Show me one place where leftism socialism works

Show me one place where leftism socialism works.

Forgot your shitposting flag.

All economic systems shall struggle to work while being stifled by the previous, as can be seen by the struggle it took for capitalism to take hold.

Really nigger?

Its kind of funny when people talk shit about socialist/state capitalist countries by posting random out of context pictures of their poverty.

Most of these countries started out great. Hell the soviet union didn't have it's famous food lines until the 80's. But economic downturn is a thing, especially when most of the world tries to enforce trade embargos on these countries or in the case Venezuela, they just gte fucked up by the global market.

Meanwhile western countries involve themselves in a complex worldwide market scheme that will fuck over the little guys ar the bottom harder and harder just to grow their middle class. All sweatshops are due to capitalism but because they aren't in hamburger land it doesn't count as capitalistic. All pictures of the homeless are taken "our of context" or "during a recession" so they don't count for some reason.

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now go fuck yourself classcuck

define "works".

Haha THIS

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Yes nigger it took hundreds of years for capitalism to become the whole worlds system

Obligatory

socialism has two requirements, broadly speaking:
1 worker control
this is generally thought of as direct self management by workers. cooperatives, although unable to expand rapidly because they have no access to capital investment, actually run more efficiently, are more productive, and last longer than top-down style businesses. I'll let another user help with the source for that claim, as it has been posted here multiple times, but I don't have it atm. In many coops, workers elect the CEO like a board of directors does. workers grade the performance of bosses, and provide upward information flows, that capitalist enterprises often lack and suffer from. Workers have a vested interest in the success of the business, in the case of a cooperative on a market. humans performing complex and creative work (as opposed to simple repetitive work) are shown to perform worse when given monetary incentive for high performance. This opens up the space for cooperatives where people all have equal pay (once you get to a certain level of productivity, as studies show motivation declines after the 70,000 dollar mark). If this is possible, than cooperatives can form networks of mutual aide, providing a set of services available to each member of the coop. This opens the space for part 2

2 production for use
producing goods to sell on a market IS NOT SOCIALISM
when the state guarantees a service like healthcare, transport, or energy, this is socialism. it's production for use for the community. when the state produces goods to sell them for profit and reinvestment in production, this is still capitalism, also called state capitalism. production for use can be from the state, with remunerated labor or unremunerated labor. communities can also produce for themselves without the state, and individuals can produce for everyone without the state aka open-source software.

now give me some examples of countries with both worker control and production for use. Production for use by democratic (indirect democracy, gross) countries counts imo, but there are plenty of examples of well functioning (often better than private counterparts) national energy and national health services.

Show me one where capitalism works and one where socialism was left by capitalism to work.

Capitalism doesn't work and it needs to not let anything else work or the people will see the king is naked.

Show me one place where capitalism works without needing massive government interventions to keep it from falling apart.

That darn socialism just ruins everything

That stupid picture of Yeltsin at a American grocery store. First Yetsin was a massive counter-revolutionary faggot even in 1989 when he took the trip. Next the eastern bloc had modern shops and goods for decades by that point, there were shortages in 1989 but that was because of Gorbachev's economic reforms and mismanagement prior.

That's because the Soviets diverted so much wealth into East Germany.

The means to your mom are in the hands of the proletariat and both sides are happy with it.

It was not just GDR shops, shops throughout Eastern Europe modernized and brought modern commodities to the east just not at the level of the west.

But wouldn't shortages create demand, thus making it profitable to produce those goods that are needed?

I hate to go all muh invisible hand here but if enough wealth is made available to enough people then the market actually becomes a decent method of allocating goods and services.

The soviet market didn't run on market signals, it was a top down system where Gosplan dictated production and distribution. The reforms decoupled Gosbank from Gosplan that meant producers had no incentive to meet domestic demand.

As someone who actually has some experience working in supermarkets, these "incriminating" photos always irritate me. Sure, in our glorious first-world capitalist stores we have shelves upon shelves of food. Do you know how much of that shit gets thrown out? An absolutely unbelievable amount of that stuff is there for the express purpose of looking good. It's all about the spectacle. Most people can't afford all that shit, and the stuff that doesn't get bought just gets tossed in the back dumpster. Food on the shelves ain't worth shit if it doesn't make it to the people who need to eat it.

talking about what "works" or not is always a loaded question when it's asked by somebody to another person with a fundamentally different idea of what "working" is

i don't think anybody would try to argue that capitalism doesn't work by its own standards (at least for now)