Marvel Teams with Archie Comics to Release 'Marvel Comics Digest'

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>The first of the Marvel Comics Digest collections will feature the Amazing Spider-Man and the Avengers and will be released in June. Look for Marvel Comics Digest featuring Iron Man, the X-Men, Black Widow, Wolverine, Thor and the Hulk in subsequent Digests.

This is interesting news if only because Marvel has no presence in newsstands anymore. But the main question remains, will people buy them?

This might be good, but here in the UK you can still get DC and Marvel in shops as themed anthologies (Batfamily, Avengers, Spider-Man) which are done by Titan and Panini (who actually used to be Marvel UK, funnily enough).
They're basically rubbish. You pick one up, and it'll be, say, Batman. They run a bunch of different issues all at once, so crossovers and building stories are a mess, you're behind current releases and they keep changing what the book actually comprises of.

This, being a proper partnership, might actually work better though. We shall see.

Considering I've been wanting this since the 90s the only thing that can fuck it up is being a compilation of aids-ridden modern marvel stories
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THE FUTURE IS HERE!

Why the fuck do they need Archie Comics to do this? God, why can't Archie Comics just fucking die already. I don't hate any company more right now then I do Archie Comics.

Yep, Marvel learned.

Why the fuck do they need Archie Comics to print their own comics? This is absurd. Is this some kind of corporate welfare, because Archie was definitely going out of business directly before this. They couldn't afford to keep their own comics on schedule for example.

Exposing readers to the older runs is a benefit unto itself. It will create an audience with an apatite for it.

Strange. People were expecting Marvel and Archie to die off, but instead they just blew the doors off the industry.

Because Archie has the distribution channels and the facilities to make and sell digests. It would cost Marvel a lot more to make that stuff from scratch.

They're going to find a way to fuck this up. I am absolutely sure of this. I don't think this is 'let's go back to the old ways while trying this instead, since the SJW shit didn't work.'
This is 'let's try harder to shove the SJW shit down others' throats now that comic fans and comic sellers have forsaken us; maybe the normalfags will buy it now'

Archie digests just got pulled out of Walmart. Their distribution is shit compared to what it used to be because current management destroyed it. How fuckng expensive can it be to get equipment to print out digests volumes? How hard can it be for Disney to get its own distribution? Give me a break. This pisses me off. Archie makes the worst possible decisions for years under the current hack CEOs is about to die and then fucking Disney comes into save them. WTF?

Disney surely has digest printing equipment, they used to print Mickey Mouse and Co digests.

Then this is some weird backroom deal with stooges at Marvel trying to give Archie corporate welfare, because honestly Archie Comics was already probably insolvent and trying to cover up that fact.

Surely Riverdale, the hit new CW show with the youngin' will revive the company to a new golden era!

I was getting the Star Wars one for a while, because those were generally miniseries in America anyway, so when a story ended, it had actually fucking ENDED. My brother got Spider Man for a while in the 90's, issue 1 starts, of course, right in the middle of something and makes no sense… except at the back it also reprints the first ever Spider Man story, which was the best thing in it.
If these digests reprint collected, colour, pocket-sized issues from the first apperances in the silver age, I'll lap that shit up. Especially Spidey, Thor and Iron Man (and Avengers and Fantastic four once they pass the issues in the first Essentials books of each). But I doubt they'd be that sensible.

This frankly makes more sense than anything, unless they seriously think Archie is the best way to actually get comics back in non-specialist stores after Marvel burnt all its retail bridges long ago.

Wait, is Tradd Moore doing interiors for Venom? If so, it might be worth a download for the art alone. Moore's "flowy" and wrinkly art style is perfect for symbiotes.


On the upside, maybe it will motivate DC and other companies to try newstands and other avenues.

If you faggots are salty now, just wait until you see how much bank Marvel and Archie are going to make from this deal. Repints are 100% PURE PROFIT on the publishing side. Even if Marvel is splitting it with Archie, they're still going to make some serious coin with the added benefit of finally tapping into that movie going audience they've never gotten a hold of.

This is an exciting time for comics, I tell you what.

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I'd expect it to be like their Sonic/Archie digests: a bunch of material from every age.

I can't wait for DC to spend a lot of money to shove some lazy, poorly edited product onto the newsstands to compete.

Seriously, I'm pissed DC didn't think of this, but then again, they've never been very good at expanding their market.

I'm absolutely baffled why you're so salty about this. I want the industry to burn too, but the way you talk about Archie is like they ran over your dog or something.

First, Archie was never, ever, going to go out of business. They've survived every single comic crash in the history of comics, all while still operating the old model of comics distribution where they buy back all the unsold copies. Their staff is comprised almost entirely of a skeleton crew of free-lancers. Their major output is reprints which cost them nothing. Believing that they were going to go under because of some shit books and a terrible CW show was naive.

Second, the deal means Disney doesn't have to spend a time on any of the shit Archie can provide. By going with Archie, they have an already established distribution network, decades of experience selling books to retail stores, is a trusted brand, and Archie can get those books into stores tomorrow. It would've been retarded for Disney not to team up with the kings of magazine rack comics.

It might suck, but this is the most revolutionary thing to come to comics in a long time. If this is successful, then Marvel has finally found a way to expand the comics market to casuals and break free of direct market.

What could possibly go wrong?

This is the worst kind of comic book fan. The kind that actually takes the Big Two bait and never realizes they're being taken for a ride. It's almost like he can't comprehend a company actually does things for money.

Don't be this guy. Don't believe the Big Two's lies.

I think they survived so long because at the end of the day they're a "magazine" company and not a comics company.

Though that didn't stop them from ruining their own universe with Riverdale and the shitty 2015 Archie reboot.

you are fucking stupid kid

What a waste of dubs. At least try to prove Marvel's sjw phase was a liberal conspiracy to undermine the white race instead of a heartless cash-grab to trick stupid twitter assholes out of their cash.

Because I've seen this switch-gear pandering shit from the Big Two for fucking decades and I really wanted to see how someone could genuinely believe that Marvel wasn't pulling a con.

Just don't buy their stuff that's obvious bait, shit like Brock coming back in true form should be supported anything besides it should be ignored.

user, no one really cares.

Keep in mind as well that, despite Disney being a parent company of Marvel's, they're still different companies. Marvel still has some independence in them to do whatever, as long as they report the numbers. The amount of control a parent company has on they're subsidiaries varies from group to group. What I'm saying is, maybe the higher-up at Disney haven't got the memo (Marvel legit thought they could do by themselves) or they got it but simply do not wish to compromise their facilities to Marvel for whatever reason. Or Disney is staging a scenario in which they buy Archie

To keep things in perspective, Sony Pictures said it will not co-finance the next Bond film if EON don't get Daniel Craig back, who is still on the fence. But Sony will do squat to get him back because he's just their responsability.

He's just NOT their responsibility, sorry.

I don't think DC really needs to do anything to compete, because they still have comics on the stands. Even though they're 3.99 as opposed to the $2.99 direct editions. The smart thing to do would be to see if this actually pans out for Marvel.


Why would they ever want to break free of a market where they can flim-flam comic shops into ordering whatever they feel like pushing at the moment. The newsstands wouldn't stand for the shit they pull.

The only real problem with this is Marvel doesn't have any good comics to include in these anymore.

Because the Direct Market is dying. They stabbed it in the belly back in 1993 and it's been bleeding to death ever since. Sure, they can get some bucks off of dumb shops, but the fanboys aren't going to be around much longer. The big buyers are getting old and dying, to the point that heart disease is a major factor in comic sales. Both DC and Marvel have a pressing need to expand their markets before the entire thing goes under with them in it.

Thus, Marvel making a deal with Archie to reprint their comics. They might not be able to get away with bull-shit They will, but the opportunity to get out of the comic shops is too good to pass up.

Gerry Conway's Carnage, Cage! by Gendy Tarkovsky, Mike Costa's Venom. There's more than that too.

Expense. A venture like this is more costly than one might realize. It's far cheaper(and easier) for them to partner with an established publisher who has experience in the field, especially when that publisher is willing to take most of the risk.

Agreed. We need to monitor this situation since it has the potential to change everything.

Fucking hell I just want Archie to die already.

Pray to god, the TV stuff is the final nail.

Explain. Archie is not nearly as odious as either DC or Marvel, so your reaction needs some clarification.

Not that user, but I remember they hired Squirrel Girl's artist to draw their comics and they made one character gay and made Jughead asexual. The fact he wasn't asexual in the tv show was highly problematic.

I remember buying those around 2004/2005. They did have one distinct advantage in that they led to go and buy proper comic books because the anthologies were always behind and other stuff

Kevin Keller? He was always gay. He was created to be the first gay character in Archie back in 2010.

I agree that the Squirrel Girl shit was fucking awful, but Archie's recent shenanigans aren't enough to make me put them at the top of my shit-list. If anything, I'm more benign toward them, as they're more open to taking risks with their properties (Afterlife with Archie, Archie meets Kiss, Archie vs Predator, Chilling Adventures of Sabrina, etc.) and make an effort to keep their old material readily and easily available.

For the Jughead asexual stuff, that was fucking awful. He hated women before, but saying he's asexual is just bald pandering to hashtags.

They wasted an opportunity to make him burgersexual o something for a joke.

Now that would've been funny

Marvel said they will contain the politic bullshit to the X-Men in order to portray them as oppressed minorities and its clear they are unwilling to drop the hashtag characters anytime soon.

I'm sure it was their plan to achieve the lowest sales figures in the company's history.

The most insane part of Jughead hating women? He's literally the only misogynist in comics today and he's the only one they didn't go after.

jughead is the first MGTOW

None of Marvel's SJW books made money. If they just wanted to cash in on controversy they would do stuff like the Spider-Woman cover all the time. The fact that they kept books like Squirrel Girl and Hellcat afloat despite it constantly being below cancellation numbers proves that they actually believed in what they were doing.

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They absolutely eroded their digest distribution. Look at the numbers. You're naive if you think their safe. I hate the company because it was taken over by some spoiled retarded son who tried make it into an liberal virtue singalling company while simultaneously fucking over everything that made the comics good originally as well as treating people that worked there for decades like disposable garbage in favor of SJW clique creators. Bad decisions deserve bad outcomes, this is Marvel giving them corporate welfare. Although, I just read it will only be 6 issues a year, so who knows if that will be enough to save them after losing Sonic comics.

He isn't necessarily "defending" SJWs or the shit Marvel is currently writing, though he wrongly believes Marvel was just trolling their fanbase all along, never mind this trolling effort costed them loads of money and they were unwilling to take a decisive action that could have benefited themselves earlier.

It's called being a cuck.

This probably shouldn't be understated. It costs a ton of money to build up distribution networks and to get stores to trust you to send product that sells, and it's a fuckload easier and cheaper to hire someone else's supply chain than to develop one yourself for an experiment you may abandon within months if it doesn't work out. And while Disney may have a fuckload of money, they don't waste it willy nilly. (hence why they still have a fuckload of money) Disney let their own comics division wither on the vine long ago aside from niche markets.

Might not be unrelated to Archie's financial troubles, though. Quite possibly they want to keep Archie around as a corporate partner or even prospective buyout specifically to keep those channels open, at least since they're the last way to get comics into shops that aren't barely afloat specialist stores.

I don't think any amount of evidence could convince you otherwise. Perlmutters close association and donations to Trump. The fact DC and Marvel have done this shit numerous times. The company viewpoint that pissing off fans is good for business. The pressing need for DC and Marvel to expand their audiences which would explain such a venture. The slow nature of change in comic book companies caused by numerous meetings over months over the direction of books. Marvel changing things, again, which shows how little they were invested in it. The way Marvel has absolutely no problem pandering to another audience, like they done since forever. I've seen this shit happen over and over again in the history of comics, so for me it's as clear as fucking day.

At this point, I think you need for the conspiracy to exist. Otherwise, you'd have to admit that you got fucking jewed by the jews. That you bought into their lies, started all these fights, purely to line the pockets of the kikes on top.

Some fucking cultural warriors you are. You claim you're fighting the jews when they're leading you by the nose.

But they brought back Eddie Brock user! Marvel fixed itself!

That's just what the jews want you to think.

Have you considered that the jews actually have no idea what they're doing?

I have considered it, and am inclined to believe it, but I find the idea that Marvel bought the whole sjw shit to be absurd.

Both DC and Marvel are exploitative and dishonest by their very nature. To say that they were part of some liberal conspiracy is needlessly complicating a get rich quick scheme. If I were a business, and saw a way to get money from stupid millennial, I'd do the same thing.

DC put out gorilla covers and mod-checks. Marvel banked on the red scare and sixties counter-culture. Exploiting audiences is a tale as old as comics itself.

He donated to Trump out of his own pocket and Trump is going to do jack shit in cleansing your precious comics of SJWs
DC actually learned from its mistakes and Marvel did not
Brevoort already backpedaled on this already
DC actually realizes it's a niche industry so they're doing what they can to preserve their already sufficient fanbase as opposed to Marvel catering to normies who don't give a fuck and lose everyone.
If you let writers go unchecked for years you end up with John Byrne syndrom
Oh they're invested; they're just too stupid and short-sighted to understand that all their ideas are bullshit
Care to provide an example? Because to me they've been appealing to actual comic fans up until the MCU started picking up steam
More like you're pulling conspiracy theories out of you stupid retarded ass while simultaneously making no distinctions towards there actually being a Jewish conspiracy outside of "HIS NAME IS ((((PERLMUTTER)))) GAIZ DA JOOS DUN IT"

Stop making Holla Forums look silly please

Great Jasper it's going to be one of those days.

The point isn't JOOS DUN IT, you ignoramus. The point is that there's no conspiracy outside of comics exploiting people for money. Thus, they are "jewing" people out of their shekels. They con the sjws into believing that they're about diversity so they buy their crap comics, they con the shops into ordering comics by saying sjws will buy the books, and the Holla Forumstards/fanboys will get so mad that they'll bitch about it non-stop, creating buzz, and an eager audience who'll buy more books once they change shit back. Perlmutter, being a jew, means that everyone buying the books and buying into the hype were getting jewed by the rich kike on top. This makes the statement correct.

Spider-Man quits being Spider-Man. Oh wait, he doesn't. Spider-Man gets a new black costume and an attitude. Oh wait, he goes back to normal. Ben Reilly is Spider-Man. Oh wait, no, he isn't. Doctor Octopus is Spider-Man. Oh wait, he isn't. This shit of "change, but not really change" has been going on for ages, and anyone believing that any sentiment from Marvel is genuine is retarded.

Again, this conspiracy theory would make sense if any of their SJW books made money. You still haven't explained why they would keep books that are below cancellation numbers going if this was truly just a cashgrab.

And the whole "pissing off the fans" thing is complete bullshit. Every time they do a race or sex swap or have a character come out of the closet they receive nothing but pats on the back from the press. Again, if they wanted a controversy that would actually be successful they would have T&A artwork all the time.

None of which are going to be put in a compilation.

Trade paperback sales. It's so lucrative in fact that Marvel produced an original Squirrel Girl GN and is releasing a young teen novel.

Also, cancellation numbers are basically around 10,000 at this point, give or take, but publishers will disregard that if there's potential profit in keeping it around, like strong TPB sales or if it's getting consistent numbers. Squirrel Girl #15 sold a 12,556 issues in December, and it's getting numbers like that pretty consistently. Combined with the TPBs, it'll stick around for a while.

Hellcat, however, is doing terribly at 8,536, losing around 500 sales every month. I think Marvel is going to let them make enough content for Hellcat vol. 3(?!), then cancel it. Keep your eyes open for Marvel's May solicits.


The Big Two owns the press. Comics Alliance, Comic Book Resources, Comicbook.com. All of them. They'll suck mainstream comic book cock or be denied exclusive content.

Another sensible reason to prolong poorly selling comics is to keep them going until you can replace them. It's part of why Marvel's recent relaunches seem so dire, they're scrambling to replace and renumber failed books faster than they can line up the talent to work on them.

They aren't prolonged. Publishers order these comics so far in advance that they really can't stop a series once it starts failing. By the time they realize it's a dud, they've already paid for more issues.

DCYOU is a good example of this. A failure from the start, it took DC 12 months to finish publishing all the issues and make way for Rebirth.

It's like a car crash in slow motion.

Man, those gay dudes in the patsy walker comics creep me right the fuck out. I would honestly find them LESS disturbing if they were naked and blowing each other.

They're just so… emasculated looking. Not effeminate, no, just emasculated.

If you'll allow me to play armchair psychiatrist for a moment: the author of the Patsy Walker comics is afraid of men, and of male sexuality. But that doesn't mean she hates them, though. She still wants men around, but just for everything else – someone to protect her and make her feel safe, someone with a big broad shoulder she can cry on. Just, you know, without a dick.

These two gay guy characters are a little childish fantasy for her, a bit of wish fulfillment. She gets to vicariously enjoy the unquestioning friendship of two strong, cuddly men through her writing. There isn't a sexualized lump of flesh on their bodies, and plus they're gay so even if they were capable of having erections (GROSS), it wouldn't be for women and thus scary and predatory.

They aren't men, they're big doofy dogs that can talk and keep you company.

Is that Cheesy Lasagna man?

Yech, I think I liked Blockade Boy's gays better than this eunuch version. BB's obsession with daddy bear culture might have bordered on the monomaniacal to the exclusion of every other character and plot type, but at least his gays liked beer and brawling, and weren't afraid to tell a queen bee to jam it up her cootch.

What about Bleeding Cool? They are probably the only website that dares to post letters from retailers that smash big two, and unlike other they occasionally gives spotlight to foreign comics and small publishers.

Also, from my research, mainstream publishers apparently order their comics in groups of six. The reason for this is that six issues fits into a trade.

This means that if a book is going to be cancelled, it will usually be on #6, #12, #18, #24 etc. so it can fit into trades. However, since comic sales are so slow and publishers always want to get ahead of the market, you're almost guaranteed 12 issues unless it's an absolute disaster, like the New 52 Vibe which ended at #10.

Please keep this in mind when you're complaining about comics. It will take at least a year before you see anything change.


I miss Kittyposter and his depressing storytimes where we romp around Kate Leth's sad subconscious.

I wouldn't look to BC as a pure light in a corrupt industry. It's a fucking rag. True, Rich Johnston does get some good inside info, but his approach is no better than sites like the Outhousers or the Mary Sue. He's in it for the clicks, not to reveal some hidden truth.

Also, if you're looking for stuff on foreign and indie comics, you can do a hell of a lot better than BC. Comic Bastards comes to mind.

I was just curious whether big two had any ties to BC. I didn't mean to imply that they are a bastion of anything good.

Aren't they SJWs?

Was that the guy who did the Hellcat storytimes? Did Hellcat finally finish?

sounds like what the japs do with comics
this could be good

I think he stopped for a while, then there were 2 or 3 issues out and he did 1 or 2, but then stopped again.
Perhaps the pain drove him to suicide.

That's kind of the flaw in their plan, but also the consistent element of comics for the last several decades. These constant stunts are desperate attempts to find the mythical point to tap into readers that aren't middle aged autists. Whether it's two Supermen made of lightning, dark and edgy men with guns and trenchcoats, faux-diversity or hot political takes, it's desperate attempts at being hip with the kids these days and getting in the spotlight, which are quickly abandoned and never spoken of again when they inevitably fail.

If thats so I don't blame him.

Was this worth finishing off? I think I got through the first 2 or 3, and forgot to keep going.

The story was shit, but did it get any better?

Literally nothing they say is a "hot take." If Thor suddenly became a white nationalist and Milo Yiannopoulos was on a variant cover dressed as America Chavez, THAT would be a hot take.

I was referring more to Civil War, and with deep sardonicism given the attempts at relevance are always agonisingly dated and misguided the moment pen is put to paper, let alone when the paper hits the shelves.

Funnily enough, The Boys had the counterpart of Thor be a white nationalist, called Stormfront.

No. We're on issue 15 right now.

I don't expect it to make it past #18.

It's their attempt at a "hot political take". It comes out long after the political topic is acceptable, has the faintest understanding of the issue, purposely sensational, and irrelevant by the time it hits shelves. This is common practice in the comic industry.

For example, DC released The Movement to capitalize on the Occupy Movement. However, when it was released, the Occupy Movement ceased exist. The book itself dealt with none of the politics involved with the Occupy Movement and read like some old fart trying to be hip with the kids. It's hilariously terrible and epitomizes political commentary in mainstream comics.

Did it get storytimed yet ? If I recall the latest one that was shared on Holla Forums was the #14, something about going back from hell or some shit ? Can't even perfectly recall, holy shit was it useless and empty.

No. The last storytime was Hellcat was #13. Unfortunately, Holla Forums suffered a raid during that time and we haven't had one since.

Why would I be salty about Marvel saying they're going to try and go back to fun superhero stories instead of pushing social politics, and then proceeding to make a good business deal with Archie Comics?
Not that I actually expect this to end positively, but there's nothing to be mad about here.

Whoops. Sorry, I just noticed the number on that last issue. It was #12 not #13.

Though, if someone is planning to storytime it again, they should do #12 again because I can't remember anything from it.

Ah, that's right ! Thanks for reassuring me user.
And now I DO remember. That black cat lady basically stole the "infinite bag" from hellcat's "friend", and used it to randomly stuff one of her goons inside it. For basically no reason and without at all checking the consequences of doing such a thing. She also brainwashed the "friend" or something it seemed at the end.
It was a mess of nonsensical garbage.

Also no need for restorytime, since the OP always shares one of those screencap-galleries in the OP.

The raid might have fucked that up since it was one that spammed in all the threads.

Shit, just read that first picture you posted, it's the one I remembered… so yup, indeed, completely forgot the content of #12.

and that old fart was Gail Simone.

Oh boy

WHY. That'll make it worse.

I've heard better things about its companion series Green Team, because it sounds basically like a team of Scrooge McDucks.

You expect actual logic?

Yeah from what I heard it kind of is like that. Wonder if I should read it or not.

A tiny bit but that's too much to hope for with this cunt.

Why are they publishing a superhero comic where the heroine does jack shit due to having a cold and eats pizza and burgers?

10 bucks says this is how they're trying to recoup the losses of 5 years of shitty sjw-laden back issues, by pushing the sjw shit onto an sjw friendly company for digests.

Watch, these digests will be all the hellcat, miss muslim, squirrel girl, and other sjw trash they have been pushing. They want to make profit somehow. Chances are, Archie will pay for these upfront and spend the money printing them.

Marvel gets to profit off Archie and Archie goes under quickly.

A shame since they managed to finally unfuck 15-18 years of bullshit in regards to their sonic comic.

more like Marvel offloads a risk onto a desperate dying company, and if it fails, Archie dies anyway, and Marvel will probably offer to buy out their shambling corpse for their properties and licenses.

Marvel has the money to do this. I doubt it's welfare as much as it's a poison pill that will make Archie a much cheaper company to buy when this kills them. Their properties are worth more than their printing facilities at this point.

If you actually read the OP, you'd know that Spider-man and The Avengers will be first, followed by other movie related properties.

Just let them die.

I miss him to
kate Leths yellow ass teeth should rot out of her drugged out maw

Fuck off, pedo scum.

you guys do know all marvel cares about is the movies right? whats more important, the multi billion dollar movie industry and all the extra merch or the shitty comics that i bet don't even make one million a month?

… They'd probably still prefer it if they could turn some kind of profit.

At this point they just keep printing because they want the license and see if the popularity of the movies can sell some. Oh and I get the hunch all that SJW shit was because they wanted to use that as the new movie material come 2022 when they finished the Infinity Gem shit in the movies, because by then America would have been an even bigger liberal hellhole if Hillary had got elected and re-elected. Don't get me wrong Hollywood and Disney is full of faggotass liberals but they probably won't go full pozz with the movies anymore, more like half and half.

Also I ain't saying it was all some big Shillary conspiracy or something. But since Obama got re-elected liberals got really fucking smug and pushy that a republican would never win the presidensy again. They got overconfident and went all out with the leftist stuff.

Good goy.

Comic Book nerds are the most spineless easy to please but also whiny media consumerists out there. No offense Holla Forums but that's how it is.

Even Holla Forums has more dignity.

This, they're desperate to somehow actually get the millions of people who watch the movies to actually start buying the comics, so the comics they publish are going to be as much like the movies as they can manage, the SJW shit is already on its way out and they probably realise the public does not want it.

I don't know how it works in America but here in my country they have started to sell some comics related to the movies in the magazine stands in the market, for all the normies to see. Mostly it's the Gems of Infinity collection printed all elegant n shit.

The movies are even more SJW than Hellcat.

That is true, and all the actors and directors, producers, executives etc are all huge fucking egocentric liberal assholes.

Woah dude, comparing the mcu to hell cat is like comparing a paper cut to a recently ripped off limb caused by a hungry bear.

Sadly, they are. The Joss Whedon video where they exploited their Marvel celebrity statuses to persuade the public to vote for Hillary was the most obvious example.