>It was pretty clear to retailers there that Marvel are committed to these characters, their diversity, and that they were here to stay.
>It was pretty clear to retailers there that Marvel are committed to these characters, their diversity, and that they were here to stay.
Marvel confirmed dead.
Being Peter Parker is suffering.
That's pretty much what defines his character
Yeah, but in what capacity?
I have a feeling this is just PR bullshit to keep Twitter placated so they don't burn down Marvel HQ when they bring back the old characters.
I'd rather they keep the stupid diverse characters around, and let them suffocate and die slowly under their own dwindling sales to showcase how little anyone cares about them, rather than forcibly kills them all off. But if they're actually going to keep trying to shove them in they can get fucked.
Needing to separate brands under different names is sign of desperate delay.
We'll see what happens. Marvel's going to have to significantly improve, and stay improved for some time, before I'll consider supporting them again.
One day I hope a third one fucks over the big two and it will be unapologetically unpozzed as possible.
It sounds to me that they are giving up on Tumblr.
Legacy is going back to basics without this shit, or at least it sounds like it. They'll continue to have obnoxious diversity characters, but let's be real here. They've been slowly getting cancelled for some time now. I imagine that they're just slowly going to phase them out and refuse to create new characters.
Marvel has its work cut out for them, though. They're going to have to try awful damn hard to get their old fanbase back after all the shit that was pulled.
At this point they could literally PAY ME and I still wouldn't look at their shit. They are dead to me.
"Honey, we have to talk.
Business is kinda bad right now. I've done everything to keep this relationship afloat.
You're not keeping up your end of the deal. If you're not putting your money where your mouth is, I'm going to back."
Marvel is giving them a passive aggressive warning: Bitches better have my money or the SJW shit goes down the shitter.
I called this in the last thread.
They'll have two mini-companies, one selling things that sell and one selling virtue signalling shit.
As soon as the contracts for virtue signalling writers are up, they'll show them the door and go back to making shit comics, but the kind of shit I'd expect them to make, not political nonsense.
Yeah that's bullshit. Marvel is too far gone and made out of people too stubborn to admit they're wrong. They're being passive aggressive alright. But towards the people not buying their shit. Not towards the SJWs themselves.
Last I heard, 140 digital characters isn't flammable. Jesus Christ, I wish Twitter didn't have the influence it does.
Why ban phones and press anyway?
And this sounds like bullshit, they just don't know what to do, they can't just openly go back to old stories, they can't admit the new stories with the new characters are awful, they can't decide how to make new characters look good. It is a mess.
>this is not a crossover, not an event, not a mini-series, more of a rebranding.
Boy that's a brilliant fucking way to drive up sales! "we know these books are shit and no one's buying them, but we're not changing a damned thing!!"
I FUCKING TOLD YOU THEY WEREN'T GOING TO CHANGE
I TOLD YOU THAT THEY DIDN'T LEARN A DAMNED THING
THERE'S WAS NEVER A HOPE FOR COURSE CORRECTION, ONLY AN ATTEMPT AT APPEASEMENT
LET. MARVEL. BURN.
Fill n the blanks, guys.
Oh sod off, Marvel. Can you at least have Peter Parker be happy just this once? It's bad enough you took his wife away from him and now his company? I wanted to say "then you took his life" but you just did kill Parker off (Ultimate Parker…and that brief stint in the land of the dead in Spider-Man/Deadpool)
Making Peter have a shitty life works so well for them, since people who like Peter will keep reading and complaining aka drumming up awareness of the new issues.
They don't care if you don't like it, but Spider-Man consistently sells, especially where they fuck him over.
They had that. Image. They didn't kill the Big Two's market share because, although they were unpozzed, their books were shit for different reasons.
It was pretty obvious this was the tack they're taking. They're not sorry for their virtue signalling bullshit, they're sorry that no one bought it.
Neither are that different when you think about it. Both companies aren't learning very much in the grand scheme. DC has just hit it off really really well with very few books mostly relating to Superman. Everything else ranges from okay to bad. Not Marvel bad all the time but bad all the same. Marvel is clearly not learning anything and will continue throwing themselves at the wall hoping they stick without really changing their tactics.
DC's learned enough to hire back some of their top tier talent.
No company man with a brain is going to publicly state that they're doubling back on their strategy for the last few years or admit that it was flawed in any way. This is just them trying to correct course while passing it off as part of the plan.
To be fair, turning Peter into Tony Stark is a narrative dead-end, especially when the only reason he has said company is because Doc Ock hijacked his body and made him do crazy shit.
It's a start but they're still making a lot of same mistakes that plagued the company before. We'll see how they keep going but I don't have faith in either of the big two anymore.
You mean all the SJW faggots at Marvel through a big hissy fit because that's all they know and demanded to keep their token characters. Great more shit writing and shit characters. I'm fucking done with comics.
The fucking bitch isn't even Thor. That's the fucking god's name.
So more creatively bankrupt stories?
I'm actually glad they're getting rid of that crap. Peter Parker does not fit the rich industrialist archetype at all, especially when him getting the company wasn't even deliberate doing on his part, but Otto's.
Basically they will keep Whor and Iron Cumdumpster and sabotage their currently best selling series.
but it was shit, who'd want this?
thor vs hulk was a lot better, give me more of that
Aren't the closest competitors to the two, Image and Darkhorse? I thought DC was losing ground to one of them a year or so ago.
Yes. Surely this is what was going to make me buy Marvel again!
Said nobody ever.
Actually, Pete starting a company (or at least a lab) would've made sense for him. He got the technological know how, he's buddies with Stark (hell, Parker Industries/Parker Labs could've been a Stark subsidiary)..hell, him starting a company was even suggested to him way back in Avengers Academy. Not too far fetched, if you ask me. Dude's getting on, he ain't going to be part-time photographer for the Bugle forever and being a teacher is a waste of his scientific talents. All I'm saying is..let Pete be happy for once, Marvel. At least let him have his family back if you wanted to screw Pete over. Hell, Spider-Man/Deadpool was going towards the direction of Deadpool helping Spidey out to undo One More Day.
I'm more in favour of giving him his fucking wife back, especially since they shouldn't have taken her away to begin with, than having him rich enough to own a company/lab. It goes against the whole point Spider-Man
He taught to help local children, not for the money or the science
So if Marvel Legacy is their next step, what is Marvel Generations (that pic with all the old characters and their new, cancerous counterparts - and Danvers is on it twice) supposed to be?
Marvel Legacy is the name of their relaunch, their Rebirth.
Marvel Generations will be either the same of the one-shot, like DC Universe Rebirth #1, or it will be some stupid "look how great all versions of each character is ps buy" promotion.
Actually being a teacher was absolutely fitting for the kind of character Peter is. Well, either that or becoming an actual scientist, researching the latest breakthroughs and such. Being Tony Stark or Bruce Wayne is not, and I doubt it'd make him happy in the long term as opposed to simple being a family man.
Twittards don't buy comics though
…and the retailers in that meeting went right back and cut down thier Marvel order even further, then considered if they had space to sell Games Workshop stuff… which, from knowledge gained through my peripheral /tg/ lurking, really fucking says something.
it's his own fault really
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I mean it hasn't been for around a decade, but his life is supposed to be suffering. When they made him into Stark-lite he was ruined.
A clever writer can still make him suffer. I mean, if he goes through half of what Tony's been through over the years…
Making him Tony is still dumb. We already have Tony. Pretty much all areas of plot as far as that character is concerned has already been explored
Not in the slightest.
We know.
Yeah, until the next generation gets in there and starts flipping tables. It took twenty years to undo a lot of John Byrne's bullshit with Superman, but they managed to fix him…until DC shat the bed with New52.
Shpider-Drunk!
Shpider-Drunk!
Doesh whatever a shpider thunk!
What did John Byrne do with Superman that was so bad?
I can imagine Parker running a scientific company/lab, but it'd have to be a scientific version of Nelson and Murdock. Like he makes a killing off of patents, but blows all his money making custom pneumatic legbraces for the local old people or creating dialysis machines for poor parents who's kids are sick.
I'd like to see the Enterprising Spider-Man. One who uses his reputation to attract investors so he can parlay that into investments and grants to research technology that actually protects and helps people in the Marvel Universe. Reed Richards, Tony Stark, and Hank Pym all have the money and the talent to cure every disease, end world hunger, and socially engineer a perfect society, but they never do, because they are cunts. Peter Parker would do it if he could, but he's too poor and juggling too many life responsibilities to make it a reality.
Explain.
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And that one idea is more heart breaking and emotionally resonating than anything published in Moongirl or Champions or America or Squirrel Girl or Hellcat.
If only Marvel would hire me
I'm reminded of that one theoretical comic some Holla Forums user came up with where Spider-Man has to deal with a rape accusation engineered by the Purple Man. Are you that user?
and now we watch as the Jews ruin their creations on the orders of their rabbi
No, but I am the user that keeps suggesting a comic about lawyers trying cases in the wake of superheroes showing up.
You know he's an sjw, right?
It's not the same, but I do remember seeing a comic about people serving subpoenas to super heroes.
As we've learned in the past month, Twitter does buy comics. They just don't buy enough comics.
The one comic I remember is in Astro City where some dude wins a mob boss's murder case by saying the prosecutor had a burden of proof to prove the defendant wasn't a clone/evil twin/alien replacement, and it talks about the legal fallout from that case.
The commitment is still keeping the diversity characters.
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I, personally, am ecstatic that they're doubling down, again. I want Kate Leth, Erica Henderson, and all the other SJW filth to be synonymous with "company destroying." I want Marvel's death to follow them around forever.
Shit. Wrong one. Hold on.
There's an issue (or a few) of Astro City that covers someone using the existence of superheroes and supershit to get a mob boss' son off the hook for murder.
And then a mortal lawyer helping a magical superhero win a court case against extra-dimensional wizards by.. well, it's spoilers.
what the fuck is goin on in these pages, it looks like the writing is as bad as angst spidey in the spiderman 2 movie
We seem to be one & the same.
Ess Jay Dubs get their scans off tumblr. I can't even be assed to look at scans on the chans.
I'm not sure how Marvel can fix this mess.
That Astro City story was a good arc.
Events over the past few years have made me unironically want a Death Note. I hate feeling like such an edgelord.
I know exactly how you feel
They just need to round that out by making it canon that Uncle Ben molested Peter when he was a kid and we can officially throw marvel in a fucking ditch.
I told you shits that comics are dead.
Still surprises me that people remember him.
Moon Knight's character got ruined fast, and now normalfags only think of him as Marvel's edgier Batman.
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it's from the spider island tie-in few years back , where everyone and their mother had spider powers this particular one is actually supposed to be bad
Did they have him do a couple comics with Deadpool or something?
The only difference is that those characters were good. Most of Marvel's new heroes are just short-sighted cash grabs.
He fights Deadpool at least twice in the Bendis run.
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Marvel don't play when it comes to identity theft.
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Is Fate good? It looks like typical 90's Liefeld style character.
This is no Zaku, boy! No Zaku!
It was, in a self-aware way.
In the last issue, he went on a pub crawl with Lobo, and finished up in Warriors, Guy Gardner's bar, where all the DC capes drink. Because everybody is afraid of Lobo, Fate took the opportunity to mouth off and insult every DC hero, and then when Lobo passed out, they kicked the Christ out of him, lol.
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Fuck I miss Starman
But nobody liked the original Kyle Rayner run and dark and edgy Fate reboot? Are you for real?
The original Rayner run was okay, though it went downhill when he moved to New York and was surrounded by identity politics mascots.
Eh? I don't remember those. Then again, it has been a while, and I didn't see things the way I do now.
I'm convinced the only reason characters like Miss Marvel and Spider Gwen are popular is because of the shitty porn and cosplay.
Then again, I was never a fan of Carol to begin with, she was always a shitty written character who's only redeeming quality was her outfit (the black one).
Also serious question, does anybody out there like fem Thor? Because I have yet to see anybody say anything positive about the character. I'm honestly shocked she lasted this long to be honest.
The ol' "New Coke - Coca-Cola Classic" routine apparently
I liked Morrison's Kyle, just not in his own book.
Carol was only good when Claremont was writing her.
In his apartment building, there was a blatantly lesbian couple who weren't really even supporting characters; they just showed up in occasional panels holding each other. Then there was Kyle's landlord, a ridiculous "ethnic New Yorker" type (though a Caucasian one). Finally, Kyle got an art assistant who turned out to be gay, and got gay-bashed, and these were big plot points.
I don't even mind gay characters or whatever, but this was as unsubtle and pandering as it could be.
That's pretty much it. Its just waifufagging at this point.
Aaaaah. Those kinds of archetypes. More proof that the Left enjoys its stereotypes as much as the Right, if not moreso.
You mean you didn't like the Kyle Rayner run
Honestly this. Just stop the bullshit executive meddling and let good writers do what good writers do.
Stop it with the bullshit retard crossover events, let the older characters die, let newer characters in, but don't fucking do the legacy character bullshit. Make actual new super heroes.
Don't they ever get tired of shitting on Peter?
She apparently inspired many cancer survivors or in treatment right now the same way Kamala did for Muslim girls. Jason Aaron was very keen on milking that and use it as shield to deflect criticism, stating that any attack on Whor on top of being misognystic and sexist in nature, its also ableist.
There is also a fair number of normalfags committed to her because of the lack of important female characters in Marvel, so they cling to her not because of anything the character has to offer, but because we need to have powerful female characters. It sounds ridiculous, but its true I've seen this with my own eyes. Keep in mind that Whor is at this moment the best selling Tumblr title that Marvel has with around 45.000 copies sold most recently (and she is still below the real Thor) while all the usual suspects are below the Top 100 in retail sells.
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>Woman who chooses to not get cured of cancer, and is pampered by Norse gods
Why didn't Eddie Brock inspire them when he actually suffered and struggled with cancer and this experience contributed to him turning a new leaf and becoming a good guy? How about Deadpool, or Patsy Walker when she had a cancer scare? Only cancer patients that could be inspired by Whor are vapid assholes who use cancer to get attention.
How can she inspire people with cancer if she hasn't cured it herself!?
They don't actually read comics
This is a very bizarre situation we have here because either they will have to kill her off soon if they are so intent on having cancer destroy her, or they will have to get rid of cancer somehow in order to keep her in, and completely shatter the illusion that this was ver made for cancer patients.
These people are probably not real or that big of an audience to make a difference altogether. Its just a stupid cause authors have jumped on and exploited cancer to make a quick buck.
You can sense a pattern here with Marvel is that they are prioritizing a very small niche audience when they are already inside a niche market. I remember Ms. Marvel's author really made a big deal out of Muslim females being a target audience even though Muslims are less than 1% in US population and that was very important. I suppose the population of people suffering cancer in the US can't be more than one million…
No one even knew this cunt had cancer until they revealed it was Jane Foster, a good chunk into her story. Her title sold better before the reveal. Imagine being this desperate for shit to justify your awful writing.
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Clearly they needed a real-life cause to use as shield against criticism. No matter how level-headed your critique against her a character, who isn't very heroic mind you, more of a bully that gets into fights with others, is extremely formidable in combat to the point she has no weaknesses and manages to come out against enemies way beyond her power level (where have we seen this before?), anything you can say will be dismissed as a petty attack on cancer survivors.
WE
in every Nu Marvel comic for the last 7 years.
She'd make a better one than Scrawny McShorty that is Gal Gadot.
Spoke too soon
WUZ DICK WASHERS
That's exactly it but Kamala had potential if they played her off as a fangirl instead of an obnoxious shitwad super hero that doesn't fangirl and is defined by her sex and religion.
No one, she doesn't even draw the waifu crowds and unless something changed; cancellation numbers should've dealt with her.
Giving him a corporation was their reboot time.
I wonder who they would've gone for in her place.
Alien tech will cure her cancer or being struck by a fuck ton of electricity.
I really need to look up what start the Kangs thing one of these days.
It's just a joke on afrocentrists.
Brother, prepare to be enriched.
I always thought it was someone crying while saying "we wuz kangs n shiet" during the period where the police was getting put down for accidental and reasonable killings.
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I don't know, man. Secret Empire is probably going to rustle their side's jimmies a lot more.
The questions are is this the hammer of Thorr and if the 616 Mjolnirs ability to determine worthiness can be rused by a false personality overlaid over the worthy individual.
They will probably change worthiness as in having a warrior's spirit instead of any sense of morality.
Probably because he's under mind control, and therefore the "real" Cap can still wield it.
maybe nazis are just better than other people?
DC continues to win the comics war just by not being nearly as bad as Marvel.
According to the author of the book. But he's not a reliable source of information, given that he writes for modern Marvel books.
There have already been about a hundred superheroes who've battled cancer. It's far from a new or exciting concept. If anything, it's a cheap tactic to make a character feel sympathetic without actually giving them any meaningful personality traits.
That's basically all Female-Thor is, a Frankenstein monster of things we recognize jammed together to attempt to make us care about something that sucks.
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BRING BACK CAP'S HEADWINGS
I thought they made it out as Mjolnir having a mind of its own.
Can they make Hydra Cap a bigger Gary Stu?
Does that mean the actual entity is missing the top of its head?
>"A great reporter's objective.
acfw
>Cap can almost lift it as a proud American
Nick Spencer is /ourguy/
nevar 5get
Trips
She gave him cancer smh. Her pussy is a hazard.
This is the part that always gets me.
She had the nerve to call his wife a 'jealous girlfriend.'
Why would this guy even bang a cunt like this? Did he have eye cancer, too?
I thought Red Skull had manipulated reality, not mind controlled him.
They've evolved too much to even wash dicks, without blowing them. Best to just put 'em down.
Editorials are not reportage.
I see she's off the heroin and on the cheeseburgers. Or else she's pregnant with Frank Miller's baby, given her fetish.
Why would anyone bang Zoe Quimm? Because they're both willing to do all sorts of nasty, degrading porno shit that most women won't outside of Dubai. They do this, along with the piercings and tats, because they are damaged.
In a perfect world, the wife would have invited her to the funeral, drugged her drink at the reception, and had Kate buried alive with her tumor-riddled lover.
He doesn't have Xaviers brain anymore?
He did.
If that's the case, then Mjolnir literally accepts Nazi ideology as worthy, since Captain is (currently) a Nazi at his very core. Good job Marvel, so progressive!
Now you sparked my curiosity.
I've always made it policy to avoid women with excess tattoos and piercings. Doesn't matter who they are. And from that pic, Zoe Quinn appears to be losing her hair from too many dye jobs.
White people are all secret Nazis. Didn't you know that?
You won't thank me for this knowledge, user unless you hate whores and arabs.
>tagthesponsor.com
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
I have no pity for everyone who spends money on comics. A oven is too good for them.
Why is Deadpool even there?
Why does Moon Girl look like a 40-year-old woman?
Why does Squirrel Girl look like she's wearing a toupee styled after Trump's haircut?
oi
I bought the full color complete edition because I wanted to support the author
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Nigger I…
Survival of the fittest is a joke.
Did Disney have anything to do with this shit? Because I honestly don't think they were nearly this retarded before the acquistion.
Time to invest in lead lined curtains.
Disney rules all of its holdings with an iron fist, no pun. You bet your fat ass they had everything to do with this.
tumblr is already shaking right now
Says a lot about FemThor when you think about it.
I don't know how to feel about this. I'm not a fascist, but I'm genuinely interested in a story focusing on a hero fighting for fascism and order instead of the typical freedom and democracy or whatever. It's fresh but pic related will stop that from ever being real, since even if the character isn't supposed to be good fascists as anything but strawmen villains that get their asses kicked will invoke controversy.
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Way I see it, Marvel's not likely to pull any sort of "fascism is powerful" kinda stuff. They try, and within days antifa will be there to break windows, throw M80s and cry victim over papercuts or some shit.
Same reason why they're pulling this "Diversity is a part of Marvel" bullshit, giving care about the hero's genitals or whatever shit. Moment they pull out from that, braindead SJWs are gonna screech and media is gonna fuck 'em over to make them the new nazi sympathizers.
Calling it now, this was simply put to make controversy, next issue they'll pull some BS excuse on why HYDRA Cap can lift it, while still saying "no,no….nazis are bad! we're with you guys on that!"
I say when Marvel undoubtedly falls, we pool money, buy some of the IPs (Spiderman, Thor, Captain America, etc) and rebuild from the ashes. Let them die with Ironheart and Whor and whoever else they want to shoe-horn. We'll bring back the heroes we love.
Wasn't there some Wonder Woman character called Nubia who was Wonder Woman's black coutnerpart or something?
Did they ever go into her religion? It seemed like the barely did or when they did it was tangential like her brother using Islam as an excuse to be a lazy bum and not get a job.
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Yep, that's the character in question. The same kind of diversity case we see everywhere nowadays. She took Wonder Woman's title and her outfit and everything.
How a black character called something as unoriginal as 'Nubia' isn't considered racist, I don't know.
I think controversy is just counterproductive because of . Marvel has alienated several outlets who would have defended them and they are simultaneously desperate to appease them by shoving the diversity characters as the faces of Legacy.
Well, I can't think of any other reason then for such a pic, unless it's some kind of leak. And if they don't want a controversy, they'd try to immediately diffuse the situation with some kinda BS 'no, that's not REAL Cap/Mjolnir/art/whatever'
Companies need to learn that making a profit and appeasing glorified SJW blogs are mutually exclusive.
Metabee is going to stop Captain Aryan?
You fucking piece of shit, if you're going to post a gif of Marc Anthony and his pussy, post a fucking gif of Marc Anthony and his pussy.
The same reason that X-23 looks like a 40-year-old woman: the artist a shit.
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I like how they have to cut the Spiderman masks too, to remind you one of them's a black kid.
No I meant the: "this is literally fascist propaganda" part in the post I replied to, although it would be more interesting if metabee fixed everything somehow.
I will never not hate Moon Girl's stupid fucking hair.
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Too many big rollers will be going after that if Disney doesn't see the huge money making character not worth keeping.
Muties are going to the Japs with big money on Toei.
Marvel is bringing back the cover corner box. This is the art they're going to use in it.
Marvel doesn't, pic related. All this is a cheap shock tacit. But I find it funny because this one is aimed squarely at the SJW fags. And it's probably because most long time fans don't care about Marvel anymore or see right through this. Just like with the reveal of Hydra Cap. Every comic reader knew it was the cosmic cube without reading the book. This shit is only targeting the normfag, identity politic movie watchers who will REEEEEEE about it on twitter and give Marvel free publicity.
They're also just setting Nazi Cap up to be super powerful so when Nigglet Spidey beats him up he looks better. The whole publishing division is pure SJW trash.
Didn't he backtrack on that statement in recent times?
Didn't they turn the Cosmic Cube into a loli?
How did they get away with this?
This confusion made me kek.
It was a little before Marvel became a crackhead.
He'll never be the hero we got but don't deserve what with his owners keeping him in Japan.
On a side-note, just in case, you didn't need anymore evidence Marvel is a liar. I read X-Men: Gold Issue 2 online just to see if there was any anti-Semitic memes slipped in by Ardian "Kill the Kaffir" Syaf. Despite this book being touted as "We are dropping politics guy srsly" "X-Men will be heroes instead of struggling minorities", two issues in and we stumble on the topic of mutant deportation. Bravo Marvel.
Does that mean we should start referring to them as "mutanx"?
Could've sworn they said they were quitting this shit with everything but the X-Men since they were made for bullshit like this.
Some country collecting all the deported muties and making an army out of all of them isn't a big deal to the Marvel nations anymore?
at least Fate gave Kent and Inza happy ending, and as we all know, in dc couple thats not raped, murdered and put into fridge is a rarity
The thing is that they used this specific book as an example way back when they announced they would drop politics out from Marvel. But I suppose in the ideal scenario, they would contain politics to the X-Men and cut it out with the rest… But of course they won't.
Hi, Gail.