What went wrong?

what went wrong?

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Everything.

Red Porkies took control of the Republican government and burned it down because they would prefer Franco over anarchism spreading

Well, they're not Marx's "first we have the state take over everything and then we have the state abolish itself" but they're still pretty dumb

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Where did he say this?

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What, are you one of those liberal chumps that thinks dictatorship was a synonym for autocracy back in the 19th century? Thanks for demonstrating that most anti-Marxists haven't actually read any Marx for us again.

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Nah i'm a cooperativist

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Dop isn't really contradictory to anarchism

when did bootlicking kiddies take over this board?

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ancoms took over

When n1x absolutely destroyed the viability of anarchism as a concept.

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Continuing in bourgeois enlightenment thought instead of forging a new proletarian philosophy

Anarchism isn't a dead movement. Libertarian socialism was/is the most active strain of socialism before and after the USSR.

Sophistry

That's just plain wrong. Marxism has been the dominant school of thought in Europe from the middle of the 19th century and onward with the only exception being Spain.

only ML achieved great, has constantly warned of the thread of revisionism and still had to be undone over decades
only ML has relevance and can have relevance as being the accurate way of establishing socialism and communism

*threat

Even when Marx was still alive libertarian socialism was the dominate form. The first internationale was mostly composed of anarchists.

M-L's achieved as much for the working class as SocDems did.

If you keep repeating it that won't make it true.
The First International expelled Bakunin and his followers and they faded into irrelevance anywhere outside of Spain.

Just off the top of my head what the USSR achieved, fuck off

Socdem countries achieved very similar things, with the exception of ending unemployment.

Marx expelled Bakunin and the anarchist majority because he had the power to do so at the time as the chairman. They weren't voted out by popular vote, mostly because that would have been impossible.

To add on to this, Marx went so far as to move the Headquarters across the sea to New York to prevent the Bakunists from completely taking over, the Bakunists having more and more influence by the day in Europe.

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Where did this upsurge in Bakuninism lead?

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Are you conceding your previous point?

It associate itself with the Left.

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sure thing kid :^)

the moment you have to use memes as a retort you've lost the argument.

what has post-leftism ever accomplished exactly?

More than any ukraine peasent commune or spanish fascist rape fest and russian mutant capitalism ever did.

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So you can't list anything then?

depressing read tbh

Whats this fetish with practise? Post left anarchy is an individualist strain of anarchism that shows its practise in illigalism and insurrection. It isnt some grand and delusional le world revolution that will liberate you or something.

What it has accomplished is reviving anarchism from its sad pathetic existance of being the lap dog of the left labour movement and marxism making it self independent of the left its influence for once.

Reviving it how? If it's accomplished nothing then what use is it? Anarchism existed as a leftist ideology before marxism did.

Leftism is just a continuation of liberalism wich still upholds enlightened like progress. And anything that was left was raped at the first international, killed at the second and the final nail in the coffin was 1956 and then leftism became officially a joke with social democracy, marxist leninism and national liberation and trotskyism.

*enlightened ideas

You still haven't told me what good post-leftism is, only asserted that anarchism is somehow not leftist because other leftist ideologies are abject failures.

what?

*what good is post leftism

You should be able to figure it out

Are you saying nothing about it is good?

What is 'good'' is subjective, for the left its ''bad' just like it is for the state or the right. Post Left Anarchy is extreme Individualistic for its anti state, heavy critical stance towards organisation, anti idealogy and anti society. If you want to know about it you should dive in yourself or just disregard it in willfull ignorance if it doesnt go along with your ideas If you allready are a collectivist or Authoritarian or Leftist you allreayd know plenty to disregard sutch a petite bourgeoisie lifestylism

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Does it seek to replace capitalism with something?

With Anarchy, Not Anarchism. But communism may be an option.

Would there be any law? Technology? How would it be planned/enforced?

Post-Leftism confirmed for pointless nonsense

You see, I think this is my biggest gripe with the post-left. It just seems like an example of that point Zizek made some time ago that it is easier for people to imagine the end of the world than an end to capitalism. In the case of post-left anarchism (or whatever they want to call it), the world doesn't necessarily end, but humanity does, in the since that all organisation and cooperation is stripped leaving only humans behind. Sure, capitalism is ceased, but what takes its place as a system of organisation?

Nothing.

At least we can agree on one thing, if nothing else.