Is this what all those CalArts posters keep complaining about? Is animation in the west becoming too stagnant?

Is this what all those CalArts posters keep complaining about? Is animation in the west becoming too stagnant?

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Only the Chloe girl looks like she's designed with the least bit of artistry. All the rest are incredibly simplistic and lacking in substance.

What a stupid way to waste trips, Daniel Chong.

I would kill for stagnant. Western animation is actually degenerating. With no signs of stopping.

animation is becoming more stagnant in general, not just in the west. as much as the weebs love to go on about "muh glorious nippon", shit like sameface and other animation shortcuts are just as prevalent in anime as in western cartoons. granted it's happening to both of them for different reasons, but it's still there.

Sameface is a myth. Anime is animated much better than cartoons because of the frame-rate and amount of detail.

Anime artists learn proportions, shadows, perspective and all classic art techniques you'd expect and actually apply them. Western artists use circles and more circles and make some weird blob of a character.
The same face shit applied in the past too. The anime style grants too much perfection in the faces so this seems to happen a lot. But usually they rely on the traits and personalities of the characters. With moeshit that doesn't work well usually but an anime like Durarara is full of vibrant characters.
The West should focus more on the writing but that rarely happens. Shit like Count Duckula is what we really need.

Gee, I wonder who this user is.
Should I poke the bear?

You've followed me here, 4chan's Holla Forums, Holla Forums, made a thread about me on /cow/, and now back here? You are really mentally ill.

this, depending on the style I would of preferred stagnant to this.

What are you doing?

What are YOU doing?

this is the hill you chose to die on?

Muh 10FPS fight scenes in Naruto

Prove me wrong.

Isn't the frame-rate much lower in Japanese cartoons than in American cartoons?

You have no evidence.

To be fair, anime characters all have the same face.

How's North Korean animation doing? Admittedly you can get 24 highly detailed frames per second pretty easily if you don't pay the animators, and can shoot them if they complain…

Myth.

Easy, all anime, starting with Akira, is 12FPS.
All hand-drawn studios in Japan animate at 24FPS, but do it in 2s, meaning they only produce 12 frames then double each frame per second.

While the overall show may run at 24FPS in 2s, the main focus of a scene will only be animated at 8-12FPS, while backgrounds and unfocused items are only animated at 4-8FPS.

Sources:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frame_rate
web.archive.org/web/20050217101946/http://www.animeondvd.com/specials/articles/rf001.php
animenation.net/forums/showthread.php?t=201462


Got anything to disprove what I just said, apart from "muh feelings"?

prove it

Wikipedia is not a good source.
Random websites are not sources.


You first.

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I suspect that anything that contradicts what you believe is not valid to you.

downloads.bbc.co.uk/rd/pubs/whp/whp-pdf-files/WHP169.pdf

The author of the second link is Ron Ferrara, a writer and animator who learnt his trade working on Miyazaki films.

Also, I did some further reading on a forum regarding the production of Attack on Titan, and apparently they animated in 3s, meaning 24FPS but that's just 8 frames tripled.

Unless you've got any evidence/sources apart from "muh feelings", everyone can assume you're incorrect in your knowledge of anime production.

Westerners don't get to have opinions on anime production.

Mein Neger

Why?

Correct, you have no evidence.


You have no evidence.


BBC is not a legitimate news source.

This is technically you right now.

That's an intense fucking superiority complex you've got there, faggot.

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I'll accept my sources are invalid when you post any sources that disprove my argument.
I've posted articles and research papers from people who work in the industry, which you handwave away and say are invalid, while posting you're own inane shit and pretending it has any more merit.

It's well documented that anime generally has lower and less consistent FPS than western cartoons. Hideki Anno has written and talked extensively about when it is and is not appropriate to lower the frame rate.

What is a "legitimate news source."?

They don't make anime

Meaningless shitpost

Stating a fact is not a superiority complex.

Are you a westerner? You claim all westerners aren't allowed opinions on anime production, yet give one yourself.
You also fail to give any evidence apart from your feelings.

Reminder to sage and report.

This guy did make anime, though. Or are Miyazaki films not anime now?

He refuses to say where he comes from, but I don't think English is his native language.

I went through his thread on Holla Forums.
A Jap came along and told him he was being stupid, then he just cried and hit post limit in that thread like on here.

Apparently, now, neither Westerners nor Japanese are allowed to give opinions on the production of anime.

Who's left? Him?

Did he finally go away?

sys.8ch.net/log.php?page=1&board=co
Nothing yet, but keep reporting.

Exactly. Anime is the name japanese they gave to their animation. It's just country origin.

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Didn't they pick up the word from the french

What is the origin of this calarts meme? Since when calarts stopped to be taken seriously as a seminal school for animation?

But the word animation came from the Latin animatio, from animare. The japanese didn't have a indigenous word (like manga) so that's why they call it anime

Most of the people creating the current crop of CN shows are from CalArts, and the vast majority of creators for the shows the board generally agrees are good never went to CalArts and developed their own styles. Hell, some of them even outright state that CalArts is a meme and you just need to draw on your own.

CalArts now teaches how to use Flash/ToonBoom and how to draw those noodle armed monstrosities, so that's why they get so much hate. The grinning potato meme is also because of them.

Now I get it. And to think several people of calarts worked in Pixar and animated classic episodes of the Simpsons. Brad Bird studied in calarts.

Maybe calarts is suffering the same infestation that destroyed modern universities. Nowadays when you hear about Harvard, Princeton, Yale and Berkeley, it only came to your mind hambeasts screeching about rape culture, trannies demanding safe spaces, niggers from BLM and Antifa beating people with Trump hats.

Anyone who thinks that either western or japanese animation has a consistent frame rate throughout
the entirety of production is an idiot.

On a side note
source 1 doesn't mention anime
2 is basically just a generalizing blog post
and 3 is 404

Flapjack was the mother of all CalArt meme this is where the creators of Adventure time, Regular Show and Gravity Falls started seriously and later on spreaded their experience in other works.


Since Flash was becoming popular and easy to use.

So basically people rather to use new technologies to create more ambitious artworks they became dependent to them and more lazy.

I just gave half-arsed sources to see if he'd actually read them.
He did not, and instead just said they were false due to the URL.


CalArts is infested with people who learnt from CalArts and couldn't get a job.
As such, they don't have talented teachers, they have useless students who failed to get into the animation industry.

For example, have a look at the mini slideshow halfway down this page:
filmvideo.calarts.edu/programs/character-animation

That's what they're teaching the students, and that's what they deem as cutting edge and good for promotion.

I recall an image that floats around debunking the CalArts meme. Well, there's actually 3 or 4 of them that get posted together.
But in it, an animator whose name eludes me, goes to an arts school and teaches them how to paint still art, and their own teacher said they don't even know how to teach that at the school.


It's cheaper to get a bunch of art grad students desperate to pay off their loans on minimum wage with shitty Flash programs than it is to ship it off to talented foreign sweatshops.
How sad is that?

It also comes down to a lot of cronyism. I've got no doubt in my mind that CN staff who went to CalArts hire and promote their classmates, who in turn do it to others.

Hasn't every decline in animation been caused because the corporations found a new way to slash costs

Pretty much.
Even anime is cutting more and more corners every day to save money and produce it quicker.

Until we get true oversaturation and the industry crashes, we won't get another Golden Age.
The same can be said for every medium; cartoons, comics, video games, films etc. There's just so much of it and it all looks the same, so people get bored and don't consume it until people start producing new and creative things.

Comics were completely stagnant for quite some time and are now slowly getting better. There might be a true market crash, but I think they've had it easy financially due to cartoons/vidya/movies propping them up.

Cartoons are getting incredibly same-ish, and I think outliers like Justice League Action and Samurai Jack are getting more attention are going to become more mainstream.
For all the shit about JL Action not getting screened/advertised, the critics love it and keep bringing it up in articles
Also, CW has 3 animated works currently in production and we have shows like Archer, so I think adult animation will become slightly more commonplace over time.

Well modern universities are plagued by hippie commies who couldn't get a proper job either and became part of the faculty, so yes you're right.

I stumbled into the youtube page of the department of Animation of the Tokyo University of the Arts
youtube.com/channel/UCwUBFuggz861PvFtHun1J9w/videos

See the contrast


Very. Korea and Japan still teach the basics and that's why DC outsource them in relation to their animated works.


Scarcity in the hands of intelligent and creative people can lead to extraordinary works. Even greedy "shlomo shekelbergstein" give them a chance because of the novelty factor and because they recognize the brilliance. The problem is when the millennial little-now-it.all starts to meddle of the artwork itself sucks.

They got better during the 70s and 80s, and then got fucked over when the industry crashed in the 90s. Now they're sort of better than they were but I don't think they'll start getting significantly better again until a company besides Archie gets the balls to leave the direct market again, or some other major shift happens in the industry.

*or the artwork itself sucks

Zappa describes here what happened to music. But it applies to comics and cartoons.

Stagnant would be very generous.

This is why the Japanese industry is superior.

but modern shit doesn't project that shit onto it, the position, size or even shape of a character's features are arbitrary or rigidly fixed in the center of the head for no reason

Not really. They're still rather stagnant. The only thing that changed is that the Big Two publishers have scaled back their hipster pandering, which people confuse for progress.

Returning to their roots is what brought them back after the first 3 crashes, so by the pattern, this is positive.

How is this wrong?

Wow that's fucking stretching it. Selecting 6 Characters from over 50 years in different 3D spaces.

But that GIFS point is that those are all the same characters, from the same positions, over a 5 year period with the exact same stylings, body designs, and line thickness.


Look I don't dislike anime. But don't you want more? The same waifu dullard-ry may be fun, and so may be lampshading a repeated archetype for the first 20 times, but don't you want more?

Like…More different stories, more pushing towards different art types (Rather than making charts about how Waifu 362B looks so much more different then Waifu 362C because her eyes are a bit further apart)…Heck more personalities and things to do for characters?

Because if you don't then its not so much anime, as just your taste is just more more selectively low.

I'd rather have that then the bean mouth.

Have some more insanity, I guess? Forgive me, these aren't mine; I just screenied them.

sauce please
Is it from tumblr?

themsjolly.tumblr.com/post/138230491963/murdarioxstomp-charlesoberonn-somebody-all
themsjolly.tumblr.com/post/140014736763/ceeberoni-to-anyone-who-buys-into-the-calarts
I'm sorry

This is what the japanese guy said to fapbaitfag. The pandering is what destroyed the cahnce of more creative things. At one moment Evangelion (with all of its flaws) was someting innovative and avant-garde. But then they ruin the market because they wanted to play safe.

People who want more read manga. Current anime is specifically for people who don't want more.

Fapbait does not exist.

God this is desperate. Of course, the silhouettes look different (This isn't MLP). But they convey no personality, no energy, no emotion.

Check THIS shit out. It's like the one eyed pope of blindsville is talking shit about the Eagle eyed sharpshooters of Rifleton.

These two sets do make an interesting point. It's less the style of the design(although that's also a problem) than it is the lack of energy and lazy stock pose nature of the animation. Look how fucking dynamic those poses are by comparison.

Oh I can find Better examples to show even IN static poses the characters are 97% more samey.

These guys are much less dynamic, but they convey like 73% more style and can be separated by series much easier.

That asshole thinks that the Popey style having a similar head shape to mickey mouse is the same sorta deal as modern cancer animation?

Well you said it, not me.

nice try fapbait.

You don't have to apologize, at least it confirmed what is obvious, Tumblr is a cesspool.

Why the hell did this even get popular in the first place? Low standard for drawing talent?
Make Animation Gnarly Again

The book is titled The Animator's Survival Guide, IIRC

To be fair, not all anime is waifushit.

ebin

Oh for sure. The stuff that isn't Waifushit, or Shonenshit is some of the best stuff I have ever had the pleasure of watching. Just I won't be getting that until I bully enough fags to dislike waifushit and get my qualityshit.

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Eh well /jp/-tier shit has kinda become the public face of anime in the last few years, like how neverending battle shonens were the public face of anime in the 2000s. It's best to think of anime as a medium more than an actual genre

Is there a name for this color scheme / graphic design? I want to say it's something theater related but I can't remember. I thought Holla Forums might know similar artwork.

Does Durarara count as waifushit? The new one was probably the most entertaining thing I've watched in like 3 years.

Haven't seen it. Being based on a light novel, Probably but maybe not.

terrifying

Is moe a genre?

I vaguely got that and I still love this saying.

I'd say so. I mean you can have moe characters or elements in any genre, but I'd say moe is a genre and a successful one at that seeing the lucky star/k-on worship on /a/

Moe is an aesthetic, moeshit is a genre.

Moe doesn't exist.

Nigga you just need to look for the right stuff

I'm already with the Jojo man. I want more (Not exactly more Jojo but more off base riskier writing)! Like what's life but not the pursuit of betterment?

How can Lolis exist of Moe doesn't exist?

I don't hate JoJo, but it depresses me that it's probably the closest thing we'll ever get to another good yankee anime.

I know what you mean man, I'm still looking for something I can stick to that took the same kind of risks that Jojo took.

We'll just have to wait until Araki or some other writer hits a stroke of genius, the East has a better environment to develop such kind of talent than the west which speculates on social justice to care much about making anything of good quality.

Shush. It's the Dragon-Autist.

Which one?

Go insult Dragonmaid, bring up fapbait or moeshit.
It's a 700 post ride of fun.

No I mean which poster ITT do you think it is?

He has a thread on /cow/ now if you want to get up-to-date.

Oh, in that case, he is these posts:


He left pretty early, I was fully expecting to need another bottle of pepsi and some snacks to get me through the 400+ posts of [autistic screeching], but I guess Mommy sent him to bed.

The problem with JoJo is it got taken over by the mainstream Western audience. They think they're cutting edge for watching anime, so like to circlejerk over it, thus leading to a stagnant fanbase in the West.
It was much better when they didn't know about it and you could just shitpost without "Is that a fucking JoJo reference??????? xdDD" or "no spoilers pls only one part 1!!!"

On the bright side, I get to be a JoJo hipster now and can yell spoilers and call people faggots all I want even though I haven't read past Part 4 because of the Part 5 translation problems and an unwillingness to skip it.

I wonder what kind of era does this kind of design fall into. I mean the "sharp angles and detailed shapes", because I think it was pretty common.
It's not CalArts is it?

Riley a cute

Canada?

Whatever the era before cal-arts was called.

THAT can trace its origins to UPA. Or at least stuff like dexters lab and such can.

Personally my favorite style, the focus is reductionist efficiency. Thats why the characters are often the most sharp and Punchy

Ignoring the bullshit stretching they're still missing the point that those heads are shaped like that for actual reasons.Popeye's chin makes him look tougher, Tweety has large cheeks to make him look babyish/cuter, and Tom, Jerry and Mickey have snouts because they're animals.

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It's like he's trying to sound like a stereotypical aspergian you'd see on TV


The "Cartoon Cartoon" style you'd see with people like Genndy Tartovsky and Butch Hartman? It seems like Hartman really popularized. It also seems to have a tad of cubist influence

Maybe he learned his lesson"

*?

So it's all Butch Hartman's fault?

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EVERYONE DIES AT THE END OF PART 6

No, I'm saying he might be a major contributor to the trend, especially when you consider how much airtime fairly oddparents got circa 2000-2005

Make it scary again too


Different heights, shapes, color schemes, line usage
Nowadays cartoon network lacks in that

I studied at CalArts as a transfer student, 08-10. Place was a total shitshow and I intend to write a book about it. So many of the animators were or became socialist SJWs during my time there. I even dated a character animator who was a cool person until she fell for the libshit brainwashing and turned into a pissed off feminazi tumblrtard. After we broke up, she turned bisexual, too. As for the samey art styles, I saw the genesis of it in the 3 producer's shows I sat in on. It really started from just a few of the more influential students and spread from there. I truly believe Flash and Toonboom ruined animation in a lot of ways.

The round-faced samey style IMO is all part and parcel part of a social engineering agenda. Kids trust round faces. Round faces give a sense of warmth and security. They're advertising these shows to kids like safe spaces. Kids' cartoons used to be caricatures, exaggerations, outlets for the violent/pent-up energy young males exhibited. Now they function like testosterone-placating, neuron-inhibiting, society-destroying Soma for the developing mind. There's no fucking humor, or soul, or even room for anything but surface-level social commentary on (((approved))) topics. There's no escaping (((them))). It's sickening to me and it's the reason I left Hollywood.

Yeah I know. I know all the spoilers. Doesn't mean I don't still want to see that shit.

Tom and Jerry is one of the last bastions of quality 2D animation, yet people are shitting on it for no reason

Nope, it's actually really damn good as well. Waifu shit usually has no substance in the writing so I ignore it.


Also, speaking of framerate. I think the 90s Spiderman looked a lot better despite its lower framerate and can't look at any other iteration of it. Older animation has really affected me to the point where I prefer detail over framerate. It's bizarre when Flintstones sometimes has more detail (albeit with looping backgrounds) than shit from current year.

He's said in the past that he's a Westerner. So I guess he doesn't get to have an opinion on anime either.

The quality animation in those movies is more wasting because of the shitty quick pacing they are storyboarding in. You can barely see good quality fluid animation when every 2 sec the scene is changing.

Go back to /mai/ elitist

I think that's utterly fine. I prefer framerate over animation. Just personal preferences I suppose.

Then watch, or read, Mob Psycho 100. Self improvement and personal growth are what three of the main characters are focused on in different ways. Series also takes advantage of unique animation techniques (mainly Paint-on-glass animation) and has very distinct art style.

If you just want something that looks very good, Woman Called Fujiko Mine has excellent visuals, but story is hit and miss. 1st episode is probably the best.


Any other interesting stories?

It's mostly a balancing act. If low amount of frames is taken advantage of properly, it can look good.

No I found Mob Psycho belongs under the "Bleh" pile. Anime often uses weak lampshading to cover for a lack of actual advancement in the plot or structure.

I didn't like OPM and I don't care for Prototype OPM.

It's actually the other way around. OPM was first, and ONE work on it as a practice for Mob Psycho 100.

Anime discussion goes on /a/.

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And it's still better than most everything else out there in the west, so what is your point?

Just learn to draw on your own.
Open up commissions or do art for something like a developing video game or shit. Do things for free just to get experience/references, but don't rely on it.

If you really need to, start doing porn to make money. Furries spend the most but it's soul crushing.

If we're going by "the pattern", then this shit will happen again because mainstream publishers are always chasing short-term sales over long-term growth.

I can't view this as a positive. It's just another reset in a long line of resets. A total crash would better than another repeat.

It's forgettable!

People became lazy instead of trying to do more ambitious projects using the new tools

Can confirm. Furries will constantly pester the artist to no end when it comes to even minute details of a commission such as skin color, tattoos, character size, penis length, etc.

Black people have the BIGGEST snouts!

If cartoons are potato heads then Anime are kite shield heads

Cartoon characters are designed as logos, to be clear and be recognizable. And SUPPOSEDLY on model by design rules, that other artists should follow this is the key to their visual identity.

Anime characters are all designed from a base that has its proportions fixed depending each body shape based in reality, to make them recognizable people add tons of shit and accessories, mostly crazy haircuts ( think my little pony basic mares) lastly each mangaka ads their details and "quirks" wich define their styles.

You realize now, Anime characters are made kind of like MMO character creators. The character sheets are used more as references than rules as well.

Anime discussion goes on /a/.

I knew that. That's why I find it much more difficult to be visually interested in Manga and Anime. Much more Ridgid.

That's appealing for some, just not for me =P


Nah its a reasonable discussion about art techniques.

THEY'RE THE SAME THING YOU CUM-SNORTING FUCKING MONGOLOID PIECE OF SHIT

Obligatory.

Oops, meant to quote

>>>/a/

HAHA IT WAS ACTUALLY ME DIPPER

Don't be a cocktease. Elaborate.

like everything else

I generally agree, but
It's a sad state of affairs really, there's almost no decent imageboards for discussing non mecha anime

I would love to read that book user.

Only on the anime side, the manga side is smaller but still good for discussion.

Just made sure your message was forwarded to our friend the tumblrina ;^)
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This explains the embargo on legitimate action cartoons. Even Hanna Barbara had a ton of adventure shows Space ghost, Johnny Quest, Birdman, Blue Falcon… etc.

You made a Fatal mistake by sending her Dipper squished into those caricatures. Now they will deflect by focusing in on them.

That was a joke, user. I don't think she's even going to respond.

Im very gullible by nature.

As much as I had mixed feelings about Regular Show's character designs (especially its terrible female designs), that shit still looked less insufferable than the other CalArts turds.

Its interesting how the silhouettes on the bottom stick out more than the ones on top. The only one on top that sticks out for me Gumball's. The rest could easily be generic background rejects.

I want to see Dipper versions of the second set of silhouettes and see how they react.

Just a reminder for all animufags here.

isn't there an image done in the exact same style that sends the opposite message?

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They also have noses in real life, too. I really would like reddit to leave and take their "revelations" with them.

But that's wrong you fucking retard. Good animation conveys movement and emotion.

That is some intense cherrypicking.

What is this? Tumblrchan?

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AYO HOL UP

Hey there SJW Weeb. You're chimpingout at some pointing out that a bunch of animu character look mixed at best?

2000's Canuckistan.

How long before Takashi0 pops up in here to say that "not liking calarts means ur anti-artistic freedom" or some shit. Hell, I think the only reason they give these animators free passes is cause they're liberal hipsters, if they were anywhere else on a politcal compass they would be getting their asses handed to them

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Why on earth would he show his hide here?

vanity I guess

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Was shitposting part of your plan?

What the fuck happened.

This is not me, this is one of my stalkers impersonating me. I would never make that bad of an argument.


Moe is a feeling.


Wrong. Their designs reflect their personality and purpose, this is obvious and most people can tell you that.


Wrong.


Cherrypicking.

That doesn't necessarily contradict what they said Satan.

Anime characters and MMO characters are completely different.

Does this show qualify as cal arts?

He has returned.

Stop following me around. You are pathetic.

Vanity possibly. as likely saying "it's okay to go way off model because it's artistic expression." Because he doesn't understand that Cartoons aren't the same as art, art is subjective which means it can't be criticized, cartoons are not subjective, which means they CAN be criticized for imperfections

The majority of anime characters aren't human looking to begin with. Even with that K-on example, this is how the character looks from the front.

It is me Aku I have returned.

Long ago in a distant land, I, Aku, the shitposting master of dankness, unleashed an unspeakable meme! But, a foolish samurai warrior wielding a rare Pepe, stepped fourth to oppose me. Before the final meme was dropped, I tore open a portal in time and flung him into the future, where my memes are law! Now, the fool seeks to return to the past, and undo the shitpost that is Aku.

The k-on girls are representative of typical Japanese high school girls. Of course they are human.

I meant looks wise, with the way the eyes and noses are drawn.

They do not look the same. Look at the eyes, each girl's eyes are a different type of round and have different types of eyebrows.

You should post this on the aku thread

DAMAGE CONTROL

You know very well it's an impersonator, probably you.

Is pointing that out really worth identifying yourself? I mean you're not a namefag so I assume you're not a complete faggot who identifies himself on purpose.

You are the one that's been impersonating me, you knew this would happen.

You came to the /cow/ thread, admitted this thread was you, then came back later with the same ID saying it wasn't you.

Does your stalker also use your fucking router? Is your mummy shitposting to get you banned so you actually come out and speak to the family and go into sunlight?

Can you read? I posted in the thread that you made that it wasn't me. I wouldn't be surprised if it was you were desperate enough to use my IP as you've been folloing me.

So now I made the /cow/ thread and you're so paranoid as to believe that someone has found your IP, signed up to your ISP and moved into the house next door to you in the HOPE of the ISP assigning them the same IP as you?

Top-tier wew, lad.

You have followed me throughout the imageboards so it wouldn't surpise me.

You have no evidence.

I wish I had the time in my day to follow you through 2 sites and 5 different boards.
I just read the archves on /cow/ and notice you on here because you make a thread go up by 100+ posts in an hour, which is rare and noticeable.

You're one to talk. You have been following me around in hopes that you can document my posts, you said so on /cow/.


You are part of the faction against me. Of course you follow me around.

Should be a bannable, tbh.
The "faction against you" is everyone. Not a single person has agreed with you.
The following boards have, to my knowledge, talked about you and laughed at you with not a single defender amongst them: Holla Forums, /cow/, /a/, Holla Forums, Holla Forums and 4/co/.

The fact you weren't even able to convince people who love anime much more than the other boards, nor convince a group of battered housewives who suck up to Niggerwood makes me believe you truly are insane.

Dubs mean nothing. You are part of the faction against me. /a/ is useless, as it is an awful board filled with westerners who have a single minded focus on anime girls. They have no knowledge beyond the superficial of anime. The vols are obvious newfags who enforce wrong headed ideas about the topic and can't handle being corrected on the matter.

Just stop posting about anime on Holla Forums. Everyone would forget about you in a week, but you're so petty that you absolutely must convince a bunch of people you will never meet in your lifetime that you are correct and better than them.

It doesn't matter if I am or not a westerner. You have no proof that he's Japanese. My goals are not your concern.

It does matter if you're a westerner or not:
You said westerners may not have an opinion on anime production, then said the JapAnon may not have one either.
You clearly think you are above every other anonymous person here are are just trying to make a name for yourself.

I see, so your autism and stupidity are planned? That makes me feel better. I worried there was someone as truly worthless to the human race as you walking around, but if it's scripted I can rest easier.

This we can agree on.

Look at , we don't even know if he is Japanese.

You have no evidence of this.

Why do you think I care about what you people think?

Remember it could always be worse

I'd rather have that tbh.

Remember to report this guy for spamming the board with his off-topic shitposts.

Seriously?

It's like it was written by someone with legitimate Dissociative Identity Disorder.

I haven't done anything wrong.

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You have no evidence that I have broken the rules.

Yes, it could be a loud house or SvtFoE thread

That was like the second post I've made ITT.

You have no evidence to support that claim.

You have no evidence to support the claim that I was impersonating you.

You admitted to me on 4chan's Holla Forums that you did, and that you will keep following me around. You are seriously mentally ill.

because being talented gets you fucked, makes you expensive, and pisses off accounting as the koreans who animate your shit have to work harder and slower.

Don Bluth is blacklisted, fox' shitty marketing for Titan AE gave the industry an excuse to shitcan him from the industry.
John K, while a genius, was all ego, pissed off everyone in the industry and got himself blacklisted.
Many of the greats (chuck jones, etc) were part of a very different era of animation, and when their time was up, they were also unceremoniously shitcanned from the industry and replaced with cheaper shittier animation (filmation and Hannah Barbara)
left to only do random specials throughout the 60's and 70's.

The second golden age of animation is over, money talks and talent walks in today's age.

Good animators are relegated to special animated movies and high production value movies, or fucking drug commercials.

calarts is lauded not because it's a place for talent, but a place to train a workforce of animators to draw in a way that promotes cheaper and easier animation so the animation teams in korea can churn out animation at breakneck speed on the cheap.

That's why it's lauded in the industry.

They do not care as long as throwaway series #234124 brings in ad revenue.

Why the hell must we depend on Korea for our animation?

It's supposedly cheaper.

because a south korean animation sweatshop that uses chinese prison labor can churn out animation far quicker than a team of lazy hipster filth

I'm not the guy who was talking to you earlier in that reply chain, nor am I one of your stalkers, I was just saying it's a bad idea to go out of your way to identify yourself.

I'm not pretending it didn't happen, based on how people were basically tracking you earlier in this thread it probably did happen, but I'm not the one who did it.

Thank god, Samurai Jack is back.

MODS = GODS

Why are my posts deleted? I have broken no rules.

Your posts were off topic. Please just stop responding to your stalkers. It doesn't matter if you're right or not. If you keep engaging them, they WILL turn you into the next Bitch Aaron.

Takashi0 please leave. Nobody's oppressing artist's freedums by telling them to draw on model

who

a CalArts apologist who legitimately believes that execs wanting animators to stay on-model is oppression of artistic freedom because he doesn't know what the hell professionalism is

A friend of mine doesnt give a fuck and just goes to see any movie that is currently playing, because he likes going to the movies, but I did manage to inform him about shit like nughostbusters and how they bullied bill murray, so he just pirate that shit.

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Depending on stylizing is cancer

That's just sad.

This looks like those Marxism transformation infographs Holla Forums likes

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He certainly influenced Rebecca Sugar to do something.

DON'T
NO
DON'T DO IT

Yes

Except when is anime style because anime girls are hot*

-waifuguy

Did they really?