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tl;dr give me bullet points

Marvel are realising that SJW shit doesn't sell

Basically this part

But arent they both?

If you guys read Brock threads you would already know this.

Shitty female characters.

They know, they're just being butthurt.

What could it be?!?

It's good to see at least one corporate entity come to its senses.

So no more niggers?

I want the faggot who told me in a thread a couple weeks ago that Marvel wasn't likely to change their SJW liberal comics into something actually profitable because "Disney has a lot of money, they can afford to lose money on comics, they can just make profits in other areas" to apologize for being a fucking retard.

That's a funny way to say that they are going to stop making shitty preachy books that promote broken ideologies which have no basis in reality or reason.

Because every "diversity" oriented book has been utter shit and shows no concern for quality storytelling. In fact, each and every one of them has been a transparent attempt to virtue signal to a microscopic contingent of insane, cult-like ideologues.

Tastes didn't change. Comics changed when all the writers and artists disappeared up their own asses and started to believe that all media was meant to be an act of activism and protest.

Comics were already diverse as fuck. People don't want diversity at the cost of good stories, strong characters, and interesting plot-lines.

There were already tons of female characters. They didn't want FEMINIST characters, because feminism is a goddamned cancer.

>We saw the sales of any character that was diverse, any character that was new, our female characters, anything that was not a core Marvel character, people were turning their nose up against.
WOW!! It's almost like these characters were forced into the storylines at the expense of characters people actually liked!

None of it worked because every single idea was just a shitty hashtag in comic book form. They weren't stories. They were political statements, and poorly informed, ill-conceived ones at that.

THIS IS WHY YOU DON'T TREAT 500 RETWEETS AS MARKET RESEARCH YOU DENSE FUCKSTICKS.

FUCKING HELL. The problem is that there NEVER WAS AN AUDIENCE FOR THE SHIT YOU WERE MAKING. Tumblr faggots don't buy comic books. Hipster doucheclowns with made up gender pronouns don't care about crossover events. Blue-haired perpetually offended feminists don't like superheroes!!

I'm fucking glad that they are trying to course-correct, but these asshats didn't learn a damned thing! They are demoralized and disoriented, but they think the world is wrong, not their ideology. They are confused that their idea to pander to people who never cared about their shit didn't work, and now they are going back to pandering to the people who do care, but it's too fucking late.

They're still the same lefty shitstains they were before, only now they are trying to hide it again. Too fucking late! The cat's out of the bag! You despise your readers and your customers and you think black tranny pansexuals are the true audience for comics, but you just couldn't inform them well enough to buy enough books.

BRAVO YOU FUCKING RETARDS. I HOPE YOU ALL DIE IN AN AIDS FIRE.

Honestly it kind of feels like more than anything they're saying "We're sorry our audience are shitlords."

name the last time the x-men stopped a crime.

that wasn't a hate crime.

Keep in mind that this guy doesn't speak for everyone at Marvel. Mike Costa, the writer of the Venom series, has written satirical porn comics that make fun of feminism. satire which went over Holla Forums's head

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I ain't apologizing for shit, they've done this song and dance dozens of times

Trump is President and White Nationalism is mainstream, things aren't like they were a year ago. The political climate has changed.

I think they may have learned their mistake, but their way of making it public is just tumblr-safe and damage controlling.

It's still counterculture at this point, but we're seeing a rise in blatant anti-white shit and now that it's been pointed at, the average person is starting to notice that they left is super fucking hateful

I hope I'm dead by the time the pendulum starts swinging the other way again, though.

They're starting to learn their mistake, but we have to keep on their ass. I'm planning on picking up Venom #6, but if they give Brock and illegal immigrant sidekick or add anything political to the mix, I'll be dropping that comic like a sack of horse shit.

True, but Marvel/ has not. Their writers are still SJW faggots, and Disney has if anything doubled down on their lefty shit. I expect them to say this to boost sales and then not do it.


Even so, I'm never giving them money again. No 13th chances.

Haha what? Nigger go outside and take a good look at the real world away from imageboards, then tell me this is the case.

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I don't even like Trump, mainly because of he's clearly just a slightly more extreme Ziocuck, but the Left lost. Their shit stinks and the only people buying it are radical Marxists and dumb minorities.

I actually don't mind whoever they add as long as it's not some blatant virtue-signaling bullshit and they leave the main characters alone.

I live in Southern California, everyone white I know is now openly calling blacks niggers and talking about how they're sick of all this jew shit. The black people I know are all insecure and feel demoralized as fuck, the Jews I know are delusional and don't see what's happening. I do go outside, and I see what's coming I'm spic, btw

kys

And thus the slow decline starts again.
Honestly, why must people like you be such faggots.

I read 1-5 online, they're good. 6 looks like a super fun comic and I like that the series is written and drawn by two Hispanic guys who don't virtue signal at all.

You think your ass is safe?

And thus you've decided to give Marvel your money.
You're a retard.

Sorry, fam, I'm not tumblr. If I like something I support it.

I'm in Southern California, white/hispanic relationships here are actually good. So long as you're not a dumb beaner who can't speak English you'll be fine.

And you honestly wonder why comics suck, because faggots like you keep throwing money to companies with shitty business practices.
You're the cancer that killed comics and you have the fucking gall to call someone else Tumblr for not supporting Marvel comics.
"Yeah sure Marvel has fucked us over for the last decade but guys they're making a comic that's gonna be good this time promise, they deserve my money!" said the battered housewife of a faggot that you are.

What if you're just reading them for free online and not paying for em?

I mean that's fine, nothing wrong with it so long as you don't give your money to people who hate you.

The superior option. Always.

The only way things will ever change is if people vote with their wallet.

If something is good, and actually worth your money, you spend money on it.

If something shits the bed, you keep your money. They haven't earned it, and you don't owe them a damn thing.

If they wanted our money, they'd have given us stories worth buying.

What do you want to happen? For them to go bankrupt and never make comics again? That isn't going to happen. That isn't going to happen, ever. Supporting their good comics is the only way to show that those are the things they should be making.

I understand what you're getting at, and I'd even agree with the practice in certain situations, but the problem is that it requires you to know whether or not something is good before you buy it. It also requires that the recipient of your money is directly understanding why you think their work is good and what particular elements of "goodness" you intend to support by paying for their product.

In a situation like this, where Marvel publishes the comics and the team that works on them receives a steady, set salary, sometimes regardless of sales, because of their work contracts, your wallet vote may never be correctly translated into properly communicating your support.

Yes, and voting "I approve of what you do Marvel" is wrong no matter how you slice it.


Yes. Yes I do.
Of course not, because you're funneling them money like the retard they are.
Why should they give a fuck when you've already previously stated that they run no risk of going bankrupt, and can thus afford to push their agenda as much as they want without fear of consequence? Why does comics have to be such a cucked medium? At the very least with video games people are willing to pirate a good game from a bad company, but you'll throw your cash at Satan himself if he puts Eddie Brock on the cover.

lol


Jesus Christ, are you still trying to spin that?

Are you asking Marvel to treat their employees like human beings? What world do you think this is?


You the sad part about this is that I still don't think Marvel really gets it

This!
Even after what OP posted i still feel some cockiness from them!

Read the OP, there obviously are consequences.


Wrong, I didn't buy any of the shitty comics they threw Brock into over the last 3 years, and they did it a bunch. I looked at the comics online and saw they were garbage. This new Venom series has fun art and fun writing. I actually like the comic, it isn't just Brock.

So you're saying they stand to lose money, but they will never go bankrupt. So they need more money, but also have a supply of infinite money they can use to live forever.
Face it buddy you just want to feel vindicated giving Marvel money because you know you made a fucking stupid decision, but you're not going to find any reassurance here. You're a dipshit and you deserve no sympathy.

kek, why would I want sympathy for spending 4 dollars next month? They'll never go bankrupt, because they've got Disney backing them up, but they could stop making new comics and just sell reprints. I actually like the medium of comics, I like European comics, I like Japanese comics, and I like American comics. I don't want the industry to die, I work in the industry. What I want is for it to stop sucking. It stops sucking when the good stuff gets bought and the bad stuff gets ignored.

Oh, I don't think they are wrong to do things the way they do, but after a certain point someone needs to understand that the company is the problem, and not just specific elements within it.

It's nice that they can employ people and keep the comics industry (partially) afloat, further encouraging the creation of more art and storytelling… but this is a company that actively seeks to create an internal culture of extreme lefty bullshit, where they use their ability to publish comics as a form of political activism.

Look at it this way: Marvel may occasionally produce a good book, which under the principle of voting with your wallet is worth buying and supporting. They then take that money and hire Kate Leth and Erica Henderson to make a dozen more Hellcat and Squirrel Girl comics, because someone got a bug up their ass that the market demands more hipstery faggot comics that are just terrible.

Ahh there we go, the truth comes out.
We got a shill here folks, plain and simple.

I don't work for Marvel, nigger.

Sure buddy, you work "in the industry". Marvel doesn't employ you technically, you're from a marketing firm.

Proof? The Hellcat and Squirrel Cunt books have different editors than the Spidey and Venom books. There are different divisions with different budgets. It's a company, the editors who made those shitty books are probably going to get fired.

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They're using nepotism to it's worst degree at Marvel, they aren't even hiring people who can pick up the fucking slack. I've got two artist friends who have been noticed by people from Marvel at cons. They exchanged emails and talked, they asked them if they could draw for a few characters who would they be.

One of the choices was Squirrel Girl

They didn't get a response after that.

Yeah, I come here and make storytimes because I'm being paid too, it's not like I just enjoy comics and want to share them, that's insane.

It's all the same company. My point isn't that your money is directly funding bad books, but that you are supporting a bad company who has bad practices and uses their resources to actively support the creation of bad books.

I want to see that happen.

You can't say you like comics but then say you support Marvel. They're mutually exclusive. That's like saying "I like video games and support FemFreq".

I don't have any facts, but what I'm going to do in the coming months is check what editors are on which books. I have a strong suspicion that Wil Moss, Sarah Brunstad, and Charles Beachem are going to be getting less and less books while Devin Lewis will be ranking up.

Acknowledging your strategy failed without explicitly admitting fault is textbook damage control. Why should anybody expect otherwise? DC did it to some extent after DCYou and their own exodus of talent in the early N52 days.

Look at this man anons, look at him and laugh,

I haven't bought a Marvel comic since 2013. I now see good books coming from them, Cage!, Carnage (admittedly shit the bed in issue 16), and now Venom. I'm going to support Venom until it starts sucking. I also buy European trades, and Manga volumes, and I've been buying some of the Godzilla comics from IDW.

Nigger, I don't care so much about the characters as I do about there being cool comics with good art and good stories. I love the medium. Marvel no longer producing comics is not a good thing, it would be a sign of a dying industry.

Holy shit you can't be this fucking new.

Really?

No it's a sign that new creators who actually have passion and skill need to take this chance to take the fuck over

Keep us posted.

I understand where you're coming from, but I'm not sure I agree. Either or both of the big two collapsing might be a severe but ultimately beneficial thing for the medium.

Yes, really.

Agreed. I wouldn't mind if Marvel and DC curled up and died off because of it though. I'd rather have an indie company with a few good series going on every so often. As long as the books are worth reading, actually grow the characters, and actually fucking end instead of becoming soulless husks.

Valiant is a contender? I mean alot of their books do have characters who die and never come back along with some having their stories end.

After all the insults and agresions to me and my ideas it's too late. Fuck marvel

If any of you want to side with them, at least have the dignity to demand an open apology

How would Marvel and DC collapsing help new creators? Creators have the internet, anyone can publish anything. Marvel and DC aren't taking away form that.

Valiant doesn't really have anything that interests me enough to read or buy.

Clear out the dead wood, create a vacuum that new publishers can fill.

Valiant sucks, m8. Name one good comic from them.

That's ridiculous. What space is Marvel and DC take up? Are they taking down webcomics or something? Stopping other publishers from making comics?

How fucking stupid are you?

Just ignore him lad, he's already shown he's either a moron or an employee.

Wait, what was that? Pandering to people whose only pleasure in life is bitching about things they never actually fucking bought in the first place isn't all that great a business strategy?

Well golly fucking gee wilikers, if only someone, somehow could have possibly seen that one coming…

I was giving you the benefit of the doubt, but you really are starting to sound like a Marvel shill.

You people are insufferable.

Bad comics being made is a bad thing. Two companies dominating the market is a bad thing. Perpetual copyright is a bad thing. Multimedia conglomerates are a bad thing.

Copyright is a bad thing, I never defended that.
I agree with that. What does that have to do with buying individual comics from writers and artists you like? Marvel is a massive corporation, by buying one particular comic you like, you are only supporting that comic, the same way that when a vegan goes to Chipotle and buys the sofritas or beans and rice, they are only supporting the vegan products, not the meat stuff.

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But that's wrong you fucking retard

You're supporting the fucking business by buying from that fucking business. Marvel doesn't work on the indie comics way of support. Are you retarded?!

What's wrong with it? Corporations keep notice of what sells and what doesn't sell.

Buying more vegan food from a company that also purchases beef will not make that company purchase less beef.

MARVEL FUCKING HASN'T AND KEEPS CONTRADICTING THEMSELVES

I know that writers and artists don't get extra money from their comics selling well, but by buying their stuff, Marvel will put them on more books in the future and do more stuff like what you've bought.


Actually, it does. Go do some research on Chipotle, they made a ton of money from catering to vegans and they now buy less meat than they used to and buy that meat from farms with better practices than other ones.

Did you read the OP?
They are changing their tune.

I'm not gonna tell you not to buy comics you enjoy, but I think there are serious limits on the efficacy of "voting with dollars."

We'll see.

THEY SAID THE SAME THING WEEKS AGO. THEN WE GOT MORE SJW SHIT. WE GOT FUCKING AMERICA FOR CHRIST'S SAKE!

Which brings me to my next point: Selective boycotting within a company only works with a large, cohesive group with a clearly communicated intent.. and even still, their selective purchasing hasn't stopped Chipotle from doing the thing that vegans don't want them to do.

If we're the vegans in this case, and SJW Diversity pandering is the beef, then we'd want them to stop purchasing beef entirely, not minorly reducing the overall amount of beef they spend money on.

I bet you shit with your pants on like the casual scum you are

Can you stop shouting?

This.

You clearly don't know the internal dynamics of Marvel and DC, they plan their comics months ahead. By next year they'll be like DC is now.

The first step is having the vegan options. They're SJW isn't going to vanish overnight. Like the other user noted, they're currently making Venom an anti-SJW comic while they're still publishing America, first we get the option of buying actual quality comics, then the quality comics start selling better than shit like Squirrel Cunt and Americunt, then Americunt and Squirrel Cunt stop being published entirely. Vegans don't expect people to stop eating meat overnight, they realize it's a slow process of changing things. Vid related.

Mediocre at best? This is still nothing to celebrate. Both the big two need a total revamp or to just fucking disappear for comics to be an actual fucking business and hobby worth getting into.

Why are smug reactionary anime cunts (out of context anime screencaps/cropped hentai) even allowed on Holla Forums?

SUCK MY DICK
CHOKE ON IT

Does this mean I'm not gonna be able to get meat at Chipotle? Fuckin' vegans.

You guys are too impatient. Change, whether it's social change, or economic change, takes time. The mountain will not come to Mohamed, Mohamed has to go to the mountain. We have to force them to change, throwing our hands up and telling them to fuck off allows for the tumblr-cunts and cal arts fags to take those companies over.

There is absolutely nothing wrong with that.

too close to call yet

Forced diveristy is never a good thing.

Generating a character, or a story around a certain race is quite sketchy, and will not sell very well.

Oh, but it could. All they'd have to do is focus on telling good stories with interesting characters. It's not a stretch, and the difficulty, as the article in the OP illustrates, is that they don't seem to understand why their diversity pandering is a problem and how it damages the quality of their products.

In this case, let's toss out the vegan example and say that you want to eat at chipotle, but you found out that they are literally shitting in their food in solidarity with India, North Africans, and Middle Easterners who literally shit in their streets.. Now, you could buy from them, maybe order your food specifically without shit in it, but there's still a chance they'll fuck up your order and you'll get a burrito with a turd in it.

You could boycott them or write letters to their headquarters, or maybe even talk with the manager.. Or you could just go eat somewhere else, because it's not worth the fucking trouble to try and save them from their own fucking idiocy.

Maybe they just don't want long established female characters turned in to pandering diversity abominations.

Damn good question.

And I am sure to enjoy all the idiots that are going to forget what marvel did and buy their comics again.

Just leave DC and Marvel to die, tbh.

Kek, when you say it like that, I see your point. Maybe I'm just a fucking idiot, but I'm going to buy Venom #6 and see what happens. If they end up burning me, then I'll be the first to make a thread about it and tell you all that you were right.

Why does he equate "diversity" with female characters? Why does he think "diverse" can be a quality of an individual character?

Bishop when he went back in time and prevent Legion from murdering Charles Xavier so the Age of Apocalypse never happened. kek

maybe if niggers like you stopped bitching and actually posted your own smug cartoon waifus instead of trying to backseat moderate the place , there wouldn't be any animu ones

This. Trump voters live online, just like the pathetic liberal SJWs. They don't know the real world.

Who'd you vote for?

I only have Brock pics, tbh.

Don't respond to bait.

He is probably talking about making Thor a woman, no?

I'm really surprised Marvel haven't given Danny Rand an apprentice as part of their diversity drive. It's such an easy way to introduce a new character without the full retard Marvel's replacements have had (A martial arts master taking on an apprentice is natural progression).

Don't even need to worry about giving a writer credit for a "new" character (which Marvel writers have avoided) if they introduced a young Spike Yi (his apprentice in MC2).

8 years

They have. She's a little Chinese girl with a pet dragon. You probably don't know because the last Iron Fist series sucked ass. The new one looking to be just as shit.

Is there at least good porn of her?

This, more or less. I hope they've realized that their biggest fans were never SJWs in the first place. Pandering to SJWs does nothing but alienate their true fans.

Even if people were aware of her existence, most comic related porn is shit. Don't get your hopes up.

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Fuck off brockfag
Your husbando a shit

Their supposed lack of understanding is just Jewish hand-wringing to try and make the blow a little softer for any SJW that they may have gained as fans. They made a gamble by listening to the extremely vocal SJW faggots, and it ultimately didn't pay off.

That one fag that reads venom REALLY wants marvel's dick in his ass
Or he's a shill

You're still reading shit that treats you like an idiot, you're just doing it without the money exchange.

i swear these jews are so full of shit.

This is even more superior to "reading DC and Marvel but not paying for it."

That's like choosing to watch Korra instead of Avatar The Last Airbender because you can watch Korra for free.

The best Marvel/DC ever gets, the VERY best, is to the level of Korra.

If you want Avatar level stuff, you have to go elsewhere.

Because western comics are too behind the times to have smug waifus. American comics see that as something that appeals to online trolls. It's outside the model for capeshit. People who like superhero comics are all 100% bar none cucks, they're battered wives who are still in love with their abuser, they're delusional and punch drunk. They gravitate towards a tone deaf fandom for tone deaf out of touch "entertainment" made by 50 year olds who are desperately trying to appeal to today's kids and miss the mark every single time, refracting and multiplying the degrees of retardation and delusion.

Every single person who isn't a retard has already moved on FROM this capeshit dominated market.

American comics could be great. But dumping social justice for another brand of childishness isn't going to make it happen.

Ahahaha, yeah, good fuckin luck m8

And at the same time doesn't bring any new customers either.

I wonder what it will take for them to see that the emperor has no clothes, and that even this damage control is largely pointless.

I can taste the salt in this interview.
I wish they could realize that the key to making diverse comics is to make new characters and put em in a story so hot you gotta buy it. Of course people aren't gonna like your "ALL-NEW ALL-DIVERSE" teams if you literally just rip the titles from beloved characters and slap em on lazily written blank slates whose only interesting quality is their skin color or gender.

I can get behind a cool superhero that happens to be colored or a girl. I can't get behind the idea of replacing a character with a diversity skrull. Every headline that reads new BLACK Spider-man, BLACK Captain America, WOMAN Thor, MUSLIM Ms. Marvel, etc. just instantly turns me off.

Jesus, this is the most passive aggressive thing I've ever read.

so if i believe eating children is OK, i should fight to make it legal?

well geez, thanks trump-edited captain america

The fundamental problem they have is the same problem as many SJWs: They are actually super racist because they live in carefully curated social bubbles and they are so sheltered and so removed from the rest of the world that they don't even understand how insanely bigoted they are.

Agreed. Especially since Comics Alliance is supposedly closing down too. It's just to big of a coincidence to not be suspicious of April fools tomfoolery.

You idiot, didn't you read the OP? He clearly points out Venom and Renew Your Vows selling as a factor in their decision making. Before something like this, I would have been on your side, but we now have evidence that such practices are seen and appreciated. And it's not like this guy is making a bunch of reservations, he's supporting one book that's he's thoroughly vetted, and I'd bet if they changed the writer for even one issue, he wouldn't touch it until he'd read it online. It's all well and good to salt the earth when you're up against the wall, but that's not a sustainable strategy.

It's a 'we're sorry we got caught' type apology. They're not sorry for putting in SJW propaganda, they're sorry it didn't sell

Battered housewife plz

While I don't personally think anything Marvel is publishing is worth giving money, it was pointed out before that they are changing their tune only after Secret Empire is finished. They acknowledged that their readership doesn't want to read anymore Tumblr shit, so they probably want to get rid of stuff like America and the Unreadable Wasp as soon as possible.

You take that back.

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Moongirl, Hellcat, Squirrel Girl, America, Champions, Whor and probably a few others I'm forgetting. All that shit needs to go ASAP.

Whatever happened to the "anime/waifu fags are autistic" guy?

That's common knowledge, not one guy.

At really best, the most realistic scenario is that only Whor is getting written out. You know why? So that the real Thor can get his place back as Mjolnir wielder. They will probably keep all others like what DC is doing with Batgirl and Black Canary.

I hope she ends up dead in a refrigerator.

There should be a super-villain called The Fridge who goes on a killing spree through the SJ titles.

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You're giving money to people who hate you and wouldn't piss on you if you were burning to death
You're a battered housewife

Oh no, I'm just observing you two's cute little spat. If he's a battered wife, you're an inarticulate rabid dog.

Superfridge to the rescue!

Buying a Venom comic does not support Kate Leth. SJWs hate Venom comics, they constantly make snide remarks about them when talking about the problematic sides of Marvel.

You're a fucking retard. White nationalism isn't mainstream. It's civic nationalism that rose up among a contingent of republicans.

The political climate is just as charged as last year. People didnt change their minds about anything.


The industry is already dying from stagnation. Pull Marvel and DC Comics out by the roots and we"ll have good comics again.

Get out shill.


Are you from 1817 instead of 2017? "Diverse" and "diversity" is a euphemism for less white people, especially straight white males. That's why he's using it that way.

Anti-racist really is just a euphemism for anti-white.


Nigger please. You don't just HAPPEN to be a girl or non-white.


fuck off shill

Reminder that if there were shills on here, they wouldn't be nearly as obvious as you seem to think.

The school president is a girl who would rather get her tits licked than go to student council meetings

Wrong thread, user.

Or is it?

Hello shill, I see you didn't read Marvels shill guidlines pamphlet

I'm still interested to hear more.

This shit really did struck a nerve on SJWs because they are pissed at the VP for making these comics.

What do you bet we'll see some stealthy discontinuations?

You want to hear more about how the school president is a penis hungry hooker with a huge vagina?

Kill yourself, seriously

now you got me curious as well.

Well they haven't given up, now they are putting squirrel girl on tv.
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nice argument

Sounds to me like more doubling down. I figured this idea that Marvel was going to Rebirth their shit was too good to be true.

For some reason this was really funny to me. Good show.

EXCUSE ME?

They REALLY want the tumblr audience to be their fanbase, and a paying one at that.Then they wouldn't have to stop making liberal shit.

About fucking time. Now I can hate them for all the reasons I was happy hating them for, instead of the reasons I was miserable hating them for.

I would be fine if it was based off of Great Lakes Avengers. She was good in that.

fuck off venomfag


marvel aren't producing anything worthwhile.
I hope they die off as an example.
Also my omnibuses would skyrocket in price


if you believe it's right and have facts to back it up then yes, otherwise you're a pushover cuck


anyone else seen the headlines along the lines of "MARVEL BLAMES WOMEN" and shit?
they just cover their ears and scream.
I've seen some saying they need to double down on the diversity

When will Marvel go back to making comics that challenged the traditional format and had five year old girls in their underwear for a third of the issue?

Wow, turning their noses at something being forcibly crammed down their throats at every waking moment? Those bigots!
Because it isn't. Arguably it never was & it's current form is especially hateful & insulting to the reader base.
Being explicitly anti-white in a predominantly white market WAS NEVER A WINNING SALES STRATEGY & NEVER WILL BE.

Just in case you guys wanna get an idea how poorly Marvel is doing. The highest selling comics were Star Wars tie-ins.

Nice way of framing it that makes your readers look like big meanies, but you know full well it's not female characters people take objection to. It's bad female characters being shoehorned place of characters people already liked.

Isn't that how it's been for awhile?

The whole thing is intellectually dishonest.

These Marvel shitstains have no fucking shame.


FML

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GOD IT FEELS SO RIGHT NOT BEING AN AMERIFAT

There are independent American comics too. But you are right, America has a very sick culture of trademarks and copyrights. Not to mention the fact that consumerism is a national passtime.

They frame it like that because they know people won't actually do research. Fuck people won't even read the article, just see the title and go 'OMG FUCK THOSE NERD MRA ASSHATS'

Reading is a dead art in America. People are considering a paragraph to be too long to read. Fuck Twitter and generally social media for converting people to this shit.

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A couple centuries ago the masses couldn't even fucking read.

Become the change you want to see, fam. Can you draw?

I actually can, but I still consider myself an amateur. I was in art school for a time, but I dropped out, I still do some sketches from time to time to get my craft sharp. The thing is, as a writer, I keep having different ideas and changing them all the time, and I am never content for one idea for too long.

Twitter is what happens when you give the middle class a voice

Those look alright… Keep working though.

Yeah, no. I don't buy it. I'll believe when they fire that racemixing kike Brian Bendis.

Even if they fire Bendis, I'll not give Marvel my money ever again because I'm incapable to let grudges go. And Marvel made me create a fuckton of grudges over the last 4 years.

You shouldn't forgive them either because they are not sorry for ruining your comics, they are sorry that you didn't buy them.

Getting rid of their core white nerd audience was a terrible idea? Who knew.

I don't care.

If Marvel wants me back, they'll go back and retcon out every single stupid bit of fucking bullshit that Quesada and Bendis did. No metal leg Carnage, no Sentry, no fucking Deadpool, no Eddie Brock with Cancer, no Civil War, no Mary Jane being gone, no more depowered mutants, no more SHIT. All of that was SHIT.

Deadpool wa sbetetr as a smei-nobody instead of a Lobo ripoff only faggots like. Sentry is shitty Superman, fuck him, get rid of him. Quesada thinks Peter Parker should be single but a demon pact is more holy than a divorce? Fuck me, I hate Trump but let him deport this fucking jackass if he does one thing I like.

I hate Bendis too, but fuck your shit, Billy Ray. Fuck your drunk mother and your limp-dicked father, too, same as George Zimmerman can fucking drink bleach when he fucks himself too. Fuck Holla Forums and fuck you, bitch. Go back to your containment board, you don't affect or impact society.

As if the person he was replying to had one any better.

Das rite, Trayvon dindu nuffins, he was a gud boi. He be goin to church erry Sunday, he finna be turning his life around, and shieet.
#BlackLivesMatter

Eddie Brock no longer has Cancer.
Carnage no longer has metal legs.
Haven't heard anything with Sentry in a while
Sadly, Deadpool still exists and Mary Jane is who knows where.

Hey Holla Forums how is your dyke in chef doing, still having a meltdown I presume.

Calm down, son.

I won't be too sure about that fieu
The sjw and lgbt movement has been spotted in paris and a few other big cities middle 2016.
Be prepared.

fuck off


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it's not a meme if it's true

bullshit you fucking retard.

You let your yarmulke appear, Moshe.

They're making a Squirrel Girl cartoon, in response.

They still make over 40k but i think experiments like moon girl are done.

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Cuckchan Holla Forumsmblr on suicide watch.

Oh shit, does anyone remember Refrigerator Perry? They could totally pay him for his likeness. Imagine some obese black fuck running rampant through each book, and the heroes can't stop him because every time they try, a BLM crowd shows up and screams "He dindu nuffin!" The climax of the event is when Steve Rogers punches Captain Falcon in the throat, says "Gimme back my shield, boy!", and screams "WHITE MALE AVENGERS ASSEMBLE!" Then they all dogpile the Fridge and literally rip him apart.

I would pay good money for this comic. I would also pay good money to watch Marvel's editorial staff flayed living, but hey, we can dream.

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What exactly has she created from scratch? Agent X, which was a Deadpool reskin? What else?

Jeeze

Will it finally happen? Will Gail Simone never work in comics again?

Well, pretty sure DC won't have her back, but Marvel might. However, Marvel might be too conservative for her.

At least you have Moon and Ba, and that's more than most can brag about. Don't all these Portugeese translations and Spanish books make it over to Brazil? My country's comics scene goes through "waves" of being alive and dead. Every time things "die" they are revitalized by newcomers making their own books and either putting them up online, pestering publishers, or making their own magazines. Every time it's also done by amateurs who make comics on the side, mainly as a hobby.

Is that some Brazilian meme?


Limit of 140 is probably the biggest issue with twitter, and most other ones stem from this.

Well here's a level of anger I never expected to reach. But it sure explains a lot.

Hell of a thing to put on a resume, isn't it?

Her attitude perfectly encapsulates why Marvel's diversity push fell apart. Instead of letting a readership for those type of books grow gradually, they instead drowned them with shit product because they were impatient for success, which drove that audience away and pissed off their base consumers.

They literally have no one but themselves to blame for this fiasco.

No. She's carved herself a reputation being THE token female in comics.

Not that it matters much. She's sworn to never work on a book that doesn't have DIVERSITY in it.

She won't work for Marvel. Even though she got her first industry job with them, she quickly jumped ship to DC because they were too "dudebro" for her.

I get the feeling that Ms. magazine would be too "dudebro" for her.

I think she used to benefit from what I call "Tyler Perry Syndrome." TPS is when a person or group fills the space in a unique, un-catered to niche, i.e. feminists. She found an small but un-catered to audience and found success in spreading her ideas, and the best part about being the first is that there is no other competition, so you don't have to even be that good at it. The comic industry sees the new readers and the sales, then they think, "If one is good then 2 is better!" and that was the moment her career really ended.

See Marvel and DC thought that this was going to be a renaissance of cool collage aged kids breaming with originality and ideas that would find and bring in all of these other missing readers from niches they never considered, when they hired all these SJWs to write for them. What they got instead was a wave of drones all saying the same thing she was, thinking the same way she did, and writing the same way she does. With books filled with snarky Mary Sues emasculating, demonizing, and/or replacing white men in every book they got their greedy little hands on, demanding "sexist" artists be fired for doing their jobs well and replacing them with the potato farmers that Cal-Arts spews forth into the world, that world was perfect for the small niche group. Maybe this would have worked out for Marvel and DC, if this SJW bullshit wasn't being provided by all of the other forms of media and educational institutions that also promoted diversity and how whitey's evil, but they were. So now, Marvel is forced to sell a product that mirrors what everyone else is doing effectively taking Gail Simone's, once upon a time, unique and daring ideas and turning them into the same garbage that every one else offered.

TL;DR: Gail Simone no longer benefits from the SJW dogma she championed, due to everyone else now doing the exact same thing and her loyal audience can now get it for free on Tumblr.

I want to know which books is she referring to because straight white males are still selling. Hell even Unworthy Thor is selling better than Whor, despite being only a miniseries and not intended to last long unlike the cancerous tumor that refuses to wither and die that is Jane Foster. And we don't need to number the many Tumblr books that got cancelled.

You really can't argue with the facts that Ms. Marvel is bellow Top 100 most sold comics while Moon Girl is on the 200. These characters are intended to a very small niche, already inside a niche market and said target audience doesn't buy comics to begin with.

How presumptive of her. At least I am willing to give the benefit of the doubt the other side being ignorant and not knowing any better instead of being this willfully dishonest.

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Translation: we CAN actually create characters, but we can't count on them being successful (I know that happened with me when I created the Movement) That is why we shoehorn in these affirmative legacy characters because they already have a built fanbase and hope they love that too.


The only thing we had to brag about was providing artists to Marvel and DC that were experts in drawing lewd female characters. But even our artists got current year'd when that Albuquerque dude who made the Batgirl cover art where Joker is painting blood in her face decided to cave in and allowed his work to get censored. Nowadays people like Ed Benes barely get work (though he occasionally does some stuff for DC), he works now doing some commissions and teaching artists over here.

Dude could very well start his own company and create his own comics since he has the drawing talent, but he hasn't yet.

Heh some singer celebrity that Brazilian media tries to pretend he is very important and iconic, but he is not very relevant.

This kind of excuse-making angers me, especially out of an experienced author who I'm fairly positive has created original characters before, even it wasn't for comics. What happened to you for you to be on the side of laziness and thievery? I say this as a lazy man myself, and I see no advantage in a successful writer taking it up.

The Movement happened. She created an all-original team containing a extremely diverse cast with gays, asexuals, disabled and stronk independent womyn. Even with literally every progressive bloggers creaming themselves reading that shit and showered it with praise, the comic was cancelled after 12 issues. This why SJWs don't create anything of their own, because if they had to make original characters, they would have been political soapboxes but they lack that entertainment bit that hooks the average normalfag's interest. The Movement was set on DC, but had no well-known characters and was made for a specific niche whom Simone belonged to. Today its a failed experiment, an example of what happens when SJWs try to make something original and why so many prefer hijacking pre-existing characters.

Oh, that. And I suppose she can't elucidate on why it failed without either admitting fault or brazenly lying.

Don't forget the token Christian.

And once again, the vermin make their poor strawman the most sympathetic character.

he wants to suck did user

So they made their token another gay. Splendid.

That's okay. My new rule is to assume female comics writers are jackasses.

It's a good rule to have.

I like how pretty much every comic that has Batman in a non-supporting role is doing better than capeshit-related Marvel. It's a pity only Super Sons and not Super Dad is up there though.

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What really pisses me off is that Star Wars is literally the only thing keeping Marvel off the abyss.

Virtue signaling isn't profitable? Say it aint so! Poor starbucks and target and now marvel too.