So, explain to me why they couldn't ride the eagles to Mordor? Its a pretty big plot hole

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Why didn't they let Saron win? Much better than the white fascists tbh. They need orcs to make their countries vibrant. And who doesn't like the amazing orc cousine, a bit of rape and stuff is well worth Morborne fastfood.

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The eagles would be slaugthered by fell beasts and archers before they would even get close to Mount Doom.

They would be spotted by Sauron you retard

Because to eagles, hobbits is good eatin'

The Ring Wraiths had that scary not-dragon, also it is physically impossible to throw the ring into Mt. Doom, so it wouldn't have achieved anything but handing it right into the hands of Sauron, but I guess you wouldn't know that because you just watched the movies.
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the magic butterfly was a rare drop so they couldn't summon the eagles again, duh.
gandalf's a fuckin noob he should have read gamefaqs

Depends who you ask; some people believe that was his original plan, but he died before he could get them there.

Others note that the Eagles are still an independent party in all this, so it is unclear if they would even agree to help in the quest. They could easily refuse if they wanted, which would make the trip pointless and put them in an even more perilous route to Mount Doom on foot.

Not to mention that we already know that Sauron has spies in the skies, so he would know that they were coming and have time to prepare his archers/fell beasts/anti-eagle defences. In the current story they don't make their plan as obvious to Sauron, so he doesn't actually realise their target is Mount Doom with their goal to destroy the ring.

They would get shot down by Sauron's flak cannons.

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Yes. The main element of the plan was to exploit Sauron's assumption that the Ring would be used instead of being smuggled into Mordor just to be destroyed.

Taking the eagles towards Mordor would have signalled their intentions immediatly. Not to mention that plan could have gone to hell in a handbasket at the drop of the hat; the eagles were fickle stubborn creatures and nobody wanted to involve the only person in Middle-earth who could have controlled them, Galadriel, in their plan, not even she herself.

Nice bait, but to give you reasons from lore and practicality
-nazguls are more powerful
-intense stare of the lidless eye can scare an entire army, see the fight at the black gate
-eagles are direct servants of Manwë. After he and the rest of the gods destroyed Beleriand, they swore not to meddle in Middle Earth affairs
-they are NOT mounts and they despise to carry anyone for long
tl;dr it's magic I ain't gonna explain shit

The fell beasts are wyverns, and there were more than just one.

It's a meme you dip.

It's a pathetic meme used by pathetic people.

It's not just a huge hole

This is a film board

The bigger problem is the fact that they didnt try to fly them over moria and instead went under before trying at least.

I bet you meme on something other than lotr, fuck you faggot

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No matter how many times you explain why, faggots still pop out of the woodwork to explain how it doesn't make sense.

You have a roommate, Gandalf, who occasionally needs a ride. Usually small stuff like going to the grocery store. He did you some favors in the past so you don't mind, he takes care of himself most of the time anyways. Suddenly he's gone for a few days, and when he comes back he's talking about this pound of coke and how he needs to deliver it to the heart of Detroit, and how you totally don't have to help him, but if you want to…

Because they would've gotten shot down and the ring would've fallen in Sauron's hands.

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In the book though, Gandalf disappeared for years, then came back and disappeared for several more months.

Great plan, Stormcrow.

The ring has the power of Sauron in it and wants to be found by its former master, and that's probably the reason why Frodo put off leaving the Shire for so long.

I guess Tolkien really did think of everything or at least, he left a lot of space for the reader interpretation.

Gollum spend centuries in the same cave, so maybe you are onto something.

Now, the Fellowship being just random people that happened to vacationing in Rivendell at the time, now that's some contrived bullshit.

Heavy.

Everyone has a purpose to be at Rivendell. The only 'what the fuck' is probably Boromir who travelled 1000~ miles to seek Elrond for the meaning of a prophetic dream.

Legolas was informing Elrond of Gollum's escape, Gimli came with his father Gloin to seek advice from Elrond about the disappearance of Balin.

I think it was explained that Gollum went underground because everywhere else ostracised him after he murdered the other fellow.

What did you mean by this?

he was researching on the ring. Or more likely getting drunk as fuck somewhere inside forest


frodo didnt want to move because hobbit life is top C O M F Y.

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Fuck Gandizzolf bruh -

oNE DOES NOT SIMPLY DRIVE INTO DETROIT WITH COCAINE

high fantasy is garbage, always was

The only good fantasy is Conan tbh

What are you on about? Elrond says

Not

The books, dipshit

Inbred elves who can't even shoot shit right infront of them shooting an eagle size of a mini cooper just won't happen no matter how much you try and justify.

It is a last minute asspull.

In the books they were also summoned to Rivendell to deal with Sauron. Even Boromir was sent there by a prophetic dream.


The nazgul had flying mounts, which they showcased as soon the first book. Sauron didn't give them the command to cross the river until fter the sensed Saruman was thinking about betraying him, right before the Battle of Helm's Deep.

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it's a book, nigger.

If the birds got taken out, the ring would have been delivered to Sauron. They had to sneak in there

Sauron should have been given the ring and the gods would have reset the world and started all over again.

ghhhh

This is the movie board dipshit

Are you offended by the bad words or the violent death?

They would have been shot down, or killed by fel beasts, or magic'd down

That still doesn't make sense, there 9 of them, only one of them fly under the sun, even then they are deterred by holding a magic flashlight into their eyes. Even then eagles fuck their shit up anyway.

I'm not against it or you, I'm in peace with the asspull.

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because mordor had these

They have bows and arrows. Those eagles aren't armored.

I guess flying too high in order to avoind arrows (orcs can't shoot for shit btw tbh fam) would be to much of a hassle, right?
If Sauron can't detect two halflings slowly making their way toward Mordor, then he should have an equally hard time detecting them swooping in on some eagles, right into Mt. Doom and destroy that ring.

Actually he'd detect the eagles quite easily and then just send one or several of his winged beasts and create a shroud over Mordor which would be impossible to navigate. That is of the curse of the ring didn't strike first in some manner, like one eagle taking a liking to the shiny thing and took it.

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