I can understand a complex system like society even though I never got past basic arithmetic in highschool

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Then explain it.

Spoken like a true brianlet.

Those who study natural sciences are fine, but those in engineering just need to be shot once the revolution comes.

There's a reason why believing systems justwork™ is a bad idea. It doesn't have to do with marketing, it has to do with chaotic and unstable systems.

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Nigger what.

I mean Im all for STEM but what you said, OP, is just retarded.

I literally quit a humanities degree because it was too easy and felt no challenges, I had perfect grades, then went into Biochem and got fucked in the ass, but now I am holding my ground

It`s not like we are going to kill all of intelligentsia, just the 90% who are clearly counter-revolutionary.

Brainlet detected

Math opens your mind, allows you to see new relationships, allows you to more accurately calculate the relevance of each of the social actors

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Well I'm a STEM fag and I'm very much a socialist. So was Einstein. So was Curie. So is Hawking.

Please go back to Holla Forums.

I have a degree in mathematics.
Checkmate, Atheists.

Who the fuck implied that STEM = right wing?

All the great geniuses of STEM were left wing.

Anyone can study anything in their spare time, not just humanities. And this has nothing to do with how hard something is, its about how relevant it is to understanding society.

The point OP is trying to make is that while STEM students are usually interested in SO-HIS in their free time – SO-HIS students are proud of their ignorance of anything STEM

There was a study, and while 0% of Humanities students dedicated their free time to learning mathematics, around 40% of STEM students dedicated their free time to reading about history, philosophy, etc.

And he is talking out of his ass

I literally fucked your moms in the ass last night

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What books should I read to learn calculus on my own?

I was imidiately won by your unrefutable arguments that are backed by so many studies.

Negro don't pull that shit on me I study maths, you can't calculate shit if you can't define the world in numbers

I'm sure there was, and I'm sure that very same study contained information about how a knowledge of maths and science meant one made one knowledgeable about society.

[citation needed]
Most decent psychology degrees usually have some pretty indepth neurology courses.

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You realize this is like asking "how can you possibly claim to be good at cooking if you can't even play guitar?"

Complete and total nonsense.

Math underlies everything. Specially complex systems like societies.

ITT: humanities kiddies feel threatened by the mere mention of the word "mathematics" and assume all the mathematicians and engineers are evil right wingers

only social democrats understand math. all other socialist are illiterate, just like karl marx was. They seek extreme leftism because they are degenerative in their intellect.

If it just were that, you just seem like elitist prick who is just full of pure,fatalistic ideology.

Well go to the Nobel prize thingy and get your, because no economist at this moment is able to accurately model the economy. Modern "economics" is basically quackery to support the status quo.

Maybe at some conceptual level, but not in a way that's actually meaningful in the real world.

Being good at calculus doesn't mean you understand political economy.

I agree. Anyone that looks at history with the lenses of statistics will realize this.

If you look at history as a fable, you will fall for the extremes.

Most modern economists lean to the left.

Because I wanna study music instead.

Calculus isn't real math, it's just the tools you use to learn real math.

That's great, fam, but that still doesn't mean you understand political economy.

Marx actually wrote essays on calculus towards the end of his life. Have fun being a social dem cuck.

No, but real math is a great tool to understand politics, history and the economy. Math is like a lantern, do you want to explore the cave with or without it?

I am not even a STEMfag, but learning on my own about non-linear transformations and signal analysis opened my mind, it's perfectly applicable to the humanities, and it will most certainly make you a leftist if you didn't know where to stand.

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Also enjoy philosophy of science and physics but there is only so much time.

Most people know fuck all about math and especially logic witch they use interchangeablly with "reason".

Yes. Stop reading Holla Forums and watching Fox News.

But it isn't required. There are plenty of great philosopher who had a profound effect on our worldview who didn't use math as a primary tool.

The question is dumb, that's the point.

Yeah.

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americans fuck off.

After the repeated failures of right wing economics, you would be hard-pressed to find a sincere economist that doesn't lean left

Being a keynesian economist is not left wing, its status quo in europe.

welp

You're kidding right? Most economists today still spout muh privatize for effectivity.

also this

Speak for yourself. I'm great at math. What do you think all stemfags are lolbert retards?

Probably silicon valley start up culture.

market economics are usually not leftist.
The only exception is market socialists, but fuck those guys, everyone knows they are just reactionaries that want to seem edgy or fashionable by pretending to be pro-worker

Must be. Those guys are really ruining the st filed. I feel like programming and computer science classes are starting to get filled with the same irredeemable class cucks that use to be business majors a few years ago.

Considering that neo-classical economics now is the most mathematized and the most useless out of all political economy paradigms, I doubt that.

Yes, CS and engineering is full of muh 90k starting fags. Math and the sciences are a lot less class cucked.

Don't you dare insult papa Wolff you dipshit :'(

Can't fucking stand startup culture tbh, even though I study CS. Glad it doesnt really exist in europe that much.

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Why? Because they use one variable integrals? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Yeah it's incredibly annoying because I love that computer shit. A major reason why I'm a communist is I hate what neoliberalism has done to technology.

You're lucky that shit is utterly repulsive. Does Europe have a thriving internet sector?

Not really. The neoclassical models are notoriously simplistic and idealistic. Most if the time when the factors are taken into account an anti-free market stance is most supported. It's deliberate cherry-picking by the establishment. I

But I really just want to make video games and be payed to tell people my opinions on politics

>>>Holla Forums

Lol how can you claim to understand economics if you haven't studied 12th century korean performing arts?

Brainlet

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throwing numbers around like magic scriptures to impress normalfags.=/= mathematized

Low energy shilling is low energy

Not really in the sense you see in the usa, its more of a traditional industry with normal offices. There are of course startups, but not a terrible lot. The ones that do exist are run as normal companies, mostly without investment from anything else but banks.

Oh hell naw I didn't try to imply that he was a market socialist, but he supports market socialism as a transitional strategy, as seen in:

>reddit.com/r/Market_Socialism/comments/4792x1/in_rsocialism_ama_richard_wolff_backs/

Marx approached things as mathematically as humanly possible given the time he wrote capital. I don't know if you're a troll or just a literal retard, but good job, here's your (you)

lol

God you're lucky. Venture capitalist are the biggest cancer of modern day capitalism. It's really putting a damper on technological progress.

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Show me some Marxist formulas

you = retarded
t. Marx

lel

That's an equation, brainlet

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I'm just trying to liven up the conversation lol pls no bully.

Seriously though, I've once been to a lecture where a Marxist economist used quite a lot of formulas while referencing Marx, but my memory is hazy and I don't remember if they're a direct formulation of his text or written by him exactly

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(i) On empirical basis Prof. Kaldor has concluded that in case of long run the proportion of wages to national income has remained constant in rich countries. Again, so many socialist countries which followed Marxian philosophy failed to remove poverty. The labor residing in socialist and communist countries were always found dreaming for the life standard enjoyed by their western counter-parts. Such all led to a reaction against socialism in Russia which culminated in disintegration of Russian Federation. The prosperity enjoyed by laboring class in US, Japan and European countries contradict Marxian law of increasing pauperization. However, Marxian philosophy of concentration of capital in few hands is available in case of both rich and poor countries.

(ii) According to Prof. Fellner in case of rich countries the ratio of capital to output has increased. This has not only promoted capital accumulation but the real wages of the labor have also gone up. Such all is against Marxian model.

(iii) Mrs. Robinson also rejects the Marxian law of declining of rate of profit. She says that the technical progress can be capital saving which would increase the productivity of labor. As a result, the rate of profit will increase, rather decreasing.

(iv) Marx failed to entertain that capitalism would be protected by democracy. It is the democracy which promoted social security, anti-monopoly laws and mixed economies. Such all contradicted Marxian philosophy of 'Self-Demise' of capitalism.

(v) According to Sehumpeter Marx model is based upon: (a) labor theory of value, (b) a modified version of subsistence wage theory. Both these are the instruments of constant situation. Thus, following Sehumpeter Marx model has been presented under constant circumstances. It fails to treat the matters dynamically.

(vi) According to Marx there exists a correlation between the growth of the average firm and increase in the degree of concentration. But this logic does not look appropriate. But, as far as unemployment is concerned it has increased both in UDCs and in DCs.

Marx is a meme. Any educated adult knows it.

Explain your point.

His attempt to describe market economies was an abject failure. So was his attempt to describe democracy. His proposed road to communism was a failure too.

NICE THREAD NIGGERS

Every humanities student ever

I can't do anything above addition in my head, and I've yet to use anything beyond elementary algebra in my adult life, but I'm in law school so who cares?

wew lad

I do know math OP, it's called being an econ major. But I bet you didn't consider that because >muh natural sciences muhfuuggaaa

I love these regurgitated 20th Century memes, acting as though the 21st Century and it's massive market crash, and the subsequent policies of neoliberal austerity never happened.

Also,
Demonstrably untrue.

Science and math teach you science and math, they do not provide a valuable insight to the world of subjectivity, philosophy and politics. Nor are they supposed to. The most math will get you is economics.