Californians Liberals agree to sigh pro incest petitions

Not him but you welcome

They'll try to shift the Overton window even further… But we'll slam it back so hard they'll be lucky to even have fags not locked up in hospitals again!

I keep telling you stupid fucks that sexual deviancy (of any kind, even fictional) is the root of this worldwide degeneration. It uproots you and then anything is fucking possible. Control your fucking urges.

You mean they'll try and push the Overton window back their way
But they're trying to push it harder than they possibly can especially now we've pushed the window hard and keep pushing

Seems like a solid way of making america great again permanently.

Still pedo material no matter where it's posted. But we should keep the thread on topic

The only way to end SJWism permanently is early intervention. These kids need to be thrown in a military academy and taught the value of competition and love of country from an early age. They'll automatically sneer at foreigners simply for not putting anything in.

Take the children back from shitlibs and SJWs will be gone in a generation.

Hence why sucessful civilizations would throw fags into bogs even though they theoretically 'harmed no one'. Degeneracy is like a forest fire, leave the smallest ember unchecked and it will eventually consume the whole fucking place.

Christianity is quite huge on this. No wonder atheist Europe is the most decadent shithole on white Earth.

Incest is HOT as fuck. Imagine doing your Mom or doing your DAD…. isn't that nasty???

[…3 years later]

americucks are really lost to what media command them to do. At least we will finally have some pedo marriage laws, too bad only leftists care for it, right wing hates pedo marriage worse than gay marriage.

I'd fuck my sister tbqh fam, but I wouldn't think it is normal and would expect to be judged if people found out.

Successful civilizations also had a combination of two things:

Look at muslims who obsess about virginity, it turned them into goat fuckers and pedorasts.

I call this parity and boundary conditions, concepts I learned from studying physics. If someone says that the almighty god is human-like… then what about aliens, proto-humans, and future humans? What about transcendental beings–are they more transcendental than the almighty god? This theory of god lacks parity. Doesn't make it untrue, but it's a very useful philosophical razor.

Boundary conditions are another one. If someone says that X involes nothing other than Y and no Z, push X to the extremes, where it becomes apparent that Z is a factor.

Pick one and only one, California is the "look how European we are" state.
One of the reasons that gays are hated in the first place is the rate of child molestation among fags, gas yourself kiddy diddler.

Bullshit. It's the "look how progressive we are" state. California is nothing like Europe, the Hollywood materialistic culture doesn't represent Europe at all.

The only European country they resemble is Spain, but they're quite a bit more brown.

European in the sense of modern day ZOG'd Europe lads, should have clarified.

Sweden is the only country as cucked as California, and it's still whiter.

Not for long.

I've always been conflicted on where I stand on this issue. On the one hand, if its two adults choosing to do something (be it faggots or dykes or incest) and they do not infringe on or force it on others or cause directly negative effects on society, why should I then force my views on them in turn? My problem with fags is largely that they force their shit on everyone else, constantly drawing attention to themselves while having unsafe sex and spreading disease with no fucks given, its hedonism through and through, it spreads disease which harms society, and therefore degenerate in multiple ways. If they werent constant attention whores, engaged in normal relationships and not disgusting fetish orgies, didnt fuck to spread AIDS and other STDs constantly, and if the cultural marxists werent constantly pushing young people to be faggots and dykes and in general sexual attraction was just something we didnt talk much about, like who you like and if they like you back be safe but explore it sort of mindset, then where would I have a problem with it? But, naturally, thats not where its all ended up. But is this because of an inherent trait of faggotry, or is it because of cultural marxists push to dissolve the foundations of society?

Its the same problem I'd have with incest if the people who took that road started having children with a high rate of birth defects (though IIRC its only direct family members - mom/brother/dad/sister - that cause the defect rate to sky rocket, even first cousins have around a 4% rate of birth defects, granted it doubles from the normal rate, but its still less than 5% chance), or if weirdos were having families specifically to groom their children to fuck them down the road, and if cultural marxists started pushing for families to "explore their sexualities together to help them all (((grow)))." If it were a thing on its own, that just happened on its own, and they were safe about it and didnt willingly produce fish babies, then how does it effect me and why should I want to intervene to stop them?

At the same time as all of that, its all very degenerate and disgusting (specifically with incest towards immediate family members), and we DONT live in a world free from cultural marxists who will propagandize and force as many people down that road as possible who would otherwise have not gone down it, normalizing it "for everyone" and trying to push the narrative that its something everyone thinks about and should probably try at some point. And naturally its just a stepping stone to push into pedo territory sooner or later

I'd put UK, Germany, and France in the same "daddy government will provide everything, feed me more refugees" basket as well.

Unless Trump builds The Wall really fucking fast and deports the tacos faster than they're coming in Sweden will stay whiter. It doesn't really matter anyway since the EU will collapse fairly soon and Sweden will dissolve into utter chaos as the economy can't support the goat fuckers and the infrastructure and food supplies go to shit.

Sure
Not really, they don't import many "refugees" from the middle east, mainly pakis and poo-in-loos to the major cities and the steady stream of "migrant workers" to londonistan.

Why is this a bad thing? sibling marriage was pretty common in the past, I thought this was a traditionalist board.

I hope you're right but I doubt it. It will probably take a couple more decades for it to completely collapse.

It can't be about "freedom," because California just recently enacted mandatory vaccination in the name of "public health."

They can't possibly care about the rights of two people who truly love and care for each other and happen to be cousins. These progressives just said "fuck you" to everyone with deeply-felt objections to compulsory innoculation.

You're right, Holla Forums, this has to be prep-work for something bigger.

The first guy was coherent, there were no contradictions in his reasoning and it was 100% valid.

The problem is that both SJW and the right (Holla Forums included) are fuckin cucks that need the approval of an higher authority, in this case the State or "society".

This is why we can't have nice things.
There would be nothing wrong with SJW and jews if they weren't using tax money and pushing to force people to accept their ideas and agenda.
But I can sense how Holla Forums would do the same thing, using tax money and trying to force people to live as Holla Forums sees fit.

You are really fuckin stupid.

Royalty would do it. They'd create genetic fuckups like the Hapsburgs, but they did it.

Incest is my only fetish. I'm a hugeeeeeee fan of it and it makes me hard like nothing else.
BUT
I would NEVER engage in anything with the girls of my family, NOR advocate it to anyone. I don't even talk about it with anyone, and it's not even due to some bullshit explanation like "I'm repressed", but because I know that it is wrong in every way, socially and biologically.
It is a hugely dysgenic thing and would transform the QI of society to the same one as of those Islamic countries.

Idiot, incest leads to genetic diseases and lowering of IQ, that's a scientific fact.

Frame it like this: If it seriously hurts our race on a biological level, it's bad.

Thus, racemixing and incest should be illegal.
Child molestation does not harm our race on a biological level, but it does psychologically hurt the child, so this too should be illegal, but for different reasons.
So there you are. That's the bare minimum and was reasoned well.

Things like drugs, alcohol, beastiality, orgies, promiscuity, prostitution, and the like, should not be handled by law, but rather by culture and social pressures. That's it. Anyway wanting to make it illegal to do these things is getting too close to Sharia law or SJW your rights end where my feelings begin; making degenerate things illegal is not natural, because the natural consequences to these actions involve social penalties, rather than jail time. And too, what is degenerate to one person, such as drinking alcohol, is not to another.

You totally saw the video and you totally understood my point.

Good job!

I basically think of incest porn as being a healthy alternative to race-mixing porn. I mean, sometimes things are dark and go against natural order. That's the beauty of chaos. Of course, choose what flavor of chaos you want wisely. Choosing no chaos at all leaves you ineffective memetically. 4chan used to be hot shit back in the day because it mixed order with chaos in just the right amount.

You realize Sweden is more then 30 percent whiter then the United States. And that's going of the US's (((census data))) the real numbers are probably much worse

Keep trying goon, you're sticking out like a sore thumb.
Reported for derailing.

Depends on the closeness of the members

Immediate family? Yup, fish babies and stupid kids, not enough gene variance to prevent negative recessive traits from surfacing

First cousins? supposedly only double the "non-related" rate of defects, but the normal rate is 2%, so you're still talking sub 5% chance of problems. If first cousin marriages and children were common, this would possibly become a problem but only over several generations

Second cousins and beyond? Cant find data on this, though reasoning suggests it wouldnt be any different from the normal population in terms of problems with children produced

Basically some study did a diagram of it and labeled the degree of gene variance into stages. At the first degree theres to much similarity, but as you get outward the variance goes up exponentially and by the time you hit the third degree, where first cousins are, you get to the point you're still not being completely safe but at the same time the overall risk is very small, by the 4th degree or 5th (second cousins) you're pretty much in the clear

Yeah, but again, you're getting into muddy water if thats how you choose to look at it. racemixing? yup, pretty clear cut, same for molesting children, but what about a 13 year old who wants to be a wife/mother and chooses can older man? If shes popping out white babies and improves herself over her life still, how is that bad? Also, with the part of the post before I started replying to you, what about incest with non-immediate (first/second degree) family members? Again, it doesnt seem to have any risk of harm truly associated with it, no more so than already genetically flawed people breeding to begin with, so do we stop one but not the other socially? If someone with a 90IQ and the gene for huntingtons (IIRC you need both genes for it to manifest, but can still pass on one of them for it to find a pair later) meets someone and marries and has a kid, should we have some social "measure" against this because he could harm society with his below average intellect and risk for spreading a genetic condition that basically destroys you by the middle of your life and turns you into a societal and familial burden?

Like I said, muddy water we're treading here, there is no "easy" answer or way of framing any of this if you want to be completely fair to the individual. To TRULY get the best solutions, we'd have to judge each situation on a case by case basis with no bias going in, to find out what will cause no harm to the race as a whole in the long or short run. And, well, we're never going to be able to get to that point. Which leaves us with only blanket solutions, which ARE easy, but are not individually fair and may not even be reasonable or necessary for many people

I'd rather hangout with esoteric Hermetic Homosexual Alt-Right anime-pedos then you tbh

stopped reading right there. Go back to wherever the fuck you came from.

what's wrong with agreeing to live in a degenerate society. You use public resources, then agree to some basic rules of non-degeneracy or gtfo.

*non-degenerate

Hell, we're judging you NOW, Clem.

Nothing.

Islam

Incest

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And reported for not even trying.

Thanks for reaffirming how disgusting modern society’s interpretation of attractiveness has become, simply in its own linguistics.

Might just be me but while I'm opposed to heterosexual incest between adults I think its less degenerate than faggotry. I mean even in the bible there was incest between Lot and his daughters.

slightly off topic but:

This is the one thing I dislike about how Holla Forums has changed over the years. Way back in the day before 4/pol/ got cucked, when the best shills could come up with was spamming nigger dicks on the board, you'd get thoughts/ideas/views from all across the board and debate would go round and round until somewhere we all ended up with at least a slightly better understanding or view, or more likely than not simply a better way of arguing our points and countering other arguments against our point

Now?.. theres just to much "heres the answer, its easy, if you dont agree then gtfo" going around. Its to.. final, for so many posters, which creates stagnation and ultimately decay due to lack of exercising the power to intellectual or philosophical discourse.

In theory we already do this actually. I mean, if you use public resources (welfare) you already (supposedly) agree to certain terms outlined in public law. There just arent laws covering everything we'd like. There are, however, laws covering incest in (as far as I know) every state, hell even commiefornias laws are apparently worded very much the same as Idaho of all places, the only difference is the severity of the punishment, Idaho can imprison you for life by law, commiefornia is only a few years but also a huge fine

And what's the problem with that? Oh no, I hate murderers and think they should be hung. Guess I'm a X-cidalphobe.

On that topic I'd ask people who believe in Adam and Eve and their first batch of children; who did Adam and Eve's children breed with? Oh yea, each other. The faithful are so against it and yet the origins of the (christian) world are based on it.

Then you’re a retard.
CONGRATULATIONS, YOU’RE A KIKE SHILL AND YOU WILL BE KILLED WHEN THEY ARE. >My problem with fags is largely that they force their shit on everyone else
Not the GUARANTEED medical costs incurred to everyone else? Not the child rape that they ALL do as a matter of course? Not the fact that it’s 100% unnatural? Blow your fucking brains out.
Yes. Not even in question.
Medical costs, destruction of societal productivity, destruction of the gene pool. Fucking kill yourself.
That’s exactly what is going to happen.
1. It is not a thing on its own. 50,000 YEARS OF HUMAN CIVILIZATION AND PROTO-CIVILIZATION HAVE SHOWN THIS. Even when Toba exploded and kicked us down to 10,000 people total, WE STILL DIDN’T FUCK OUR PARENTS OR SIBLINGS BECAUSE EVEN BACK THEN WE FUCKING KNEW WHAT IT DID.
Please leave and/or kill yourself.
Having AoC earlier than physical maturity is mental illness, but the fact that AoC is later than it in some places is irrelevant.
KILL YOURSELF, YOU FUCKING LIBERTARIAN. YOU AND YOUR KIND ARE LITERALLY THE REASON THE KIKES HAVE BEEN ABLE TO TAKE CHARGE.

The problem with that is you’re mixing and matching things from before and after the Fall of Man. Adam and Eve were the genetic paragons of humanity. They can’t be used as an example of events millennia later, post-fall.

You're ignorant of the bible it seems. Adam and Eve were obviously not the only people God created as Cain went to the people of Nod to find his wife.

That reminds me. I'll also make sure my Mrs doesn't get persuaded by a snake to eat an apple.

There was some kind of translation problem or something.
Adam and Eve's kids went over to the town of Nod (which was already populated for some reason) to take wives like

said.

Great arguments, you're surely proved your point beyond a shadow of a doubt, there can be no question you are the superior philosopher

And reported. Thanks for outing yourself. You have no refutation to the substance of my post.

That will sure show him!

OK then.

Most christians I've met actually tell you it's a fact. Scold your own that are stupid then.

And reported, yourself. You: have no business being here.

You have been silenced! Stalin would be proud. We must silence all dissenting opinions!

t. typical Holla Forumsack faggot(">muh opinions" shill)

'kay. It's like you don't even know God amends the Law several times in the Bible in response to how humans develop after the Fall.

There's literally no reason to ban incest within the liberal intellectual framework

Sex is a consensual act involving one or more person It's not the government or society's place to label anything that fulfills these criteria as either "acceptable" or "unacceptable." Therefore, there is no reason to outlaw or stigmatize consensual incest.

One might argue that the offspring of incest are prone to disease but
(1) there is no longer any inherent connection between sex and having children. Also, (most) homosexual relationships have no chance of producing offspring.
(2) it is not the government's place to bar anybody from having children on the basis of propensity for disease or any other factor since eugenics has been thoroughly discredited :^)

this is literally what they believe

And reported.

Reported for libertarian.

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Best of luck with those captchas

Really women over the age of thirty should be prohibited from having children. There's a higher likelihood of birth defects from eggs that are that old than there is of birth defects from first cousins reproducing.

Good job, you are doing God's work! No one must ever speak out against the blatant left leaning authoritarian rhetoric on 8/pol/.

Again with this doomsaying? Until I see reports of pedophilia removed from the DSM and adult/child sexual relationships getting promoted in movies and such, you're full of shit. That being said, I only recall Pizzagate getting slammed for being a conspiracy theory gone mad. I doubt anyone's stupid enough to call it pedophobic.

And reported.

Yep, read it. You’re mentally defective.

You have anything to back that up

Cute.

Yep.

Guess you just don't feel like sharing then?

Nope, shared.

Aren't these the same people who spent election night crying about how those evil "cousinfuckers" won?

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Are you sure they are not just meming on the guy? Because they see him with a camera and they know he's going to ask some stupid youtube question?

with what do you take issue exactly? again NB: my comment was an analysis of the modern liberal mindset, not my own opinion

Within the modern liberal “intellectual” framework, there is no reason to bother delineating anything nor justifying any action, because EVERY action can be justified circumstantially. Your problem in taking this down to a matter of logic to try to understand them is that they don’t operate with logic at all.

You didnt make any fucking points I didnt already discuss, here lets green text your lines

The above lines add literally NOTHING of value, they are you throwing a temper tantrum and "reeee"ing all over yourself. And they make up the bulk of your post. Even the lines below which contain an ATTEMPT to an argument, you STILL lace it with tantrums and reee'ing cries of "JUST FUCKING KILL YOURSELF I HATE YOU WWWAAAAAHHH" tripe

But lets take each of the next attempts of yours in turn

I already addressed this in my post, if you werent so busy shitting yourself in impotent rage you'd have realized this. My point was that IF such things could be addressed, controlled, and countered, THEN what is the reason against it? "its unnatural" isnt really an argument considering all the other shit we do in our day to day lives that is "unnatural." "Unnatural" isnt an argument against anything, its 17th century christian theology level witch burning shit.

Again, addressed the first part. The second one you've made ZERO case for why this would be a point, what do you think everyone is just going to devolve into gay family orgies? And the last actual ATTEMPT at a point, again has already been addressed if incest couples closer than first cousins were prohibited from breeding with each other (again, going back to studies that show there isnt a serious increase in gene pool problems as long as its no closer than first cousins, and would take a few generations of large scale first cousin incest before it WOULD become a problem, which incest and other things are NEVER going to be more than a fringe sect of the population).

You literally give no reason it doesnt happen on its own, when it has in fact happened and there are examples throughout human history, even long before the cultural marxists were even a wet dream of the sparkle in the eye of the dad of fucking marx himself.

And actually, no, scientifically for them there was no theory or reason why incest wouldnt happen at those points in human history. There IS the psychological THEORY at THIS point in history that our minds develop in such a way as to cause us to view sexual relations with those closest to us as bad, because it hardwires us as "family," but theres not some chemical and physical response thats innate where you can just fucking smell who is your family or who isnt and tells you not to fuck them, which is all proto or even ancient civilizations would have had to go on. Which means, no those people DIDNT "know" anything, at BEST they had a psychological drive that directed them to avoid such things, but the theory doesnt actually involve blood in any way, it involves "FAMILY" ie: those closest to you who grow up as sisters/brothers/parents/children, which is why even children adopted at early ages largely never have sexual attraction/thoughts about non-blood adopted family members.

You havent actually proven any point or countered any point I made. What the fuck was there even worth responding to? Nothing. I gave you THIS much just to show the fact you provided nothing of merit TO respond to, ie: im not responding to the POINTS you "made" because you didnt make any intelligent or useful points or counters, I'm responding to YOU because you are a fucking moron whose idea of debate is flinging shit and piss everywhere

Now, go on to tell me some more how I'm a shill and a detriment to this board while you scream and ree all over the place

Yup. Everyone they hate is stupid white inbred uneducated men. But its wrong to hate or judge people for their race, sex, sexual preferences, or education level.

As always their little utopian "everyone is equal, everyone is the same, celebrate diversity" drivel only extends to those who agree with them without question and who support their agendas.

if nothing else, understanding their reasoning can help diffuse "muh slippery slope fallacy" counterarguments.

Still not sure how they're gonna work pedoshit into their worldview, since children can't legally consent. If they can consent to having sex, can they get married? sign a binding contract? vote? be drafted? work full-time?

Is this some degenerate competition?

It's pretty obvious the level of /a/ degeneracy sky rocketed the past months. If the old fags on this board don't see this, then this board is lost.

Except all those people were clearly against the idea. That's the most disturbing part to me. A lot of SJWs don't even agree with the politics they support but they support them anyway because they're terrified of being seen as not progressive enough by their peers. It's like a massive cult.

I wish the interviewer would have asked more questions about the kids. He should have asked them how they would have felt if the hypothetical couple adopted a pair of siblings and then encouraged them to fuck each other. Then point out that gays are adopting children and encouraging them to be gay.

Yeah, I was also thinking about. These people are such insane hypocrites.

Saw this last night. I was laughing my socks off. It's true that they're all merely virtue signalling and are too afraid to be judgmental.

/a/ degenerates are not worth noting.
They feed on attention like cockroaches, or why do you think they avatarfag on an anonymous imageboard ?

Just hide and ignore.