Neets, outcasts, and losers

Well you aren't going to change anything whining on an image board. If you are indeed a lefty join a collective endeavor of some type. If nothing else volunteer at a foodbank.

Show some precariat pride ffs

lmao am I on /liberalpol/?

fuck….are you me?

I have used the term "precariat" before on Holla Forums last year. And got roasted for it. lol. The purists on here don't like the idea of differentiating between society's underclass and the average working person. But the bottom line is that the precariat is a growing segment of society. Professor Guy Standing estimates that about 40% of the people in society belong to the precariat. People who are precariously employed, unemployed or on disability.

Guy Standing warned that we have to do something about this problem (ie. institute universal basic income) or else the precariat will vote for the far-right. He wrote his two books before Donald Trump ran for president. He saw what was going on in Europe with the far-right. Front National, Golden Dawn, UKIP, etc.

It's a very common issue we have. It's just that people are too ashamed to come forward and talk about it. There is a major social stigma against being a directionless loser. Especially being NEET. We are the lowest of the low. My family is ashamed of me. They see me as the black sheep of the family.

Shame doesn't work against me anymore. The system is a fucking scam. My family thinks I'm bluffing when I say that if it wasn't for their support, I'd off myself.

Where is the incentive to work hard and be a good little cuckold when the bourgeois basically tells you "beg for scraps or starve"?

Smh

t. Part-time volunteer for homeless shelter

Fuck them. They would rather vote to kick out the browns and the blacks than even vote for a socdem yet alone do anything usefull for a revolution. He who does not works does not eat.

OP plz respond

this is the hostility I was talking about. Guess i'm "lumpen scum" too, huh?

sorry I dont have steam

because leftypol are a bunch of first worldist morons who thinks workers with the type of wages in the first world would totally revolt to get rid of the capitalism that they like so much and benefit so much from
the unemployed, NEETs and "losers" are people who failed to function in capitalism, whether because of ability or the system doesnt matter. they're either living off welfare or parents money, either way they're part of the first world exploiting and living off the riches of the third world. no need to differentiate them

Join the Dubtrack group maybe? They should be welcoming.

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here is what you call a "moron", OP.

There are not enough job vacancies for the reserve army of labour to fill anyway.

And even if by some miracle we can get a job, why should we fight for the scraps that porky throws our way?

The modern left are cucks. Where are the far-left domestic terrorists? And you wonder why disenfranchised working-class people gravitate towards the far-right, gravitate towards ISIS. At least far-right lunatics and ISIS are blowing shit up.

glorious thread OP

If you are a third-worldist why the hell do you call yourself an MLM? MLM reject's third-worldism

did i? im using this flag because theres no third worldist flag. maoism is outdated

How can you be a a third worldist without being an maoist3Wist ?

They're akin to Holla Forums in that instead of seeing how capitalism is ruining their lives, they blame women, Jews and blacks.

Being a socdem robot is pretty lonely. The B████ ██████ fanclub on /r9k/ is very, very small. Most robots are far-right fascists who want to vote for a billionaire who thinks the federal minimum wage is too high and wants to downsize the welfare state. It makes no logical sense to me.

I hate all the SJW shit. I don't like mass immigration because it depresses wages and I don't like the idea of third-worlders coming in here consuming our resources. Downgrading our standard of living in the process. I don't want to fucking share with the third-world. My message to the third-world is to stop breeding.

NEETs hurt porky way more than you do my friend.

They did some poll on r9k and it turns out, surprise, they're all fascists. They're not gonna be on the left's side.

i am a maoist third worldist m9, but regular MLMs would reject me for being a maoist, its mostly meaningless semantics bullshit that doesnt mean anything important.

They're not Fascists.

Fascists go outside.

Not every person who falls into the category of "neet, oucast, and loser" is going to be a robot. Actually I'd say the vast majority probably aren't.

t. longtime niche forum connoisseur

lel

Maybe not every person but I'd say it's more likely.

I think it's because robots are mostly incapable of seeing beyond their immediate situation. They are being financially supported by their parents or if they are lucky, by the state. They don't think about what happens when their parents die or when the state cuts them off (which is entirely possible if Trump were to win and the Republicans sweep the House and Senate).

I hate the third-world horde coming in here depressing our wages, taking our jobs, consuming our natural resources, etc. I grew up in a first-world country. And God dammit, I want this country to remain as a first-world country.

But I also want my fucking money.

#feelthebern

That's my mentality. I don't give two shits about the socdem cucks with their SJW shit. But they are bribing me with something. The far-right isn't bribing me with jack shit. So fuck them.

what if you're a brown or black social outcast

Nobody here is arguing that you do any of that. All those concepts are outdated. Our goal is to make "wagecuckery" unnecessary through technical and political means.

How do you make paying for electricity obsolete? By designing cheaper, more efficient open-source renewable energy systems that can be installed in every home.

How do you make paying for food obsolete? By designing inexpensive, open-source hydroponics food production systems powered by solar and/or wind energy, small enough for the general public so they can fit in rooms. These can grow vegetables and beans, and you will never have to pay for groceries again. People already use hydroponics to grow marijuana in their little indoor labs, so why not extend it to food?

See youtube.com/watch?v=77wGCsVe2Ik

Define "prime years." If you think about it, it's an entirely cultural meaning. You didn't invent the concept of "prime years," your environment did. 31 is still pretty damn young by the way.

What good will that do?

Your purpose should be to educate yourself and solve problems. In order to be able to solve problems, you need to be able to understand the problems and their root causes. Figuring out solutions can be a lifelong goal. Based on what I've read from you so far, you have a severely distorted view of life, thinking it's all about mindless hedonism.

All those foods are poisonous to your body when not taken in moderation. Ideally you should avoid them completely if you want your brain and body to function optimally.

When you're busy working or studying something that you feel is important then you're less likely to waste time looking at porn or chasing after women.

Can you prove that? Of course not. You are the one who subjectively assigns value to certain activities in life. It's all in your head.

You are basing this conclusion based on a sample size of "a couple girlfriends." My advice: do not put arbitrary value to strangers. Do not expect something from other people, and that includes potential romantic or sexual relations. You should know first-hand how it feels when other people expect something from you. Expecting there to be some ideal waifu for you is like expecting God to come down and help you when in need. This romanticism is really a form of a dangerous delusion many people fall into.

Do you understand how the human brain works? Are you a scientist? It's obviously more complicated than that, and we still don't understand how the human brain works. Neurology, neurosurgery, etc. are only at their stages of infancy.

You have only experienced what you know so far. Everyone lives within their own little box.

Novelty and romanticism.

The novelty wore off.

brown and black citizens already here are being negatively impacted by mass immigration and visa workers. Many of them were born and/or raised here. The Democucks just make it into a race issue. When it's not a race issue. I don't think Donald Trump is racist at all. He's a fucking porky though who feels that the federal minimum wage is too high. lol. As much as I hate SJWs, I don't know why working-class people, especially NEETs, are voting for a fucking billionaire.

Just wait, comrade, soon social liberation shall free us all.

t. actual autist with 0 social skills and horrible anxiety that I'll write something wrong when I post

I'm in a state of apathy. Life doesn't have purpose or meaning to me anymore. I was raised to go to school, do well in school, get a job, be a good little cuck. And I wasn't happy.

When I was a child, I used to have these autistic meltdowns regularly. But as I grew up, I learned to bottle that up inside and be a good little cuck. Until I had an autistic meltdown at work a couple times. I couldn't take it anymore. I was going so crazy that I fantasized about entering my office with a AK-47 and slaying every person I saw there.

Junk food, masturbation/porn, sex, romance, etc. is really just sedation. You can add my internet addiction to that list. Vidya and animu used to be part of my sedation until that novelty wore off over time. Sedation is the only pleasure I know anymore. Luckily I'm not an alcoholic or on hardcore shit like oxycontin or meth.

And the reason why I mentioned the word "cuck" a lot is because when you're part of the precariat, you feel powerless. You feel emasculated. And you want to take that power back. ie. shooting up an office. When a porky boss or customer is pushing me around or a normie is being smug with me, I wish I could just get a baseball bat and smash them in the fucking face. Show them who is the real alpha male. Show them what real Darwinism is. No longer being able to hide behind the cops (the lapdogs of the bourgeois). Kinda similar to how Elliot Rodger was obsessed with wanting to be the alpha male. Getting his revenge.

love you tooooooo

youtube.com/watch?v=Fs7Y9ysJIHg

Comrade don't farther, I at the age of twenty-two had found out what it was like to work as a wage slave. It is the completely draining and sickening, and once I got hurt at work I was basically useless to them. Being a college student and working is what alienation from the self is like. You just go through the motions of the day, tired, exhausted, and everything seemingly bleak. I understand excatly what you mean by feeling like a social outcast, this is why we need change.

We have to remember what Marx meant about our Species-essence. By which we have meaning to our work, proud to produce it, and own it for our own labor. We cannot exclude Neets, Outcasts, or losers because in a sense, these people will be the first to want change. I believe the revolution would start with them and rise up.

Do not give up hope comrade. Once you exhaust all your hope reality comes crashing down on you. There is no need to suffer any longer, soon enough the chains of labor will be broken, and we shall unite the workers under the Red Flag of Communism.

I try not to be a neet but it's hard. I have crazy paranoia and it's hard for me to be in public without freaking the fuck out, sometimes I see people who aren't there or whatever. The only way I can get hours at work is waiting with my phone for a call for a shift to pick up, but again, paranoia. I can't shake it when my phone is near me.

Should I just an hero?

Counselling + Meds

Ok reddit you got us

No user, I hear you learn to cope better with age and we will always want you around

Eeer… Are you seeing an analyst or something?

No. I should but something stops me. I have some neato free health care I never use because medical care is spooky. (Also I'm worried about being institutionalize again, I know you have to agree usually but still.)

Thanks user

Well, a friend of mine got for a month or something. And he actually needed that month of peace and quiet…

Mental health is important too you know.
It's like one day you wake up and it hearts when you piss. You don't have to wait till you piss blood to go to the doctor…

It doesn't matter who they are under capitalism. If they want to be a NEET and abuse the concessions let them. Those will run dry one day. The rising tide of shit will separate the wheat from the chaff.

If you're a lefty NEET at least volunteer somewhere and work towards bettering yourself. You'll make friends and connections at the very least.

Seriously?
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Christianity must have you realy spooked…

Also, can we define the difference between NEET and Reserve Army of Labor?

NEETs are the revolutionary vanguard of the first world proletariat. Alienated, oppressed by heternormal patriarchy embodied for them in jocks and in the figure of Chad Thundercock, sexual frustrated, jobless, careerless and taking shit from everyone in this society, they should included in our struggle or they will be captured by the Holla Forums and end up making memes about Donald Trump.
Remember, that proletariat is not muh industrial working class – proletariat is class that doesn't have any proper place in the social body. All the people who are being necessary structurally fucked by the current system fall into it.

Nice b8 m8. 8/8.

I'm just waiting on full automation and UBI (revolution would be preferred). If everything goes to shit before that then suicide becomes an option.

I fully agree with this, and its mostly Crust Punks and other outcasts that are attracted to Libertarian Socialism for the most part, not productive people.

I understand that labour is necessary for society to function. But what pisses me off is how the people who sell their labour for a living are being ROYALLY FUCKED UP THE ASS by the people who own the means of production.

Society acts like you're supposed to be grateful for whatever job porky gives you. Even though earning $8.50/hr, 40+ hours/week is exploitative as hell.

Youtuber inmendham (who is a nihilist and anti-natalist) was right on the money when he said that rich people get rich by either exploiting labour (paying low wages) or by exploiting the consumer (charging them exorbitant prices). You can not get rich without exploitation. So this whole trickle-down economics thing is complete bullshit.

Rich people get rich on the backs of other people's labour. Whether it's the labour of their employees. Or their customers (who earned money from their own labour. And now they are cashing in that money by purchasing goods and services from you).

Unless porky's customer is a porky himself. Then Porky A is profitting off the labour of Porky B's employees/customers. It's like a huge interconnected web of people screwing each other. That's capitalism.

So true. And Holla Forums is very guilty of thinking similarly to Libertarians on many issues, I try to point this out every time I see it.

It seems the anti-nice guy phenomenon that feminists have successfully pulled off has made everyone believe that any problem a man has with women is his and his only fault, and that everything that women choose is just and falls into place perfectly.

Of course, this is very close to what porkers tell poor workers ( nationalreview.com/corner/432796/working-class-whites-have-moral-responsibilities-defense-kevin-williamson ) when their economic lives are shit.

Men and women are different. Saying a dog and a cat are two different species isn't a spook, it's biological reality.

Women are unfit to make choices for their partners in modern civilization.

Women aren't, but how are men better at doing shit then women are? In the end, porky has the last laugh.

They do, not as overtly, but if anyone, ANYONE complains about not being able to find a woman, you'll get the slew of comments coming on about being "autistic" and other self improvement vomit.

Men don't have a choice in hookup culture. It's why it needs to be ended.

For adult women to be interested in you you need to interesting to them. You are not going to become interesting to them by spending your days in your parents basements. Develop that sense of humor and work on that compassion. Again leave the basement. There are good reasons why so called "betas" have not bred themselves out of the gene pool.

Oh and get yourself a dog. Women will spontaneously stop and talk to you about the dog. And owning a dog speaks well about you.

If anyone wants to see the damage the therapeutic culture has done to the Left and to society in general this thread is Exhibit A

See? like fucking clockwerk, self improvement shit comes seeping out.

They have in places like Latin America, and believe me, it's happening right now in the West.

The reason why we have a generation of betas right now is because we've basically had hushed arranged marriage for many of the non-urban people. But that's all falling apart with mass media and globalization, and now we face a crisis.

Care to back any of those assertions up with actual data. I think some posters spend way too much time on r/mgtow. Step away from the terminal and leave the basement.

As we live in a capitalist society all that matters at the end of the day is money.
So if you have a decent job, arent to ugly, and a average sized dick, eventually you will be crawling in single mom pussy and even one day you can say "my wifes son"

We are not just a capitalistic society we have lost our working class opposition culture only to have it replaced with a culture that revolves around celebrity and individualism. Which aren't remotely adaptive in a stagnant economy.

Why do you think a girlfriend is guaranteed to make you permanently happy? Why do you view having one as your ultimate goal in life? Who is planting these ideas in your mind?

And ask yourself who benefits from you keeping yourself in a tight loop of pity, as versus doing something - anything.

David Tennant was the best Doctor BTW. He was also good in Broadchurch.

This is almost literally what I said in reply to a poster in a thread a couple days ago, and I obviously didn't get any reply.

It's a pretty naked example of a Just World Fallacy, and it almost always come from higher status individuals who speak to the experience of those that are lower status than they. Because I'm a sexless and socially outcasted male, I am pathologized in the eyes of almost every one, both rightists and leftists. It is almost implicitly assumed that my shortcomings with women are due to latent hatred of women or just plain being a loser. If I express any kind of frustration I'm further pathologized, like some sort of Eliot Rodger type.

No matter my difficulties, I find no sympathy from any of the leftists I have meant. In fact, given that I am a white cis male I get quite the opposite reaction. I get told that my lot in life is all my own fault, that I'm disgusting, and just world fallacy upon just world fallacy on top of that, and I dare not protest or even open my mouth.

I am a kissless virgin in his 20's. You may take it for granted, but I want a gf/wife so I can start my life, not so I can end it.

Would you tell a worker making minimum wage that hates his life that he's "keeping himself in a loop of pity"?

Things aren't right. We need to fix them.

So it's just sex you're after then? Typical. Earlier you advocated a state authority parcelling out women like they're simply trophies to men and dehumanized them and then you admit you just don't want to be a kissless virgin anymore?

Have you even considered more important questions like whether you'd be a good father, or whether you even have enough money saved up for a house or potential future childrens' education? Do you think you are emotionally mature enough to handle fights with your spouse? Relationships require huge amounts of work and resources. If your only question is "how much sex can I get" than you might as well go visit a damned prostitute for all the good it'll do you.

Yes *we* to fix things. We are not going to make any progress by staying in the individualist, therapeutic rut that we find ourselves in.

Having been a worker making minimum wage – and paying rent out of it – I would not tell a fellow worker that he is in a loop of pity. I would also say start living his life instead of waiting for the girlfriend/wife. Trust me getting kissed and laid will not change your life that much. And there will be stretches later when you are not being kissed and laid. Adult life is like that, in any socio-economic system.

I'm a depressed NEET faggot and I don't care about getting kissed or finding someone who will suck my dick, I want to do something that matters with my life regardless of the fact that I don't feel I have the capability to do so. Maybe when the revolution happens, I will have some use but even then that assumes I'll be able to conquer the anxiety and depression when others truly need it.

This is a horrible idea to even say any of this but I am in my late 20s and never had a job before and I don't know why. I never tried to get a license to drive and I don't know why. I don't have a clue what to do for a career because I have no single interest I want to specialize in and only that. I have a lot of interests so I don't fit in at all in this system of specialization. I don't care about riches or status or power or fame or anything like that. All I care about is wanting a girl I love that loves me too and I mean really love and I like to help people. I have considered being a psychologist in the past but because of bad experiences with them I despise their methods and I think it is wrong to take so much money from someone with problems and I just cant get myself to manage going through uni because I dont work well with the education system even though I have an above average IQ and its just so expensive and will take far too long for someone hanging on the edge like me. I have a girl I like that was in love with me but she lives in another country and things have gone to shit and only way I stand a chance to win her over again might be to move there which I want since better welfare programs and healthcare and public transport but I dont have the money to start my own business nor the educational status to take a in demand skilled job. I have been depressed for well over a decade and have had anxiety problems too. My parents are no help to me and I have no friends where I live. All of capitalist society is working against me.

I feel so sorry for you guys, holy shit.

Even 24 is considered old by some

I can't imagine not getting my license. When I first got my car, it was a huge lifestyle benefit. Having the freedom to go where I want, when I want. Not having a car is a pain in the ass for getting around. The convenience store (for when I go for my late-night NEET snacks) is a 30 minute walk from me. Instead of a 6 minute drive. Unfortunately my car is also a money pit though. That's the drawback.

I'm not sure if it's a lack of interest in driving or fear of driving. Part of it was me thinking if I didn't drive i'd save money but I guess that is a stupid idea because in the US it's the only way around anywhere.

Lel, no wonder you people are depressed and angry all the time. And why you consume 65% of anti-psychotics despite being 5% of the worlds population. You're told you only matter for about a third of your life and then you might as well kill yourself.

The only time I've ever seen leftypol act with hostility towards "these people" is when that nazi faggot comes in and starts sperging about how he should be assigned a wife, as if women were fucking commodities.

this got me wondering, wouldnt communism make it more difficult for regular folks to get chicks, since they cant accumulate wealth and compensate like before? would communism be the ultimate form of anti-beta males?

no

Communism would remove monetary concerns from the equation entirely. When there's nothing to be gained from seeking out and sleeping with a handful of rich people you could expect things to be more equal. The majority of "beta males" are poor after all. Timid people tend to have a hard time becoming rich due to avoiding conflict.

No, since no gold digging wouldnt be able to happen they would be forced to care about other things more.

not a b8, m8

They are our property m8

because most of these people belong to the far right. Go to sites like PUAhate and or r9k and you'll see what I mean

And you're my property.

Low on cash => low on education =>low on IQ + high on desperation => high on religiosity => right winger

I… I have steam… will you be my friend?

and you are mine :3

NEETs are underclass lumpencucks who deserve the gulag

okay wagecuck

Yeah we're supposed to rely on the revolutionary class consciousness of a bunch of autists who are so mentally retarded they can't even be bothered to fill out a form and get on EBT.

Declassed people are literally the worst.

You sure love that porky penis.

anarkiddie pls go

kys socdem

Yes, when I said "I want a wife so I can start my life" it means I'm just a shallow asshole who wants sex.

Can you read?

Didn't know Iain Duncan Smith Posts on 8ch.

immigrants are using up all the benefits that should be reserved for white NEETs

It IS old. Do you see how ugly people are at that age?

America tries to cover it up, by pushing all these trashy magazines with headlines like "50 ways you can have a beach body at 35!" and other denialist shit.

If there were worldwide feminist communism, the possibility of being able to marry a poor girl from the third world would be gone, so the last resort of many men would be gone. The only way of being able to get a girl is how well you can grope or grind on one at some trashy nightclub.

I don't think that's a world many on Holla Forums want to live in.

Sure! Here's my steam: steamcommunity.com/id/docwhisky/

I'm sure nothing can possibly go wrong from this! God bless!

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Why do you think you need a wife to "start your life"?

I don't see what appearance has to do with it.
You can be ugly at any age if you don't take some care of yourself.

this has been discussed on /k a few times, how to weaponize NEETs

they are a bountiful pool of manpower given the right handlers

Its like that commie pipedream of "mobilizing the criminal class" that naive, entitled yuppies like to go on about, except they arent as horribly broken as actual criminals(obviously they are a lot softer as well, but that is much easier to remedy)

its a timebomb, but a good one, lets just hope someone that isnt completely batshit gets to the majority of them first

This.

Neets are lumpen parasites, I pity them, but I don't necessarily feel for them or view them as equals.

Logic. Reason. Analysis.

keep talking like that and you might end up looking like a juicy fuckin slab of pork to some poor fellow..

ONE OF YOUR FRIENDS IS NAMED ROMMEL YOU NAZI FUCK GULAG THIS KULAK

I am pleased at your display of christian brotherly love, even if it is a small one

Oh fugg :DDDD

He's apolitical though and also a swell guy.

I wish it wasn't that way, but it's the only thing girls do. They friendzone boys if they meet them in daytime, non-sexual activities.

Because I need one to do all the fun things. The only things I can really do is "le go walk around a national park" or play video games, which gets old very quickly.

Your skin gets disgusting by the time you're 30. You can be pleasing to the eye, yes, but not really attractive.

yes I'm sure some guy working a worthless job is inherently worth more just because he's doing the artificial thing known as wage collecting.

Further proof neetsoc's are just really sexually frustrated.

If this is satire, well played. Please continue, you're the gift that keeps on giving.

How about travelling to other countries? Experiencing the natural or manmade wonders of the world? Reading intellectual books or watching lectures? Educating yourself in a philosophy or political ideology of your choice? Educating yourself about some aspect of science, like quantum mechanics or genetics? Learning a language? Reading fiction books? Reading Manga? Watching Anime? And how does playing video games in general get boring when there are thousands of them?

It's true though. You have to participate in degenerate and revolting hookup culture in order to get women. Women reject the men from their daily life.

Jokes on you, many people on Holla Forums agree with me when they're not under pressure.

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That falls under "walking around a national park"
This is what I've been doing for the past few years, but it's very tiring to be spending your youth doing this.
Most video games are grindfests not worth playing once you've played a few of them.

I feel bad because I want things to change but I'm too lazy/depressed to even go to rallies. I'm totally useless to the revolution.

No it's not you retard. You can meet girls doing all sorts of things. Hookup culture is where you don't find sustainable relationships. People just don't want a Nazi autist like you.

What the fuck kind of environment do you live in where this happens and what kind of food/drink do you consume? Oh wait, It's probably america, that's why.

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Go to war! Meet new people! Get fucked(possibly in more ways than one)

That's how men get friendzoned. You know better than this.

America is understandably shit and has terrible regulations, but 30 year olds in Europe aren't pretty either. The only place I can imagine it's not a thing is East Asia, but that's because people are much more aware of their aging and do whatever they can to stop it.

I don't claim that human nature is absolute. Female nature is, in fact, INCREDIBLY bad since their brains have not evolved past the caveman-era.

So, you're only working minimum wage or close to minimum wage? Travelling is pretty cheap these days. Perhaps a lack of money is your real problem.
Also, what are the fun things?

So you guys want to convert NEETs into socialist/communist but what about the subsegment of them that are hyperconsumerist? Don't know if they'd be welcoming of that.

reeducation camps, near-death experiences, qt swarthy moldavian partisans…there are ways

No I don't know "better than this" The times I got friend zoned it was because I didn't take care of myself or I wasn't direct in what I wanted. I started lifting and finding purpose in trying to make a music career for myself. Now I've done shit with girls and even though I'm single, I don't care. I don't need a girl to fill a hole in my life.

Stop thinking everyone is like you. Even then you very clearly have /r9k/tier depression and animosity towards women cause they won't fuck you. Newsflash: being a nazi is not attractive except to degenerate whores. I've met a lot of lefty QT's. Almost every girl I know who was QT and into politics was voting for B████.

Have you ever met a Nazi in real life? Holy fuck they're autistic. The two people I know who are holocaust deniers: one literally has some sort of social disorder, and the other one is a recluse who spends all his time smokin weed.

Maybe the issue is that you don't respect women as human beings and thus, they don't want to waste any time with you?

You're probably ugly

You say you read books. Why not throw in something introductory on dialectical materialism and you know maybe try to understand things.

If you read any book on the brain, the evolution follows a general patter. The most developed part so far starts to enlarge and grows. This change in quantity gives a change in quality as a part of the evolving brain differentiates itself. And then this next one starts to grow and increase in size and complexity.

One could say that the brain did not evolve rapidly since the cavemen era, there are only slow gradual improvements depending on the environment.

The clearest example of this are the Ashkenazi jews, as they have the highest average intelligence. They lived in Europe and were confined to be merchants and bankers in middle ages. Those most successful, meaning the smartest, were most rich and they had the most children.

So slowly in time there was selection of smartness, because the smartest had the most children.
So they became smarter than their same semitic cousins stuck in Palestine.

Regarding your statement about women, so you are saying that they magically discard all information about the current material reality and instead they judge men as potential mates based on obsolete criteria no longer relevant in modern society? Haha you are a funny man.

Anime subculture isn't really any more materialistic then people in general.

I don't know if I should feel pity or not.

Strawman. Having a collection of figures doesn't mean that one's "entire identity is tied to thier collection of products".

Nah, they evolved exactly the way they needed to. To go for the alpha males so they can get the best genes for their offspring. You are not this alpha make and so you and your genes have not been selected to take part in the gene pool. Too bad, so sad.

And if you're a 30 year old and a disgusting freak who can't take care of himself, don't try to bring down others to your level so you can feel better about it.

Drop the flag, fag

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You are scum. You like the riches the exploitation of 3rd world countries generate to you but when their place get's so fucked by the exploitation you enjoy that they flee seeking a better place and come to your country, you shun them and don't want to have any of it. You're a piece of shit, you know?

Your mentality isn't different at all from theirs. You just have a different excuse to it.

When anime figures are the only thing you spend money on, you aren't any more or less consumerist than the rest of the population.

Spooky

This guy gets it.

If we are going into spooks, you spooked first. It's not your resources nor your standard of living.

NEETS would make terrible citizens in socialist state. They want to alienate themselves form all of society and I don`t think they could ever view work as their duty towards the greater good of the collective.

This.

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I don't tell people I'm a NationaI Socialist in real life you idiot. I avoid talks of politics like the plague.

Have you seen women? Go look at what they do in nightclubs. They want men to show sexual dominance over eachother and choose the one that they perceive to be the most "alpha"

It's completely barbaric and disgusting.

See pic

And I'm only 21.

Socialism =/= Communism

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And you show lack of knowledge in both of them

Form each according to their ability(willing or not) to each according to their needs, comrade.

Lol what a joke. You faggots insist on using human nature to shut down any opposition but when it comes to finding a mate, suddenly you choke and institute some mental masturbation to justify why you "deserve" to have your special snowflake genes spread.

I don't know. I'm pretty broken id say.

Pure revisionism

Force is necessary evil to carry out our revolutionary goals, are you some type of pacifist or NAP believing anarcho-capitalist?

Just die a virgin. I don't want to live in a world where people like you breed.

Stop associating me with Holla Forums, I disagree with them a lot. It'd be like if I just said every communist is a SJW.

We're on the same team, aren't we? Don't we want a better future?

[SPOOK]`re on the same [SPOOK] aren`t [SPOOK]? Don`t [SPOOK] want a better [SPOOK]?

HAHAHAHAH
Are you serious? That's not how it works faggots. It's not "le big black niggger dick taking away the white girlies". White people get girls all the time. Just because you're inferior to a nigger doesn't mean everyone is in the same boat as you are. Girls go to a club to get fucked up and party. Guys do it to. Guys go there and act like complete total ass wipes. I don't like clubs, but they're by no means the only way to meet girls.

Will Durant isn't an evolutionary biologist.

We wouldn't associate you with Holla Forums if you weren't espousing their rhetoric word for word.

And btw, we're aren't on your team. The USSR didn't discriminate based on your race and neither do we. If we had our way, you wouldn't exist.

NEET for 12 years here. I have little hope in potential among people like me. 12 years of absolute disconnection does a lot to someone; being legally dependent on the system basically makes escape an impossibility.

In the event of a revolution, basically every side will want to kill us without asking a question. There are enough people on both sides to easily discard us.

It is already happening. People like me have been rounded up and forced into assisted living arrangements which work as profit-extracting prisons. It almost happened to me, and I learned quickly that I really have no legal defense when it happens. I only managed to dodge this because I had family willing to make a scene about it, and it took mine and my family's limited savings to survive - all because porky decides they want to harass me.

So yeah, there is no hope. I've seen what happens to men and women who are pushed into these nightmares. Most have the sense to suicide before letting that happen.

You're a special kind of retard, aren't you?

Happiness is not a spook though.

YOU TOO CAN BE REBUILT

What draws NEETs to facism over the radical left?

Big strong men.

order, purpose, a place in the world.

left used to be much better at conveying this, you know, solidarity and all that

possibly also this

I never said that. I merely stated that they might be bad citizenry for the socialist state if their alienation is not simply caused by conditions of capitalism but also by their own lack of will towards the greater good and the collective.

thanks, but no tanks

Maybe it's a feeling of emasculation? Fascism makes all sorts of vague promises laced with machismo. I myself being both a NEET and a nascent fascist at one time, I didn't do a whole lot of reading or thought, but I felt that I needed to reclaim or assert my masculinity in order to survive.

Not to mention a lot of what I thought was the left was actually idpol. There was some blog post on tumblr that I don't have anymore that summed up how idpol affected me emotionally at the time. That post basically said that feminism couldn't do anything for depressed males with no self-esteem that it could only take from their sense of self-worth.

(I will assume that you are referring to NationaI Socialism when you say Fascism, though I disagree with the wording)
The wish for a gf.

Feminism = anti non-macho male.

Under a truly feminist communist society, NEETdom and inceldom would get hell of a lot worse.

Under my NationaI Socialism, we'd all have assigned gfs by the government.

All alienation stems from capitalism and material conditions, you moron.

Good luck getting that kektopia built when you alienate 50% of the population from the outset by treating them as little more than commodities.

I saw your earlier post about the just world fallacy. But that isn't really true. I used to not take care of myself and complain about girls. Focus on yourself and you'll be able to maneuver things better. You'll find a girl. Financial security is important for a girl unfortunately. No one wants to live with a guy and his parents. You need to find something you like and become the prole. Or if you have your own place, start working out and just be more social. I'm not even in a higher bracket, I'm like one or two above NEET level. It's not impossible to get there by any means.

You have a meme tier understanding of feminism friend.

Yeah, because women totally fight back, rather than just asking men to do the things they want for them.

Considering you're a virgin they're fighting back pretty well.

I'm glad I don't think like you holy fuck

Maybe they are just good at running.

If this is your understanding of what women do why do you even want a wife? You'll just be a slave according to your own logic.

And that's another thing we need to put an end to. Girls running away from me.

How many woman have asked you?

It's in human biology that you need a wife to be happy.

I just want a patriarchy is all.

I am a gentleman who follows the law and doesn't defile another man's future wife. I set the example for what a man should be, and if everyone copied what I did, society would be a lot better.

Anyway fun fact: a lot of the Nihilist revolutionaries in Russia were woman. There were entire secret societies of woman and they were way more violent than the me. One of them killed a high ranking Russian official, can't remember who.

men*

You also think woman are worth less than men, and you want to deport all the non-whites. Even if you could get a girl to talk to you, we both know you'd most likely have to lie about who you are inside. Politics are deeply tied to moral convictions.

kek says who?

I've never been part of any crowd.
I look at this world and the games the bourgeoisie play with the landless masses and anger and contempt consume me.

Who do they think will be the first to sign up for the revolution?
The class traitors who wish they were the masters on the neverending slavery?
The mindless and careless children who believe not having offspring is good?
The submission fetishists that want gun control and a ban on any kind of offensive words?

It will be those who have been thrown aside from the cyclical self flagellation of society.
Those who kept themselves from becoming tools to the very system they hate.
The countless people who have found nothing but betrayal and dishonesty.
Every filthy liar must be removed.

Some cringemaster stuff fam.

Thank god it's a troll!

It's a matter of expense, inefficiency and insufficient scale to support one's self.
Economies of scale are vitally crucial to modern agriculture bruh. Subsistence farming even with sophisticated technology just isn't worth it.
[Citation needed]

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What a rapid response Holla Forums friend!

No problem fellow friend.

Most modern food production that reaches american shelves is indeed not so great for you. Any regular amounts of soy or high fructose corn syrup are bad for you .

Some people really shouldn't have children, they're not fit to raise them. I don't know why Holla Forumslacks foam at the mouth at such an idea.

Well, first of all I'm not delusional and sexist like the Nazi shitposter in that I think that I am owed a woman or that they are wrong to not find me attractive. Quite the contrary, if I were a woman I certainly wouldn't date me either. I don't idealize love and relationships as somehow separate from economic and material circumstances.

I just chafe a bit at some of the advice that I typically get. That the prospects of 'being more social' are pretty scant given that I literally live in the middle of the woods and am not neuro-typical. Compounding this is the fact that the only people who seem to share my difficulties are other NEET types, and while they empathize with me on the one hand, they then tend to spout MRA, R9K, or incel shit in the very next breath. Which brings me to my final point.

What pissed me off enough to post about this in the first place was what I said in regards to what I saw posted by a self-proclaimed Marxist-feminist user and that I often see throughout leftist sites. That frustrated guys wouldn't have such troubles if they stopped calling women sluts or having 'gross' views about women. That they would assume that about me is stereotyping and it assumes that I have no principles and that I'm almost inherently reactionary. Even 'normies' have views akin to these, that a sexless male is a school shooter waiting to happen or is some kind of psychopath. It professes to know my thinking, it pigeonholes me, and it drives me up the fucking wall.

There's a post about this issue that I largely agree with that is more eloquent here; slatestarcodex.com/2014/08/31/radicalizing-the-romanceless/

Sorry for blogging.

It will be the senior members of the vanguard party who have proven their loyalty to their ideals for years.

Everyone should have children. Anyone intelligent enough to understand the consequences of their actions is not the "bottom of the barrel" anyway.
I don't believe in eugenics the way you do.

"Loyalty" is often mispronounced as "obedience"
So, unless you clarify, probably not.

Spooky

Let me rephrase;
People should have the choice to have children and not antagonize for not having any.

People constantly antagonize for having them. So that perspective makes no sense.

There can be no form of eugenics which is not negative eugenics. That's the nature of the beast.

Any proper revolution would abolish eugenic beliefs as irrational and evil.

It can be also caused by lack of will.

Why the hell then would you ever advocate for leftist politics if you don`t think it is the moral thing to do?

Eugenics is the idea that a centralized body can decide for others what is precious.
Any living thing can instantly perceive this as the opposite of life, a foreign power controlling a thing instead of the thing itself?

Morality and the semantics of ethics are rather inconsequential when the pressing matters of survival and ascension are in question.

For individual like yourself it would not be in your direct self-interest to fight against capitalism, since you are benifictionary of it.

And you think the reverse doesn't happen? Men and women being told their man children and fear commitment by their partners, family and friends because they don't want to marry and have children?

Because i want to live in a different kind of society then the one that currently exists. Not that difficult to understand. It has nothing to do with morality or "the greater good".

The same people who post unironically in topics like this are the same who moan ceaseless and repetitive and unending about identity in leftism.

Your point being?

My point is clear. It takes a fool not to understand.

Great argument, oh intelligent one.

Far less smart than asking what point is being on the hypocrisy of being infuriating over a minority for espousing what a majority already acts; that either knows, or does not know, that it engages with it.

It's a socioeconomic fact.

If you don't mean that, either see beyond your ideology, or make your point clearer for us filthy cis white males.

[Citation needed]
It is unlikely HFCS has any unique health risks beyond those of added sugar in general en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High_fructose_corn_syrup#Health

I mean, I appreciate the honest dig at SJWism, but this reeks of kneejerk rationalization for an obviously flawed paradigm. A lot of people need to backtrack at least to Foucault.

The vast fucking majority of people have no and can be called upon to express no "will towards the greater collective." The key is to alter the basic material factors that incentivize and require people to sacrifice welfare of others for self-interest, survival and security. That is, to institute a society where free advancement of each is the condition for free advancement of all.

This has been my experience. My own social limitations have been ruthlessly pathologized; I've had "concern" used as a cudgel against me multiple times. It's certainly the just world fallacy. Accepting that not all outcomes are fully deserved sets a frightfully dangerous precedent for most. It opens them up to the idea that their own successes, comfort and personhood are built on a sand foundation which could give way at any time without warning or justification. That we are counterexamples is why we are doubly despised, for we are walking assaults on their emotional comfort, cognitive dissonance and projected insecurity given form. How it feels "the world" treats us is much the same as how we are ourselves perceived to act.
This is somewhat similar to the psychology of religious fundamentalism. The relationship with God is a dynamic relationship with the subconscious, with various aspects of one's own identity. For instance, lines such as "Why do you reject God?" betray that non-belief implies a rejection of precisely this identity
While we are among the hardest hit by capitalism, our problems do not trace to material conditions, beyond those of human biology. We would face similar problems in a socialist world. Elementary and middle school were especially shitty, and the most remote from capitalist material self-justification. The cultural superstructure around it (authoritarianism, bureaucracy) likely has something to do with it, but is far from a complete explanation. I had some serious ambitions and abilities, got torn down and apart in multiple areas/ways and there's nothing to suggest I wouldn't have gotten the same in a post-capitalist world. But Marxism is the most scientific way to improve things tbh

Yet more linguistic juggling the pomos are famous for
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Equivocation
For your benefit, anfem-san

Where did I mention the socioeconomic?

I'll start when you stop assuming I believe certain things to use them as insults. Identity is not free from your own argument, so if we're going to debate this, first you must strip yourself from it.

I actually never suggested any of that. I suggest something else entirely.

That you work to protect a larger sense of identity within yourself because of the social conditions on image boards, particularly this one. You want its members to conform to a certain set of guidelines saying that it's without identity, to protect identity, when you are far from regularly enforcing the other guidelines. By focusing entirely upon identity rather than the whole picture, you fail to see that your respect for other portion in argument on Holla Forums are largely ignored.

Among other reasons I find this the most damning this place is a haven for identity without calling it identity. Another leftist circle unwilling to debate or see past identity and social circumstance, while arguing tooth and nail and claw it is quite the opposite.

This is the same board that unironically posts that "what is a nation? Show me a nation" yet never ponder you can do exactly that with class.

It's Holla Forums, we replace righty spook with lefty spook.

I did.
I assumed you said "NEET is an identity". Greentexted it. Then stated my opinion.

I though this would be clear to someone as inteligent as you…

Or could it be we are not communicating well enough? Hmm…

So, socioeconomic situations and class = identity?
I choose to identify as a worker? It's not that I am a worker that makes me one?
Or is the "identity" the fact that I am class con about it and prioritize it when it comes to politics?

If Proletariat is an identity… Ok. Sure.
Then it is the only one that can erase sexism, racism and every form of discrimination.

A nation state has a clear definition of what it is.

Stop strawmaning.

Identity on an anonymous image board occurs through its opposite.

The irony of someone using a flag to make a point about identity seems to be lost on you.

Definition does not a real thing make.

In some cases, yes, in others no. Context depending.

No. Never suggested as such.

No. Never suggested as such.

Again. No, never suggested as such.

You really aren't seeing my point about the development of emotional attachment on identity on message boards and Holla Forums proving a greater point about its argument against it. I'm suggesting arguing against identity to come up with alternative to it creates an identity to rally behind. Among others.

You fail to understand my point.

Ultimately the irony seems to be lost upon you.

I don't think I have friend.

You're deliberately misinterpreting anything that contests your personal view. Reread the post and try again!

YES! NOW THAT IS A POINT!

This is actually the human need to belong in a group and is no different than supporting a sports team or voting for a party.

Now, are we to make our support of football (soccer does not exist) team X into a political movement?

Why then is the "problems" of women in US turned into a politicall movement?
I'd get it if it was part of a greater platform… But and identity as a cause for political movents .. . eeeer…

That you did not, like the dog that failed to bark in the night, is precisely the problem

You're deliberately misinterpreting anything that contests your personal view. Reread the post and try again!

Deliberate misconstruing of my point. Everything is political here. The primary argument against identity politics is not arguing over football teams, what a bizarre analogy.

Because they are largely political in nature. They are not "like football", any more than what this board currently engages in with identity, is "like football".

You're suggesting identity is a problem. If it is a problem why does it seem to be so hard to get rid of here, or so easy to become ignorable and associated with greater class struggle?

There's more problems here than there are otherwise you're afraid of. Threads like this about creating sub-identity of the disenfranchised are just all the more evidence identity politics beyond the bubble is awful, but within is acceptable.

Are you accusing me of not talking about the socioeconomic problems in an argument unrelated to them? This thread, is unrelated to them largely. These posts are about something else, do not put accusatory tone with me that I am somehow "less marxist" for engaging, at least according, in the same very things you engage in, but do not recall.

>See youtube.com/watch?v=77wGCsVe2Ik
Watch at 1:06:10. It's hilarious that this guy doesn't realize that he's basicaly describing libertarian communism.

The moment you unpack your personal brand of what identity is it falls out of scope within the context of an image board.

So you can run through this:

Absolutizing identity by inverting it as it occurs through discussion
Only reaffirms the original criticisms as it was made:

Which is why there's no basis for:
What you take as a guideline is a reduction of discourse to whichever excellent you want to relativese it to. So that
In actuality reduces the scope of the argument by doing so.

Which is why this is your conclusion:

In actuality, what's occurring within this thread happens outside of that god-awful bubble you despise. You're projecting your own critiques onto something that isn't there.

problematic*

Explain how it does?

The identity here is an undisclosed absolute as long as it is not debated and discussed.

Wrong again. I'm not reducing discourse at all, nor am I suggesting anyone do it. I'm saying you're not free of identity, regardless if you're open about it or shove it under the rug; the latter being most common.

My argument doesn't need to be "reduced in scope", whatever that pointless nonsense means. It's direct. You are responsible for the identity undiscussed within communities, especially on image boards. The problem is that it gets to a point here where screaming about identity politics becomes a hilarious game in irony and scapegoating.

These image boards are not real life nor do they have the same conditions as them. The flesh is different, as is context based upon location.

Holla Forums is not free from its own context, of where it is, and who posts within it.

Disclosing your idea through debate absolutizes it in critique without questioning it. Hence it is also undisclosed.

That's why you can make statements like
And

A reduction occurs through abstraction of the topic into critique, without demonstration outside itself of this occurring.
Something which is pretty blatant in:

This is pointless. You may as well be arguing that the posters here are no freer from air, and as such, are indebted to some mythical original sin by virtue of their breathing. And that when someone discusses breathing as it occurs, they fall into that fatal trap of having to respond to you.

Again, this is nowhere near what I'm arguing. Your offense is more arguing than my own argument.

It's not really offence. It's just tiring responding to you trying to exact from your statements the basic and fundamental criticism that you place in an overhead the same topic of conversation you so radically want to critique.

Which is why "this is isn't what you are arguing" in so far as you have the capacity to disagree with formulations of your own posts.

Consider identity as it occurs in its real material basis.

People who shit on those capitalism is already disposing of have no place on the left. Whenever someone does it it's very telling of their political leanings and whose side they're on.

I want you to kill yourself as hard as you can.

The third quote wasn't me though

Ah yes, I see, this changes everything.

This entire existence has been suffering