What's your thoughts on joseph stalin ?

Okay tankie.

He's literally as counter-revolutionary as you could get.

The only individual on the planet to cause more butthurt than Karl Marx and that's saying something. The man himself was nothing, what his imagine stands for is everything. Stalin for the working people of the USSR was the personification of communism, and was no different for enemies of Soviet power. As a rule, you can distinguish revolutionaries from counter-revolutionaries by their opinion on him.

This best be bait

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Wew lad.

He had the right ideas about jews, I'll give him that.

What could go wrong ::DDDD

I'm also gonna go out on a limb and claim that both he and FDR were fascists just by different names.

JOKE'S ON YOU, COMMIES! THE FASCISTS WON WWII!

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The essence of communism is a system based on the total socialization of human labor (completing the socialization beginning under capitalism by abolishing the wage system) with production geared primarily towards use-value. This inherently implies a communal, classless, democratic society and the Stalin-era USSR fits perfectly. Sure, there were commodities in the USSR, but only for consumer goods. There can't be any kind of M-C-M in that kind of economy. And without an economy driven by the ceaseless expansion of capital how can you have capitalism? You obviously don't. So unless you're going to claim the USSR was some kind of post-capitalist class society, a laughable claim, it's best if you quit pretending you know what you're talking about.

Your apologetics for Western plutocracy are starting to get pretty outrageous by now. You can paint Stalin as a nazi collaborationist if you wish, but in truth the Soviet government throughout 1939 was actively trying to organize a second Entente. Negotiations only broke down in August because their conditions included Soviet troops in Romania and Poland, two fascist-inspired anti-communist states the West could not afford to lose. The Nazi-Soviet pact was only a response to this isolation, a practical and desperate bid for time in response to an inevitable imperialist attack.

nope

Except the so called "worker's state" under the USSR pretty clearly had its own unique class divisions between inner party members and the rest of the population. The means of production were controlled by the party, which was itself oligarchic and effectively a separate class from the average Soviet citizen.

Nice try, but the Russians remember WWII as "The Great Patriotic War." It was a war defending their volk from a foreign threat. After the war, were Stalin and Mao all buddy-buddy, trying to set up a global revolution? NOPE. They hunkered down, and even fought a little with each other. Commies are the real Nazis.

I did not paint him as a collaborationist, stop projecting. He made stupid strategic decisions - making a non aggression pact with Hitler was one of those.

Not only that, but purging your militaryof your top officers years prior to the war doesn't help either.

Zhukov did nothing wrong, praise Kaganovich.

I thought about saying "went one step forward and then sideways", but I fail to see any improvment from the NEP.

When Greece and Yugo have so much in common.
FOREVER ALLIES!

What class? A class implies continuity, a means for a group to perpetuate itself through the existing system. No such thing existed. The average bureaucrat had no reason to expect he would keep his job forever and even less reason to expect it would be passed on to his offspring, not even General Secretaries were safe from losing their position. What a bizarre kind of class society this is. We have the "rulers" who have no hold over the property they "own" and no way to make sure their children can inherit it. Give me a break. Corruption existed in the USSR, that much is obvious. Stalin and a few others were even able to grant themselves salaries of a few thousand rubles. This is not a testament to any kind of class system, corruption will exist so long as government exists.

Without the pact the the Soviets would've been deprived of extra territories and Hitler certainly would've attacked the under-prepared USSR even sooner. Sound like a fair deal to you?

The military was easily one of the most counter-revolutionary branches of government at the time. Well into the 30's thousands of Tsarist officers had remained in command. There wasn't any alternative if the communist regime was to retain it's hold on state power.

While they perhaps did not constitute a class in the Marxist sense, high ranking Soviet officials had a stranglehold on the reigns of political control and therefore the means of production and excluded the vast majority of soviet citizens from participating. They were effectively an oligarchy that controlled the means of production.

The rule by the rich. Ancient Athens after Isagoras was tossed out is considered a democratic republic even though 10-15% of the population, most of them slave-owners, monopolized political power. Why do you think that is? Because the poorer sections of the citizenry were given a means to wage a struggle against the mega-rich. It wasn't absolutely democratic, it was arguably even less so than the United States is today. But compared some of the other polis at the time it was leaps and bounds ahead.

It is no different for the USSR. Sure, some of the higher party leaders never went hungry, had flashy military uniforms, and were allowed to use some nice country dachas but nothing there is even remotely comparably to capitalist society. The USSR was no perfect democracy, but it was a thousand times more democratic than any country in the West now. Political power was quite firmly in the hands of former proletarians and peasants.

Yeah, a tiny fraction of them who became their own political clique that monopolized power. If they were so democratic then why was censorship so widespread? Why was it illegal to emigrate? Why did they revoke the political autonomy of the Soviets? Why did the slightest removal of these authoritarian controls under Gorbachev cause the whole thing to come crashing down? Many of be problems of the USSR arose precisely because it was so undemocratic.

How much time, 16 months? And even with the pact, the soviet forces were not even prepared to defend anything. Make a pact with the Nazis, but move your military forces to the east. Great strategy.

They were accused of being in alignment with the German government, which was never proved, in 35. Then others were accused of being Mensheviks. And others of being Trotskyists.

You can keep defending your daddy all you want tbh.

How can anyone say that Stalin was better than Hitler? They both carried out the exact same politics. Both were fascists. The only difference is that Hitler was literally perfect and Hitler wasn't aware of the killings in his labor camps but Stalin was about his labor camps.

What the fuck are you even imaging there?

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