Why are people on the Right always bringing up conspiracy theories about Saul Alinsky, Frankfurt School, Fabian Society, Foro de São Paulo and other people/organizations that most on the Left don't even give a shit about?
In every country they find this one left-wing organization and this one left-wing writer and start to babble about how their followers have infiltrated everything and are slowly taking over.
Why do they need this type of conspiracy theory? And more importantly, why don't they fucking realise how retarded this is?
because they don't have any actual proof or solid theory to fall back on
Isaac Garcia
right wingers can't into complex political analysis, so they have to look for one grand unifying boogeyman to blame for everything. r/ing that one Zizek webm about fascism
Dylan Lopez
because they don't have any actual evidence or solid theory to fall back on
Jose Brown
hot wheels pls fix your site
Christian Ramirez
It's interesting when you get to know the Right of more than one country and you realise their conspiracy theories are virtually the same, but with different people/organizations.
For example, what North American rightists say about Alinsky and Frankfurt School is *exactly* what South American rightists say about Paulo Freire and Foro de São Paulo.
Bentley Gonzalez
Heh, the organization I'm in is in that. Seems like a pretty solid organization to me. Evo Morales is in it. So are the Sandinistas and the Zapatistas. Of course, so is Cuba…
Elijah Thompson
Yeah but Jesus Christ, you'd expect the "they're infiltrating us!" narrative to have run its course by now. Who the fuck still falls for that.
Cameron Hill
I'm actually not aware of this. Socialism is irrelevant in Puerto Rico so there's no reason to vocally criticize it. Explain the Foro thing.
David Brown
It's like the Socialist International but
1. exclusive to latin america 2. a bit more left-wing than they are now 3. shit
Alexander Perry
I know what it is, explain the conspiracy. Why's it shit?
Noah Edwards
If you can understand Portuguese here's our Stefan Molyneux talking about it:
And the title reminded me of another dude that serves them the same purpose as Alinsky: Gramsci.
Grayson Allen
There are different degrees, but some believe them to be a creation of the KGB with the goal of implementing communism and so on, and so on. It's really the same thing you've heard a thousand times before about commies.
And I'm not going to talk about their politics because I don't want to derail the thread
William Jenkins
Unfortunately, no. I know five languages and none of them is Portuguese, yet.
Oh, so the argument goes that the FSP says one thing but they get together in their ivory tower and play pishe pasha and rub their hands and cackle about what their actual plans are? I'm pretty sure every political party faces some form of that. Hell, we do it with Republicans and basically any right wing or centrist party. It seems to me like they're infected with obnoxious Leninist "solidarity" dogma where you have to be buddy buddy with police states and terrorist apologists (Puerto Rico's Hostosians (NIMH) (possibly, I'm not actually sure)) and that's definitely a hallmark of the Soviets. Of course they'd have no reason to remain loyal to Leninism now that the USSR is gone. But it sounds at least partially true.
Rightwingers (and liberals too for that matter) are incapable of thinking in terms of systems or structures. Their critiques, much like their solutions, are individual-centric. So when something exists that they don’t like, they assume it must be the work of an individual or a shadowy cabal.
Grayson Butler
oh how bout how they always sit on obama.
for knowing bill ayers, like bill ayers was satan himself, instead of some hippie who bombed empy bulidngs
Hudson Hill
god i wish Alinsky was half as powerful and leftist as the right thinks he is. I was so disappointed when i actually read his stuff.
Charles Price
and satan
Luke Perez
Clinton has been accused of taking her marching orders from Alinsky since forever. I think she wrote something about him in the past.
Jaxson Gomez
Alinsky works for them because he has a few "work within the system" lines, so they can always accuse prominent Democrats of deep down being Alinskyish radicals.
Of course, the idea that these people will step up in a world where you routinely interact with (and depend upon) wealth, elites, the military establishment, the banks, wall street, some of the best minds in academia etc and you'll remain truthful to the commands of a shitty book you read at 25 is exactly the sort of things conservatives think is plausible
You have to understand that all of their arguments eventually reduce to "might makes right" and that on some level they are unhappy that they need to invest effort into maintaining a facade of intellectual seriousness; this is why namedropping and tortured shoehorned gultural margsism flowcharts are all they have, because they can't tell style apart from substance and essentially build their theories in a "cargo cult science" method. If this struggle were talking place in the way they'd truly want it to be happening, in their heart of hearts, it would be a quick act of repressive violence handed down from their Cuck-Emperor which not only doesn't feel shame about not having an intellectual justification, but exults in not having to display any form of intellectual accountability.
Elijah Carter
Well, if it isn't capitalism fucking up their lives, it has to be some Big Other thing doing it. Probably joos.
Andrew Howard
Correction, they think in terms of ethnic and religious groups, the individuals are avatars for hiveminds at best.
Josiah Gutierrez
Various scientific studies show right wingers are more fearful. So that could mean they are more likely to be paranoid conspiracy theorists. Seriously try joining a conspiracy theory site some time and hang out a while and you will see most users are very noticeably right wingers.
Adam Jenkins
Sauce?
Jaxson Adams
Even more interesting is why they seem to believe that high taxes and dominance from banks is the opposite of capitalism.
These people really seem to think that capitalism is like a romantic exchanging of goods between the farmer John Wayne and the horse breeder Gary Cooper.
