Been listening to a collection of speeches

what the fuck is with this obsession with spacing? A few months ago no one gave a fuck.

Well he does fall behind other speakers that I had listed, but he still has some gems here and there.

The speech for humanity is one of them.

I don't think impromptu helps in a long speech though. Take Trump for example, in his earlier rallies where he had no aid from an teleprompter at all he didn't move from topic to topic as briskly as some speakers like Hitler and Goebbels.

I never said Martin Luther was a good leader, I said he was a good speaker. Maybe if you stopped sucking cock, got off your knees and focused a bit more you wouldn't need to rely on your daily (((meds)))

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There are a few great speakers today, but the quality of overall speaches has gone down significantly, I think the decline started after JFK in all honesty. His last speach was almost Hitler-tier good, and then he was (((assassinated))) I wonder if thats what is keeping people from trying to inspire others with words.

Most great speaches combat the narritive in some way, it gives rise to new ideas, hope, inspiration, directly attacking (((them))) in a sense.

Think, not every great speaker gets assassinated, but every notable assassination nearly invovles a great speaker.

is this new obsession with spacing some new divide and conquer meme from CTR?

we still don't. the people crying about it are CTR or Goons. in other words they are Hillary Clinton devotees that are doing everything they can to disrupt what they perceive as Donald Trump's voting base.

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It helps to have a sheet of paper with lists of things you want to talk about. I did read somewhere that all Trump uses is a paper with a bunch of facts that he uses, while besides that he just goes impromptu with his specific wording of general topics. That's been the norm since political debates first started. Hillary is particularly scary because she seems to be able to memorize entire speeches word for word. Plenty of people do that for inaugural speeches and big events, but I think she does it out of fear of being like Trump and saying something that people will get triggered over, even if out of context.

No she doesn't memorize shit. If you watch the debates she reads from her little list and checks things off as the debate goes. During her rallies you can clearly see she's using teleprompters (as does Donald Trump).

Don't you remember the amusing toadie that runs up and grabs her stack of bullshit off the podium after the debates? The kikey gray haired fucker with glasses and a moustache. He's like Dr. Harambe in regards to him always being physically close to Hillary during the debates.

Perhaps, but does accent play a role in speeches where they aren't English? Goebbels for example, I believe most if not all of Holla Forums would agree that his notorious Jewish Press speech is captivating and powerful regardless of whether or not they agree with the content.

Yes she does, and she's good at it too, as are plenty of American politicians. You can tell because she speaks in an unresponsive manner, hence during the debates Trump would make commentary and Hillary would give creepy smiles. Teleprompters are a crutch for politicians who memorize their speeches, and it does make them look weak, but she has gone without them. Also consider that she never ever says anything leftfield like Trump does. Idk about the toadi you're talking about though, I'll look out for him.

I feel like the key to being a good speaker is their impromptu nature is a bit lacking as an answer.

When Trump first came on the scene, you have to admit that his "Mexico isn't sending their best" segment wasn't great. And I'm not talking about content here, just in his presentation and deliverance.

It felt a bit messy and not fluid.

Kek. Did that actually happen? Was the gray haired fucker a part of the DNC or was he just some nobody who'll probably be found dead by suicide by shooting himself in the back of the head 15 times?

I think the intonations, emphasis, and pausing is mimic'd by other language speakers yes. If you were alive and dealt with Europeans or Americans in the 20s-60s you couldn't escape hearing that fake accent. At least to me it's plausible that the style can be evoked in other languages… I mentioned Hitler specifically because I think even though his speaches were in German he used similar oratory stylings to what you hear in the transatlantic accent speakers.

Huh that's interesting, that might actually give an explanation as to why other speeches around that time such as Stalin's and Mao's were much more lacking…

Actually I thought it was great. Your MUH PRing right now. What you see as a weakness I see as a strength.

No she doesn't. During the rallies she reads from teleprompters just like Trump. During the debates she had everything written down, and would scratch points off as she spoke on them. Are you fucking blind, or working for Shillary? She doesn't memorize shit, she can't. She had a traumatic brain injury and it destroyed her memory.

I distinctly remember that guy ran up and grabbed her stash for sure on 2/3 of the debates. As I mentioned he seems to always be around her like Dr. Harambe.

She reads 'speeches she previously memorized, The prompter is just a fail safe.

You just went full retard.

Speaches died with television because human monkeys only pay attention to visuals and soundbites if permitted.

I can't embed the time code, but here's one of the full debates. Not embeded because timecode:

youtu.be/GQFGTDFvMSc?t=5728

watch for pic related guy grabbing all Hillary's shit in a panicky sort of way

Maybe I should clarify. Don't get me wrong, you're absolutely right that it was great however, there are parts where you can tell it feels a bit messy. Like he has a coherent thought and then something interjects.

There's a part where he says "they're not sending you… They're sending with lots of problems and they're bring those problems with us"

A completely impromptu speech will have these hiccups and can give a messy feeling to it.

Watching it again I actually had to do a double take and reconsider my original point until it reached that point and I guess that's what stuck out most evident for me personally.

dubs wasted on a fucking shill

Nigger please you're on the verge of losing your your job and you probably need those shekels to buy fried chicken.

For your transgressions you get two pics.

Don't worry, there's still great speakers, like President Umm Uh If If and Guacman

One big reasons of course is that our politicians today don't even talk about something real. It's just empty words about nothing.

I see what you're saying but that messiness is what makes him sound like he's more sincere and less robotic. That's his appeal.

Reading something you've previously memorized on a teleprompter, what don't you get about that? There's no way in hell Hillary doesn't have her speeches memorized based on how rigid her speeches are. As OP is pointing out the opposite in the post above this one.

kek

I don't know why but that was hilarious.

You are living proof kek is a fucking joke.

that you haven't been fired for such low-energy bullshit yet

There's no way in hell Hillary can remember anything due to her well documented traumatic brain injuries, and her recorded testimony of NOT BEING ABLE TO REMEMBER ANYTHING in front of fucking Congress.

You have to go back.

fuck. that's what i get for a moment's doubt. please forgive me

I feel that part of the problem is modern audio equipment makes it so that you shout for maximum emotive power. You used to have to really speak up for a microphone to work well, but now if you yell into a modern microphone with heavy volume compression it just doesn't sound right.

Makes it so you can't* shout

Again, what don't you get about that? Hillary is not off the cuff enough to do otherwise and she's sure as hell not going to stare at the teleprompter her whole speech, which you can see for yourself. Most politicians can memorize speeches, it's in the job description retard.

As mentioned above I'm almost positive I read something about this playing a role in the popularization of the transatlantic accent, but I can't find any articles and I'm about done with my 10 mins of searching.

There is nothing I don't get about you desperately trying to bait me into your circular logic. What you don't get is that I'm apparently orders of magnitude more intelligent than you are, and have quite thoroughly debunked you the point you're now a mere annoyance.

Piss off, shill.

I suppose but then you look at Obama for example and his "i-i-i-i-if" and Hillary's "woof-woof" and it's not great.

I'm just curious as to what makes a good speaker and I want to find the separation point between liking someone (i.e. I like Trump therefore I like listening to him) and someone who can control a crowd through their speaking abilities.

I've got a question, what do you think makes that fake accent so appealing? I mean if I was to put on an accent just out of the blue and adapt it as a way of speaking, what would make it memorable as opposed to just plain silly?

I sometimes wonder if all throughout history, during what we consider great, rousing speeches, some people were still rolling their eyes, and lamenting the dearth of good oratory, like they had in the good old days.

For us native English speakers it literally bridged the divide between the UK and the USA for journalists and actors. Allowing greater talent diversity for all English speakers on both sides of the Atlantic.

It also sort of gives an heir of superiority. Proper and well articulated speach is an indicator of education/intelligence. Think of something on the exact opposite end of the fake accent spectrum: nigbonics. Niggers choose to speak intelligibly; almost solely through colloquialisms. As a result niggers can't get normal jobs because they can't communicate effectively.

kek you sound a little mad there bud

A great example of why globalists can't impromptu, they're full of shit and aren't very inspired to spontaneously reword a previous statement.

Content and delivery always need to be distinguished. I don't think Trump's delivery is anywhere near as bad as the media makes it out to be, if anything sometimes he is too structured.

Project much, Rabbi?

Over-pronunciation as opposed to mispronunciation?

That's definitely providing some interesting food for thought.

The lost art of rhetoric, once a cornerstone of western education, now untaught. Like philosophy.

I can see how today it sounds over-pronounced. I should have used the word "enunciate". Shit-stained society lacks speakers that enunciate. The transatlantic accent was a conscious choice to enunciate so both types of English speakers could understand the broadcasts/films.

You got me there. I'm actually really really mad right now because you owned the shit out of me when you explained why memorizing a speech that you can read off a teleprompter in case you forget something is somehow illogical.

I somehow wonder if all moral relativists are also interracial porn fetishists.

I keep a .txt file of interesting things said on chans, I started it maybe a year or more before the exodus to Holla Forums. This type of spacing isn't anything new, I have people using this type of spacing right from the begging of the document.

We know.

We know.

Is different than reading. Yes yes, and again, we know.

Again. We know they are different. Thanks for conceding my point, Shlomo.

I didn't mean to imply it was new. I meant to imply the people trying to force meme "reddit spacing" are rather new since Hillary's spaghetti got spilled.

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Eric Trump and Rudy Giuliani were pretty great at the Republican National Convention, Stephen Miller has a lot of potential for a policy guy.

They are out there, it's just that red pilling is a slow process. I can guarantee you in 20 years you will see some impassioned speakers from our generation take their place in history.

I reported the nigger lover, but I'm sort of curious how retarded this Hillary shill is willing to make himself out to be before he an heros.

Anyway, I'll keep watching the thread in case someone finds any information about the recording/broadcasting technology playing a significant role in the topic.

This is the ONLY reason I want to grow old. We better be on fucking mars soon, that is where the next imperium will be created, mark my words. Japan has even predicted it multiple times in anime.

He was talking about you user.

You can't give a good speech if you can't memorize the entire thing, practice the rhythm and breathing needed to execute it flawless, and etch every emotional turn into your heart so that your passion ignites each key phrase. You have to become the person who can deliver the speech perfectly, even if that's only true for the five minutes you're giving it.

"Reddit spacing" is as old as /n/ and /new/, it was a D&C meme from the beginning

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Bullshit, memorizing the exact wording for a speech is a weakness. The ability to switch around words while saying the same thing over and over is extremely impressive and any good speech has something natural and spontaneous about it. The more time you spend on memorization and not on reflecting on the material and working on improv you become rigid.

MLK fucking sucked.

And a better speech is run through every iteration of possible deliveries until arriving at the best result before ever stepping in front of the crowd. What you'll find is that you automatically slip between alternate wordings based on the flow of breath and energy as necessary. Wittiness is for debates, speeches are dominated by dedication.

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Uncle Adolf practiced his speeches and their variants to the nth degree. And as such was able to put the best flow forward with the energy of the crowd

You're never going to get to that point, you will never feel satisfied with what you get, there will always be some small quirk that will bother.

Debates require dedication to debate skills and wittiness is extremely helpful when giving speeches just as with the ability to switch up the wording of a phrase or a joke wedged in. The best speech givers are people who have a lot of experiencing fucking up, and you fuck up way easier when you fixate on memorizing specific wordings. General ideas and impromptu is more essential to a good speech than relying on memory alone, besides there is a noticeable difference between someone who does one or the other.

That's the attitude you have while preparing, but you've already failed if you walk to the podium with that feeling.

Go to bed Trump, busy day tomorrow

Yeah being an arrogant dick is a great approach to talking to large groups of people. I'll have to try that sometime.

It's a mixture. Intellectuals look back at historical events and re-frame them to fit a larger mostly manufactured narrative structured as propaganda to advance politics. Great humans with actual oratory talent exist and inspire, because they carry a fire that lights your own.

Consider for a moment how far we have come in reverse engineering the human mind through trial and error. We are on cyclical paths of constant upgrade:

When you look at a perfectly formed woman or man, you feel a mixture of lust, regret, shame, desire, hope, fear. Then you hear them talk and the illusion is shattered as you realise they are far from perfect.

When you look at an old, ugly, malformed, disheveled, fat, disgusting woman or man, you feel pity and ridicule. Then you hear them talk and that illusion can also be shattered, as their voice, their command and expression, their poise or grace can transcend their physical infirmities and elevate them in your mind's eye.

The fat woman becomes the loving mother or grandmother who sacrificed her youth and beauty to raise and care for you. The ugly broken man with a bowed back and torn hands becomes the loving father or grandfather who built your life with his sweat and blood.

Now what happens when you have CURRENT YEAR impressionable youngsters looking at their elder orators? They see the fat woman on welfare, single parent, barely present in her child's life, complaining about men or race or the world not being fair. They see an old pervert, leering at them, a man who dodged the draft, never fought in any wars, wasted his youth on drugs and alcohol and then in abject and pathetic materialism surrounded himself with status bought, nothing earned. Spoiled generations who had 15% interest rates, massive GDP growth, cheap housing, stable jobs, who living in the perpetual shadow of MUHNUCLEARWAR voted for larger and larger governments which took more and more of their freedoms away.

This is natural and by design. This is EXACTLY what the young people in the 1910s saw in China, Russia and America. Then they got fucked. First economically, then militarily. A lot of them died, and out of the leftovers they rebuilt, sacrificed, and promised to themselves that their children and their children's children would never suffer.

These cycles repeat through history as a mechanism to create the incentives required to progress the technology to a higher level of prosperity. While I have no direct evidence for it, I am quite convinced a parallel evolved or foreign species is manipulating humans for tens of thousands of years, to rebuild their own lost civilizations, and they are simply running us all through the meat grinder of progress, carrot and stick. This process happens naturally over many hundreds of thousands of years, but is being accelerated artificially, and in this age of information it is easy to piece together this puzzle and see something smells rotten here.

I'd say, strap your dick to your leading leg boys, the jews are taking us to war (again).

It's because they aren't actually human so they'll never understand what moves us.

post speeches

Adolf Hitler's speech on women
youtube.com/watch?v=zRlfbUr852o

MSG Roy Benavidez speech 1991
youtube.com/watch?v=_oUtJxE4sjs

Rep. Gowdy Fights Back Tears as He Dresses Down IRS Official Responsible for Lavish Conferences
youtube.com/watch?v=5dFpam0IMbc

I fucking love that webm. That's a good webm.

This one always gets me on edge.

Speakers used to have to, at least for the most part, speak at events with no sound systems. Just speaking up in a room of people, basically, so everyone would shut up and listen to you while you're drawing the room's attention and making sure people in the back can hear you. You're going to develop a very different style doing that.

And yeah, compression (automatic volume control, basically) does reduce the need to speak at a constant loud volume, and when you do, it sounds just as loud as the quiet passages.

Also, modern people are generally just very low energy compared to ye unironic olden times.

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Who?

I've never seen this faggot's appeal.
Double for this nigger.

Half the people you named are, I believe, largely hype, purposefully generated by media and academia to achieve a most-nefarious end result.

Really? He's the creator of one of the only modern fascist societies today and you browse Holla Forums not knowing who he is?

The original Saddam Hussein, fought against jewish expansion in the Sinai. Arab National Socialist, muslim brotherhood tried to kill him for being too secular.

The red text is the most obiously reddit thing here. LOOK AT ME. Faggots.

I knew since OP mentioned his name this thread would be derailed heavily by shlomo,they hate him.

Your taste is redditcancer-tier. The only speeches that stir the soul are ones by Adolf Hitler.