Are engineers truly fucked in the job market?

Are engineers truly fucked in the job market?

I'm 30 and was thinking about going back to uni to change my career and do a mechatronics engineering, but every friend of mine who did engineering (every discipline) are telling me to not bother and instead work on getting a Master of Teaching like they are.
Are things that bad?

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Not OP, but what about the supposedly close advent of advanced prosthetics and other shit like that?

I'm Australian and was hoping to move overseas with an engineering degree. Fuck.

The cheap ones can already be made at home with 3D printer and parts ordered on ebay with free blueprints.

How many engineers do you think the companies making top quality prosthetics will need? 20? 50? With literally thousands of engineers graduating from top unis each year?

Overpopulation was a mistake.

On the contrary.
Considering how many engineers are looking for work (especially now that we are pushing more niggers and women into the job) we can easily dump the wages to mcdonalds tier.
The future is looking bright fellow chosen ones!

Akshuly, it might still be salvageable. With the bulk (and, eventually, all) of the staff being too diverse to think businesses will start failing, thus freeing space for startups which could provide employment opportunities for people who know their shit.

why would anything nice ever happen?
also startups are an american thing, outside of the us they practically dont exist

Sorry Holla Forumsyp but studies have shown that diversity increases productivity

I only remember this one study that explicitly states that more women leads to less productivity.
Source on your claims?

Engineer here. Im so rich its not even funny. I also live a superior lifestyle.

Eastern Europe.


Way off the mark, I just hate hypocritically correct faggots and loud fat dykes with neon hair too.
And you know perfectly well that what commie agenda means pseudodiversity. Nothing good comes out of quotas and similar forced shit. And no, this doesn't mean nazis are any better.

It depends on how you can withstand certain bullshit.
Personally I'll go for mechatronics engineering, from my perspective you learn more from applying such work than teaching.
Teaching is interesting too but I'll suggest that you learn more about humane relations in this case.
Either way you'll have to more or less go to uni.
The advantage of not being a professor is that you don't have to manage the social justice cult bullshit

Yes the school system is filled with insane students and most of jobs are being exported into pajeetland which the students are supporting.

t. delusional nigger

ft.com/content/1bc22040-1302-11e7-80f4-13e067d5072c
sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/03/090331091252.htm
apps.olin.wustl.edu/workingpapers/pdf/2004-05-001.pdf

The only thing thats fucked are white girls by superior bbc

See the thing is MoT is 2 years while B.Engineering is 4.
And teachers make $300~$400 a day here working as casual replacement.


Please stop bestiality is illegal here.

If the only thing you can do is to talk to people instead of applying the what you know there isn't a lot of interesting perspective.
OP is 30 years old teaching in uni is more of a retirement solution if you aren't motivated in teaching.
Plus the value of your teaching is increased if you have experience in a certain field so if OP works in mechatronics for most of his life and then teaches, the students would have someone who knows his shit instead of some vague faggots who never applied anything he learned.

>ft.com/content/1bc22040-1302-11e7-80f4-13e067d5072c
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>sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/03/090331091252.htm
Blocks tor
Did you read it ?
productivity if there is ample opportunity for mutual learning and task coordination within the
team.
pressure less effective and by increasing team-member turnover.
This only works if the "diverse" people are equals or are given "equal" oportunity which is never the case.

analyze the impact of team diversity on productivity and worker turnover.
It's a theoretical model based on data that comes only from one source and other studies so old that we don't have traceability.

>"Diversity may reduce the firm’s communication costs with particular segments of customers or yield greater team problem solving abilities. On the other hand, diversity also may raise communication costs in teams thereby retarding problem-solving and diminishing productivity. Unfortunately, the effect of team diversity on productivity has not been studied formally and there is little empirical evidence concerning the impact of diversity on productivity. "

Have some counters:
nzae.org.nz/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/nr1215393423.pdf
archive.boston.com/news/globe/ideas/articles/2007/08/05/the_downside_of_diversity/

You assume that OP will be able to get a job upon graduation, which many in this board find difficult.

Pretty funny that you think teaching is 'talking to people' then act as if some cuck who couldn't progress to managerial role will somehow become a great primary school teacher because of "experience"

Don't know why you replied to me when the guy above me was asking for sources, but the third paper (the only one that's accessible or can be taken seriously) outright says skill diversity has a positive effect on productivity, not ethnic. Also it was all-female teams where a) communication costs would be inherently lower and b) switching teams or going single would be involving another form of peer-pressure (if you don't know how all-female groups operate ask your female relatives, preferably older ones). Just the most glaring things.

Will you please just go back to 4chan with your liberal propaganda? Your clearly don't belong here on the Holla Forums.

How long until this damage becomes so visible that the media/government can no longer deny it? It's obvious the job market is shedding jobs, but everyone just denies it.

Listen reddit go back to the front page of the interent and stay there. Liberal kike.

I think the next ten years will be interesting. AI is now getting good enough to replace many jobs, it's just up to the companies to be the first to take the bullet (i.e. damning media coverage accusing companies of being heartless and unions protesting).

Im pissing into your mouth kike faggot. Next Ill shit in it.

Lolwut. Read my post again, nigger.

Don't respond to obvious shitposters, newfriend.

Middle class forever.

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This. I've noticed a few topics are being shitpost to death right now. Ignore the obvious bait posts.

I'd have to ignore like 70% of posters in that case. Besides, sometimes people are tired, drunk, autists with ADHD, just not paying enough attention because average 8ch poster is a nigger.

Fully automated socialism/UBI when?

It can happen in our lifetime comrade, if we were to rise up as one!

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Truly the Jews did a fantastic job creating a nation of retards

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[provide the sauce faggot]

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I want him to back up his claims dude, any monkey with an IQ above 40 can use Google

That'd totally work. Get some top tier German engineers and throw some 70IQ "Syrians from Africa" into the mix... instant wellspring of productivity!!!!

Sounds about right. Hopefully the big mammals will survive the nigger-pocolypse.

Those with no value will be culled. Those telling you otherwise are attempting to get the west culled.

Define "value". If you mean (((college degrees and permission from kikes))) then you are part of the problem and need to fuck off.

Haha yeah, us Holla Forums posters are too smart for things like degrees and dropped out of highschool xD Heil Hitler lulz

Try harder, shlomo.


faggot

Mostly depends on where you live.
Also, whatever change you wanna make, you should do it now, because you won't stay young forever.

Why are you asking here? The people in this board are either underage faggots and/or Holla Forumstards

Hello kike.

Seriously? That's cool with all you?

I'm done with this place.

Edgy low-quality racism is a constant here. Hate speech is not against the rules - just ignore it. You can add word filters in the options, that might help.
If you really can't stand to see it occasionally it's best to leave. Imageboards don't filter for quality.

How did you manage to hold out until now? It was like this on every not completely dead board since mid 2015.

that's why reddit is better tbh

I hate Reddit, but I honestly think that's a valid opinion to have.

Holy shit stop sperging out. I was the one who put (((their))) brackets there. I only did that because most colleges have a jew in the highest leadership position like dean or president.

The concept of needing permission to do something i.e a certificate of liscense comes from old europe. Where unions of high ranking nobles would keep peasents from working in a craft unless they got certified to join the guild.

But that never happened as most peasents truly were stupid or I should say unable to learn back then. Nowadays college degrees are totally useless with how easy it is to build a curriculum and learn yourself from the internet. There's even a project working on a FOSS first through twelth grade school curriculem with internet software for offline use. Kinda like khan academy but no microkike at the top to pozz things should you want to remove the lies in the curriculum ala hitler being evil and the hertz-maxwell equations not accounting for quantum energy.

Colleges have turned into the new prisons of the mind where speech against the normal is stiffiled. See vidya related for the long term goal of (((modern))) eduacation.

>>>/reddit/
>>>/suicide/
>>>Holla Forums
>>>/bog/

2/10, bait harder.

I think we're talking about , not whatever post you mean

Get a job in logistics and supply chain management. Good money and great prospects.

supplychaindigital.com/scm/skills-shortage-facing-global-supply-chains

>supplychaindigital.com
idk man, URL doesnt look very neutral

You're just pretending to be this retarded right?

Hitler was correct, even the jews themselves admit such a thing. See video related.

The hertz maxwell equations do not account for quantum energy you faggot. Nor does special relativity account properly for quantum energy. Now lurk moar or fuck off.

Oh... remember user, suicide is always an option. Especially for you.

Fuck off.

No seriously. Do something for your parents for once.

I'm crashing this conversation, with no survivors.

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What did he meme by this?
No not upset, because they were physical kike cocksuckers.

I'll gas you last

Ok this caught my interrest.
Please share the sauce so that I can investigated this please.

I don't know the source because I just found it on Holla Forums. You would have to make a thread there asking for the user that originally found it to find out the source. It's real though. There's no doubt about that because of the setting and the age of the kike in question. Along with how he spoke of israel almost like he was a preacher.

Here's one for you to look up grandma

Everyone is fucked. Capitalism will continue to drive down wages by importing cheap labour, shipping jobs to 3rd world countries, and automation. Not to mention depleting the world's resources and rendering the planet inhospitable to life.

Try again /leftpol/. Who owns all those buisnesses that monopolize the resources of the people in the so called 'capiltalistic' societies of today? Kikes and their golems (((they))) use to control the people/goyim.

I say so called because when you can't grow your own food and pot your own water capitilism has failed and it's a communist monopoly over resources by kikes now.

Jews or not, they do it because it is profitable.

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Yes it does.

Get out

Sucks that I'm living in the transition period, I'll be too old to help overthrow the government

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