gives us a good measurement and it shouldn't be dismissed just because liberals have misinterpreted the study.

Patriarchy, the lefty kind, Engels' kind, is litteraly "Monogamy cause I need to know my son is mine in order for him to inherit my flok and my field".

And capitalism renders patriarch useless. Capitalism itself destroyes the nuclear family and so on. Socialism is only the next step that will do what capitalism doesn't do. And capitalism doesn't do it cause otherwise people might start thinking.

Remember that British feminists supported people like Mosley.

The nuclear family should be exterminated

There, you see, you are so eager to troll and offend that you miss the point.
It doesn't matter if you "exterminate" it, femiDalek. It's not functioning anymore.

From 3 generations + living together it went to a couple and the kids that are supposed to get out at 18 or something, to single parents and so on.

The logical eventuality is the East German model.

But you NEED to make it a subject for you need the tension or you ideological existance is pointless!

Engels says many things about how women came to be "oppressed" from the neolithic to capitalist era in tOotFPPatS and it's not just about marriage…

Ok then. Elaborate. What else was the cause beyond private property?

In capitalism, it's the separation of private and domestic labour, women occupying the latter moreso.

Also >femiDalek
kekeke

Yes, and even that is becoming obsolete as more and more people live alone, or women are entering the workforce or else the couple cannot make it, thus the man also takes care of the house. Again, capitalism itself renders the patriarchy obsolete, but it does not replace it with anything and that is why we are at a loss.


Well, you want to exterminate… … it also sounds better than feminazi.

Does anyone take this 30 plus year old Greek dude seriously

I hope not!

That wasn't me.
I agree, however capital also makes racism and slavery obsolete, but both still exist in the world albeit in more subversive ways.

Not really, he seems really uninformed on most things(especially american history)

SEE! I TOLD YOU BO!
We need an Authoritarian-Feminist flag to tell the anarcho fems appart from the FemiDaleks!


Yes, again because it cannot replace them with anything. If it let the go away, it would be itself rendered obsolete.

Again, as in science, automation and so on, capitalism is slowing down progress in order to keep itself going!


Why would I bother with 'Murican history, beyond the basics, when I have the whole fucking europian history to deal with.
Eurocentrism is not bad.

He is one of the better posters on this board

No am not!

You keep saying this…could be a good idea…
I think it should be this.

You dont have to, but if you're not actually going to read about american history it would be great if you stopped giving your silly uninformed opinions on different aspects of it.

It wasn't crucial to my argument that it was. I said it just made logical sense for rich men to force poor men to fight their wars. Why poor women stay behind to pump out babies for the slaughter. We don't need to live in a patriarchy for the wealthy to exploit the unique conditions of each gender. There hasn't even been a draft in over 40 years.

I agree. I enjoy his post.

In my state I'm legally prohibited from holding public office because I'm an atheist.

This is correct

Fair enough.

He's funny as fuck

I've never heard someone rape Fallout 3 and the alt right so hard

And neither of these laws are bad?

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do you want someone to radicalize them or not?

you guys act like everyone needs to magically click over into revolutionary socialism straight from being a right-winger.

KEK

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