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What kind of new axes does this need?
What kind of questions should there be in the quiz?
How should the results be represented?

A better question is: why another political compass?

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Maybe people who are new to leftism might find it useful

Pro/Anti-stats is a false dichtonomy. Every communist's goal is the abolition of the state in one way or the other.

Not tankiddies'

Not everybody here is a communist.

This.
Which might've known if we had a fucking lefty compass

I think a chart like that is only good for representing two axes, and politics cover more than that. Personally I'd go for something more like pic rel8d. It shows what actable things people would do if they were in charge, instead of 'hay you like kittens and think you have a right to self-defense you're obviously a gommunisd/poopsoc/social democrat/anarkiddie/ayncrap and so is the guy who made the test fancy that,' which is pretty much the same sort of thing people say to me in bars about their pet ideology, or the 'if you believe X, you're a feminist' maymay. It displays the relevant info and lets the observer draw their own conclusion.

If I'm interpreting things correctly, that would already assume that politics is simply that which the government does - which is not common ground by any means

How's that industry thing coming along without any craftsmen?

Since when did we allow liberalism?


Even le tankie bogeyman wants to achieve communism.

What about this concept?

A political cube?

(Works better if you actually make a rotatable 3d cube, rather than a 2d representation)

Can you explain that in more detail

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OP doesn't even understand what a state is and is a wannabe marxist

fuck off

You basically get every socialist ideology, make a graph for the transition of the means of production to more communist-likeness vs time, and one for transition of governmental structure to more communist-likeness over time.

Once you have these graphs, put the sides with time next to each other and fold it into a cube, then draw a 3d line inside the cube that shows the transition in these two aspects over time.

that sounds overly complicated

It doesn't have to all be about governance, you could use a chart like that to represent other things. I'm just using that chart as an example of what I'd like to see instead of a 2-axis chart that reduces politics to DnD alignment.


Not my game, m8. I image searched 'vicky2 reforms,' got that, clicked through pukebucket's rentseeking ad cancer, saved it and posted it. Don't worry, I know free people a best, have been kicking ass with Japan in EU3 Steppe Wolf. Every bamp I've gotten toward Free Subjects has been an improvement (except dat stability cost). It was really fun not making the same mistakes as the crowned heads of Europe, and giving the peasants the shit they wanted when they assembled outside my palace.

This is a simpler way of doing what I think you were going for

What should this even mean?

Overal easy representation of the stages of transitioning away from capitalism towards communism.

isn't jefferson's method another proportional system?

It doesn't make much sense.

As time goes on, MoP become Communist faster, then the Government does?

It was probably a mockup.

Yeah. Re-read the thread.

And this should not be hideously oversimplified?

Its more accurate than the compass.

I don't even know what should "means of productions" mean.

natural rights - nihilism

Are those really opposites?

The way I see it, (0,0) on the red line represents private ownership and on the blue line represents a strong, hierarchical state. A strong state exists but becomes progressively more democratic until the mode of production is fully communist, (red line reaches the top) at which point it withers away (blue line reaches the top)

No? The belief in humans (or animals) having certain inalienable rights, and the belief that there are no objectively moral actions. They are at least mutually exclusive?

Putting maybe Proudhon in the natural rights end, (property is theft, people have the right to the product of their labor) along with most human and animal rights groups.

Stirner in the Nihilistic end, rejecting all universal morals. Transhumanists and some tankies would probably belong here.

Marx and utilitarians maybe in the middle? Rejecting natural rights, but trying to use reason to find some type of objectively moral or preferable behavior.