Ever get fed up of finding out that people you trusted and thought were on your side are lying to you?

Ever get fed up of finding out that people you trusted and thought were on your side are lying to you?

"Cultural Marxism is a consipiracy theory!"

Then someone on the right pulls out this link in a debate: dukeupress.edu/jameson-on-jameson

So Holla Forums are telling the truth yet again, just like with the paedophilia in the British political establishment and paedophile gangs being allowed to run havoc in Rotherham and some other instances that I remember vaguely, my supposed allies on the left have lied to me again.

I'm sick of this shit. Utterly sick of it. The left is just lies and bullshit to me now.

Other urls found in this thread:

youtube.com/watch?v=3rsJOsXm6ew
allenmendenhallblog.com/2013/01/23/fredric-jameson-and-why-postmodernism-is-an-enemy-of-marxism/
amazon.com/Peculiar-Sex-Life-Adolf-Hitler-ebook/dp/B01B9XNJPO
twitter.com/SFWRedditImages

You're going to have to do better thab that. First define "cultural marxism" as a regular Holla Forums user would and then read the summary of the book in question. If you're completely 100% honest the two will not be the same.

*than

Fugging phone

I'm not interested in persuading you of anything.

"Cultural Marxism" exist but it's not what Holla Forums thinks it is. It's theories by these guys from the Frankfurt school about how the proletariat would create their own culture to take the place of the bourgeoisie. It isn't cultural egalitarianism where everyone is the same race and has the same technology and no one is better than each other.

Because you're being disingenuous. I don't like Bolsheviks either but I don't have to pretend that Marxists have a worldwide global conspiracy keeping everyone under control.

Go away Holla Forums

Stop digging.

You won't like what you find.

Top kek

"Interested" or not, if you had a sufficiently compelling argument it would take next to no effort to repeat it here. Obviously, you don't.

lmao are you the guy who's been shitposting in this place non-stop about le cultural marxism maymay got the past year, then kept telling us we're "defensive" whenever we disprove your bullshit claims? if that's you, you should remember we've literally linked that jameson book to you in PDF form. multiple times. to show you the only existing instance where "cultural marxism" is uttered unironically by a marxist thinker. and, you know, how it's a term meant to signify analysis of culture utilizing dialcectical materialism (AKA marxism). we exchanged multiple snippets of the text, the preface and summary and then you suddenly disappeared, probably because you realized you couldn't pull a crocker v.Holla Forums and shout "LEFTIST CONTROL OVER MUH CULTURE". i once again challenege you to actually read the book, which you can do in its entirety, either on that very URL you linked, or here free of charge in document related, just for you.

Call me what you like. tbh, digging out the Malik El-Shabazz and going full Islamist is looking tasty right now. If it makes you happy to scream that I'm one of those nazis though, go for it.

Did you read the book then, or just see the title?

Fredric Jameson's a Marxist ffs.

He only saw the title. He's pic related.

Okay m8 first of all I can't scream we're on the internet :^)

Second of all please highlight where I said the word "nazi" in that post

Wait a minute guys I found this video that proves everything. The 60s and 70s weren't a time of huge revolution because the emptiness of American consumer culture, outdated Christian values, and Puritan work ethic, it was because a bunch of Jews infiltrated American academia (which was so pure before kek) and gave them drugs whilst saying they should fuck alot!

Here is the proof, Gramsci said so himself kek:

youtube.com/watch?v=3rsJOsXm6ew

If you want to tell that screaming "Holla Forums" at me isn't meant to decry me as a nazi, whatever, but that's quite obviously more bullshit.

well sheeeeet.

Holla Forums!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Read the book you linked. Jameson's a good writer, you might learn something.

He won't read because reading the book will force him to admit he's retarded and thus he will be ashamed he even made this thread.

I read his bio, he's obviously a post-structuralist. Into the trash as far as I'm concerned. Insult me all you like.

wew lad.

That's a great intellectual position to take, sure to expand your horizons and enable you to actually argue your case.

cont.

Also, characterising Jameson as a poststructuralist is a unique position to take, given so much of his works deal with critiques of postmodernism.

allenmendenhallblog.com/2013/01/23/fredric-jameson-and-why-postmodernism-is-an-enemy-of-marxism/

Yeah, only retards read books.

I have a limited lifespan, I have better things to do than waste it reading things I already know I disagree with the theoretical underpinnings of. I have better things to do with my time. If you don't, I pity you.

LOL

Define Post Structualism and elaborate on why it's bad using your own words without resorting to wikipedia. Then define ""cultural marxism""" and how it relates to anything you just said.

I'm waiting…

If you think Jameson's a poststructuralist, you're wrong (see ), and should definitely read his works.
Stop jacking off and spend more time reading then. I've read Nietzsche and Evola, even if I fundamentally disagree with them, but it's useful to actually understand opposing view points.

There must be a link between communism and taking b8s
I mean look at this thread

At a rough guess, I currently have about 600+ pages of the Qu'ran, 500+ pages of fitness material, 400+ pages of chess texts and 4000+ pages of science and technology material to read. So, no, especially given you're representing a political grouping that have repeatedly lied to me.

At a rough guess, I currently have about 600+ pages of the Qu'ran, 500+ pages of fitness material, 400+ pages of chess texts and 4000+ pages of science and technology material to read.
Great. After you've done those, you can get round to reading the book you're misrepresenting then :^).
I don't represent anyone but myself.

what the fuck leftypol

So if you won't even make your own case that just proves that others are lying to you when they refuse to engage with you?

OP, don't take this the wrong way, but I can't even conceive what it's like to be as dumb as you seem right now.

I MEAN C'MON

IT'S 2016

Y'all too optimistic

Then don't try and debate politics, lad.

What's the point of arguing with a pack of liars?

getting some pretty funny quotes out of Holla Forums tbh.

didn't sage, for shame

fucking hell man

this guy gets it.

What the point of replying if you don't want to argue?

Good luck with that revolution.

kek

To see further evidence of what a bunch of dishonest scumbags I've been hanging around with. That way I won't doubt my decision to abandon the socialist upbringing I was given.

Just stop please. An economics thread will get like 100 replies and a Holla Forumsyp espousing verbal diarrhea will get 300.

But user, you are being dishonest. You came in here expecting to BTFO everyone with a random book that you haven't even read, and when asked for proof/evidence inside the book of the cultural Marxist conspiracy, you dismiss it and claim you have no interest in reading. That is the height of intellectual dishonesty and no one else is fooled by your abhorrent attempt to portray it as anything otherwise.

Keep digging.

fundamentally, Holla Forums prefers arguing with fascists than with each other.

what do you mean by cultural marxism?
how can the book prove cultural marxism means what you think it means if you've not read it?

I don't care what it fucking means, you arsehead. It's not supposed to fucking exist, is it?

If it means 'a Marxist analysis of culture' then yes it does exist.

If it means, 'jewish conspiracy to subvert the white race' then it doesn't exist.

Definitions matter famalam.

The conspiracy theory that puts Jews in a secret cultural subversion mission against the west known as "cultural Marxism"? I like not to think so, no.

The application of dialectical materialism (Marxism) to cultural phenomena in an attempt to analyze them as a "cultural Marxism", also known as critical theory? Yes it does. Read the book you gratuitously linked to us and find out more, comrade.

But user, what it fucking means matters, because by how you define it it doesn't exist.

If you say cultural marxism is a global conspiracy to destroy the white race, spread gay + feminist thought, etc. etc. It doesn't exist and reading this book proves it. This is what you've repeatedly failed to get throughout the entire thread.

No-one bought it when Obi-wan pulled that shit on Luke Skywalker. Your "definitions" crap is just you excusing yourself for outright lying.

this has got to be some of the best bait ever.

This is what i love about Holla Forums, instead of arguing "you are wrong, and here is why" they straight call people liars and members of a worldwide conspiracy.

Except Obi-Wan was right you fucking tard.

Then what's your definition?

People in this thread are now trying to claim that idiots stating "A Cube is a 5 sided polygon" is a fit excuse for dishonestly claiming "No, cubes do not exist".

Which way to the nearest ISIS recruiter, please?

Then what's your definition?

He won't define it, just like how he won't define Post Structualist or explain why it's evil, because all he's been fed is Holla Forums memes and he doesn't want to admit it.

See

So cultural marxist exists now, but it's not what Holla Forums thinks it is!

God, Holla Forums is such shit.

I found a book called "Hitler and Tyrone: a love story".

I think it means Hitler just loved the big black cock. Just like every pollyp,

Is neither a cultural phenomenon nor has anything to do with marxism.

Amazon link, plz.

Please post said book, please.

Read this thread, it does, but it's good and unlike Holla Forums's definition actually.

amazon.com/Peculiar-Sex-Life-Adolf-Hitler-ebook/dp/B01B9XNJPO

TOP KEK

I was making a sarcastic joke, but apparently it wasn't.

There ain't no interracial in there.

Boomer!

I hope its true.

Chapter 6: Landsberg Love Triangle
Bisexual bodyguards; casual gay lovers; only one testicle; my splendid Maurice; sex with Rudolf Hess; Mein Kampf; increasing aspirations

TOP KEK HITLER WAS GAY

See how stupid your train of logic is OP? Except it's even worse since you haven't even bothered to read the chapter titles of the book you supposedly hate. I actually downloaded the pdf here

"cultural marxism" is mentioned twice; both times only referring to the title of the book on the first page and the last

kys asap

That was the conclusion of the OSS psychological evaluation, yes.

Except that's wrong:

">[t]he belief that Hitler is homosexual has probably developed (a) from the fact that he does show so many feminine characteristics, and (b) from the fact that there were so many homosexuals in the Party during the early days and many continue to occupy important positions. It is probably true that Hitler calls Foerster "Bubi", which is a common nickname employed by homosexuals in addressing their partners.
==This alone, however, is not adequate proof that he has actually indulged in homosexual practices with Foerster, who is known to be a homosexual.==[15]"

Yes, but, did they wear the pink triangle?

KEK.

So this is the book you'll bother reading?

Obi-Wan lied to Luke and incompetently tried to deny it.