Did Don win?

Ok guys, please tell me your honest opinion regarding the debate.

Did he win? In the name of Kek please let it be so. You Ameribros must not fuck up chance to fix your country.

Shills shoo away from this thread.

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no, it was a tie.

CNN's focus group said Trump won.

That should tell you how it went.

Sometime after last night’s debate, I was outside for a run and three well-built college-aged White men were walking toward me on the sidewalk. As they approached, I could hear the word “Trump” punctuating their animated conversation, (one of them referenced Trump’s jail comment). Nearer, I could see they had probably watched the debate at a bar and were returning home a little tipsy. As we approached, the closest man to me shouted “Trump! YEAAHHH!”, and I returned an affirming “MAGA”. He grinned.

It was a fleeting vignette of life in pre-Trumpening America that hinted at a new reality, much deeper and broader than the elite fear to know, beginning to impose its will on the gated mental communities of the liars and crooks and traitors and ingrates who have been running the show into the ground for so long .

What I heard unspoken but radiating outward like a supernova during that brief exchange was White men reclaiming their pride. Reclaiming their balls. Reclaiming their birthright. Reclaiming the nation their fathers and grandfathers built, from the diversity trash and trash-enablers who have spent the better part of the last sixty years conniving and scheming to take the White man’s homeland away from him and turn it into a formless soulless atomized market bazaar of corn and porn trading in the currency of anti-White propaganda and visiting endless lies and humiliations upon heritage America.

The Trumpening is the unstoppable riptide of proud, competent, clear-eyed and heart-swelled White men pulling diseased leprous America underwater and baptizing Her in the reinvigorated blood of White patriots. It is White America taking back what is rightfully theirs, from the grubby paws of the clockboys and the bomb brothers and the BLMers and the bluehairs and the parenthetically privileged and the slut walkers and the fat acceptors and the sneering academics and the vapid celebrities and the cheating chinese and the tim wises and the kardashians and the mudsharks and the cucks and the mexican drug lords and the gay mullatos and the oligarchs and the ethnic dining autist aficionados and the hypocritical virtue signalers most of all who imagine their wealthy retreats will forever shield them from the inevitable consequences of their self-abolishing moralism.

It is a sight to behold, and don’t doubt for a minute that the anti-White globalist whoremongers know the cleansing tidal wave is coming for them.

Yeah, he was sharp and composed, she was spacey and defensive.

Some anons are sad he didn't verbally rape her, but it was still a solid win.

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Well, that certainly is positive. I just want to have peace of mind knowing Trump will win the presidential election and jail the witch.

Some ppl on my country's board shilled, opinion there seems divided considering the debate. So hoping Trump did well, currently watching the recording.

great fucken post user. please tell me this is real

It was after 2nd debate

Trump was asked (again) whether he would gracefully (cuckfully) concede the election should he lose. He answered “I’ll keep them in suspense”. Shitlibs are screeching about his answer, which means it was a good one. Cosign. Trump has put the Leftoid Industrial Complex on notice that should there be even a whiff of vote rigging irregularity, his armies will rise up and deliver a thunderous blow to their pozzed garden party.

As Corvo explains,

I agree that he should have hit the Clinton campaign voter fraud plotting tapes at that time.

On the other hand, the (((media))) will be kvetching about Trump not agreeing to concede the election for the next 24 hours, and the Trump campaign will have the opportunity to hammer the voter fraud tapes.

The legacy and utterly discredited media will kvetch, and it will open the door for Trump to make hay of the O’Keefe undercover videos revealing deep DNC involvement with voter fraud and rally violence. Score another one for The Trumpenkrieg.

PA adds,

Well, the first time he gave a conciliatory answer — “yeah, sure.” This time he had the opportunity to show us the depth of his commitment.

Trump is a fighter for heritage America. It would be un-Trumpian if he abandoned the fight in the final round.

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Sorry about that my phone derped

Definitely especially with his closing statement.

Shillus goawayus

Nice pasta.

Yes. Because he smelled that if he was too mean the killary team would say trump is a verbal woman abuser.

He held his composure and raped her not only with indirect words but because he kept his cool. Unlike hillary where everytime trump dropped a redpill she would go white. Halfway through the debate when trump started dropping wiki and podesta redpills her annoying smirk went away. She left the podium at the end with a worried lool kek

Nah he hangs his ass every debate. He lost, he's done, the election is a lock, Hillary is going to win and there's nothing you can do about it. Just have to accept it now.

You know, kidding or not, she wins, and I'll find at least one person that smiles when thinking that exact thought, and I'll end their story.

Yes, he won. He could have done without the 'Wrong' and 'You're the Puppet.' Hillary got called out hard on open borders, looked crazy with the Russia/WikiLeaks shit, dodged hard on pay to play, smiled like a fucking killer.

Personally thought the "wrong" comments were smart. Rhetoric is all about sticking ideas in people's heads, and he made sure that any damaging meme Clinton fired at him had the "wrong" sticker firmly attached to it. It may seem silly from a logical standpoint, but le persuasion man would call that 3D chess.

He won.

And he will win the election.

It wasn't incredible as has been typical, which unfortunately made it a tie visually. On a logical and moral standpoint, yes, he is obviously superior, but lets be honest, debates are about putting on a show, not good faith philosophy or reasoning. Because the media is fully behind Clinton, they are able to take a murderous, lying sociopath and give her the same "credibility" as anyone pointing out all those problems. Kind of like if you brought a criminal into court, but the judge, defense, prosecution and the jury all ignored anything the criminal might have done and instead attacked the witnesses. Now, there might be an angry mob outside wanting the criminal's head, but right now the (((official))) narrative was much more controlled than I would have liked.

Trump did miss some good opportunities. Maby he has some 4th dimensional tricks up his sleave, but this was unfortunately lackluster on the surface.

This is what my seventy year old mother said word for word, and she usually gets full triggered at anything pro-life.

This, I think to anyone watching them Trump won by scaring the living shit out of Hillary just by speaking the truth. Fucking nobody buys this "lel it's Russia" story, and everyone understands that no-fly over Syria = WWIII.
He did just what Nige said he'd do.

Adding to that, Trump just needs a "who are you" moment to win in a fucking landslide.

Shoo, Shlomo. Your tricks won't work here.

This is a pretty good analysis. It does sound like he wants to extend the discussion on this issue all the way until the election. I was thinking the other reason why he didn't go into this breathing fire was so he could dispel yet again the temperament issue, not look like a conspiracy theorist like the left has been saying all the while still being able to wreck her shit.


I didn't see this. This may be why CTR are rigging polls all over the place. CNN had to let the focus group be honest for once because they got caught manipulating things last time.

He won, but I wanted him to cause her to have a seizure live on national television, so I'm a little disappointed in that respect.

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Grabbed her by the pussy.


First post, never fails.

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The moderator brought up wikileaks and the Hillary campaign went into full damage control.

Whoops

IMO Trump has the lead, he was saying his point clearly and bantering a bit.

For Hillary she was on most questions trying to walk on ice with moments of ranting on the points she has rehearsed and some damage control:
- Think of the childrens, and the feels
- Middle class vote for me, I'll give money for you. Also I'll protect you from special interests and corporation

There was also some point I think where she was still on "everything is fine, the economy is running well and the debt is going down" or something, mostly to prepare some ground in case she lose the election (economy crash, everything was running well before, it's Trump's fault)

why always the first post? you'd think someone capable of making a company that solely shitposts online would be able to give a simple directive like "blend in" instead of making it obvious as fuck.

Unless you actually support don but you need those shekels in which case kill yourself too, you worthless human trash

Yeah but CTR is rigging the online polls, they're going to ignore their own focus group in favor of online polls tomorrow. CNN is so sad.

HOLY FUGGING SHIT DUB'SMAN

I got the same impression. Trump does best when he is angry, so this time Hillary avoided agitating him too much, she just kept sidetracking Trump with irrelevant distractions and running out the clock.

.. and the, '/you're/ the puppet!/'. How many dimensions is that game in?

I hope he won, that just sounded like she got a shiv through his armor.

Holy Shit

This was their plan all along. They've been intentionally keeping interest rates low to keep everything looking like roses, but we're sitting on a gigantic bubble of shit right now, and when it pops, we're going to be in the worst economic situation we've seen in nearly a century. Wages for middle/lower-class Americans have gone down since '08, productivity is down, our GDP is faltering, banks and billionaires are stuffing their mattresses…

Anybody who sees the real numbers and understands them has no way of saying 'everything is fine' with a straight face. Even if they won, the economy would collapse a year from now, and Don and every right-wing pundit would be screaming I TOLD YOU SO at the top of their lungs.

Remember kids, the only valid informations you get from us.

What a coincidence.

Probably a tie, but persuasion cartoonist says slight win for Clinton on points.

Dilbert man says whatever will give his blog more views and therefore give him more book sales.

It went over better with the normies than it did with the hardcore supporters lusting for a bloodbath. Thus, he won. These debates are for nornies in the end.

I can attest to this. I was pretty upset about the missed oppoutunities until I talked to my family and they thought he did really well.

He's said that for every debate. No matter how much he predicts Trump winning, he's still a vegan Californian and has the policy biases of one. He just cares about his book shekels.

Debate night in America, I'm drunk as fuck, yet my wit is sharper than anything any normie can come up with. All thanks to Holla Forums, it's awesome. You hear me faggots, I said it's awesome.
AWESOME

Hillary Clinton lost within the first 5 minutes.

We were blessed with a fantastic moderator this time around, and it really showed. Its amazing how much damage Don can do so quickly when the cuck mod isn't interrupting him every 10 seconds. The mod even brought up some shit Hillary wasn't prepared for, and went off script, which was fucking hilarious to watch her squirm.

I believe he said Clinton won the 2D and Trump on the 3D in the first debate.

Then he said Trump slaughtered Clinton on the second debate.

Is this actually real life?

Also I just noticed my Trump sign was nicked by some faggots walking by my house. My house is on one of the main streets in my town. Anyone have any legal suggestions on how to stop sign thieves?

I'll be honest.

I thought his response to the Syrian Question was really inarticulate, incoherent, and highly Zionist. My interpretation of the man's politics of regarding Assad as a potential ally in addition to creating a greater Shia control of the Middle East backed by Russia was entirely quashed.

He got all Neocohen about how it's "So sad." there in Aleppo (what with it 'falling' back into the hands of the legitimate Syrian government). That was essentially what Raddatz supposed with her question in the second exchange.

Frankly it's a shame that he doesn't specifically spell out that Iran, Assad, and Russia are all legitimate factors of eliminating the corpulent, Wahabi Saudi shitheads that have America's governing class in a stranglehold.

Call me a shill or JIDF I don't care; what I said was an accurate portrayal and rendition of what Trump supposed tonight in his ramble on Aleppo.

I'll call you a shill just because you asked me too. Trump has made it abundantly clear we will work with Russia to take out ISIS.

MEANING SYRIA AND IRAN ARE OFF THE TABLE YOU FAGGOTS

Absolutely not the case. He played down his recognition that Putin hasn't done anything wrong and stated that his (Putin's) "outplaying" of the State Department was unacceptable.

What is he then saying? Fuck Russia over in Syria?

Also, you can't have Russia and be without Syria, or have Assad without Nasrallah, or Iran.

The solution comes through removing Sunni governments, chiefly the Sauds, Jordanians, and Qatari.

what the fuck
this is like something you'd see out of a video game or a movie

yes, Trump easily won

Clinton got a few decent jabs in but Trump overall had the better of her and came across far more 'presidential', while she seemed like a shrill harpy having a meltdown
also she pulled some really weird faces which made her look like she was completely drugged up

Tie an aggressive dog to it. I don't know if that's legal, though.

Yes, it's real!

Read between the lines.

His most recent, and coherent, policy proposal? The one about foreign agents and slashing the connections between lobbyist
S and ex Co gressmen?


He is going to destroy AIPAC. Utterly and completely.


He mostly just iterated thT Aleppo is basically already fucked. There is no saving it now.


He cant be blatant, he actually wants to make it to the Presidency.

You willing to back up the claim that Trump didn't say we shouldn't work with Russia to stop ISIS?

If I wasn't so moved by your prose, user, I would have to call you a massive faggot for that kind of blogposting. :^)

I should have said

yup

He's basically stating the incorrect belief that it was the Syrian Civil War that caused Assad to go to Russia, as well as Iran, which he lumps together as presumably the US having lost Assad as an ally.

That's the most favorable read you can have of that statement. Though Syria and Russia have been allies for much longer, what is wrong with them "going" to Russia at all? Or Iran?

Just looks like Trump saying yes, to your point, it's bad, but it's so bad that the United States (and Israel, good goy) could've done a better job if that "red line" had been followed (US intervention).

roast me..

Next you will tell me he answers to AIPAC

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He has explicitly said (against his running mate) that he will not go to war with Russia over Syria

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I hope so. I wish I could just spell it out for him though, the Shia are not the enemy and Iran "becoming powerful" isn't bad at all when the end-game is making Saudi Arabia useless.

Like, if any Trump staffers are reading this, let me just say it clearly:

Houthis in Yemen, Lebanon, Syrians, Iranians, and Shia in Iraq are as stable as a anti-Saudi group you'll find second to Russia joining in any US intervention in the Middle East.

By taking that side you'll accomplish a few things, namely further complicating Israel's ambitions within the region (Yinon Plan) and also removing the power of leverage from pretty shitty places like Jordan.

It isn't ideal, and doesn't sound sexy, but Iran and restoring a greater Persia-Shia powerblock is going to end the sectarian conflict of the ME and pretty much kill any possibility of a Wahabi caliphate emerging.

Plus I'm sure that agenda would also bring us to clearing up Chechnya in time, and that's pretty cool in my book. NATO also falls apart but who cares, Europa has perished from Internationalism. Putin fills that void; he dindu nuffin wrong anyways.

Am I crazy if I think she's hotter in the before pic?

no because that's what a woman looks like without the cosmetic jew

No, the original pic is great. Shes cute. She looks like a whore in makeup.

You're a fucking degenerate that needs to sway in the wind.

Don't forget Megyn Kelly said it was his best debate yet

she looks better without makeup, the makeup in 2nd pic is shit.

I actually think you are correct and as far as I can tell the Sh'ia are the only muslims worth anything. That being said the United States is aligned against Iran and until Israel is not longer a factor that won't change.

nope.
looks like she may have a fivehead, but that's fine with bangs

I wonder (((why)) and (((who))) could've perpetuated such a notion.

Nope, she looks hot

Nvm I just read your reply too quickly. Right. Let's fix that.

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Put this shit on your sign. It's hard to see, and if you get it on your hands, it's nasty as fuck, and sticks like crazy, stinks and is very uncomfortable. Nobody will run off with your sign with this shit on it.

Exactly one day God willing webm related will be true

Victory is mine, faggot.

1st pic I would pursue
2nd pic I would avoid

she's cute

Personally I was disappointed. After the 2nd debate I was expecting Trump to absolutely decimate her again. He made some very strong points, but it wasn't the landslide victory I was hoping for.

IT'S THE SAME GIRL!!!

You had me with you until this line. I can't bring myself to agree with someone who uses such awful language. Don't you know trash is a hateword?

Swaying in the wind is victory?
Kill yourself then, you don't have to wait.

We know dumbfuck. We're saying a woman who doesn't slather herself up with layers of warpaint is more attractive than the vapid instamodel look of pic #2.

It's like drawing a stylized mask on top of a face, it loses all natural appeal. Women are a meme, indeed.

They wanted to argue that Trump was wrong to say Aleppo hadn't fallen.

Of course he isn't going to suggest he was somehow wrong for saying the area has done poorly due to Obama's and Hillary's foreign policy there.

You'll notice he never suggested Russia/Assad bombing ISIS in the region was somehow bad the way the Democrats have been wanting. That's something Hillary was likely hoping for due to wanting to frame Trump as a Putin stooge.

Holy shit we need a jewtube link or other normalfag friendly link to propagate on kikebook and the like.

MAGA

So this is what

SHUT IT DOWN!

Looks like.

It's a further loss of American dominance in the international arena. At one time, the US could seemingly make demands of other countries and expect them to be met, now they can just go to some other party and tell the US to fuck off for the most part.

That's not really a good thing.

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no, Gensyoko is real. 3D is the fiction.

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2nd > 3rd > 1st
Could have gone better, but Trump still won the debate, even if slightly

Trump won, although not by as much as he should have. He lets Hillary off far too easy when she dodges a question. Like instead of defending himself about his relationship with Putin, he should simply just point out that she's deflecting and bring it back to wikileaks, bringing the discussion back to the contents of the leaks which is where it belongs. If she still goes back to "Russia, Russia, Russia…" she loses because she already got called out for deflecting once and it becomes plainly obvious to everyone if she does it again. If she actually addresses it, she also loses because everything about the wikileaks stuff is bad for Hillary no matter how you spin it (which is why she deflects every time).

Overall, still a win for Trump because Hillary had no answer for anything, but I wish he'd capitalize more on his opportunities and make it plain as day to every single person watching what a corrupt liar she is.

I'm not an Ameribro, but in my opinion, yeah. He kicked her ass as always. No contest.

That said, I didn't find the debate itself as exciting as the previous two. I guess it's my own fault 'cause I had a lot of hype built up for it, but it was mostly more of the same.
Here's how much I personally enjoyed all the debates:
Second > First > Third

I will say Wallace was a less shitty moderator than the previous ones, though. I guess (((they))) must've had no choice but to back up and do some damage control after everyone got wise to their bullshit the first two times. Don't get me wrong, though. He wasn't a perfect mod either.

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What did they mean by this?

Checks out. No record that needs correcting here.

this is 1984 levels of censorship

P U P P E T

fuck off

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Jesus fucking Christ

HE IS LITERALLY SODOMIZED BY PUTIN

HE IS THE CUCK

THE PUPPET

What an underwhelming debate, I'm very disappointed, I still think Trump won, he had the upper hand in pretty much every topic, but he didn't destroy her, as he could.

filtered

HE SAID THAT PUTIN DOES NOT RESPECT HER

AS NOT BEING RESPECTED BY AN OPPONENT, BECAUSE RUSSIA IS AN ENEMY OF THE US, IS A BAD THING

HE IS A PUPPET

Typical CJN (Clinton Jews Network) at work, digging its own grave as usual. They're not even trying anymore. They're just completely destroying themselves.

He had so much ammo with Wikileaks and veritas but he didn't use it. All the msm attacks are based on words he used and the not conceding part (this would indicate he did well). The CNN poll still had Clinton winning However the margin by which she won was the smallest of all 3 debates meaning over the course of the 3 trump convinced many many people. It's hard to call I think uncertain people will vote Hillary because of constant msm bashing. It is our job to make these people certain about trump.

that's normal, she's a woman.

CTRstop embarassing yourself

>>>/auschwitz/

not enough wikileaks mentions
like holy fuck all the dirt is out there for you to throw so throw it nigga

I pick up a 1984 + Idiocracy vibe from that video for some reason. Something about the sarcasm in the host's voice when he says "oh nooo" makes me feel like he knew it was coming and is too stupid to actually give it a reasonable cover story.

Also, who the fuck uses satellite links anymore anyway? My understanding is that almost all aspects of the media use cellular LTE networks and the internet to do all of their remote interviews and in-the-field segments nowadays. It's way fucking cheaper than using satellite time.

topkek, your such a fucking loser CTR i hope you don't end it all before the burgers can hang you cunts
polite sage for off topic

Before Donald Trump, USA was an inhabited Sahara. Those who found themselves between earth and sky had no content, other than waiting. Someone had to come.

We all traversed the American desert, incapable of anything. Contempt itself seemed an effort to us.

We could only contemplate our country under a negative light. In our moments of maddest hope, we granted it the momentary justification of a good joke. And USA was no more than a good joke.

We spun around in the free air, empty of past and present, enjoying the sweet debauchery and the lack of destiny.

This poor country was a vast pause between a beginning without greatness and a vague possibility. In US the future moaned. In one, it boiled. And him, he broke the sweet silence of our existence and forced us to be. The virtues of a people were incarnated in him. The USA of the possibilities was heading towards the USA of power.

I only had a few meetings with Donald Trump. I immediately understood that I spoke with a man, in a land of puppets. His presence was troubling and I never left him without feeling the irremediable breath, the crucial breath which accompanies existences marked by the inevitable. Why would I not admit that a strange fear took hold of me, a sort of enthusiasm full of forebodings?

The world of books appeared useless to me; the categories, inoperative; the prestige of intelligence, drab; the subterfuges of subtlety, vain.

The God Emperor did not suffer from the fundamental vice of the so-called American intellectual. The God Emperor was not “intelligent,” the God Emperor was deep.

The spiritual disaster of USA stems from thought without content, from intelligence. Spirit’s lack of consistence transforms problems into elements of abstract games and steals from the spirit its character of destiny. Intelligence degrades even suffering into chattering.

But those of the God Emperor, weighty and rare, rose from Destiny. They were made somewhere, far away. Hence the impression of a universe of the heart, of a universe of the eyes and of the thoughts.

When, in 2015, I told him how interesting it would be to tell the story of his life, he told me: “I have not spent my life in libraries. I don’t like reading. I stand here, and I think.”

These here thoughts have founded our raison d’être. In them, breathe nature and the sky.

And when they began their realization, the historical foundations of the country were shaken by it.

Donald Trump did not pose the problem of the immediate USA, of modern contemporary USA. That was much too little. This would not have accorded either with the scope of his vision, or of our expectations. He posed the problem in ultimate terms, in the totality of the national becoming. He did not want to correct the approximate misery of our condition, but to introduce the absolute into the day-to-day breathing of USA. Not a revolution of a historical moment, but that of history. The Centipedes would then have to not only create USA, but to redeem her past, fertilized by an immemorial absence, to save, by an inspired and unique folly, the enormous time lost.

The Centipedes passion is the expression of a reaction, in the face of an unlucky past. This nation has shone in the world only by its permanence in misfortune. Never has it been otherwise. Our substance is an infinite negative. Hence the impossibility of overcoming the oscillation between a dissolving bitterness and an optimistic fury.

In a moment of discouragement, I told the God Emperor: “God Emperor, I do not believe USA has a meaning in the world. No sign in her past justifies any such hope.”

“You are right,” he answered me. “Yet there are certain signs.”

“The Centipedes Movement,” I added.

And then he showed me how he perceived the resurrection of the European virtues. And I understood that between the Europeans and the Centipedes was the pause in our being, because we are living USA’s second beginning.

The God Emperor gave a meaning to USA. Before him, the American was only American, that is to say a human material made up of drowsiness and humility. The Centipede is an American of substance, a dangerous American, an inevitability for himself and for others, an infinitely menacing human storm. The Movement, a fanatical forest . . . The Centipede must be a man in which pride suffers from insomnia.

We were used to the second-hand patriot, gelatinous and empty. In his place, appears the individual who considered the country and its problems with a terrible relentlessness. There is a difference of spiritual density.

He who has given to the country another direction and also another structure united in him elementary passion and spiritual detachment. His solutions are valid in the immediate and in the eternal. History does not know, in this world, a visionary with a more practical mind and with such skill, sustained by the soul of a saint. Equally, it does not know another movement in which the problem of redemption goes hand in hand with the peasantry.

To build and to save, politics and mystique, here are the deplorables, which he made his end. He interested himself, in equal measure, to the organization of a mess hall and to the question of sin, to commerce and to faith. No one must forget it:

The God Emperor was a peasant established in the Absolute.

Each believed he understood him. However, he eluded everyone. He had surpassed the limits of USA. He proposed to The Movement itself a way of life which surpassed American endurance. He was too great. One is sometimes inclined to believe that he did not stem from the conflict between his greatness and our smallness. It is however no less true that the time of persecution has made emerge personalities that even the most confident utopia would not have suspected.

In a nation of slaves he introduced honor, and in a spineless cattle, pride. His influence has not only shaped his disciples, but, in a certain sense, also his enemies. For these, the scoundrels, have become monsters. He (this) forced him(self) to be strong, he imposed upon them a character in evil. They would not have become hellish caricatures, if the greatness of the God Emperor had not demanded the negative equivalent. We would be unfair to the butchers, if we considered them to be failures. All realized themselves. One step more, and they would have aroused the Devil’s jealousy.

Around the God Emperor, no one remained lukewarm. A new shiver passed over the country. A human land haunted by the essential. Suffering becomes the criteria of value, and death, that of vocation. In a few years, USA has known a tragic palpitation, whose intensity consoles us for the cowardice of a thousand years of non-history. The faith of a man has given birth to a world, which surpasses Shakespeare’s ancient tragedy. And this in America!

On an absolute level, if I had to choose between USA and the God Emperor, I would not hesitate for a second.

After his death, each felt himself to be even more alone, but beyond our loneliness was rising that of USA.

No quill dipped in the ink of misfortune could describe the misfortune of our fate. However, we must be cowards, and console ourselves. With the exception of Jesus, no death has been more present among the living. Could someone have forgotten it? “Henceforth, USA will be led by a dead man,” a friend told me on the banks of the Seine.

This dead man has spread the scent of eternity over our human muck, and returned a sky to USA.

Reminder

Honest opinion: I don't fucking know. The only metric I'm using is who moved undecided voters and I don't know how those people think. I believe both made a good appeal to them to stay undecided, they threw shit at each other but nobody ended looking better than when they came in. The postdebate is going to be about
Hillary had some very weak moments (talking about Russia when confronted with the leaks) but it's not like the media is going to hold her accountable I think the only people that could give a shit about the first one are mental children but a lot of them exist. The second one is more complicated. The typical politician play would be to say yes and then if he loses say he doesn't accept it anyways. The problem is that judges aren't cleaner and the undecided who think he can't win aren't very moved by that kind of argument. But fucking hell, after the drama Gore pulled with good reason because a lot of scummy shit happened even if in the end I believe he lost Florida this could be manageable.
BTW the moderator was pretty good in regards to impartiality. He asked hard questions and called them out when they deflected and tried not to answer. It was a bit messy because very often towards the end the three of them talked at the same time for half a minute.


I punched the Wall when I realized he only talked about the mails to say Podesta had shittalked her.


I think he basically doesn't understand shit about what's going on there and Farage training helped him to not make it very noticeable but he has holes and once you take into account who would be advicing him it gets a bit worrying.

Pic related Trumps face when

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This was the best part of the debate for me. After a while, I realized that the moderator was fair for once by bringing relevant topics to both candidates instead of giving easy questions to Hillary all the time. Honestly though, he really should have tried stopping both of them when they go into a shouting match over eachother and let them speak in turn more often but ehh.

Overall, Trump's answers were far better and avoided skirting their issues far less. He sounded like he avoided the question at times but that was typically laying groundwork for the actual answer that he followed up with. He didn't avoid answering questions. With the unfortunate 'I'll leave you in suspense' bit. The media's going to run with that forever.

See Trump, you gotta have a private opinion and a public opinion.


Left is cuter. Right is meh.

The shouting matches were a good thing. Trump showed absolute dominance over Hillary, but she still tired to talk over him. This was a big psychological win

At this stage is the debate even relevant?

We're going to war. Hillary is clearly rigging the election.
And now we have the NWO being named by the FBI.

Perhaps, but he doesn't have to convince us. That kind of thing is a turn off for normals.

But ehh, I spent half the debate smirking at Clinton's answers because of how bullshit they are. From claiming to be for the middle class when her economic policy will shit all over them to trying to compare her 30 years in politics where she had an obligation to better the country that accomplished nothing to Trump during that time building up an empire where his only obligation was to his stakeholders. It was such a terrible comparison to make. I just hope they noticed that too.

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Yeah I agree. I think a big part of it is he's just too straight up and doesn't have that polished politicians banter. Where they can sound like they're saying something good because they're using all the buzzwords when actually they're saying nothing at all. And make personal insults and character put downs in a very effective way when they see an opening.

That's a very specific art of bullshitting it would take years to develop. Trump did the best he could imo.

He could have stated that if elected, Hillary will seek to establish a no-fly zone over Syria just like what was done with Libya and that such an action will this time lead to a direct, military confrontation with Russia over Syria.

He was holding back, even on immigration.

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That seems like it was intentional. Trump is probably going to spend a lot of the remaining time until the election talking about vote rigging, corruption, and cronyism in washington. This allows him to make this a central topic while keeping the media on edge, mostly because the media knows they are first to eat a bullet if anything goes down and they don't have the protection upper elites have.


I'm pretty sure he addressed that in the second debate though.

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No, he blew it

This debate was his last chance to persuade voters of his vision, and he could barely communicate a single cogent thought. When they started asking about Russia hacking the DNC, that was his opportunity to say "Why are we so focused on the source of these leaks rather than the content? Mrs. Clinton, do you deny the veracity of any of this?" Instead he wasted time talking about Putin. He could hardly string together a whole sentence. When they asked him point blank "Will you accept the outcome?" all he had to do was say "Not if voters are disenfranchised." Instead he delivered the gaffe that will likely lose him the election.

Good fucking lord this was disappointing.

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Yes, user. The Donald won by a score of 27-22 debatepoints. Hillary got on the board first, scoring 5 unanswered debatepoints before Donald came back hard in the second half to narrowly escape with the W.


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But seriously, you can't "win" a debate if there's no objective measure of score. It's an exchange of ideas.

The measure is whether people think he won or not. It's not about the debate, it's about what people thought of it. The purpose of the question is to see who won via the answers received to the question, BECAUSE there's no objective score to go by.

Hi CTR.

Listening to the radio now. Mancow seems to think that Trump won. Even played a clip where CNN was having a pity party because Trump did so well.

Clinton fucked up by trying to out-Trump the Trump with quips and interruptions. It blew up in her face and Trump was smug as fuck the whole time.

if there was an objective measure OP wouldn't be asking, now would he? He could just look it up. Didn't think that one through, did you?

Ann Coulter made a point that I agree with. This was the first "issues" debate that was moderated well. That format considered, he performed spectacularly to the average viewer. We all wanted a bloodbath, but this will likely work better in our favor towards the coming landslide Trump victory.

he was weak, mumbling, looked bored, and didn't bring much of anything new. the dumbing down of the dumbing down of his rhetoric. but i don't think it matters at this point, he didn't lose his composure, and everybody knows he's the fresh face, the future, and the draining of the swamp by now. people have made their choices (or they will according to what keeps happening online)

I can confirm his story with one of mine. I was walking home from work two days ago and overheard two mid 30's white dudes talking about (((Her))) emails, voter fraud, and rampant media corruption…i don't think you anons realize how deeply this election has touched the hearts of the working man…KEK WILLS IT

He revved up as the debate went on. First 30 minutes they were both low energy. I'll give you that.

The thing that the Clinton campaign needed badly, just to get the pendulum swinging in the other direction, was for Trump to revert back to first debate Trump and that didn't happen. Hillary was the one who took several huge steps down in terms of debate performance, and since Trump didn't humiliate himself by talking too much on unimportant topics, he gets to keep moving upwards and Clinton continues to prepare to flee to Qatar.

jesus christ, a perfect example of

SHUT

IT

DOWN

in action, live, on air, in front of millions

An most didn't notice.

I watched the first debate but not the 2nd or 3rd because I was working my job. The first debate I found really disappointing, Trump did a good deal worse than I expected him to do. That didn't seem to really affect his numbers much, somehow, which was a small relief; some polls seemed to show that he rose a little bit during that debate. I still thought his performance was really underwhelming. I need to watch this last debate myself but I really hope he did a lot better than that one, he seemed to be fumbling all over the place.

Trump also seems to have this bad(?) habit of constantly interrupting himself. He'll start speaking a sentence, immediately cut himself off, start again on a slightly different point or phrasing, and then do that 2 or 3 more fucking times. That shit irritates me to no end, I have no idea why he does it but it's terribly annoying to me. It's the ONLY thing I don't like about his public speaking. Although, he did seem to reign that in a bit when in the debates, but his rallies are rife with whatever you call that.

Regardless of the debates altogether, though, the fact that Hillary is even a fucking option anymore after everything that's been released is just a showcase of how horribly fucking rotten this government has become. It's a goddamn abortion of all that is good and just, Hillary should have been removed forcibly from the race ages ago.

Nearly finished it now. Hillary makes me zone out. I'd say so far, mostly Trump. Hillary had a couple of good hits in there, heavily rehearsed I'd bet, but hits nonetheless.

I'm guessing the spin is she won and Trump got salty and buttblasted.

Oh user you silly

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Don't feed the shills, moron

Yeah it seemed to me he often got a bit flustered and needed a bit of time to organize his thoughts, and thats why he skipped around a bit.

He should have gotten people like Farage to hit him with questions and counters and just practiced over and over talking for 5-10 minutes at a time without diverging from the topic.

Btw why isn't Hillary taking any flak for reading off a prompter? Or whatever it was that she had on the podium. That was so distracting it was almost silly.

How was it even possible for her to have anything pre-prepared in the first place?

Even the newspaper in Norway said he won, so yeah.

But she improvised it all user ;^) she is so much better than Drumpf.

Britfag here. Missed the debate

So in your most critical opinion, how did trump do? It's hard to gauge the reaction when all the media does is talk about how he refused to accept the result as if it's a bombshell story

Well, the bookies haven't changed much on the Trump/Clinton front - Clinton dropped from $1.18 to $1.17, while Trump stayed the same on $5.
Pence and Ryan were both on $101 yesterday and while Michelle Obama is at $501 to be the next president, odds for Gary Johnson have gone from $350 yesterday to non-existent odds today.

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Wew lad. Wheres this from?

^ CTR

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Welcome to real life. Also actually fucking real life:
youtube.com/watch?v=b24Yq1Ndnjo

It's always sunny in philly, its bretty gud.

Just because The_Donald talking points convince you, doesn't mean they work for the average braindead person


Makes it sound like he's admitting it's Russia. Also no doubt Shillary prepared an answer to something like this and would have a good response.


So basically what he said, just in legalese and politician speak? AKA what he has avoided consciously every debate?

It's not really, it's propaganda to move the viewer. They aren't there to try to ascertain what's the best possible solution for America and then adopt it, they want you to know they have the best plan and the other guy will destroy everything forever. It's why they pass messages that at its core are simple but are unable to give succint answers.

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Usually, a good measure to know if the don won or not is if there is a salt mine thread. There is no salt mine thread.

Who won the debate, i can't say.

But, there has been a really important moment that i fear has been largely overlooked by many of us and i think most of you are doing that willingly.

Trump has an overwhelming support compared to hillary. There is no question about that. But this does not in any way mean he will win.
Sure, i hope he will win, as he hopes, and everything will be great again peacefully. But, there is an off-chance this will not be so easy.
Trump warned us last night. He clearly told us the election could be rigged. And he told us he will not concede if that happens.
He also insisted on the importance of the second amendment.

Tie it all together and you should have a clear picture of what you already know.

The revolution might not be allowed to happen peacefully. Every user should let accept that and be ready for whatever comes. Drop the whisful thinking.
If you think you can have your freedom back without bleeding you insult our funding fathers.

[spoiler]>inb4 fbi
stock up on weapons and bullets lads, and pray God we're not forced to use them.[/spoiler]

Do you need to get doxxed again, CTR?

I fucked up spoilers the same way the other way lad, expect bullying. I'm fine with Civil War but I don't see Trump leading one, he's the kind of guy that could fight it in courtrooms.

He lost this one. Not as bad as shillary lost the second one or Kaine lost to Pence, but he fucked up in driving the conversation. She sleazed right through all the shit and brought it back to muh Russia or some other horseshit. The saving grace is that he said he basically said he wouldn't get fucked over with a rigged election.

Watch the 2nd and 3rd debates. Trump learned his lesson and was far more prepared, organized, and focused. He didn't make the same mistakes he made the 1st time and it's done a great deal of good towards furthering his campaign.

The rhetoric has changed in the media. It was obvious before and especially after the debate: This is no longer Clinton's small challenge to get over. This is Trump's race and he will be President. They are openly admitting it now.

CNN after last night's debate was pissed specifically because they couldn't spin this. There is no way of interpreting Trump's powerful performance against Hillary's weak, pre-rehearsed speeches.

So I guess Wallace will not be tried along with other journalists?

It should be illegal for a shill to be this bad

I think Hillary was hoping for Trump to go full Filterman because it was clear she had some kind of "conspiracy theory" talking point which Trump did a masterful job of not playing into. And even then, he managed to bring up some aspects of the Veritas thing completely unchallenged while not committing to an election result that's three weeks away.

vid related, it's Scott Adams.
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If i was your boss i wouldn't pay you for these posts


Neither you

Last night was the best debate.

He didn't need to verbally bare knuckle beat the shit out of Hilary in a cage match.

Yes, he could have, and it would have been glorious. But that's not what tonight was about. Donald Trump proved without the reason of a doubt that he is presidential, and while we didn't already know that, the normies now do.

The final stretch is pushing the voter fraud narrative, and the democrats rigging the election. Our goal needs to directly align with the Trump campaigns, which is too destroy the "integrity" of the Democratic Party.

Focus on that. Hilary is done.

why couldn't they? i mean they've spent the entire race claiming clinton is as strong or stronger than trump, even when everyone on the inside knew it wasn't true. What happened that prevented them from continuing to lie like they always have?

It's already doing him some favors. RCP already has Hillary trending down. I predict by next week the polls will say Trump again.

Hillary is scared shitless right now. She's already planing to high tail it to Qatar if that story about the money transfer is true.

Yeah. This debate was essentially a second chance for Trump to show the normalfags that he could be 'presidential'. The first time was fucked up because of bad planning and moderation but he was prepared and had a fair (for the most part) moderator this time around so he was able to knock a fairly boring ball out of the park.

I assume the DNC has a final 'trump' card, so to speak. I expect them to play their hand soon because Trump won't have the benefit of using a widely televised debate to clear his name from any controversy they are likely to stir up before the election.

msnbc.com/morning-joe/watch/post-debate-dems-gop-and-rigged-talk-789874243512

What the hell, Morning Joe actually offering non-biased show defending Trump.

maybe the rats are sensing that the ship is sinking and are getting out while they still can.

The bar for Clinton is much lower than Trump. She 'won' by not having some kind of medical episode. She didn't beat Trump, but she won by not falling on her face.

No, that was Hilary's bar for success for the 1st debate. She really needed to distract the people from her illegal activities to win and she failed at that.

On the traditional field of rhetoric he got smashed. If this was two unnamed debaters with just audio, he got worked over. When looking at how calm and reserved he was, one can only think that internal polling showed more results when he was calm.

I expected a vitrolic blood bath of verbal assaults coming at Clinton after the last debate. Instead we got Trump repeating some lines and losing at times to Clinton in emotional appeal. There was less substance coming from Trump and Clinton was well prepared with her remarks and framing to make Trump look as bad as possible with her conjecture.

Now I don't know if him appearing reserved will cause dissonance in women or something but I think that is the strongest case for him winning the debate. Otherwise I say slight edge to Clinton, especially emotionally. I have only watched it once.

Trump was low energy. He did not bring enough attention to Shillary's criminal activities. He really could've hammered her, especially with the new voter fraud videos out.

I think he just lost the election, here tbh. He didn't need to win the debate, he needed a knockout to win the election. Instead, Trump didn't even swing.

Go back to twitter you illiterate nigger. Who the fuck gets triggered by a post longer than 140 characters? Illiterate niggers.

they let her get off dodging hard on Bill. People are saying this moderator was fair but it was more like they picked up some tact to feed Hillary the advantage

The reality of the situation is that Trump does his best when under pressure with his back against the wall. After the O'Keefe leaks the dems are in so much damage control that Trump felt relaxed and assured that the blues are sinking and sinking fast.

Reported CTR

say what you want, but trump was really a huge disappointment and he wasted the biggest occasion of this election.

with all the shit that has been unveiled in the last few weeks (the thousands of wikileaks mails, the new fbi reports, the project veritas bombshells) he could have hammered her so bad that even the most blind normies would have seen her for what she really is, the most corrupt candidate ever run for president. If only he acted with the rage and the resolution he had in the second debate it would have been the biggest victory in the history of presidential debates.
And instead of redpilling normies, what did he do? He whined about "no you're a puppet" like a childman or he used personal attacks like "such a nasty woman" so that he will give the media another to play the card "MUH SEXISM" over and over again. Why the fuck didn't he hit her harder on her corruption, on saudi arabia, on her cuck slaves inciting violence, why the fuck didn't he call her out for using the russia boogeyman argument to avoid addressing the content of wikileaks mails? Literally, yesterday he was the lowest energy trump I've ever seen. Fuck.

Trump won.

The moderator was unbiased too. They had a pretty cool moment with the "Thank you, Sir" as well, maybe they will be friends one day.

Dubs confirm

Needs hair in left with the makeup on the right.

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Thanks for correcting the rectum.

Overall, Don won, but with a nasty afterburn. The beginning was rather dull and a lot of blabber, but once they got past abortion, the entire middle of the debate was an absolute treat, he brought up numerous of her mistakes, made great interjections and kept fueling her internal meltdown. She was in tears, I swear she was about to cry, hahahahaha! Then when he interrupted her again saying she was incompetent, she almost became a red signal light and started shouting into the mic, it was so delightful, hihihihhahaha!!!
Oh yes, she was mad.
However, they must have activated an drug-injector in her after it, because she was able to gain her composture again, and started to throw dirt on him, particularly painful stood out the hypocrisy of critizing the government of globalism, while putting jobs overseas himself, using chinese steel for his buildings. Don missed out a few opportunitys to slam some dumb belittling, particular in regards to the rigged election and possibility of voter fraud, which made her lies seem more credible, than absolute 0. He even brought up the tape that showed her campaign paying rioters to fuck up his rallys, but he only used it to pommel her once, and that was it. Honestly, at that point a SWAT squad should have stormed in and arrested Hillary Clinton right on the stage. But Trump did very well, despite losing his own momentum, to keep her momentum from going out of control, with careful interjections, solid statements and leaving most other jabs not unanswered. I wish she would have gone off crying, if not arrested right away, but not all dreams come true (((yet))), so it was a pretty rough back and forth in the final part.

My summary is:

Don:
+ Great speaking
+ Insisted on talking on his policy, when Hilldog wanted to bring up a meaningless rape accusation again
+ One-liners of hell
+ Fought extremely well to assert himself over Hillary and the Moderator
+ Very good composture, he was stable and robust throughout every part of the debate
+ Did not let the debate slip out of control

- Missed out numerous chances, both defences and offenses, that left him quite wounded
- Dodged around a few questions
- Could not keep the momentum from the middle part of the debate
- Stumbled over his words a bunch of times, that made killer statements puff off
- Didn't utterly destroy her, once and for all

Hilldog:
+ Good comeback after her meltdown
+ Lied extremely well
+ Evaded arrest on stage with immense bribes
+ Able to produce some rather impacting one-liners, crude and obvious, but still hurtful nonetheless
+ Shut down Don once in the entire debate
+ Created a poisonous atmosphere that did halt Don's momentum rather dramatically

- Got super pommelled during the middle part of the debate, wet eyes
- Meltdown in the middle was absolutely HILLarious, definitely one of the best moments in the entire debate
- Horrible speaker, unlistenable spacing and the tones are off, like she was retarded or something
- Lies from hell
- Bad selling of russian paranoia
- Nodded with her head when Trump mentioned her having been exposed as a liar
- Made usage of token kid when Aleppo was brought up
- Rather fond of throwing out accusations, mentioning Don deflecting accusations, then deflecting accusations herself
- Brandishing that god-awful smile at every occasion and responding to every single question with a "first of all…" made her seem even less than a human than we thought possible.

oh fuck me, in that shitty little box it didn't look that big, holy fuck.

What are you crying about? It has good formatting, its not a wall of text

actually this just shows normies are now on board
when normies come on board, is the time when losers like the people browsingg pol get pushed out


your movement will be coopted

WILL ALWAYS LY

Hillary is a bad liar

That's pretty good, user.

YES! CHECK THESE.

Dammit

I think in general everyone overrates how much actual impact debates have. All I see normies talking about is the new Nintendo

You're goddamn right you're gonna avoid brexit arguments you cocksucking bitchass faggots. God I cannot wait until trump blows this genderbent Soros out of the water.

To keep you all high energy, remember that Don always wins.

The "you're the puppet" got cringy and childish, but honestly it was the only thing that I could honestly say that Trump lost points on.

About the rigging. Either you're voting for Hillary and you think its not rigged. You're undecided and you think it might be rigged. Or you're MAGA and you know its rigged. Trump won't lose anything from saying that. Pro-life is also pretty clean cut. His own opinion is Pro-life, the states decide the rest. Its up to the women to choose to live in the states they want to at that point then. Meaning women still have a choice.

Can't really pinpoint anything that really stood out in any way, maybe the whole Russians thing. Though Hillary was just losing points left and right on that note because of course she doesn't know it and Trump called her out on it.

So in the end Trump won big, not that he needed to since he's already won this election way before now. Its only a matter of how much they can rig it now. If they try to rig it too much (which they'd have to) then people will just riot. Which would be fun if it happened.

he said that shit because america are the dumbest people on the planet and still hurr durr over the non existent russian threat

your standard cuckservative wants to go to war with russia over nothing

At this point, they're watching people boo them, hate them, and call them out on things regularly. I imagine their ratings and sheckles are at abysmal levels.

Essentially they could. They've lied, edited, taken things out of context in some of the worse ways, but they see the writing on the wall. Trump will refuse to except a rigged election, they know from their own internal numbers America has side predominately with Trump.

Right now they're probably deeply afraid for their lives. They know the extent of Hillary's Corruption, of Obama's Corruption, and perhaps even of how rigged the election is going to be. They know they're the first that are going to hang, that their entire families are going to hang and there is no way of spin doctoring this.

The heads at CNN are probably trying to figure a way to get back into Trump's good graces. They know there is consequences coming toward them and continously endorsing Hillary until the very last minute is going to backfire.

TLDR: They know they're fucked and they're trying to dig their way out of it or are holding back till they come up with a better plan.

I took issue with some of The Don's little jabs here and there just because they came across really juvenile from my standpoint. I still think it's better than NOT doing it, because our fucking politics are long overdue for some goddamn bantz, ANY fucking bantz. Our political "competitions" over the past 40 goddamn years have been nothing but races between opponents who play it as safe as possible and try to act as holier than thou and above it all as they can while disabling their enemy, all while trying not to offend any of the constituents, ever, for any reason, being super PC.

If anyone looks at history, you'll see that back in the 1700s and 1800s, our politics were fucking rife with blatant, face-punching insults. We seriously, actually had political contenders using the 1800 equivalent of "my opponent is a fucking faggot because of X, vote for me." Now? Everything is a fucking joke. People back then were passionate, serious, and easily pissed off, unafraid to show their fists.

That's why Trump's bantz existing is more important than him playing it safe, but again, my problem with him doing so is that he does it in a cringy way. You have all these people always saying Trump is a child, and some of his jabs at Hillary, while totally warranted, come across as juvenile and not really thought out. Like "i know you are but what am I" tier kind of insults.

He won. I go to university and my room mate is a total leftist who has been harassing me about supporting trump. We get into hour long debates about politics pretty regularly, but this morning he admitted that Trump had called Clinton out on her blatant lies and defeated her.

It's pretty clear that the sole reason they focus on the Russian thing is to deflect from the contents, which are incredibly damning.

Did I personally like him last night? Sure, but I'mnot his audience. Did he win any undecided viters? Almost definitely not. Unless he gets an unprecedented surge, we're never seeing a Republican in the white house again.

not bad, capped

Stop embarrassing yourself

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Is there any point to calling out CTR anymore? I know there are a fuckload of them but trying to infiltrate us is like trying to fight the ocean

So, spamming your threads didn't work so now you're bumping legit ones? what are you trying to bury?

Zero effort into hiding it.

Topkek. If signal goes out, it doesn't go to the NTSC test screen like that. This is someone quickly scrambling to mess with the equipment.

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Even people who live on partially hydrogenated good goyim oil could tell Trump won easily.