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I've been interested in a lot of leftist ideas for a while but what I find off-putting about almost all leftist websites is the amount of identity politics that does absolutely nothing for me. It's hard for me to get into an ideology that tells me I'm muh privileged and need to "check" that muh privilege all the time.

It's not just tumblr, it's almost every leftist website I go to where this type of ideology is dominant and unchallenged. I get banned and called "racist" and "sexist" for saying things like "affirmative action should be based on class not gender and race".

I wish things were not this way, and if you guys can give me examples of leftist websites that are not like that and where race and gender neutral ideology is the norm then I'm open to that.

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Holla Forums

Welcome home comrade.

Now, how much do you know about leftism and what do you want to know?

This one

here tbh
welcome home fam

Did you miss the subtitle, Hibernian?
WE KNOW YA LOT!
YA PART OF THOSE THAT CONTROL THE MEDIA AREN'T YA??

Welcome.

Because your idea is stupid and you dont even know what AA is ment to redress

I don't believe it was false

I admit I don't know much. The main things that appeal to me about leftism are:

One thing I'm wondering is what Holla Forums thinks about the federal reserve. Lots of negative info about it online, but it seems to be exclusively from libertarians, the alt-right, and the right in general, so I don't know if it's all bullshit right-wing propaganda or not.

A Neoliberal institution created to push banking interests and keep capitalism chugging along. It's massively incompetent at the latter and great at the former.

Yeap, you're stuck here. Sorry for your tough lot, user.

That's some harsh shit.

ded.increpare.com/~locus/whiteness/

its a shame that despite having inactive mods and rampant shitposting this is still the only place for leftist discussion i can recommend to you

Ow the edge

Ignore the resident shitposter OP, he won't fuck off back to reddit yet

Well thanks for giving us the full story, you really proved your innocence there

You are literally muh privileged though OP, you can be muh privileged in some ways and not in others.

Also, you clearly have absolutely no idea what AA is

Behold, the worst part of this board
Study it so you may identify those in need of the gulag

Isn't it embarrassing enough to admit your life is over without going into the gory details?

He may be user, but that's clearly something that haunts him to this day.

Welcome home, lad.

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why does he have to prove anything to you, fuckwad?

Oh, almost forgot the memes

AON RUD A FÉACH ANSEO , SASANACH

when acknowledging that blacks are disproportionately affected in the system by being in the working class
it doesn't mean "we" have to rally behind "them"
no, it's a call to them to rally behind the all common "us"
this is how socialism works, liberals GTFO

WITH MICS EXPECT TRICKS!!

You probably believe that women are pure angels with golden uteri who are by definition victims forever oppressed by evil men.

What about killing the rich, and worker ownership of bourgeois property?

If this resonates with you, I think you've found a home.

fuck identity politics.
You're home here, comrade.

I almost don't want to bother reading it before shitting on it.

#REKT

I'm becoming a tankie fuck this

Don't do it user. Do you want to become like r/FULLCOMMUNISM?

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it's not Holla Forumsshit, it's actually a good story

I'm half way through,m user tried to interact with a real political organization instead of joining a cult like a sane person.

Shit results.

holy fuck that's some cancer

Go away, rapist.

Comrade you're home. This is the only real place we can discuss leftist ideology. We may not agree all the time how to get there, but we do know this, we know that the workers must unite to take down the Bourgeois to be freed from our chains of wages.

The more comrades that are willing to join our cause the better. Maybe one day the proletariat will become conscious enough to fight for freedom under Socialism and eventually Communism.

Fight on Comrade Annon, and become educated.

I shall now accuse you of rape.

YOU HAVE RAPED ME!

Go away rapist.

You're describing tepid liberal leftism, people here want to kill the wealthy and distribute their property.

There would be no taxes because there would be no money.

I suggest you read The Communist Manifesto. It's a pretty good introduction to leftist thought, and it's pretty short.

The fed is like life support for the markets. It is designed to regulate something inherently unstable and dangerous. Whether the Fed should exist or not is sort of a non-issue for socialists, as the very system the Federal Reserve is regulating(banking, investment, money supply) would cease to exist.

YOU OWE ME A TOESIE

you misspelled meant

im aware

Your situation is fucked, but as a black man it would be worse. Or probably some sort of trans. Women get off light in the sex offender stuff though, so that’s one instance in which you’re not muh privileged.

Affirmative action is liberal shit, but exists to help people who are institutionally disadvantaged within bourgeois democracy. Along class lines, some demographics remain underrepresented in some areas. Besides, black people and single mothers and whatnot are overrepresented in the lower class.

Does it? In reality, most beneficiaries of affirmative action in the US come from wealthy immigrant families from, for instance, Nigeria. Descendants of slaves, who you could actually argue deserve some form of affirmative action, fail or are failed by the system long before the time comes to apply for college, in general. Of course, I don't think there's anything wrong with affirmative action assuming all other things are equal.

Right now, in the US at least, affirmative action and "holistic" admissions serve mainly to fill an institution's diversity balance sheet, discriminate against Asian Americans and for Jews (who ironically were victims of the same kind of discrimation at the hands of the WASP elite), and admit legacy students or children of big donors, who are otherwise lacking in merit.

Yes but if you were to base affirmative action on class as opposed to race and gender, it would help with that problem anyway, in fact even more so. Blacks are overrepresented in the lower class, so blacks would disproportionately benefit, but it wouldn't benefit the middle and upper class blacks, hispanics and women who obviously don't need it.

And more people would be ok with it disproportionately helping blacks, hispanics and women because it would also help the impoverished white males who also need help.

But as it stands now, affirmative action would give priority to a middle class immigrant from latin america, or an upper class woman over an impoverished white male. This is why, while the "privileged white male!" spiel resonates with a lot of middle class suburbanite whites and most urban hipsters, it leads to resentment from poor white men, which leads to them voting heavily for republicunts, which leads to states with very high white poverty like arkansas, oklahoma, west virginia etc. being solid red states.

Of course the republicunts give just as many fucks about them as the democunts, but the republicunts are better at pretending to give a shit about them.

This. IIRC Henry Louis Gates complained that affirmative action policies among the Ivies were heavily abused by the children of wealthy West Indian/African/biracial families