How about you retards stop fucking up my orders before we pay you 15 bucks an hour?

How about you retards stop fucking up my orders before we pay you 15 bucks an hour?

Why should you get an increase in salary when you can't even prepare a burger how I like it?

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/liberal/ is that way, my dear Holla Forumsyp.

Not an argument

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Give us the money we deserve and we might do it. I'll even stop spitting on your food for $15/h

It's a capitalist concession to ease class tension. While it might be a temporary relief for the worker it doesn't solve their problem. It's certainly not anti-capitalist.

lol

How about you graduate high school?

Look, just stop frequenting places with Mexican men cooking the food.

And don't support Armenian restaurants.

Maybe get to know the people and become a regular there.

If wages and earnings were calibrated according to how hard your job is, the bourgeoisie wouldn't exist.

we need moh money for dem cultural marxist programs

dats right

If it's so damn easy, cook your own at home. Eliminate the need for such jobs.

Then why not find a job that pays more, retard?

Though, I guess I'm somewhat a regular.

I like to go to a new McDonalds every month order something relatively in-depth, like a burger with no salt but with a spec of pepper, no tomato, lettuce, and no mayo.

When they fuck up I go in there and scold all the niggers and spics, but in such a way I can't get kicked out for a scene.

Then I say "You idiots want a raise in your salary for what you do? Fine" whip out a hundred dollar bill(yes, those exist), tear it into little pieces, and place it on the counter saying "A hundred dollars for everyone."

(I actually stopped doing this cause I get a hardon every time)

shit I don't know how come nobody has ever thought about this

Do you leave notes on napkins saying you won't tip because they've voted for Obama as well?

took me way longer than I should to realise this guy was fucking with us

sorry, everybody

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See, with major chains you can make complaints to the management or the head office, then get free shit and coupons. They will generally give something back to makeup for a mistake, if it will shut you up.

If ever you lose your temper, you can go in regularly, buy a small meal, give it to a homeless person, and use the code on the receipt to make a complaint.

Continue registering complaints, and it will cause them bedlam.


Mexican men burn my eggs, I only trust Mexican women now to make my food correctly.

Armenians are crazy assholes. Burned my food but made me laugh.

I know this is bait, but I run into this mentality quite a bit from workers themselves. These people are so fucking alienated because they're totally aware how fucking useless thier labor is.

Was talking to this black dude that works for fight for 15 on the bus the other day, and he told me that by far the most insurmountable obstacle in his struggle was not convincing the companies that workers deserve 15 bucks an hour, but convincing the workers themselves they're deserving of it

most minimum wage workers are college age

Where's the proofs jimmy?

Why don't """you""" pay """us""" $15 an hour before wanting """us""" to serve """you""" with quality?

it's not a formatting error, it's just that there is no "us" and "you", just OP with the us vs. them mentality

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Shift key broke?

stop eating there then fatass

You sounded like a neckbearded loser.

No, did you read the spoiler?

Kill yourself. I bet you work some shitty advertising job where you sit in a room all day coming up with shitty jokes to put into shitty commercials for shitty products.

Don't even bother.
I bet that niggah don't even own the means of production.

The $15/hour is to stop me rubbing my dick on your food.

Am I the only one who doesn't get the
meme?

The worst thing that's ever happened to me is they forgot the barbecue sauce.

I was calling for a higher minimum wage + shorter work week (so that NEETs like us have a chance to even get a job now) in another thread. But was accused of "asking for government handouts". Probably because I'm a NEET and this colours peoples' bias.

But now Holla Forums is on board with a minimum wage increase.

Which is it?

Shit my local fast food gave me the guy in front of me's order for free cause he left the line before he got to the drive through

Or perhaps your order is fucked up because the people taking it are overworked, underpaid and separated (alienated) from their labor. Would you give a fuck about the food of some random asshole barking at you through a box?>>808112
Oh, a Holla Forumsyp troll.
Neat.

Who are you talking to?

but muh corporatism, but muh cronyism therefore that's wrong.

seriously that is what they will say

It's also worth noting that a lot of fast food wage slaves are in fear of losing their jobs constantly. Because they are easily expendable. There's a huge reserve army of labour ready to take their place.

And yet when someone like me is like "fuck that, I don't want to beg for scraps", we're called lazy. Even by fellow leftists on Holla Forums.

And yet leftists here wonder why lumpens vote for Donald Trump. Whose actually pretending to want to create jobs for the chronically unemployed.

"People who can't do things don't deserve to be able to survive".

Learn to into veil of ignorance.

How about you stop shopping at McDonald's if you want good service. This is capitalism, pull up your bootstraps and earn more money to pay for better service, loser

Increase in wages has been shown to directly improve efficiency of menial and mechanical labor. For administrative and managerial "labor", not so much. youtube.com/watch?v=u6XAPnuFjJc

If you want to oil an economic system based on wage labor (capitalism) into functioning as functionally as possible, consider increasing minimum wage accordingly, although I'd rather just advance past an economic system based on wage labor (e.g. socialism) myself tbh…

Nope. That's why it's funny.

Yea a lot of the whiny ass demanding customers are really just proles who are fed up with their own jobs and hate their own life and they just want to make someone else's life miserable.

This is why I refuse to work in customer service anymore.

The last time I worked in customer service, I was self-employed. And a customer was being a douche. So I threatened to dox him online and that set him straight. lol.

Things are so much better when you own the means of your production.

Give and take, OP. Give and take.

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Huh.

*terrible

Well, not wanting to work is laziness. I say work and help other proles understand how they're being fucked by porky.
That carnation fist flag though.

Even more money to spend time learning how Kierkegaard surpassed Stirner :^)

Useful things aren't often useful for extracting surplus value.

How are we supposed to get jobs? 13.5% of men my age are not employed here. 19.5% don't have full-time jobs.

If you look at the actual employment rate and not the bullshit official unemployment rate, I bet you'll find similar statistics or worse for lots of places in the United states.

It doesn't make sense to jump through hoops for scraps that aren't even guaranteed.

And people will say "bud dats gabidalism doh :^)" when your self employed and own your own means of production. There should be a top ten list of things people they do that is socialist any they don't even know it.

Good point.
I'm fortunate to live in a place where there's plenty of shitty jobs to go around.
How do you even survive? I don't know what I'd do if I couldn't go slave in a factory for porky.

Seconded

Unfortunately there are a lot of obstacles to self-employment these days. I had to eventually quit basically even though I was making some money. Because if you receive e-mail money transfers or cash deposits daily, the bank thinks you're a money launderer and wants to shut your bank account down because they perceive you to be high risk for money laundering or fraud. You may ask "why not take credit or debit card then?" But most of our customers are assholes who chargeback. And the banks always side with the buyer, not the merchant.

It's fucking bullshit.

I am seriously thinking about taking up Texas Holdem Poker as a way to make money. It's either that or day trading I guess. You need a shit load of capital these days in order to run a convenience store or something. And there's no guarantee of making money. I'm running out of options. I only play for fun now. But it's not exactly easy. Even when I play tight pre-flop, it's very easy to lose a lot of money if the community cards don't help you and you don't know when to fold.

your elitism is ironic.

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This board is doomed.

We're all doomed.
I wonder if other sapient species in the galaxy have drowned in their own stupid a few centuries after achieving industrialism. Von Neumann probes will reach Earth thousands of years from now and find evidence of how the humans destroyed themselves with rightist bullshit.

We're so used to having dissenting opinions and people making shitty arguments that we feel the need to respond because it's a way to vent our anger at the insanity that is the current human condition.

Also, I like debating. With it, at least some people will figure out what the fuck socialism actually means. Like I did.

I actually enjoy replying to bait seriously because it helps keep me sharp. This is why I miss Checkers and his autism; he would perfectly RP liberal discourse. It's like a training dummy, almost.

But that's typically the shit thrown at our faces when we discuss leftism. As frustrating as it is, we have to be able to adress this kind of stuff.

If I fuck up your order it's because you're a huge faggot or it's extremely busy and I'm rushing

What if we're what happens when a Von Neumann probe lands successfully and manipulates the society to destroy itself.

If no one worked at burger places who would make and serve you burgers? You're underestimating their value to you.

Yourself.

automatons :^)

First they automated the cashiers but i didn't bother, because i'm not a cashier
Then they automated burger flipping, but i didn't bother because i'm not a burger flipper.
Then they automated the rest of blue collars , but i didn't bother because i'm not a blue collar.
Then they automated doctors , but i didn't bother because i'm not a doctor.
Then they automated management , but i didn't bother because i'm not a manager.
And when they automated my job, no one bothered for me.

I rely on a mix of family support and savings. I made some side income from micro-jobs and selling bitcoin. But stopped selling bitcoin because it's too risky. I made enough from selling bitcoin to pay off my auto insurance, cell phone bill (nothing fancy since I don't have much of a social life. I just have a texting plan, unlimited evenings and weekends and 200 daytime minutes) and some other things.

It's too bad that I couldn't make a living selling tulip bulbs to smug batshit libertarians. Because it also turns out that a high percentage of people who buy bitcoins are major scammers who won't hesitate to chargeback their PayPal/credit card payment to you or use a stolen credit/bank card to buy bitcoins from you (which gets you in trouble with your bank and potentially the police). Bitcoin is a fucking shit-show. Every time I tell fellow bitcoin traders this, they are like "get a real job then if you don't hack it and don't have the hustle. Pull yourself up by the bootstraps." The most smug pieces of shit you'll ever meet. Libertarians are the worst.

Going against automation is like going against progress. We should be happy about the fact that humans don't have to labour as much to get what they need and want.

The real problem is that when labour is automated, the bourgeois doesn't pass the savings on to the labourer by shortening their work week (while simultaneously keeping their weekly/monthly wage the same). They just lay people off, continue to give no raises or paltry raises that can't keep up with inflation and use the savings to buy more of their own stock.

"No concessions to capitalists, we have to hurt the workers until they love us!"

brilliant.

What region/country do you live in?

Ontario, Canada. Like Jason Unruhe. lol.

People make fun of Jason for being a 34 year old unemployed man who lives at home. But this is becoming an increasingly common occurrence here. Men 30-34 here have a 4.4% "official" unemployment rate. But 9.4% are not in the labour force at all. 13.5% don't have employment. 19.5% don't have full-time employment. Most of us are probably living with our parents. Because you can't live on $681CAD/month welfare here.

People on welfare here are probably relying on some support from family. And food drives/soup kitchens. Because with $681/month, you have to make the choice between paying rent or eating and paying for other basic things. If you qualify for disability, it's $1,110/month.

We have a huge NEET problem here that the government has yet to address yet. They're just pretending like we don't exist. But then when our parents die, they're going to have to figure out what to do with us.

I'm thinking about moving to a third-world country like the Philippines where our currency goes a lot further, buying a house, start a business, meet a qt Asian girl, get her pregnant, get married. The cost-of-living is so expensive here (especially housing) that starting a family here is a non-starter. Fredrick Brennan went to the Philippines to cut back on expenses. And I know a guy who met a girl from the Philippines on a dating site, went to the Philippines on a tourist visa to visit her, got her pregnant before his visa expired and then got married.

It's actually ironic that capital-poor immigrants want to live here due to some perceived "opportunity" while unemployed first worlders (ie. Fredrick Brennan) want to get out because it's too expensive to live here.

Don't worry.
It's the same in Greece. .. now wait.. It's worse here!

Also,
IT ALL MAKES SENSE NOW!

Canada hasn't been socdem in ages (arguably never was). It's just a less shitty version of America.

AKA if you're left, you're most likely gonna be SocDem.

Is there really no shitwork? I can't believe that an area in a developed country has no bydlo jobs like restaurants or factories.

Less shitty than America? That is debatable at this point. lol. Our welfare is probably worse than the United States. In some aspects at least. Yet we get taxed more.


Sure I could go apply for a job at McDonald's or Pizza Hut now. Doesn't mean I'd actually get the job because they have a large backlog of applicants relative to actual vacancies. lol.

I thought that this was the norm pretty much everywhere in the first-world right now. Not just here.

There's also a perception among managers and petit-bourgeois that brown/yellow recent immigrants/visa workers are professional, do what their told, always on time. While Canadian-bred workers are lazy, late, flaky, entitled, strong-willed, etc.

I got fired from my last wage cuck job because I was "too sensitive" (because a customer was a being a total dick to me and I talked back to them and hung up on them. The customer threatened to sue. lol) and "not a team player" (because when they told me to apologize to the customer, I said no). My sister is a manager and she said that employers don't like strong-willed employees (she used those exact words).

You have to throw pride out the window to be an employee in 2016. I was tired of having to fight for scraps so I put that customer in their place. Fuck it. You have to be a literal cuckold to be an employee in 2016. Every day I felt like I was a cuckold at my job. It's funny how Holla Forums likes to talk about cucks. Yet they feel that the natural order is to take orders from a strongman just like a fascist dictatorship (hmm). And not to be your own boss (worker co-ops or self-employment).

Keep in mind that I also have autism. So I'm not exactly equipped to do well with customers.

I was having a panic attack at work because this customer was ripping into me. I had enough with the constant abuse I was facing with customers. So I just lost my shit at her and hung up on her.

It's funny how socialists like to say that we socdems are cowards for not doing revolution.

Yet when someone does something BASED like tell a customer or their boss to go fuck themselves (I actually didn't go that far but I tell the customer off), they are derided as being lazy or entitled. When the whole point of socialism is to say F U to wage cuckoldry right?

That's brutal.
I live in the Rust Belt and there are shitty bydlo jobs all over the place. It's better than working in a fast food gulag.
Drive a few hours south and apply to a temp agency. Become the proletariat. Suffer with us.
This is why I can't do anything involving customers. Factory jobs suck fat penis but car parts don't talk back lol.

Ye socdems are so funny!

We have too many people and too little stuff to be done. Automation and so on.

The makes more people end up scraping the barel and goinf for a pizza hut job.

And how many pizza huts do you think there are? And how many of them are not automated?

If only you knew how bad things are…


So that's why I have a job!

Also, the whole neolib corporate mentality is crazy.

"You have to care for the company and take initiative and be strong, but not too strong and don't make requests and obey the hierarch and be a good slave…"

I guess I have muh muh privilege because bydlo work exists where I live, and so on.

minimum wage, minimum effort.

76% of the labour force in Canada is in services, 13% manufacturing, 6% construction, 2% agriculture, 3% "other" (have no idea what that wild card would be).

So only about 21% of the jobs involve working with your hands. 76% involve serving the public.

This seems to be the general trend. Outsource blue-collar manual labour jobs (many of them high-paying) and replace them with shit-tier service jobs.

I have no clue what the actual breakdown is where I live specifically. I know that we still have some factories left in my city. Thank God. And we have *temporary* construction jobs (building lots of condos). Good luck finding an agricultural job here in Toronto. lol.

Yes, more automation, less manufacturing, more services.

This trend is global.
China has more manufacturing, sure, but for how long?

Eventually even services get automated.

And then people wonder why crisis.

Fuck that's brutal.
I'm actually kind of thankful that porky has reinvested in my Poland-tier region after he obliterated organized labor and stuff. I couldn't imagine high competition for fast food jobs being my only option.

If I go back to work, I'm definitely going to try to get a factory job or maybe data entry. Something like that. No way I'm going to work at McDonald's or Pizza Hut. Whenever I see a customer yell at the staff to hurry up with their pizza, I can't help but feel sorry for them.

I hate to wait an hour for my pizza at Domino's because it was 50% off, too many orders, not enough staff. I was cool about it and told the staff "man you guys need more staff to help you out." But of course Domino's isn't gonna fucking hire anyone. And when a customer complains and demands a free pizza, they throw the workers under the bus.

lol, the people in the bus aren't getting anywhere even in the picture, you know that right? They're just waiting. And to call it a circle is pretty retarded when you still get more workers happy at least temporarily, so it's still worth your time.

Maybe if we paid them 15 bucks an hour they would feel like they're performing such a humiliating and disrespected job in society and might care a little more about doing a good job.

maybe you should stop eating fast food you flabby faggot, enjoy your loogies

Only fast food I remove is Kebabs, kebabs are fucking tasty and semi-healthy(got to find a good turk tho, good litmus test is the salad bar if its fresh thats a good sign

we used to have a good schawarama place near here, no more, sometimes I will get one of those veggie faggot wraps what are they called again?

Also pay attention to where the stinkturks eat, they know whats good and what is for kuffars.

I thank the filthy arabs for bringing us at least decent food to eat oscar mike, fucking anglos are literally trying to poison us with their shit, and we actually have regulations here as opposed to the US where you will get DD moobs from eating that hormone laced garbage

I wish we could trade americans for kebab refugees, I would happily take a million syrians in exchange for you faggots, even anatolian turkroaches