VG exposed the largest child sexual abuse forum

It was run by the police.

vg.no/spesial/2017/undercover-darkweb/?lang=en

Australian cops ran the largest dark web child porn site for almost year, posted CP too.

Other urls found in this thread:

theguardian.com/society/2017/oct/07/australian-police-sting-brings-down-paedophile-forum-on-dark-web
bbc.co.uk/newsbeat/article/40477791/swedish-music-festival-is-cancelled-in-2018-after-rape-and-sexual-assault-claims).
theregister.co.uk/2017/09/29/samantha_the_robot/
lawcomic.net/guide/?p=633
8ch.net/dost.html
github.com/TorCapybara/lolib
hooktube.com/watch?v=d-7o9xYp7eE
pastebin.com/raw/WTAS4Ju2
github.com/freenet/wiki/wiki/Security-summary
freenetproject.org/pages/help.html
github.com/trailofbits/algo
github.com/freenet/wiki/wiki/Security-summary#Frost
devops.host/blog/streisand-vpn.html)
vg.no/nyheter/meninger/det-lovloese-rom/a/24167443/
twitter.com/NSFWRedditGif

Disturbing how Australian's cops posted actual CP.

possessing and sharing cp should not be illegal imho

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God damn that's a long story. Again, it all comes down to opsec - the admins didn't keep theirs, and they paid for it.

Can't pedos just keep their dicks in they pants?

The admin of Giftbox Exchange (crazymonk) met up with the admin of Child's Play (WarHead) in real life and raped a 4 year old.

Patrick Falte (crazymonk) was apparently an Holla Forums poster too. Both have already been sentenced to life.

LEA shut down Child's Play a few weeks ago and it's implied they used a browser exploit to track visitors. They have over 1000 people on their list to arrest.

Apart from the FH raid, did they ever manage to do it any other way?

Keep reading, that's when the journalist found a weakness while Task Force Argos were running the site.

Job well done!

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Shot D&C shilling!

Don't you know that reddit is one of the most important contributers to chan culter!

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For those who visited these sites: if you kill yourself now, you can spare yourself the shame of your eventual arrest and incarceration.

kek

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How do web browser exploits work???

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>>>/reddit/

That's some good autism.


wtf

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which laptop is that?

Feels like someone doesn't want people to talk about this.

please explain how pointing out reddit spacing makes this thread go away??????????
also btw i think you ment to write (((someone)))

I did not.

You do realize if you go look at chan archives, people type like that way before reddit was even a thing, right, you stupid faggot?

Literally says "MacBook Pro" under the screen.

wtf, Holla Forums ate my post?


Literally says "MacBook Pro" under the screen.

It only became common after chanology and has always been a great way to identify "anons" who are more culturally reddit than channer.

No, old internet users and typists (as in typefuckingwritters) have been double-spacing long before. It's not a test that anyone has ever used except newfags who badly want to fit in. If you look up the term "reddit spacing", you'll note that it's quite recent. It used to be a way to tell an old fart from a young person, but not really a way to out a user from a particular website. Being a tryhard faggot bitching about a secret club, however, is a sure mark of a newfag.

Australia is a prison colony for people too dangerous to keep near the motherland, of course the cops there are criminals.


Look at you, derailing this thread as hard as possible. Fuck off and die retarded scum

I like this idea. Solving crime is obviously hard, so police should just make their own crime and then solve it. I think police should expand on this system. Policemen can grow drugs in their basements and sell it, then arrest the buyers. Or steal phones from people, put them on park benches and then jump out from the bushes to arrest people who pick them up.

Yea I am wonder how they did this too. Especially since they were only targeting 1,000 chan browsers and not the 1,000,000 other pedoshits.

There's a little excerpt that explains the trick. You could upload an avatar to the server by providing a URL, and apparently the server grabbed it over the clearnet and exposed its IP address.

They got a VPS from the same provider to test latency and confirm that it wasn't a TOR exit node or proxy. Then they did some further analysis with packet sizes to prove it was actually being shared directly from their server over the host's LAN and not through a VPN.


It's funny. The first half details how they rolled up the moderator and did all this internet sleuthing to find the identities of the admins, and I thought they were just blowing this "owning the server" thing out of proportion because they had moderator access. Then they got to the part where they ran the website for almost a year after moving it to Australia to give them more sweeping powers to attack users with browser exploits and shared CP to stay in character as the admin.

It's funny, if they'd used OpenBSD, a simple `pfctl -e` would've saved their asses

Task Force Argos did the same thing in 2014 with a site called The Love Zone. They ran it for almost a year and used video files that phoned home, browser exploits and supposedly a highly targeted 7z/winrar exploit.

Also just traditional investigating: busting people who used personal emails to sign up, account names, personal information, etc

Similar thing happened and everyone released from jail.

So don't be a faggot using windows and fucking use a vlc version without networking built in. Isn't that common sense at this point?

Is she just being disingenuous to be a cunt? It isn't hypocritical, the police acknowledge that they are getting permission to do illegal acts that are still harmful. They (at least in the article) don't argue that it isn't damaging, they see it as necessary to arrest cp producers and site admins. They aren't hypocritical, they're doing dirty work no one else can (legally) to save children. What's more important: children being raped/killed, or the child's feelings about having their picture shared? This is canada "if you kill your enemies you're just as bad as them" tier cuck shit. I wouldn't be surprised if this jewess openly promotes pedophilia.

Considering most pedo rings are run by (((governments))) you are wrong. This is simply to entrap people since they target chan goers and not others like the 1,000,000 other accounts. Plain and simple. Should they be viewing cp? No. But when it comes to creation of cp and pedo rings (((governments))) have the monopoly.

There were not 1,000,000 users, only 1,000,000 accounts. Many probably signed up multiple times for OpSec purposes

>But when it comes to creation of cp and pedo rings (((governments))) have the monopoly.
Eh, I guess I forgot about that possibility. Do you think governments use CP sharing forums though? I'd think that they would use different channels for that kind of thing, and not the deep-web. If not, what's stopping police from accidentally uncovering government cp activity? Besides a bullet to the head.

There's a reason why we here in the west have a tradition of not allowing police to do crime for entrapment purposes, but I suspect the moral and societal reasons for this would go way above the head of millennial communists like you. This heavily propagandized attitude is very scary with your "the ends justify the means" and the state is above the law. I shudder at the thought of where this will lead down the line.

Ok, so it's impossible for the pleb normalfag to disagree with this because it's about pedos. Everyone hates pedos and no one cares about their due process, that's fine actually. But where do we draw the line on this? Is it only pedo crime where it's ok that police act as pedo-dealers to catch criminals? If so, please let's make the laws reflect that, because I know police and they abuse their privileges to the maximum of their extent. Is it ok if the police sells stolen goods to catch the buyers? Is it ok if the police make drugs to catch druggies? Is it ok if the police goes undercover and incites "hate speech" before arresting those who join in? I'd really like to know where the lines are on this in your mind.

If I was any authority I'd give these policemen the same punishment as the pedos they catch. I think that's pretty Salomonic, seeing how they actually are distributors of child pornography. Good job, you caught some pedo criminals by becoming pedo criminals, now you can all go to jail together.

Blackmail >>>Holla Forums10589216 .
I have no doubt that all of the pedoshit deep web and suface websites are controlled or honeypotted by (((governments))). I haven't investigated any of these things because there's no good way to do it with 100% anonymity. Along with I really don't need to see pedoshit.

Do you honestly beleive that those 1,000 chan users made 1000 accounts each? There wouldn't be enough time to do that before they got busted. yes I know chan users could be that autistic. But there's no fucking way 1000 of them were that autistic and were pedos at the same time. Too amazing of a (((coincidence)))

No, prostitution and drug sting operations work in a similar manner and are legal provided that police obtain warrants to do them.
In the context of this article, I highly doubt the police are abusing their power. One of the investigators had to pose as a pedo on cp forums and post images and gain the trust of the users. He had to adopt the mindset of these people, become them, to do his job and gather as much evidence as possible to make a case. That kind of work would eventually take a huge mental toll on any man. The guy in the article said he'd been doing this work for over 20 years, I don't know how he faces his family or stops himself from an heroing on a daily basis. Point is, I don't think police would want to abuse their authority in these cases unless they were already unhinged.

All that being said, I can see where you're coming from. I believe police could abuse their authority, but for them to be able to do that it would require a corrupt judicial system to make it happen.

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why are you calling them chan users? This was a forum. A full-blown phpBB deal. Normalfags were using it from Windows 10.

The police weren't busting people one at a time, they build a log. It's unlikely that 1000 users made 1000 accounts, for 10,000 users could have made 100 accounts. 50,000 can make 20, and so on.

You keep saying "chan users" and "chan browsers," but what the hell do people on imageboards have to do with this? Are you implying that these sites only exist to entrap pedos on imageboards and not pedos in general?

These operations target admins, control websites, and then sweep up as many people as possible until their cover is blown or they are satisfied.* What part of this targets people specifically from imageboards? If anything, people from places like here are statistically more immune from these attacks due to higher tech skills. Most pedos that get busted through these stings are old farts using TOR on Windows through their normalfag browsers.

* - Sidenote: I'd be interested to see where they think they draw the line in general, not case-by-case, provided their cover isn't blown. There's a thin line between dealing undercover and dealing for real, and I don't support this type of shit in general because I can't tell where the line is here. Whether a priori or a posteriori, I have no idea how you'd come up with a measure for what's too far and what isn't.

Why do you specify chan goers? Those seem like the least of groups they'd care about.
Less likely to be producers or be part of a real "community" of pedophiles if anything.
There's definitely overlap considering pedos are a fringe group, but chan users are a side casuality, not the target.

I mistook this
For saying chan users. I was clearly mistaken though.
Although it is a bit weird that three of you came out with very quick and similar responses
There's your problem. That's like leaving a open ftp server on windows xp to the internet. Nope.avi

because we are chan users and that's a really weird angle to take

also
It's just the best solution. It wasn't the problem - the exploit in the Aus police's server was a user error, misconfiguration

theguardian.com/society/2017/oct/07/australian-police-sting-brings-down-paedophile-forum-on-dark-web

Only 4000 Active Users

kys

btw, not to defend them, but most of those producers were doing live.me, periscope, younow caps. Only a few were doing in person molesting/penetration/posing/rape

Are you trying to make us feel better about the pedos?

Trust the rustfag to have thought very carefully about how a secure pedo forum should be run.

Tox confirmed to be used to organize child rape. Good job!

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Why rape real babys when lifelike silcone onaholes exist?

But this goes way beyond just the abuse of power. The morality of it is really sketchy in itself. When you create the circumstance for crime, you must acknowledge that in a lot of cases you'll also be partially (and sometimes even largely) responsible for the crime. This is pretty self evident to most, which is why we punish people for stuff like inciting violence, even if the actual violence doesn't follow. Because we have an innate understanding that inciting crime will in a lot of cases create criminal situations.

To follow my previous example, let's say a policeman sells stolen phones to catch buyers of such goods. Some of the people he catches will be people who were out to buy a stolen phone and would have done so anyways from whoever. Fine. Some people will be people who are balancing on the line between morality and temptation, and perhaps the particular circumstances at that precise moment was what tipped them over to buying a stolen phone. Perhaps without that particular situation and opportunity they would have gone through their lives without buying stolen phones. In other words, you can't really know if some would have committed the crime without your incitement. That is unless you assume in a somewhat nutty religious way (like many do these days) that everything is completely deterministic and a person is somehow "fated" to do all the things they do. And that's what these guys are pretending, like their incitement to crime isn't creating criminals in some instances, but that all the criminals they catch were "destined" to commit crime.

That's why police shouldn't create crime. Their job is to stop, prevent and punish crime, not create it to catch the criminals they in a sense create. I know that you in the US have grown lax on this and use such sting operations liberally, but even with you there was huge debate and lots of criticism when this practice began, exactly because it goes against hundreds of years of established western law practice. Your federal government is way out of control and this is one of the ways. Here in Norway (which has a rapidly deteriorating legal foundation as well) that practice would be highly illegal, because in that particular aspect we do retain some rational law. Any policeman committing crime to catch criminals would be prosecuted as a criminal.

As he should, in my opinion.

Imagine walking out into traffic with a bag full of those and just whipping them at cars. Or dropping them off of a highway overpass, or.. the possibilities are endless

Many lulz would be had but holy shit that poor person suffering for you. Btw you are a sick fuck for thinking of these things.

Conversely, Tox now confirmed secure enough for feds to attack other, weaker links in the chain. Bravo, Tox devs!

"Methinks thou doth protest too much" has never been more relevant than for this article.
This really makes my head spin to try rationalizing the chain of events through history that led up to this point.
Went from child brides and arranged marriages, to raising the age of consent as lifespans got longer, and the demonizing of arranged marriage/child brides but the rise of both sex trafficking and pornography among the highest figures of authority who damned it the most.
How did this shit manage to happen and completely slip under the radar of the general public?

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They talk a lot about how they caught these two guys but what about the rest? Does it mean they found a hole in tor? I don't really know much about how it all works but it seems pretty lucky to get over 900 of them through personal information or something. I don't imagine they post their facebook account there.

No.try reading the article.

Its pretty large article, all i found is:
But that's about the servers IP. Can you point me to the right part if i missed it?

Read the thread, faggot.

I did, asshole.

That's the only thing in this thread that comes close to my question. Is that the only exploit they used? If so, does it mean that didn't use a hole in tor?

Read the article and you'll find out.

go
fuck
yourself :(

i dont even understand what you are sperging about

is there a linux alternative?
even fucking macos has pf

of course you don't
otherwise you wouldn't do this stupid shit in the first place

JPG is a lossy format, PNG is a lossless format. That means that to reduce file size JPG loses information (which shows up as blurriness), while PNG leaves everything intact but just stores it efficiently.
JPG's lossy compression is good for photos. In screenshots, especially of text with a plain background, it very noticeably degrades quality, often without even saving space compared to PNG. Therefore it's a good idea to save screenshots as PNG. You get smaller files that look better.

i am not


we are not on reddit. kys faggot
actually i can read the text just fine.

OSuX is BSD

It's autism, user. Have some sympathy.

This is the only way to catch child rapists. If someone has cp on their computer, the chances are they probably molested children before

a few days ago i saw cp on Holla Forums. it probably is still somewhere in my browser cache. am i a child molester now????????????
how about you kill yourself

Yes. Report yourself to the FBI.

im a europoor though

inter/pol/ then.

So the police molested kids?
Ok, they probably did... but I digress

Sup fellow Norway techie.
Now, I'm a hebe but don't frequent such forums.
This has been an interesting turn of events, to say the least. I thought Høydal and Stangvik had turned to other issues, as they became disinterested in taking up any of my suggestions.
Clearly they have not only been busy with this, but I must assume, also with other aspects.
Oh and there may be a few documentary episodes coming out this year.
Being interviewed by a pretty 25 year old woman and straight out admitting to wanting to be in a relationship with a minor (if I could chose) was weird.
Any way, there's some really heavy criticism levelled at these two aussie stooges in today's paper, to the point of having a psychiatrist claim they are employing the same cognitively distorted logic as child molesters do, to justify running a forum which indoctrinates its members into becoming impaired with distorted thoughts of their own.
Personally I think the police should have other options available than just arresting the non-producers, if for no other reason than the human cost involved for their families.

At what point does it become clear that hybrid military / policing stupidity along the line of "we have to continue to destroy whole families in the off chance one of their members is at risk of abusing a child", is retarded?

How much suffering is required before they replace the "punish after the fact" approach with preventative measures such as the Dunkelfeld project?

Norway unfortunately is busy busy busy churning out forensic experts at NTNU in Gjøvik, and wishes to become world leaders in the market of prosecuting child porngraphy consumers.

No.
Consuming child pornography is not in itself any indicator that the person is at risk of committing an offense with a minor, quite the opposite: Studies from over five countries show that consumption of child pornography is linked to lower rates of abuse.

There's a pun about perverse incentives here. Can you make it?

I read the whole thing, and it does say that they changed the software code of the site to get IP's. This does NOT exactly answer my question, which was: is tor compromised? I do understand that changing the site code isn't the same as a tor hole but if that so easy many more would do that. I'm not an tech expert thats why i wanna know how this exploit relates to tor in general.

Pot calling the kettle black much?

Damn, hit New Reply too fast:

hello n-s-yayyy-kun!

You too, can go fuck yourself.

Suppose there was no normal porn to be found, anywhere, it is outlawed. The only places you could maybe get a glimpse of it was on the dark net which would be a horrendous crime to access. What do you think crime statistics would be like for rape in this scenario?

but it wasnt

This was basically the situation before the 1960s. Have you ever heard of the Hays code? Gratuitous French kissing was enough for a film to not be licensed back then. Were there mass rapes happening all the time (outside of war)? No.

In fact, barbaric displays of sexuality are a part of modern society even when literally millions of porn videos are a search and click away. Sex attacks are happening with alarming frequency at music festivals nowadays, so much so that they are being cancelled because of it (bbc.co.uk/newsbeat/article/40477791/swedish-music-festival-is-cancelled-in-2018-after-rape-and-sexual-assault-claims). Recently, a sex robot (which I imagine you would argue is good for people to control their urges) was subjected to sexual mob violence when it went on display: theregister.co.uk/2017/09/29/samantha_the_robot/

Another parallel to CP would be voyeuristic porn, upskirt and the like. How do you think people get the idea to make those videos without having consumed a lot of that stuff before? Porn-obsessed people get ideas from porn. As, apparently, did the two paedophile pieces of shit in the article.

rapefugees
feminists
are you a christcuck?????????????????

Wow, three buzzwords in 6 words. You really are doing well today!

You do realize that the entire growth of violent rape in Sweden is because of immigrants? How does this fit with your porn = sex attacks theory? Does third worlders watch more porn?

stfu n-s-yayyy-kun!

I didn't say that. Even if I did, more than one cause for sex attacks is possible. The fact that having more North Africans and Middle-easterners contributes to rape does not disprove the theory that porn also has an effect. But again, I only said that porn doesn't reduce attacks like the user I was replying to implied.
Not important, but still: if you think that the horny twentysomethings from Islamic countries, who suddenly find themselves in a hedonistic paradise away from their parents and old society, are not watching porn whenever they get the chance, then you're deluded.

lol. try taking an argumenting class n-s-yayyy-kun

Well, perhaps. I've never seen any indication that it's so. It's like the "violent video games causes violence" debate that pops up every 10 years or so. Never seems to be any substance behind it. But if your theory is true that porn causes sexual deviancies and violent media causes violence and so on, then this should be confirmed conclusively in a scientific fashion and pretty much 99% of media and literature banned. Actually, if it's true then I guess we need some sort of radically conservative version of Sharia or something to prevent it. And actually I don't know if that would even be worth it.

Not saying child pornography isn't harmful. It's obviously harmful to the children being abused. One can argue that it's harmful to the consumer because it locks that person into their degenerate world view which obviously doesn't alleviate their condition. But I'd like to see something substantive to indicate that fantasy leads to action, because as mentioned if that's true then we got a whole lot of problems on our hands way beyond child pornography.

But yeah, I find the other guy's claim that it reduces attacks just as tenuous.

Norway is in a very strange position. The establishment here, the post-ww2 social democrat marxist-feminist coalition, is entering a phase where it's dying. They have solved all the problems their existence was founded on and so it needs to create new societal problems to justify their continued primacy. Which is why it does things like import incompatible immigrants and creating this new sex hysteria. It doesn't help that most of it's mid level ideologues are women, a group marked by their low rationality and high sex hysteria.

I don't really know what you define as "hebe" but I question your judgement in making it such an integral part of your character. Sexual fetishes aren't genetic, they are developed. And life for sexual deviants in Norway is about to become much worse, not better.

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What would happen if the FBI planted CP on Trump's or his Son's computer and tried to bust him over that?

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What hole did you crawl out of? Take your trite shitposts back to Holla Forums or Reddit or wherever you came from.


I'd hate to admit it but he does have a point in that 1960's America is not a fair comparison to the same country 50+ years later. (That goes double for western Europe.) Demographics are important here, as are attitudes toward sex and public modesty. Porn did not clear the way for the sexual revolution, the sexual revolution pulled porn behind it.

Every male with a normal libido on Earth has wanted to steal a glance under a skirt. Most will just leave it at fantasy and never try it, and even fewer will make a sneaky voyeur camera to do so. It's also a poor comparison to pedophiles because a good portion of them were raped or groomed at a pre-pubescent age, especially the ones that aim really young. It's true that most males do not have fantasies about fucking a young child, but at the same time it's not like they'll warm up to the idea because they saw someone do it when they were 16.

Go

fuck

yourself

you

gaylord.

Paragraphs and word count are unrelated.

LOL

>when you go on a crusade to pretend that children cannot consent and that all sex under a magic illogical age is "rape" because your feminist jew overlords tell you to but then you distribute the same material you're fighting against to coerce innocent people into looking at it so you can feed your billionaire plan to get prison funding by filling cells with the people you coerced into committing wrongthinking while your boss Larry Schmidt Goldbergstein is an Illuminati agent who wears off child sex slaves that he bought with Bitcoin as often as you change underwear, but its OK because he's a Chosen One™ and you're a just a filthy Goy™ who doesn't deserve anything above second-hand used up roasties.


this world is so many layers of fucked its unbelievable.

The ends justify the means!

alternatively

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Pedos should volunteer to be gassed for the betterment of civilization.

Time to join the force, anyone else with me?

I am in!

involuntary-feminist cucks should volunteer to be gassed for the betterment of civilization.

Everyone who isn't a pedo wants pedos to be dead. You can't hide be hind politics, loser.

Good thing no one worthwhile cares about your shitty opinions

Wow the quality of posts on this board sure dropped.

Welcome to 2017, Holla Forums has been shit for two years.

why did (You) reply then?????????

antisage XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD

Consider the following.
1. These Aussiefags operate under unique laws
2. Another australian military dude has written the book on "computer security: principles and practice"
3. These two stooges have been at it for over 20 years
4. They have the highest military clearance there is
5. They saw that they got so few hits even after a year they are only planning to arrest 1000 compared to playpen's 8000
6. You can kind of see where I am going with this
7. If anybody had the access and the motivation to use military-grade sploits and such because of hurt professional pride
8. Also yes

Isn't it more likely that the reason why they got so few hits is because their hacking prowess is just bravado, and in reality they only caught the most moronic users? Like, people who use their gmail to sign up to their pedo forum and so on.

absolutely not. tor is definitely compromised.

I assume that too, but how do you know?

your security clearance isnt high enough

Pff, I have tip-top-secret 34 degree reptilian clearance. You can tell me.

Officer Griff "I recognize that bulge" Jones on the case.

populism is a fickle mistress user. tomorrow you can easily find yourself on the wrong side of it.

You're a fag for bringing your retarded AoC arguments here. This thread should be about technical details of this operation and not about your crappy pedo agenda. You should neck yourself for that already.

Technical details are that these guys are so retarded they have proven their worth to the system and so are allowed to run sploits against the tor browser that are about to be revealed to the public anyway

Or something like that together with some access to interpol / europol supa-dupa tracking staisjons

I dunno

Anyway run tor browser with max securitaj settings in a firejail or preferably under whonix on qubes os i guess

i never mentioned aoc
no u

Not having porn doesn't seem to stop rape though, quite the opposite.

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Probably the number was 1,000,000 but likely the police were covering up for their pedo bosses who they uncovered.

actual discussion here:
end of technical discussion
could you please fuck off to your containment board? this is a technology discussion board and I see 5 posts total discussing actual technical topic.

Bullshit

A lot of sex trafficing goes on in China too and somehow that's in the green for rape... Obviously this is going very underreported in many countries. Take that map with a serious grain of salt

Well is it a js-exploit though?
b/c there have been some ramblings about font-exploitation and the inherent vulnerability of the non-hardened browser for some time and I find it weird that 1/4 of the posters on a board run by a pentester did not in fact have js turned off or at least used some compartmentalization

What interests me the most of course is to what extent can these guys have access to stuff like the NSA's tracking net

I mean how militarized is the net and how is it at the disposal of twedledee and tweedledum at this point

Well is it a js-exploit though?
b/c there have been some ramblings about font-exploitation and the inherent vulnerability of the non-hardened browser for some time and I find it weird that 1/4 of the posters on a board run by a pentester did not in fact have js turned off or at least used some compartmentalization

What interests me the most of course is to what extent can these guys have access to stuff like the NSA's tracking net

I mean how militarized is the net and how is it at the disposal of twedledee and tweedledum at this point

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That's a bit fucked that they raped a 4 year old while the Police were tailing them. I'm not sure why they waited until the next day to bust down the door.

Busting someone who actually raped a kid looks better than busting someone for possession.

Seeing as how they did mental cartwheels around posting CP to known pedophiles, I guess her rape was for the greater good.

more like censored, thanks to our friends at Cisco

so these cops personally distributed CP to thousands of people but are somehow not guilty of 're-victimizing those children' with each download, which is apparently the reason for the law in the first place. huh.

That's not true at all, and that's not what entrapment is. A cop can break the law themselves in order to catch criminals. Please understand the laws you talk about.
lawcomic.net/guide/?p=633

fucking LOL

I'm talking historically you mouth-breather. From the times way before your millennial ass was born into this husk of a once great civilization.

Then you're retarded. Almost all undercover work would be immoral under your definition of entrapment.

No, there's a difference between going undercover to observe crime and actually doing crime yourself. It's the difference between a cop disguising himself as a junkie and buying drugs so as to catch the dealer in the act and a cop selling drugs to people and arresting them when they buy. The first is moral, the second is immoral. Pretty easy concept to grasp if you're not retarded.

And such procedures are illegal for cops to do in most of the west. Both historically and presently. It was even illegal only a few decades ago in burgeristan before insane people took over running your country.

From Steven Pinker's the better angels of our nature figure 7-10, rape in the US has reduced 5-fold since 1970. I would post the graph if I could on tor.

Even more analogous would be a cop selling drugs to people, allowing them to use it. The cop repeats this process with the same people over and over and then finally arrests everyone he sold to.
sage for being retarded

I find the way that Faulkner/WarHead was caught was a bit strange. They caught him by cross-referencing a forum post on the clearnet with a problem that he had on the giftbox site. Are they saying that he publicly announced on the giftbox that he was having technical difficulties with the site? How would they know what the problem was that he was running into? He apparently:
I'm calling shenanigans on this part of the story. There's no fucking way that they were able to pin it on him from some forum post, a screencap of nothing but code no less, made on the clearnet. I refuse to believe he was dumb enough to upload a screencap to a shady russian image hosting server and post it on a clearnet site. Also, although I don't ever post on other software/tech forums, I highly doubt any user over there with a brain would use a username that would link them to their actual identity (unless they're software devs). My guess is they were able to catch him using a TOR or JS exploit that is otherwise unknown the public, and they needed to keep that a secret. There's just too many stars that had to align to to create a lead like that.


They won't tell us what the exploits were because to them it's still useful, and publishing that information is like giving up a weapon. I should remind you that the FBI literally dropped a case against a pedophile that posted on playpen because they would have had to disclose the TOR (or javascript) exploit/vulnerability they used to catch him. It's possible they dropped DOZENS of cases over that.

I question the validity of this data.

What VM? You can't believe someone doing this shit every day can slip up and make one little mistake? Shit happens.

Sure you can believe they used a TOR or JS exploit, but there's no evidence for either of those, and to assume that's what happened is to ignore everything else known about the case.

They do not have an exploit for Tor. Recently the government has made a bounty of $1,000,000 for anyone who can actually disclose to them a Tor zero-day

I don't have trouble believing he'd be dumb enough to do that. My guess is they stumbled upon it just by googling for sites using that image host. There's more than enough breadcrumbs to trace things back to him without resorting to QUANTUM/FOXACID shenanigans.

I thought I would not make a mistake like that until I did. I posted CP stuff on a clearnet site bare ip. I posted before I realised I had the wrong thing in the clipboard.

Based on the numbers in the article, even if every member of CP had 10 accounts, they still were only able to identify less than 1% of them.

That's pathetic. All they did was give pedos fast, reliable hosting for a year.

How is Childs Play the largest CP site? Magic Kingdom was/is larger. Both in registrations and post rate.

Is this real life? or a Tolkien inspired fantasy epic?

That's exactly what this witch hunt mentality gets you.

The gubermint is willing to pay 1 teeny-weeny million to get confirmation that their NOBUS sploits are safe and / or any ones discovered are sold to them and not the chinese so that they can track down the guys finding the sploit and kill them first

good goyim

the internet won't look any good without our hipster-tier helvetica ripoffs

Does Tor Browser with security slider on high allow remote fonts?

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I don't believe this. Unless they mean posters.
The files I posted on Childs Play often got more than 4000 downloads each.

If there was a browser exploit used against users it did not use JavaScript.
You could not use Childs Play with JavaScript enabled. If you tried you were redirected to Topic Links 2.0, which had a note saying you could not browse Childs Play with JavaScript enabled.
WarHead said that if you could ever browse Childs Play with JavaScript enabled it should be considered compromised, no exceptions.
It would have been noticed if this had changed.

I am very interested to see what methods were used to find users. I hope we do not find out by getting the knock.
There were lots of low hanging fruit. Some people upload/download the files without Tor. Some people use the site without Tor with those tor2web relays.

genuine pedos on MY Holla Forums?
its more likely than you'd think apparently

i just hacked your ips. reporting you right now. enjoy getting your buttholes raped in prison

What else would you expect on a chan?(USER WAS BANNED FOR THIS POST)

Why? The image was not nude or lewd.
Are all children inherently in violation of "Dost" now?

No class.

Nearly nude, and hitting some other points of 8ch.net/dost.html as well. Don't post that.


Someone asked about this one too, but I didn't see it. It was posted and removed while I was asleep.

Shouldn't you be following bathtub boy and drinking some Febreze?

Shouldn't you be in the Jim circle jerk threads on /cow/?

So how did that payment with bitcoin thing work?
As in, did people who produced original content, get paid?
Also, what level of security were usually employed - you don't need to give specifics, but jailing / sandboxing, whonix under qubes, special hardware...

I have no idea what payment with bitcoin thing you are talking about, you did not got paid by CPlay for producing.
Where did you get that idea?

DOST is fucking retarded, when are Americans going to get more liberal about this shit already? It's just pictures.

So a bunch of faggots hacked a CP forum?

All forums are honeypots. Requiring people to sign up, have accounts, have user information, etc. is unbelievably fucking retarded for a CP forum. The chats that require accounts are honeypots too. There should be no timestamps for posts, no accounts, exif data automatically removed, extremely simple UI, no filenames, just text (lowercase, standard characters only), no logging, very simple open-source code. Posts should be numbered like on /prog/, where each thread starts with No.1.

Just the bare minimum of what you need to:
a. upload and trade files/videos
b. post text

...but no, all these cp places have to be fucking honeypots and ignore security concerns.

If only for the fact the government can just plant CP on anyone's computer easily and also the mere accusation of being a pedophile whether true or false ruins lives CP needs to be legal. I'm not a pedophile, sure I could fap to a loli as I can fap to literally anything, but I have no special attraction towards them. I don't care about pedoshit but I do care a whole lot more about the power it gives people to destroy others lives. If we can live in a society where fags can bugger each other and some weirdo can go fuck his horse, then I don't really care about pedos fucking children, they're doing it either way. Businessmen, politicians, and anyone else who steps out of line with ZOG can suddenly have everything they've worked for in their life destroyed by a false accusation.

I'd rather they not as I want the heat on them instead of on white nationalists. Better police resources be dedicated wasted on them and hopefully I can reach out to some pedophiles and give them better software and OpSec information so they can evade the CIA Niggers better than I can watch as they put what I tell them into practice and see if everything was good enough or not.

Avatarfags blown the fuck out. Now when is a tripfag going to be nabbed for kiddyfuckery?

Canada Fuck Yeah!

This post man.

I've been on chans for a decade. I have always typed in the so called "reddit spacing" style (as well as a couple other styles I switch up between regularly for OpSec reasons) and in the last 1 or 2 years there have been regular accusations laid against me for typing that way whenever I use it even though I've been using that writing style now for a decade and still haven't ever created an account on reddit or ever used the site or actually read a thread on there. I've followed a few links there and seen the site briefly but that's it.

The only people who I believe are making these accusations are redditors themselves; for how else is it that they identify a particular writing style as being "from reddit" unless they use that site themselves?

So Mr. "reddit spacing" user, go back to your site, and leave us alone.

The 'reddit spacing' garbage is regularly used against Holla Forumsacks as a D&C and thread derailment tactic. It's hard to tell if it's always forced by a third party, or if some anons were stupid enough to buy into it.

If the latter, then the fucking retards don't understand that a paragraph represents an idea, and can be as short as a single sentence if need be.

You do realize that pedophiles that actually fug children generally don't even bother with CP right?

t. knower

If a CP site has accounts, it's a honeypot.

It can also just be the case that those 1% of users they are actually going to go after are all people they are targeting for reasons other than muh sexual orientation towards children.

Me the man autistic enough to make a thousand accounts using a simple script.

Timestamps for posts would not be an issue when there are not accounts.
The forum should not remove exif data. It will change checksums which would be a pain for finding duplicates and organising. Removing exif data only matters for OC, which is a small portion of content. It would require trusting the site to keep you safe, which is a stupid thing to do.
What do you mean by no filenames?
I am not sure about being just text, I live live previews.
Why only lowercase? I want to be able to use capital letters.

I agree that we need a simple forum without accounts.

lolib has some of the things you describe. It closed because the owner could not afford it. It is open-source. Here is the code github.com/TorCapybara/lolib

The only mental toll would be the one where you've baited and secretly monitored people and ruined their lives when you know you could have done something else like to persuade them of a different path, leave them alone, etc.

t. CIA nigger that can't sleep well at night but keeps the thoughts of ending it away by working very hard to try to set things right now

I guess that means the people who made accounts and then scraped the entire site so they'd have enough cp to fap to for years on an external drive or thumbstick and then left are safe heh.

Not true. Childs Play for example was not a honeypot at first and had accounts.

If you have siterips of Childs Play or other CP sites PLEASE share them.

It is an actual issue. I personally ran a script long ago though to monitor a textboard and it automatically could have added in timestamps for each time a post was made. The thing is, you want to throw up as many barriers as possible, and make your site as hard a target as possible, so the work of CIA niggers is not easy.

The reason is timestamps add an extra and unnecessary contextual clue to helps with tracking people. Believe me, I'm a fucking god at tracking and identifying people, and have succeeded in identifying targets in very extreme scenarios where very little information was available.

The only reason to have those timestamps is to give users a sense of how much activity is going on. A "x guests are on the site right now | x are viewing this thread" is a better way to give people a sense of activity I believe besides simply seeing new posts every day or tracking posts per hour/day/etc. In a case like this it still serves as a clue as to which threads generate the most interest on the site which together with analysis of the thread to see what kind of responses it gets further helps build a profile on the users but I think it's not that big of a leak and people do need a sense of activity less they abandon the place as "dead".

I notice a lot of pedo sharing circles on completely compromised shit that gets advertised incessantly on here and some other imageboards have a "post or be kicked" stipulation which is probably some vain attempt to stop lea from lurking or to weed out normies that would report them to the police or police who'd not post cp. It's not an effective defence strategy. The best format I've on the darknet for sharing cp was only up for about a week before it got taken down, idk why, but it definitely was a priority for them to take down for the simple fact it did not lend itself well at all to tracking users.

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If you're going to share CP it shouldn't be a forum at all.

In fact this is how it should be done:

0. No fucking accounts.
1. The site used should be permissive to CP but not exclusive to CP. This is important. Literally just make it a "post anything you want there's no mods here" site open to anyone.
2. The site should not retain content long. It should have a limited number of pages and threads plus expiration timers for threads of 1 month maximum but preferably 1 or 2 weeks.
3. The site should be barebones minimalist for speed, efficiency, simplicity, and OpSec. No feature bloat. Absolutely nothing unnecessary. Just the ability to create a thread, attach a file, write a comment, and respond to a comment. Very similar to 4chan's textboard /prog/.
4. Users should be able to delete their own posts the same it works here on Holla Forums. aka each time you make a post there's a password to delete it. Unlike on Holla Forums though the default password shouldn't be a randomly generated password, the default password should be no password, and users who are too lazy to fill in a password of their own should be subject to the potential that any random person could click "delete post" and delete their post by not putting in password.
5. The site should host a read me page that has a few guidelines written on it that the users are expected to all follow, it wouldn't be enforced mind you, but it's there to tell everyone how to behave. It would say something like this: Everyone on this site is assumed to be American. Use only American spelling and grammar and do not ever mention you are any other nationality. Do not talk about your personal life. Do not tell anything but lies on here. Do not ask for proof of anything or acknowledge those fishing for information. Do not ever mention any landmarks, businesses, weather, or any other details of your personal life or where you live. The purpose of this site is simple; share files without any restrictions whatsoever. There are no mods here.
I would then have site also host some scripts / tools which the user can run on his own end that will protect him. These would be completely open source and the user would be expected to take the code and run it and it would check files for anything that could compromise their shit in case CIA niggers upload files that are compromised in some way. I'd also have the site itself check files using the same script and reject anything that is compromised but the script for the user to run himself is just a double-protection / guarantee.

Threads would all start with No 1, there'd be no name, files would have no filename or any other information, it would just be a very fucking simple textboard-like interface.

When you post a file on Holla Forums there is the original filename for the file still and you can download it with that filename and then there is a randomly generated filename which unfortunately can also be used for tracking users.

I would literally make each file in the thread be named in numeric order. So...

1.png 2.png 3.jpg 4.pdf 5.txt 6.jpg 7.mp4 8.jpg 9.webm for example. It would just increment the number for each file posted in the thread regardless of the filetype (you won't get 1.png 2.png 1.jpg 1.webm 3.png for example).

Yes I am aware that when people are trying to save the files they will have problems with over-writing files they already saved from another thread. That's why folders exist though and it's the responsibility of the user to just create a new folder for each time they want to save content from a thread. I would probably make an automated saving button that appears on every post. When you click it, it saves the comment from that post, and the attached files for you, in an automatically generated folder, that is placed in your downloads folder. There'd be also one button at the top of each thread that when you click it, it does much the same thing, saving the content of the whole thread to an automatically generated folder.

As for file formats I'd allow, I would allow jpg, png, and gif for imagefiles and I would MAYBE allow PDF for documents and I would allow txt (which would be great for when someone wants to share a very long post that exceeds the maximum character limit I'd set for posts which would be 8,192 btw and limited to only the Basic Latin char set ( see pic related )

As for the video format I'd allow, I would only allow the most CIA Nigger proof of the video formats, probably webm or mp4, MAYBE I'd allow those both.

Elaborating on this further. I'd have scripts running on the site that automatically do this shit but I'd also have those same scripts hosted there, open source, with instructions for the users to run in on their own end as a double-check for greater security.


There would be thumbnails if that's what you mean. The thumbnail would be very simple though. I will illustrate with a post on this thread.

Pic 1 is a post in this thread. Pic 2 is how it would look on my theoretical site except you'd see something like "#71" indicating the post number followed by "[S]" which is a button you click to save the post and its content and "[D]" which is a button you post to open up a little field you can type the password (if there is one) to delete the post and press enter or hit the enter key to delete it.

So #71 [S] [D] (in top-right corner of the post).

As for the thumbnail.

The thumbnail for an image would be the same format as the image uploaded. You start a thread and upload "niggers.jpg" then the first file in the thread will be a thumbnail that is jpg format. You make another post and upload say "pepe.png" then you get a thumbnail that is png format. I would not duplicate Holla Forums's retardation in making every thumbnail be jpg.

When you leftclick the thumbnail it would expand it to the full size image in the thread. When you middleclick it then the full size image would be opened in a new tab.

If you're a dumb shit that saves the thumbnail, the thumbnail itself would just be named (number).(extension)

Thumbnails would be able to animate btw.

Anyone who sees a thread they like while browsing could just click a single button at top thread [T] which saves the thread.

I'd make the whole site easily navigated with just keyboard btw.

When starting a thread a subject would be required. Thread subjects would be displayed as ALLCAPS and if you typed something like "piss off cunt" or "piSS oFf CunT" or "Piss Off Cunt" or "PISS OFF CUNT" it would all just be automatically converted to "PISS OFF CUNT" so there could no variation in style for thread subjects, thus making it harder to tell apart anons making threads. (aka no "oh that's the kind who makes his thread titles all lower case again" etc. kind of shit going on).

Thanks for expanding.

Which site?

This will result in having to post the same things over and over again. Something will be requested, posted, expire, requested again, posted again, etc.

Hosting all files on the site will be too expensive.

Does not enforcing rules apply to spam?

I want all you pedoshits discussing making cp websites to gas yourselves right now. Having a secure website is a great topic to discuss. But if you are going to use it for cp just do us all a favor and off yourself right now.

Gas yourself.

It was listed on Tor Links 2.0 but is not there anymore. It was just some gallery and I think it was called something like Darknet gallery. It would host whatever files anyone uploaded to it and there was still a ton of things they could have done to make it more CIA Nigger proof. It mostly got used for uploading child porn and there was quite a lot of hurtcore and babies getting fucked that got uploaded to it which to me is gore-tier. There was also a fair lot of highly aesthetic nudes though of young teen girls and good resolution that ephebophile would like.

What's the difference between tor links 1.0 and 2.0?
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Yes absolutely. I would make it so there is literally no way to enforce any kind of rules, there'd be no moderator tools or account. There wouldn't even be a reCaptcha also (as if that shit ever stopped me from spamming). Any day an user could slide the board if they wanted to, they'd only have to deal with a timer (probably 1 second) that slows them down a bit from flooding so they can't post 100 posts in 1 second.

/prog/ had no mods and it was spammed every day like crazy but was still usable.

If every instance of a board running my software to show up on the darknet gets spammed so bad it becomes unusable due to botnets posting a hundred posts from a hundred different IPs every second I would consider "security by obscurity" aka making more instances of the board and then being very careful who I share that onion with and asking them to keep it secret OR I might consider various strategies to counter the spam based on what techniques the spammers are using.

If there are no accounts how do you deal with someone spamming your website as a form of dos?
Aside from the account thing, you can look at the fms on the freenet, it has an option to post with time delay if you want to make tracking more difficult; I'm not sure if you can post anonymously (not pseudonymously) because of spam, but if it's possible most people would not see you (because of spam). On the other hand you can have several accounts and can delete your accounts if you want, you'll just have to redo some annoying captchas each time you make a new one. As a bonus you can use the freenet itself for anonymous file sharing, which usually lasts way more than the methods they use on current onion sites.

That is how imageboards already are anyways and it works just fine. Hosting the same files forever, besides making things stagnant, makes things easier on the lower-level CIA niggers.

I think 1 month expiration timer is the most reasonable.

Most threads on a board like Holla Forums or Holla Forums on here probably don't last that long.

Pedophiles need to move away from forums to something more like a very simple imageboard as their main way to discuss their interest and share it. I want to make CIA niggers have to work overtime to catch them so the CIA has to expend more resources and really up their game to catch anons.

Assuming CIA niggers are lazy incompetent retards they might just be like "fuck it, I'm going to focus on nabbing the more retarded normie pedophiles off of facebook and google and such" and leave anons clever enough to use my software alone.

I am afraid to use freenet because of the concerns about it not being anonymous and the CP busts from it.
Is there any way to use freenet safely and anonymously?

Well the cianigger A.I could easily accomplish that. Not sure why it would try that though.
They are.

First gas yourself pedoshit. Freenet is for freedom not pedoshit. Second the only anonymous way is using a internet access point you don't pay for and can get to anonymously without cameras.

I wouldn't know sorry. My understanding is that the developers are working on a fix, but I don't understand the exploit enough to know how completely they have defeated freenet's anonymity, the police claims some 80 percent accuracy, but they have used bad statistics before.

Anonymity is a central design feature of freenet, if they get a problem they can't fix it's game over. Any way they can use to get pedophiles they can get to shut down anyone at all, there is no technical test to distinguish pedo material from political dissent.

I want to create secure sites and then let anyone use them for any and all illegal purposes from terrorism to sharing cp to whatever happens to be illegal in their particular country so I can actually prove my software is secure as shit. If only people that end up using my software just use it to discuss normie shit and share normie shit then it will never get truly tested.

Btw, I wasn't using any pajeetscript there, wtf are you talking about?

Don't tell this also but I am efficient in tracking and identifying people and just want to step up the game, it's too fucking easy right now, and I want to create an environment where everything is absolutely secure and yet I can still albeit with great skill, lots of time and dedication, etc. track any user and I like to set challenges too such as time windows because obviously if enough time passes and anyone continuously maintains a presence online they can and will be found but finding an user from barely any clues in a single day will demonstrate I have reached beyond CIA Nigger into ayy lmao territory.

I just got distracted and ended up making this, enjoy:

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Actually, there is a way to use freenet anonymously regardless of the current situation, to do so get some irl darknet peers. Otherwise I would wait a little for word from the developers.

Here are a couple things we can take away from this:

1. Don't ever talk to police. Video related: hooktube.com/watch?v=d-7o9xYp7eE
Case in point Warhead gave up vital information that the police and investigation team didn't even know about. Police deliberately use vague remarks and demands to get those kinds of results. It's not illegal to stay silent. You have your fifth amendment for a reason.
I'm not sure what laws Canada has for protecting their citizens, or if Warhead would have been granted American rights since he was arrested in the US, but still. There's no point in throwing all of your opsec out the window the moment you're arrested. Innocent until proven guilty, yada yada yada.
At least fight it up until then. You could potentially use that information to get a plea bargain (if you're guilty of anything that is). If you are guilty, especially as guilty as Warhead and Crazymonk were, you're going to be locked up for a long time anyway. Staying silent would have given them the chance to figuratively spit in the faces of the investigation team and court involved.

2. LEAs are shifty fucks who will do anything to get you behind bars, and you should be very wary of the practices they used in this investigation. The police need to have a moral and ethical code that they stand by, otherwise it becomes a slippery slope. Let's assume for a moment that Warhead and Crazymonk had killswitches on their PCs, and that they didn't get caught raping a child (a stretch I know but bear with me). They're arrested but they manage to trigger the killswitch, destroying all of the evidence on their drives. Since we already know that the police were fine with allowing a child pornography community thrive under their watch, they were fine with posting and sharing child pornography to gain a reputation in the community, there really isn't much in the way of saying that they'd be fine planting CP on their (the perps) computers. The ends would justify the means, after all. They made their arrest. But at that point, it's not even entrapment, it's sabotage. You are a dumb nigger if you think the police should be above the law just because they chased down the most heinous criminals.

Hmmm a minimalist darknet imageboard that lets you create new boards but has absolutely no board page, no board index, no nothing; aka each new board is hidden, might be a good idea then I don't have to create lots of onions necessarily just when one board gets targeted by a never-ending spamfest just make a new board.

Meme magics, hope, and prayer; aka what's keeping Holla Forums going right now.

That user's post you are responding to did not in any way indicate he's a pedophile. Sure you can just take a random guess and call any user on here a pedophile and probably be correct but merely mentioning CP busts doesn't make one a pedophile, it makes one a security expert. It could be drug busts, human trafficking busts, cp busts, it doesn't matter; it just proves shit is insecure.

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I read that claim before - the police in some bumblefuck burgeristan state claimed 80% traffic correlation, but the devs rebutted it

Anyway official current state of freenet security: github.com/freenet/wiki/wiki/Security-summary

Also quickie scroll down to "Won't attack X break Freenet's anonymity?", at freenetproject.org/pages/help.html

In any event just push the traffic over a VPN? I guess you could get an algo or something if you don't trust a provider: github.com/trailofbits/algo

I think Holla Forums uses captchas every few hours for each tor node using the website. If the captcha server is compromised this is can be used to track users as well as an account (say, one made for the postings under the captcha)

I think is cool that you're finding the same roadblocks that have already appeared elsewhere. A problem with an older to the fms forum software in the freenet, called frost, is that a single person with a script could flood every board on sight. The community hopped from different boards (board.name.1, board.name.2, etc) and the spammer followed, and at the same time this introduced confusion in the community. The "web of trust" in the fms is supposed to solve that problem.

As an anarchist a lot of what you're describing goes against my own principles (and it sounds like lolberg "sovereign citizen" shit). I recognize force (physical fitness, batons, pepper spray, tazers, zipties, and a gun) as a form of authority in and of itself that speaks volumes to me. I have the understanding that a police officer is not really binded by any conduct and will like any other human do as he pleases.

I am very paranoid especially after Breivik incident about uniforms to where I look at all uniforms as basically LARP shit, how do I even know if a police officer is really a police officer? I try to know the police in my area and I have very good photographic memory and I also use mentalist techniques in dealing with them (and anyone else). I am paranoid enough that if someone comes to my house I don't care if they have a police uniform or not, unless I know the officer, I assume it could be the fucking mafia/cartels/etc. after me. The other people I live with are similarly paranoid. The uniform don't mean shit.

Going silent is autism-tier. I'm not American - mind you. In Canada you should know this country is basically an anarchy, everyone does their own thing, and the government is too faggy and corrupt and incompetent and disrespected to matter. The police themselves speak out against the government when you talk to them in private. Everyone hates the fucking government.

Sovereign citizens and similar individuals seem to think they've found a cheatcode to life when they can yammer certain phrases or refuse to talk or whatever. That kind of thinking gets you killed. The law is a formality. You can do whatever you want and get away with it in this country as long as you got the right attitude and other variables going for you and you don't cross paths with the wrong people.

Put another way; the police are just their own gang (or gangs) and should be treated as such. One must naturally show respect and conduct themselves in the right way around anyone who is armed be they in a uniform or not and whatever be their associations.

My strategy so far actually works. If you're dealing I suppose with a system which has so conditioned the "players" involved into acting like robots then you might be able to deal with them like robots but in general humans are humans, complete with their vulnerabilities, biases, inclinations, wetware exploits, etc. and one must not ever forget that.

I have associates who've been in police chases, pursued, and yet never got caught and still have never been inside a prison. You can't just put me in that situation where I'm facing a judge, there is only a certain kind of people that ever end up there, and I am not of not of that kind thank god.

A law is only as just as the virtue behind it and can just be ignored by everyone if it's stupid. Laws also are not fixed in stone, they change and get revised and deleted.


...and this illustrates another idea of mine. The police can just shoot you if they want to and cover it up or give the officers involved a slap on the wrist and a paid vacation. They can also, if they know you're a betacuck type, just plant CP on your computer or manufacture their evidence, and the judge can basically do whatever the fuck he wants too and decide to go hard or soft on you based on if you're a cute girl or a creepy man he doesn't like or whatever.

There are many ways to keep the police at bay and try to keep off their radar as well as ways to deal with them if they are indeed "onto you" but it requires sophistication in mentalist/psychological techniques not sovereign citizen tier autism.

reCaptchas don't work, Holla Forums keeps getting spammed despite having reCaptcha for every single post you make, in fact it gets spammed so hard the entire board gets slid AND every thread gets filled with spam, all at once...

Literally the reCaptchas only slow down the legitimate albeit no so technically savvy regular users and theoretically some shit-tier pajeet bots maybe are getting filtered out.

What kind of shit did he spam? I started reading the links about freenet and it mentions tons of hidden text being put everywhere as a way to dos shit. Maybe if they had more restrictions like, only Basic Latin char set, no formatting the text to be size 0 or such, etc. that wouldn't be an issue as they couldn't create tons of invisible spam?

github.com/freenet/wiki/wiki/Security-summary#Frost

Thousands of posts with random characters. I think the "invisible" thing comes because frost fetches all the messages indiscriminately so it can't keep up.

I have a script that does the same thing and works to attack Holla Forums.

Since it's all random characters it can't really be filtered.

I don't bother to use it that much as I have a lot of other scripts I think are more funny.

What do you think of trying to make a filter that detects that a post is basically random characters?

I assume that equal weight would be given as to the probability of each character being selected.

That being the case I believe I could create a counter-spam script that detects that a post is basically random characters by taking a look at the content and measuring the weight/noise of each character if you know what I mean to determine within a certain level of accuracy that it's purely random.

When the content of a post is thus detected as random characters, I'd just filter it.

Other measures also are:

• Detect unusual amounts of unicode being posted and filter those posts, as majority of legit posts have very little unicode, but a random char spammer would possibly be expected to have more of it (if it uses unicode characters)
• Detect posts that have very little spaces and don't contain links in them. Normal posts the space character gets used a lot (in between every word), the exception being when someone is dumping links of course. Long random strings of characters with very few spaces would be indicative of spam.

This is how I'd defeat that kind of spammer. Now, if I was faced with such counter-measures to my spam, I'd just start spamming copypastas and saved posts, like happened here on Holla Forums awhile ago when every board got hit hard by posts scraped from the various boards, which were then posted in every thread randomly quoting posts.

Other way for me to spam would be to put random numbers without using any characters from the alphabet.

...and if that fails then I also have some combo scripts, some basic bots, AI shit, etc. that can spam simply by creating actual conversations that none the less are automated in nature.

I could then make my AI more and more complex to it can detect keywords, shill threads for me, sagebomb, post memes, intentionally apply disruption tactics, detect so called "reddit spacing" and call out anons on it, etc.


It's amazing really that the Internet, our energy infrastructure, etc. manages to continue to function knowing how vulnerable it all is and how easy it is to get around everything. Holla Forums is like a castle and no matter how well built the castle if you have people thinking around the clock ways to raid it, they'll keep finding ways.

Much better than random characters btw would be posts made by some kind of algorithm / using chaotic mathematics or such where it's not random at all and the weight of each char is not the same but keeps changing as the spam continues. That would be pretty much impossible to filter but you're free to give me suggestions as to how.

Sounds like someone didn't want this being discussed, did it hit too close to home?

well??????????????????????????

You are diluting and derailing the discussion.
fag!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

i like guv run cp ites

they are the only ones left and my best source for cp


i use protection

are you navy seals??????????


it is the hash of the file


the whole point of thumbnails is to reduce the size of the website. saving it in a losslessly compressed format is fucking retarded.


jesus christ the larp level go through the roof. you are such a clueless faggot holy shit

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cops confiscate drug shipment

reddit space

cops sell to lower tier drug dealers

reddit space

lower tier drug dealers sell to users

reddit space

cops say'"got cha" to ower tier drug dealers

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from the article in question

You need to understand how he feels. It’s destructive. Really difficult. I have been working in this field for 22 years. Seeing pictures
has no effect on me anymore.
But to sit online and talk like one of these guys ... Every time I’ve done it, I feel like I have to take a shower afterwards

Calm the fuck down
You fucking
autist
holy shit

This templeos larger has completely derailed the thread

XDDDDD

it was a video of silicone baby that looked realistic. Not sure why Jim gave a global permaban for it. The exact edit is still up on reddit

Do you want help with that?
If you or someone else is actually planning to start that I'm whiling to contribute to it.

Maybe but depends what you mean by "start it". I'm putting together ideas and testing out some scripts and stuff but I don't have a site to host shit or whatever.

Why use a site can't you just onion load-balance cloud instances like for example using a template like Streisand does (devops.host/blog/streisand-vpn.html)
You might be able to do some server-encryption as well so then just boot a shell and pull in the real bootloader through TOR or some shit and bam you've got Gracious Services (mindstar rising, peter f. hamilton)

Most of the visitors were police officers..

lol. stop larping, faggot

I am impressed to see all the pedophobic comments. STOP DISCRIMINATION

Same.
I mean come on, it's 2017 tbh.

why do people even use tor browser?
how the fuck can you trust something with such a massive code base as firefox, especially if you don't compile it yourself?
for all you know, the reason tor browser is """officially recommended""" is because it has spyware built in and in reality, you might be safer with just regular firefox
why not use w3m or links to browse hidden services through tor, since you won't be using javascript anyway?

sad days we are living in.

I kind of wrap it in a firejail with apparmor support compiled in, and tap dance a little on the security theater scene

Not into CP anymore though

(anymore)

Also the Norwegian paper VG has really been loading up to this, they got an answer today (Tounge of Odin only for now sorry) vg.no/nyheter/meninger/det-lovloese-rom/a/24167443/

It looks like they actually want to press the issue of discovering the legalities of this to what passes as a joke for Parliament (Storting) these days

They had this "Dark Room" series and now they are pushing the "Lawless Room" concept

good kikes go for ze shekels

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But the police did not use any exploits this time

Because it is easy to use it.
They do not think about it. Most people blindly trust software and use propiatary software like Windows.
True, but if the Tor project is recommending the Tor Browser, why not put the spyware in Tor itself?
Most people on CP sites do not even know the difference between Tor and the Tor Browser, not understanding they could use Tor without the Tor Browser.

Most Tor users have very little understanding of Tor. Without the Tor Browser they would just use Firefox, Chrome, or whatever browser people use these days. Tor Browser is still bloated shit, but it is better than plain Firefox.
A good thing about many people using the same browser is it reduces the possibility for browser fingerprinting.

Tor Browser is reproducible. If you compile it yourself, you get the same exact binaries as the offical release. In the release process, It's required for 2 different developers to repoduce exact binaries before it's released.

Please stop using that as an excuse,lots of people on the internet and here do and the majority of them aren't peadophiles.

You are just a sick fuck regardless.

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Aspergers contributes towards behaviors that neurotypicals do not suffer from and therefore alter said behaviors compared to the norm. Your position can be extrapolated to judging schizophrenics to the same standard of normalfags regardless of their disability just because you think in black and white and cannot handle shades of gray.

You mean "hypothesis". You must substantiate your claim with verifiable evidence before it can be called a theory.

That doesn't make any sense. It's pretty obvious to most people that read access to a picture does not cause suffering and that molesting a child does cause suffering. Most people are not willing to consciously cause unnecessary suffering. Your statement is as rediculous as saying that someone who watches videos of women being raped has probably raped women before or that someone who has watched beastiality videos has probably had sex with animals before. Do you realize how nonsensical that is?

Bullshit. Organizations like "Perverted Justice" have managed to get pedos arrested
for years now without ever distributing illegal imagery.

I bet this pleb doesn't even know about Umbra clearance.