Xiaolin Showdown

So I just finished re-watching this and a few questions came to mind…

Why do they use the Aristotelian elements?
Why are they just assigned their elements?
What point is there in having elements?
How does magic work in this universe?
Who or what are the “Heylin”?
What exactly is Wuya?
Why does Wuya even want the Shen Gong Wu?
Why are the Shen Gong Wu tied to Wuya?
Why are the most overpowered Wu conveniently forgotten about whenever they would be useful?
Why is Omi incapable of understanding slang yet Master Fung and Dojo have no problem with it?
Why is everyone capable of getting into the temple vault?
Why did such an Eastern-themed show use such a binary good/evil dichotomy?
What are the Shen Gong Wu and how were they created?
Why are the names of the Wu all in English?
Why does everybody speak English?
Why is Omi the only one with glowing dots on his forehead?
Why do the Wu reveal themselves one at a time and not all at once?
Who the fuck is Mala Mala Jong?
Why do they immediately call a showdown just cause two people touch the Wu at the same time?
Why are there Shen Gong Wu based on modern vehicles?
Why does the Ying-Yang world have such retarded rules?
Why did Chase turn Wuya human again?
Why does being evil automatically give you random powers for no reason whatsoever?
Why are the writers incapable of staying consistent with Shen Gong Wu functionality?
Why are the Wu found in such retarded places?
Why is nobody in Hollywood capable of writing time travel well?
Is Xiaolin Chronicles worth watching?

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Absolutely not.

My theory is, they are all in a comma because they wanted babies of their own so the doctor cut their legs.

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FUCKING HOT THAT'S HWAT

Same reason Avatar did. Who is the target audience?


Destiny or some shit.


I don't know, affinities and naruto shit with magic chakra paper.


It's fucking magic, they aint gotta explain shit.


Hey you.


She's a witch.


To rule the world.


The yellow guy who defeated Wuya made it so.


Shit writting


Dojo is hip. Master Fung is a master of language and esoteric speak.


Why doesn't batman just kill the joker?


Go back to why they use the western elements.


Yellow master dude. Monk Always Gone


Wuya


Now you're just being ridiculous.


Why does Aang's arrow glow?


Why do the Talismans? Because plot.


Mojo JoJo


Recognised ownership.


The ancients actually invented everything first and then knowledge was lost or hidden from the public at large.


Because writers are retarded.


Why the fuck would he not? Muh dik.


Because villiany plot powers.


Because writers are shit.


Plot.


All Jews, no talent. You should know why they already ran out of ideas and have to lift from fucking anime now.


NO.

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HOL UP
HOL UP
SO YOU BE SAYIN'
WE WUZ KANGZ N SHIT?

YEA NIGGA
WE WUZ KANGZ N SHEIT

I wish it were…

Jesus

Here you go user.

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I'm guessing Avatar took from hinduism, I doubt Xialin showdown did the same tho

It was one of those shows that was acceptable enough to watch while waiting for whatever was next to come on.

The Xiaolin are Buddhist, which is descendant from Hinduism, so it likely did take from it. Same goes for Avatar (In fact the word avatar itself is Hindu for the physical incarnation of a god)

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thanks satan

That bugged me so much. They said that before they bent the elements humans did energy bending but in the flashbacks they never show that.

Energybending is just fancy bloodbending my dude.

Energy bending is chakra bullshit. Bloodbending is just waterbending with blood.

That's what they wanted you to think with all that fancy glowing bullshit in Avatar. Korra pretty much showed Aang (((energybending))) with no fancy glow effects. Face it, its a retcon.

Korra is fanfiction and has no effect on actual Avatar lore.

I wish that was true.

t. Bryke

one thing that I always remembered was when Raimundo betrayed everyone to help Wuya she didn't eventually stab him in the back, instead she actually rewarded him for his help. She was willing to let the others live just because Raimundo asked her.

Fun fact: it was a common joke in the writer's room that Raymundo gave up sex with Wuya to save his friends. So every time they'd write Raymundo into a tough situation, one of the writers would joke "he gave up sex for THIS?"

This only lasted like, two weeks, because the joke stopped being funny very fast.

I find it hard to believe the guys who wrote Omi could ever consider the vague concept of a joke being played out.

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thanks user. Do you have the whole series or just the wuya bits?

Little faggot should've at least fucked her before betraying her.

All my Webms are Wuya related. I do have a bunch of screencaps though.

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There's "jokes you make with your buddies at work" and then there's "jokes you write to keep the episode interesting and tonally consistent that you get paid for."

I always loved the setting of Xiaoling Showdown, but it could have been a lot better.
How would you fix it, Holla Forums?


Man, I always admired Raymundo for giving up sex with her for his friends. Everyone hated Raymundo because he betrayed his friends, but everyone threaded him like trash except Wuya, and even then he forget them, and was rewarded with not going to the next level, nice!
He eventually became the goddamn master, though,

Get rid of Hannibal Roy Bean. Rework a lot with Chase as well.

What's wrong with Hannibal Bean? Chase can have better motives. Actually, Chase Young can be Deathstroke 2.

Shit design that just screams to be loved by reddit.

I don't remember much of his personality, but he definitively got a lot of shit writing. Wasn't he the reason why Chase became bad or some shit?

Yes. He gave Chase Young a soup that made him evil and gave him a monster form.

「SCARY MONSTERS」

Well, you're right, he have to go. Dunno what Tumblr have to do with it, though. I do like the idea of a tiny villain using Moby Morpher.

Honestly, it was a lighthearted show you watched for unusual action.

I kinda went through a phase of hating people talking about evil like it was an objective entity, but now I find it adorably charming.

Xiaolin Showdown reminds me of 90s X-Men cartoon. Fuck, even the intro is kind of the same. I've always liked that "GOOD VS EVIL" Clash in both intros. I know is shit writing, but is so lighthearted, you just want more. No political bullshit involved either.

it's really not.

I mean is it really "Shit" if its doing what it wants to be doing pretty efficiently the collection of McGuffins notwithstanding?

Its got enjoyable characters really solid action, puny amounts of politics (Even if those seeds DID eventually lead to the current situation)…Pretty fun overall.

How would I fix it?

God this is why cartoons are shit. Everything must be puddle deep lore and shit.

I'm not saying that what your suggesting couldn't be a decent show on its own, but do you really need everything a hyper-serious show or some shit?

All your suggestions would pretty much take away 99% of the charm.

It's just meant to be a silly show. Look at the villains outside that dudedge with long hair for fucks sake.

Good man.


the series ends with Raimundo fully redeemed and Omi learning to be humble. that's pretty significant character development for them at least.

You sound like a really boring person. Seconding

I dont give a fuck about "muh deep lore", I just want a damn reason for certain things being what they are. They could give some half-assed explanation for the Wu like "they all got made by some wizard thousands of years ago" and I'd be fine with that. That would still be better than what we got, which was fucking nothing. I'm fine with the show not being serious, as long as there's a method to its madness.


I'm not denying that, I just wish it had been done a bit better. To the writers' credit, they actually built up Raimundo becoming leader pretty much since season 1. Omi on the other hand was pretty much the same up till season 3 when the writers realized the show was going to end and he was still a huge asshole, so they had to give Omi some character-building episodes to justify his attitude at the end. Clay and Kimiko got pretty much nothing throughout the entire show, so it's hard to say they really "developed" at all.

It was made by a Master craftsman like 1000 years before the start of the show, man. By the same guy who defeated Wuya initially, and later as well.

That's literally in the lore. There is literally a two-part episode with that.

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Yes, you are. If something, I give you that they should stick to rules when it comes to shen gong wu. Magic that have an explanation is usually shit. I think that what you want is an origin and an objective, which is also ok, but that doesn't mean an explanation of how it works.
Also, there's this guy

Like this is what the show was for its time. A 7/10.

Not really exceptional AT ITS TIME. It explained some stuff, mainly kept a lighthearted tone. A Bit of grill power but mostly held in the back. A Female character that actually had to learn some lessons.

Nowadays it would be touted as some kind of god show and there would be pages of shitty deep lore discussion, porn, and shipping.

Because nothings coming out. At a time when people seriously call SVTFE somekind of masterpiece and salivate over "Cuckqueening" (In a show where kissing is the fucking epitome of what people do) the one eyed show is king I guess.

I miss 10 years ago….I really do.

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I'm getting the idea that Wuya is one of the only redeeming features of this show.

Jack was great.

I heard they planned for him to become the fifth member of the squad as the element of Metal or something. I don't know if it's true or not, and I don't know if it would have been great or terrible. But Jack Spicer was great.

Damn she had plenty of outfits.


That would've made this more like the Chinese elements.

He did try to go straight only for it all to go ass up.

So do I, pal, a time when political bullshit didn't matter and you discussed the quality of the show based on whatever you liked about it, not some sort of "Objective" subject, because most of what there was to like was subjective, since quality was pretty standard back then, but cuckqueaning is a good fetish, though.

Kimiko is the reason I'm into jap girls. Sadly, I've never met or even seen a girl with the same taste in fashion as Kimiko. I'd love to.

I have nothing against fetishes. I just hate self-delusion.

Jerk off to images of children, pets, inanimate paintings of Niels Bohr, just don't say its because you love them for the "Personality".

Also because SVSTFOE has no cuckqueening in it and people are just making stuff up because they are desperate for any content in shows.

>>>/cuckquean/8257

You're half right. The wiki does say that Dashi made the Wu, but the episodes themselves dont. I rewatched the first episode and that two-parter, and they say that Dashi had the Wu, but not explicitly that he created them himself. But that's nitpicking a bit; could've been clarified with a slight dialogue change.


ok. for the record, i was mainly complaining about how some people would get random magical powers for no reason whatsoever. again, something that could be justified with a hand-waved explanation and be perfectly acceptable.

That's fucking RETARDED. That's called teen drama bullshit. But again I covered it before:


What the hell happened to this place? How are you any better than 13 year old giggling about characters holding hands:

"OH MY GROSH, She TOUCHED HIS HAND WHEN SHE WAS APPLYING THE BANDAGE! That must mean they LOVE each other!!!!!"

A Cuck is a person who willingly watches somebody fuck their wife or significant other. Star did what? Kiss marco maybe? You gonna stretch Teen Drama Pair-up bullshit into fucking CUCKQUEENING?


Its just the small stuff. Like your correct that they could have spent like 2 extra seconds on the handwave, but I already get it. Like Chi or some shit. Who cares?

Never change, Holla Forums.

this thread needs more Wuya

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He's a fucking talking bean that's evil and for some reason super feared and powerful for no reason because he's some kind of martial artist with no real powers, mysticism or magic, and all he ever does is use that mobi morpher wu. Only thing of relevance he ever did was give Chase the soup of evil. Yeah, what a fucking achievement for a moldy legume.

Oh fuck…


This hit me harder than it should. I know these feels well.

Why would you share this shit? I've never been more appalled and disgusted in my entire life.

Honestly she was my least favorite female character on the show. Mainly because she's a catwoman knockoff and not even a good one.

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Growing up I thought Jack Spicer was so cool
Then they added that dragonfag and that sucked

truly the best

I remember my brother and I joking about Omi's design.


I thought that bean was a joke character that couldn't last more than one episode.


Jack Spicer and the fat ninja stole the show.

The helmet of champions and kings.

too bad Tubbimura was only in two or three episodes

I know they changed a bunch of things in Chronicles, but how bad is it?

The showdown segments became shitty 3D Tron shit. They added a shitty new character that looks like Omi called Ping Pong. Chase Young laid an egg. Wuya became voiced by Cree Summers. it's awful.

A lot of things. Voices actors for one, Dojo is yellow, Wuya is uglier, the writing is not that good, the new Wu are trash or poorly renamed due to copyright bullshit, among other things. Overall, the whole thing feels more like a soft retcon/reboot that takes place in its own warped reality that has little to do with the original. I will admit though that there were a few concepts I really liked that were sadly under used. Like the shitty Omi copy had an interested background that could've been expanded on, and like Omi he too was an orphan but instead of being raised by xiaolin/taoist monks, he was instead raised by christian monks in an abbey. Omi raised in an azn environment and the Not-Omi in a yuro one had potential of adding an element of "East meets West" and how they can unite despite being cultural opposites, which was sadly also not explored much and left vague, with Not-Omi having very little in common with traditional abbey monks or yurop, and he even had an azn accent which only brought further confusion and made the poor writing more evident, and considering that both longed to have families, it would've been fitting to reveal that they were related or even brothers in hopes of learning more about their past and whatnot. I also liked the idea of Chase's "daughter" and how she was birthed and her role as a traitor, but that too was poorly explored and developed as the poor writing and character development never made use of her or took her relationship with Chase to more complex ground. There was also this creepy but potentially interesting incest vibe between them. Jack's bots were given more diverse AIs and some had real personalities that could've complimented him well in the old series, but that too was under developed. Other than, yeah, the show was really poorly done and was clearly just a cheap way for Canadians to cash in on nostalgia and toys, like they did with that dreadful CGI Inspector Gadget revival.

Oh yeah… I forgot about this. I wanted to forget this damn you.

That sounds awful.
And if they were going to add another character to the Xiaolin side, why not that black kid from the original series?

Didn't he turn evil for a bit which fugged up his chi, balance or something?

They got the rights of Inspector Gadget but never reused his original song?

Was Inspector Gadget cartoon, actually good? I watched the original one when I was 5, and while I do remember bits and pieces I don't think it was actually a good show, at best average. I also saw the reboot/sequel with the two mini-gadgets, and I didn't like it all that much, I only watched it, because there was nothing better on TV and I liked cartoons.

WE WUZ MONKS N SHIET

Possibly the greatest theme song ever.


I liked it as a kid.

I totally dropped when I heard the "brand new" theme song. Does anyone remember Inspector Gadget and Gadgetines and or Inspector Gadget jr.?

I forgot how good this series was, even going from a episodic feel to actual development with Wuya coming into flesh.

Every episode felt important with the Sheng artifacts being lost and retreated every now and then, bad guys winning the duels here and there too helped it feel better.

I miss shows like this.

I liked how there were a lot of different subplots attached to specific artifacts, like how that one group of them tried to posses the Brazilian kid to turn him into some ancient evil warrior.

YOLO
And yes, watch and have fun.

Damn it looks like shit.

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What a shame.

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He probably would have been less fun if he was a good guy.

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I dunno. Just a few touches, maybe like fix the lore in some places, a bit more consistency with Wu…And the shows pretty much all set.

The Hannibal bean idea was already close with him being able to summon that suit of demonic armor. Maybe make that his true self.

Official opening sequence
youtube.com/watch?v=IQS93tiSvUc&feature=youtu.be

I'm not giving you the views. thanks for a decent quality intro upload though

His destiny is to be the bad guy, or at least be given a "heroic" motivation in that he wants to take over the world to make it a better place free of crime and villains but where he's in charge and gets all the ladies and vidya games.

Its strange how Anytown and Craig Barlett's current style are identical… Makes me a bit horrified at the possible realization.

Pretty good


Would have been pretty interesting seeing him actually learn how to use some martial arts with that element

redemption implies jack did anything wrong which he did not

Well there was that one time where he enslaved the world and turned it pitch black for no reason and he had very little personality added to the environment. But the Wuya cheerleader was a nice touch.

Doctor Doom Jr. huh? Yeah that works.

I didn't like Ray suddenly becoming the leader. It was obvious from the intro and the logo they planned omi to be the leader but couldn't make him interesting so they just gave up.

Why was he so perfect?

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it always felt so awkward whenever they had to assemble a rogue's gallery like this because they never had that many recurring villains. In the intro sequence they show off villains like Tubbimura, Mala Mala Jong, and Panda Bubba even though they only show up in 2-3 episodes each. Also Vlad should have been a one-off villain; he's not interesting enough to reuse.

I wish they actually sold those jackets.

Not bad. Though I prefer the one without the panda.

The young me wondering why Cyclops worked for Jack without Wuya?

Because he's a fucking one-eyed retard.

Why were they so perfect?


And why did Kimiko's waistline and chest size always seem to change as much as her style?

Youtube doesn`t have all the versions fuck this

Why are you tripfagging?

He's been doing it for years and the blasted fucker refuses to stop it.

They already have a BR, why the fuck not