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Hey Holla Forums, I'm coming up to the end of high school and within 2 or so months I'll have gotten my ATAR. Given that the education system is a bit of a failure it's left me with more than a few questions, such as:

- Should I bother going to university or just get a trade/join the defense force?
- If I go to uni what are some good (i.e. useful) degrees to consider?
- What (if any) jobs have managed to escape the insanity of the modern world?

Right now I'm leaning towards the Air Force but any suggestions are appreciated.

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Become a electrician or join special forces

Czech'd

if you can get into the air force, then do it

Most trade/hard labor is still fairly based, but that's changing.
Given that you're talking about ATARs, I assume you're thinking about the ADF, which is cucked, but still has hope: archive.fo/di0qV
Lastly, I wouldn't go to university unless you're certain you want to study STEM subjects. Everything else is a lost cause. But, saying all that, there needs to be a new generation of the red-pilled to retake academia and that can only happen if people enrol. I've gotten a PhD and am clawing my way to the top, but there needs to be more.

Eh, for a retail job, the pay's OK.

£1700/$2100

No women ever apply for it since it's night work so on the plus side, we get way more work done. But, on the downside, there's no women to look at and no way to meet any.

Become a Statistical Geneticist (then never find a job because you're not allowed to tell the truth).

This.

This, either join the trades or go to welding school, you can make tons of money welding, I just got paid $2,000 last weekend to weld up am old timers ranch gate, 10 hours of work and I'm set for 2 weeks before I need to work again.

I'm going into advertising for the sole purpose of subverting it from within. In the next 4 to 5 years expect to see world peace-tier subtle redpills in commercials and ad campaigns.

I tried going through a STEM field fam but it made me miserable, i'm just not cut out for it. I plan on picking up some basic machining and engineering skills just to make myself an asset in SHTF/RWDS situations but I don't see myself doing it for a career because I have trouble with numbers

webm related to personal skills I wish to develop

University is a meme unless you're doing a hard science. Everything else you can learn independently without being indoctrinated with leftist bullshit.
If you want a good living, go with a trade. If you want to be a bitch for the state and die for the USA's interests (Israel) then join the Defense Forces. Just don't do it as a rifleman. At least try to join the air force or navy.

Journalism would be a good degree. It teaches you a lot of skills to spread truth and redpills.

However, don't ever expect to be employed. There are no jobs for actual journalists, only sycophants and shills.

I did journalism at university, but now work in advertising.

Working on that in a production-oriented STEM field too, but for a different reason among other things. I somehow have this feeling that I can't explain for rational reasons at all. I constantly think a bank could die and cause a chain reaction of bankrupt banks due to digital FRB money disappearing, leading to a lacking availability of credits for the state to keep it's cash flows going, further leading to a collapse of the social system and law enforcement, creating a post-apocalyptic world within months without even some nuclear holocaust or any of that other shit they use in movies and games, simply from hordes of otherwise starving niggers destroying shit wherever they go and no-one being able to afford to repair anything due to the risk of them coming back. Everywhere I go, I think about what of the things there could be useful to take and use in case of no laws or civility and much less of a concept of private ownership.

I want to have the know-how to synthesize certain substances, grow crops or something to that effect to somehow retreat underground should that happen. I seriously have no idea why that feeling is there, but it always is. I think I've lost it completely.

no, even STEM is SJW-tier these days.
also, little to no job market because oversaturated fields due to Affirmative action and student loan scamming.
yes
if you manage to get something mechanical there, you might make something of yourself.
and with no loans.

This should be your goal:

get a degree/skill WITHOUT taking any loans.

NEET - How else will you have the time to train and prepare for the RaHoWa?

Starting a electrician course myself, any advice from other trade Anons?

You said ATAR so I assume you're a NSWfag. QLD here but the advice still applies.

I would forego any university at this point. Unless you're going to be top 5% of a useful degree like engineering and highly motivated to network, don't bother.

You'd be much better off being paid to learn electrical, plumbing, refrigeration etc.

Defence Force is another good option. Some of the trades get paid pretty reasonably and you'd likely be earning more than what you would as an apprentice.

Anyway, if you start earning this year at 40-60k/yr and put money away while living at home/on barracks you'll be far ahead of people that go to uni.

After 4 years of saving 25k a year you'll have 100k of savings (hopefully investments), and you'll have no loans to pay back or any of that shit.

My main point of advice would be not fucking about and wasting time. Get a job as soon as you finish high school, save money, learn how to invest and you'll be ahead of just about all uni grads.

If you want a career in politics. Get into economics with politics as a minor.

Make sure you get some good clothes and get good at public speaking.

Banker

I want to have a small business. Small businesses are healthy and also I can never get fired for being an ebil shitlord. Id want to hire Holla Forumsacks if possible, and if I get successful enough I would throw some funds at new nationalist political candidates.

I work in a small business warehouse and my boss is fucking loaded. Fucker has a lakehouse, a boat, and 4 cars for his family, one of which is a brand new BMW. This is at a location with less than 10 employees.

If I had that much cash I would really be the face of nationalism in my area. I would sponsor a little league team, do can drives, maybe a scholarship if I could, all that nice stuff that creates a high trust community.

If you go to university, be sure to check out the politics of the profs in the department you're majoring in, to be sure they're not leftists (if they are it's not worth going).

If you go to university, get involved in student government, even if you think it's a waste of time, and when you discover other rightists encourage them to run too. At most universities so few people run for student government that representatives are virtually self-appointed. Over four years you can be sure the administration or other student leaders will try to pass off multicult nonsense on many occasions, and can cast doubt on their plans through tough questions if not actually stop them. Career-wise, student government is a great way to meet other politically-minded, motivated people in the real world, and you can network to help each other's careers after graduation.

As far as careers to choose, despite the jokes, there's still a lot of room for lawyers. Just a few years after graudation you can establish their own firms and be your own boss if you have the ability. Kyle Bristow is openly nationalist in the US and has a very successful practice, so no one can touch him.

I know people love to shill for their STEM flavor of the month in these threads, but I think it is really important we occupy a wide range of fields. We need police, military, professors, programmers, salesman, contractors, painters, you name it. We need to be a force in society.

Autism bux if you can get it. Worl under the table otherwise. Having a "career" paying taxes to zog is the dumbest thing you can do.

Yeah just be a basement NEET and dont have money to raise a family or purchase arms and ammunition.

A few thousand people with stable lives and solid careers but with our ideas are a million times more harmful to ZOG than a million NEET recluses who just detach and do nothing until they die.

Independent internet activist.

computer programming & software development/engineering.

* no license required
* no degree required
* work with white men or at least avoid niggers and women
* work from home an option
* pays good (depending on your skills/motivation)
* low-physical risk, no age limit for a career
* easy access to Holla Forums during work

um……

I've thought about pursuing electronics engineering, software development, and cybersecurity. Those are going to be important skills for the future, for both Holla Forums related and Holla Forums unrelated purposes.

Basicaly also do try to learn about mesh networking im doing the same and i think we need a plan B in case we need to flee the regular internet or rebuild it

Would anyone on Holla Forums recommend pursuing a career in politics? I was thinking about changing the pozzed political system, especially changing it through the media. What major(s) should I be focusing on to become some sort of political analyst so I can destroy kikes and cucks within the media?

Literally anything dealing with starting your own business is Holla Forums tier.

Everything else is below that.

Small business is the most red-pill way of living.

If you decided to become a red-pilled political analyst I don't think you would find work anywhere. The lugenpresse would never touch you or allow you on for commentary. Im not trying to discourage you from trying user but I don't think yo'll be pulling in much doing something like that. I will always endorse anyone trying to spread red pills though. I think your best bet for doing something like that would be to become an alternative media source. Essentially make your own media network so that way you are in control. I'm not sure what majors would be best for you but I think you should definitely take speech and debate courses. Just about any polack could become a commentator if they had a platform and charisma.

False. Working for zog and being a bourgeois cuck gets us nowhere. Look at every successful revolutionary in history. None of them had jobs. That's because they knew that working for the system is counterproductive and dumb.

What's mesh networking?

I personally want to be a psychologist

Shut up Hunter.

If you join special forces, try to make it in the Air Force, it's where the money's at if you do good on the ASVAB.

You get free healthcare for life, and a shit ton of other military benefits.

And it's something that pretty much puts you at the top of any list of applicants if you're applying for a job when you get out.

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Oh yeah, you can also CLEP out of the college classes that they teach at the education center for free. (Take a test to pretty much instantly pass the class)

They usually have education centers on every base.

So you could get trained in a trade and go to college. Why settle for just one?

Is electrician any good? How about electricians in the MidWest (that's where I want to move)?

Thanks for the advice, user. Are there any suggestions as to what groups I should try and join while in college? I know there is a lot of marxist shit in virtually every college campus, so choosing the right people to connect with is like walking through a minefield blindfolded. I know when it comes to a political career, it's about making connections and networking with people, and I assume college would be a great place to find like minded people (I assume there are at least SOME red-pilled people in colleges, I can't be the only one).

How hard it is to get in the Special Force Air Force?

I have a feeling that finding other red-pilled people at a college will be more difficult than you might imagine. National Socialism and most red-pilled thinking will be severely frowned upon by campus administration of almost any college. Because of this I bet that there are others out there who can't show their true colors on campus. There will surely be groups of lolbergs and cuckservatives around though so I would start looking there. There might be a polack or two hiding out with them.

Your other option would be to start hanging out with people who have been somewhat redpilled (lolbergs especially) and have honest conversation with them about the red-pill. If you are convincing enough these people will eventually join you in your way of thinking. This method would also probably help you build charisma.

Electrician is good because everywhere you go, you need one.

Not everyone needs a decent programmer. Hire a code monkey from pajeetland and get it done for an 1/8th of the price.

Not everyone needs a decent carpenter. Hire an illegal from Beanerville and get it done for a 1/4th of the price.

But wherever you go, competent whites will be working trades like electricians because they're the only ones smart enough to do it–and get paid a good chunk.

the only thing anyone really needs is knowledge.

The number of electrified pajeets and slants I've met in the electrical trades makes me think otherwise. Taking affirmative action will correct any racial bias in any industry. If this shit keeps up all regulated industry will collapse writhing in an affirmative cesspit.

Farming. Then pay Electricians, Welders, and special forces while you drink lemonade one day, and fix all the other "tradesmens" work with pride after they fuck it up

Doing the same thing for the movie industry. Good to see more pollacks in the media where we are outnumbered most.

would you suggest air force or navy for career opportunities in civilian life after? im planning on finishing my bachelor's and going in O-1, but I'm not sure which branch. most of the guys in my family served navy, but the meme i've heard is smart people/career oriented people go AF

The Air Force SF pipeline is actually the hardest in my opinion. If you're deadset on becoming SF, I'd say the easiest way would be to pass through the special weatherman pipeline, shit is relaxed as fuck if you make it though.

t. gook CCT

If you can physically do the job, id recommend bricklayer or roof tiler, call up a tafe or recruiting agency and ask them what trades are most in need right now and think hard about the choices.
Im a 2nd yr bricky apprentice on $15 n hour, its shithouse but in 10 years all the old blokes like my boss n 90% of the other brickys ive seen will be retired. 2 weeks ago it was me and one other at tafe for the day.. plan ahead if youre going to spend 4 years in an apprenticeship.

Depends on what resources your family is leaving you. Which city? Don't join the army unless you like fighting for globalist liberals. All Australian political parties are shit so politics is fairly pointless to get into.

You could look into working in the country on a station for redpill trade tier experience. If you go to Uni do agriculture or law. Have you got any talents?

Oversaturated job market

You pay for the piece of paper, not the education you stupid fuck


Do geopolitics and international relations and aim to be a Dug in type of figure

Leftism isn't as big a deal as people make out. Go far enough left into Stalinism and you can still make redpilled arguments against liberalism and progressivism. Look at Dugin, he started as a National Bolshevik

Or just you know go run in a rural council that doesn't have enough people running for an election

Stalinism isn't far left its old left. Pretty much every american leftist is even more extreme but a cultural marxism. Nazbol isn't going anywhere here. In eastern europe or asia maybe it could work.

Trump

Do that mean he used to hate the jews?

I was thinking about doing something similar but going into art. I would make *good* art and move western culture in the right direction. Of course I would have to be a master but whatever.

Just Wagecuck because nobody hire you but shartmart.

GLR did just this

Friendly reminder that military = working directly for feds. They own that candy ass of yours if you join up.

You'll do what you're told or be imprisoned/taken out back and shot

I'm going to do a bachelor in architecture at QUT or Griffith next year. I was going to join the Defence force but I'm not so willing to die in some foreign country for the interest of Israel, elites or international bankers, fuck that shit, my people need me. The pay is only so high to lure you in and the fact that they don't expect you to live that long.

see if you can get an oil job
if you can do agriculture lotta farmers are retiring

I ended up with an ATAR of 90.5 and still going for my electrical engineering degree.
It's a huge hassle but I want to be able to shitpost on the job rather than doing manual labor.
I'm openly racist but everyone I study with is doing the "Both Trump and Hillary are bad". Although what can you expect from people whose only exposure to the race was shitcunt aussie media?

At least we can openly hate the Socialist Alternative cunts since most STEM kids fucking hate getting identity politics pushed down our throat.

Also I managed to get in the year when I couldn't chose whatever electives I wanted but now there's a thing called broadening electives which can be anything unrelated to your engineering discipline and comp sci. This means you can chose anything from gender studies to entry to quantum physics so you'll only get exposed to the cancer of modern education if you personally choose to.

Basically if your ATAR is high enough and you don't want to piss away your health doing manual labor go do some sort of engineering. Comp Sci is a meme degree, avoid at all cost unless you're an autistic savant who's written industry level compilers at the age of 15 or some shit. Only go into science if you want to live in a university environment to the end of your days.

Finally if you think you can't outdrink those medschool faggots you might as well drop out and do arts.

You've clearly never seen how terribly bad pajeets are at programming.

Political analyst here.

It depends exactly what sort of career in politics you want. Elected official? Staffer? Policy wonk (if so, depends on what specialized topic: domestic issues, international affairs, security studies, etc)? Field activist? Financing? Media/PR? It varies. Barring the policy wont route though, your exact major isn't as much of a factor. What really matters are what you do outside of class. Where you intern, what you work on, etc.

For what you want (affecting a change through the media), you should consider somewhere that lets you write a lot, involves you heavily in research, and teaches you the tricks to grabbing attention. I'd look into seeing if you can intern at the Government Accountability Institute in Florida. It's basically the right-leaning think tank that Breitbart uses to outsource all of their research on major political figures.

Personally, I went down the international relations route with an emphasis on security. Went to one of the major feeder schools for that field (they're mostly in DC: American University, John Hopkins, George Washington University, and Georgetown University). Now, because of networking efforts while at school, I'm at a think tank in Eastern Europe trying to learn a Slavic language while also doing research on how modern information technology can be used to upend political systems/institutions and benefit international development.

I'm going into medicine, planning on specializing in epidemiology.
Wish me luck.

Either get a trade or become a police officer, military isn't in the slightest worth it right now. If you're going to go to a university degree then go for a STEM degree, avoid mechanical engineering and architecture by any means necessary, your optimal goal is to get into mechatronics as it is both a trade and a university degree.

Also by avoiding mechanical engineering, what I mean is that it is the only engineering degree that will end up being shit because it is greatly oversaturated due to it being the only type of engineering most people know.

as a master student in microbiology, i wish you the best of luck. i myself am going the bacterial genetic engineering path, so i might even read up on some of your future articles.
as for stems, they are pretty apolitical: fellow STEM students i know just fucking laugh their ass off when one or two philosophy/political students find their way on the Beta side of the campus and place those obnoxious posters of theirs. people here just fucking hate the alpha studies with a fervor, since they try to prioritize their garbage above scientific achievement and endeavor.

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beta, as in the beta studies; it's what you would call the STEM-studies: biology, math, chemistry, etc.
Alpha studies are the non-STEM studies: communication, politics, business, philosophy, the works.
don't you have the same terminology as a burger? always thought they would use the same vocabulary on that shit.

and to further clarify, on my university, we have two major buildings which dominate the campus, one for Beta (including most low and high clearance labs, college rooms, cafeteria and offices) and one for Alpha, which caused the campus to be pretty clearly divided between the two sides. a student of one side almost never needs to go to the other one's.

Never heard of it up to this point

Straya here, first I hear of it as well. Sure we have different buildings that are predominantly used by different majors but we sometimes have lectures in med school or the arts building. Granted most of my studies are done in the 3 engineering buildings but we don't really classify our campus into plebland and STEMvill.

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Thanks for the advice, user. It's very interesting to hear from an actual political analyst. You presented a lot of different routes I can take with several different focuses, and to be honest I really don't know. I might sound autistic when I say this, but I really thought a political analyst would just be a political writer that writes about whatever topics are hot (at least that's how I assumed it is based on how analysts are presented on TV). I'd have to investigate and research to make a decision on what kind of analyst I would be, but hopefully it could be something where I'm really in the front lines of the media, spreading the red pill as much as possible.

Air Force, they have more technical jobs available because of all the aircraft.

Plus they pretty much baby you in basic training now. It's not how it used to be- like in Full Metal Jacket.

Taking your own slice of the wealth and using it to further nationalistic goals is better than letting the slice go to some normalfag or worse, a kike that will continue pushing their agenda.

Airforce is the way to go. Go be a gearhead POG or physician etc. depending on what you like, not to mention they'll pay for your college after you're done as well.

Alternatively you can try to join an academy at a college of your choice where you'll essentially be doing bootcamp and some other basic training while you're in college, paid for free with a stipend, and then all you do is serve for the next x years based on your contract.

i'm in design and doing the same

media is the key to the will of the masses

You're kidding me. You want to be a pundit? I mean, if it's your cup of tea, sure. But it's a brutal game. It's less substance, more performance, and the ability to hijack conversations. Barney Frank is a fucking master at this; if you've ever seen him on a talking show, you can see how he hijacks the conversation (whatever it may be) to talk about his latest book. He has page numbers memorized. You alternate between wanting him to shut up to admiring the sheer skill.

In any case, here's the basic route for an analyst:

1. Get into a good school. Top 20 or so, preferably Ivy or as good, with plenty of opportunity for connections. Relevant majors are political science, foreign affairs, history, journalism, international relations, etc. For you, consider philosophy (teaches you logic and logical thinking, "because of x there is y", which really helpful in law and/or arguing/debating).

2. Hone investigation and analysis skills. Much of the job includes researching and analyzing data. So developing data interpretation and investigative skills is really beneficial. When you're in my position (ie, pouring over white papers/corporate research reports/books, underlining anything of substance, taking notes, etc) you'll find that being half-way decent at this is a godsend. Take classes that encourage this (seminar classes where the professor can review your work individually is good for feedback). While on the subject: take public speaking. It's a critical skill, more so for your aims.

3. Extracurricular. Join the relevant clubs or groups on campus. You want like-minded peers (or what passes for them) that you can network with and chances to improve yourself. Debate society, Newspaper, College Republicans/Democrats/Libertarians/whatever, etc. Feel free to consider starting your own organization/group if nothing interests you; it's harder work, but makes for good resume material, particular if you can make it last. Freebie idea that I never got to implement: a Republican/conservative version of Roosevelt Institute Campus Network. Think about it.

4. Internship(s), since they introduce students to how politics affect different industry sectors and the political process. Get one, ideally a solid one. Key places are in government agencies, a Congressman's staff, or think tanks. For you, also consider media companies, along with the Government Accountability Institute, which I mentioned before.

5. Find a relevant post-graduation job. If you did well in the internship(s), you may already have offers.


Final bit of free advice: read.

There is the daily news, for which I suggest RealClearPolitics/World, Politico's Playbook newsletter (particularly on weekends, when they give a list of informative longreads), and Foreign Policy's Situation Report newsletter (somehow relatively untainted by Rothkopf. He's ruined Foreign Policy, killing substance and focusing on sensationalism).

But ideally, you want to devour books on a wide variety of subjects. Ideally, you want the good academic stuff, not the pablum written by existing pundits. Analysts are at their best when they develop a holistic approach to viewing things and just know a lot in general.

STEM is worth it if he has a plan for what he'd like to be and takes advantage of the resources available as well as makes sure to obtain connections (aka just chitchatting with your professors until they like you or asking if they have any research opportunities or need help etc)

At this point in time, you need to expect yourself to get a Master's degree for most fields, and you'll most likely be dealing with leftist professors throughout so you'll be hiding your power level a lot.

Having a degree in Math, Chemistry, Physics and engineering (although this one is being taken over more and more by H1B visas) will almost always land you a solid career and have options.

I still think Pharmacy is a good route for awhile, you can easily nab a job as a pharm tech and make $12-15 an hour while you're in school or during the summers as well. And pharmacists have more options than just sitting at stores handing out pills, there's hospital and research work too and the pay is YUGE.

Respect. I know a person that is learning classical art and eventually heading to an academy in Italy for a few years. Bringing the right wing back into the arts is a worthy goal as well.

you contradicted yourself when you said that other fields besides STEM are uncucked and a lost cause but then you advocated that there needs to be more people (getting PhDs). which is it?

No, computer network technician is the way to go as you won't need to do help desk job work once you enter civilian life again.

This is the one thing that's stopped me from going to uni , so far at least - is it worth the time and money, and the risk that it'll have no substantial effect on your career prospects, if your main concern is changing the system and the culture churning out all these useful idiots?

I'm one year away from becoming an Electrical Engineer and I'm feeling good, though it's been really exhausting.

I'd advise you to take a no-nonsense approach and study something that's useful. Learning and trade certainly has value and is applicable anywhere, but there is only so much potential for growth, if you formally study a career you can specialize and accrue knowledge with time, which adds a lot of value to yourself, and to whoever wants your skills if you decide to be employed.

You should stick to just one of those areas. Electronic engineerring is pretty hard and intricate, don't take it lightly.

Why should he avoid mechanical engineering?

I think it's because most of those types of jobs are extremely liable to be gone in a decade or two due to automation, but that's just my guess.

Please engineer a deadly bacteria that targets nogs.

You can study art and become an independent propagandist. Make vidya, music or other stuff to promote family values, logical thinking and defeat the golems. Become a meme magician is what I'm saying.

I'm not well informed on the nuances of that field of work, either, but I can speculate that their nuanced knowledge can't be easily replaced.

In the worst case scenario, they'd have to study some electronics if they feel the need to integrate into the automation sector.

I think the difficulty with mech engineering is that with FEA (computer simulations in CAD programs that simulate the design in action) an engineer can do a lot more work quickly, leading to fewer engineers being employed.

Personally I think that if you are asking for career advice on a Tibetan mask crafting BBS you should try a trade first before dropping lods a mone on college classes.

If you go to university do it with a plan, do something useful. Its great reading about anomosity theory and criminology in social science and all but it is not practical and won't get you a job.

I would recommend the following:
IS / CS
medschool
engineering
math (econometrics)
economics

Degrees closely related can also be very useful. There are a few useless degrees such as gender studies though. But you can make most degrees useful, sociology has a large section focussed on crimonology for example that can be useful if joining at a police function. Problem is with social sciences, a lot of them cater to government jobs that pay pretty poorly. And some students are complete screwups since the curriculum standards are too loose.


This is why I did a Bsc information systems with a minor in economics. It has programming in it, it has business subjects (which usually relate to IT) in it. It has part of psychology in it. It only is lacking in math. I did a minor in economics because I found it something interesting and potentially valueable in my career if I would work at a financial institution or bank.

Electrician here. Can confirm. Don't be a faggot. Get a trade.

Right. You better pick wisely if you choose to go into medicine. Medicine breaks down into two broad fields: procedural and everything else. Procedural is basically surgery or anything invasive, such as interventional cardiology. Everything else is coughs, colds and sore holes. Procedural fields pay really well. Everything else is in the process of getting fucked by insurance reimbursement rate decreases. That medical school degree and residency will take you a minimum of 7 years, with 9 years being more likely. You will come out of the first 4 years with the debt of a mortgage, in the neighborhood of $160k - $250k, and payments will start immediately after medical school, while you're getting resident pay (shitty). Average salary for "everything else" doctors will be around $120k - $140k, which sounds like a lot, until you calculate the opportunity cost to get there (education time, education debt). Factor in that you must absolutely love interacting with some of the worst attitudes in society, and you have a recipe for hanging yourself in a closet. If you go to medical school, find yourself a surgical field or if you've got the grades, dermatology (sweet gig).

Lame. Information sciences and computer sciences are technician level jobs. Don't waste your BS on that stuff. Be a data scientist, instead.

Yes.
Yes, because economics and data science.
Yes, because economics and data science.
At least keep up with the kikes while they play their kike game.

Research the job you'll be doing. Find out what degrees get hired into those jobs. Measure that with how new technology is pushing the hiring requirements down, and don't get into a field where they'll fire you and hire someone with an associates degree. Choose wisely.

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Epidemiology? Hope you like being a CDC researcher. Seriously. That's a narrow field, and we hardly need them. Occupational Medicine needs some epi, but they hardly use it.


Dude. Microbiology can be cool, but you all are still bug counters. Be a cell smasher. Biochemistry is the apex of life science.


What this man said.

I've dabbled with the funny idea of becoming a pseudo town-crier by informing people of lesser-known happenings that are outside of their MSM bubble. I'd pass out fliers, cards, and usb drives full of resources, documents, websites, pictures, and recordings that our political figures/government/corporations don't want in public- while also remaining in the grey area of legality. I'd probably be arrested or even worse if I decide to go through with it. Wouldn't get paid either, but money- or rather the lack thereof- has never been an issue for me.

make fliers, pamphlets and have orphans/children you hire sell them off for 5 cents a peice

c'mon user, doing it yourself is wasting precious time you could be making more

Wow, thanks for taking the time to offer comprehensive advice.

If we're speaking honestly, I really am not informed enough to give you a clear answer. This is just me thinking years into the future, since I haven't even situated myself into college yet. I was just thinking that there are too many libtards and cuckservatives in the media and now that things are gradually changing in terms of political correctness and what can/can't be said, maybe this is the window of opportunity for more red-pilled folks to start changing the political atmosphere at every level. I just don't particularly see myself working in a position of public officer like a governor, it feels like I'd pull my hair out dealing with so much corruption and bullshit all in one place. If we're talking very idealistically, I'd love to be the Goebbels to someone else's Hitler, except I'd also be the kind of guy to also be shitposting on Twitter, if that makes any sense.

Well, I tried to apply to Georgetown but they had too many requirements like having a nearly perfect score on the national tests (ACT/SAT) and part of the application demands that I pledge to always support diversity in our society, so that was a huge turn off; however, I applied to all the other schools in the DC area (GW, American, Catholic, etc.) and it looks like I'll be going to GW. Say what you will about DC but the city is based around politics so making connections for a career in politics shouldn't be too hard in that city.

I suppose this might be the biggest challenge for me. I've usually been the kind of person to just "wing it" when it comes to studying. I usually skim or take as many shortcuts as possible and still do well on assignments and assessments, so I've developed a bad habit of not being able to sit still and really absorb 100% of the info I'm reading. I'll have to fix on that.

Definitely doing this. I will definitely look at all the clubs and find the most right-wing group that the (((administration))) allows. I'll probably have to join the College Republicans. I'm assuming they're cucked, but it doesn't hurt to at least be around people who aren't total Marxists.

Sounds like a great idea. I know there are plenty of college campuses that allow shit like legitimate Marxist groups, so it wouldn't hurt to push the boundaries towards the right; however, I may sound like I'm just knocking myself down but I don't know if I'd have the leadership to run such a club; I haven't been in many situations where I've gotten the chance to lead so I don't know how well I'd be at managing such a group.

I don't think that'll be too hard considering I'll be studying in DC.

Well, I don't know how relevant it is towards what I want to do, but I always see people Holla Forums talking about great books to read so I'm currently reading: The Prince, Meditations, Tomorrow We Live, Art of War, For My Legionaries, and Churchill, Hitler and The Unnecessary War.

Writer here, trying to take back literature. I don't expect to win any awards, being white, but I'm gonna write the best damn books of this entire fucking generation, you mark my words.

Go for it. Too much literature nowadays is pozzed, with most of the shelves being littered with nothing but young adult shit.

Nearly all pajeets working CS jobs now. I've been on big teams that were 100% poo-eaters besides me. If I was starting over now, I would not go into CS.

Being comprehensive is good in this field

In that case, you basically want to be Stephen Bannon (Trump campaign CEO, former Breitbart Chairman) and/or Roger Stone (Republican consultant, strategist, political hitman). I suggest reading up on them, to get a feeling for what their experiences were like. Here are profiles on the two of them.
>Bannon: bloomberg.com/politics/graphics/2015-steve-bannon/
>Stone: newyorker.com/magazine/2008/06/02/the-dirty-trickster

Look, I'm aware of what Georgetown is like. Where do you think I attended? However, how much liberalism is running around campus and how much the university is openly violating Ex Corde Ecclesiae (the Vatican constitution regarding Catholic universities), there are still groups of strong conservatives and traditionalists on campus, like any university.
GW is also good (though expensive), so take advantage of what you have there.

Trust me, the "winging it" bit stops at college. You'll still be skimming through some of the required reading (only way to keep up), but you need to absorb the basic gist and some of the particulars. Taking notes/underlining the important bits helps, even if it takes longer. Also, while on this topic: learn to write papers in multiple drafts. I did not get how crucial this is until after I graduated; it really helps you iron out all the kinks and makes it noticeably better. Yes, it's an insufferable time vampire of an exercise, but it's worth it. You would be amazed how many essays by former foreign ministers are badly written and have to go through 5 to 8 drafts before they can be presentable.

Remember: the local GOP club does not hold the monopoly on right-wing thinking. There are always other groups. The local chapter of the Knights of Columbus fraternity, the constitutional law studying group, etc. Look carefully in your first week. Special note though: do not commit to more than three clubs, maximum. Two if you feel pressured. You won't handle the strain, I assure you.
Also, consider pledging the local chapter of Delta Phi Epsilon, the professional foreign service fraternity. People who join hold stronger interest in political affairs and tend to lean right. Plus, you gain access to the alumni network (gold) and that would technically make us brothers. Unsure of what their particular chapter pledging process is like though, and there is apparently bad blood between them and the GU chapter over a stolen statue of the Greek god Hermes from a couple of years back…

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Up to you. Leadership is hard, but has to be learned somehow. Though honestly, I also avoid it; I'd rather be a behind-the-scenes type of guy.

Banish that thought from your head right now. It IS that hard. These things are stupidly competitive, because everyone (locally and nationally) wants one. My father taught the guy who runs one of the institutes at the Wilson Center, and I was still told to apply.
Get whatever help you can; go to the campus career center so they can help prepare your resume and practice interviewing. Join the university group/newsletter that is specifically aimed at helping students get internships with alumni in Congress. Network at events. Whatever. This is a knife fight in an alley, and half the guys are bigger/better than you, so you better bring your A-game.

Again, I generally encourage reading everything, from the particulars of warfare to the details of the lives of penguins (I like penguins). This is a career where knowledge is power, and writing speeches/policy papers/books is the means of executing power.
That said, the classics (the ones you just listed) serve as a good base, but you'll want to expand on that. For example, if you're looking into strategy, it isn't just reading Sun Tzu. You'll want the correct translation (R.L. Wing) that thinks about broader applications rather than just military. You'll want to read Freedman's Strategy: A History for a good grasp on the evolution of the concept.
For politics in general, I suggest The Dictator's Handbook for a masterclass in selectorate theory, the autobiographical books by Lee Kuan Yew (the man was Machiavelli's favored son, and his success with Singapore reflects that), and pretty much anything by Edward Luttwak (the main is a genius, read his profile for more).
Luttwak profile: theguardian.com/world/2015/dec/09/edward-luttwak-machiavelli-of-maryland

Oh, and given your interests, get The Trivium: The Liberal Arts of Logic, Grammar, and Rhetoric. This is the key to learning how to argue, and a must-read for all future lawyers and basically every Holla Forumslack (if they weren't so busy with Evola).

I keep a running wishlist of book in the hundreds, and strive to maintain an "anti-library" (concept by recently deceased Italian novelist Umberto Eco, where your personal library should be composed more of books that you haven't read than read. It represents the unending quest for knowledge, while at the same time you feel guilty for not reading more, thus pushing you to do so). As such, I'm loaded with recommendations, so ask me if you want anything more specific. Media oriented, perhaps?

I really need to read more of Luttwak's stuff. I have his book The Grand Strategy of the Byzantine Empire and I've probably read it 50 times by now. This line from that article was on point:


“No,” said Luttwak, “strategy is about looking for turning points. Politics is too predictable. Look at Hillary. She is an empty carapace with ambition rattling inside. You can predict everything she does. Strategy is about being unpredictable.”

The man lives to scar people with reality. It's professional trolling for a job.

He just wrote a fun piece on Syria this month, which pissed off the libs yet is still damn good:
>thecipherbrief.com/article/middle-east/let-war-work-1091

ALL TRADES, ALL WORKING-CLASS, AND MANUAL LABOR JOBS ARE SHIT-TIER NIGGER/SPIC CAREERS!

WE ARE GOING TO LOSE THE FUCKING ELECTION BECAUSE WHITE MEN DON'T OWN, CONTROL, OR ARE UNWILLING TO BUILD THE FOLLOWING TYPES OF COMPANIES THAT PROJECT POWER IN THE 21ST CENTURY:

BANKS
MAINSTREAM NEWS
MASS MEDIA
SOCIAL MEDIA
COMMUNICATIONS & TECH COMPANIES
VENTURE CAPITAL
SOFTWARE DEVELOPMENT & IT SERVICES
FINANCE
LAW
POLITICAL & LOBBYIST FIRMS

REPEAT: IF YOU GET A STUPID FUCKING SHIT-TIER JOB IN THE TRADES YOU HAVE FUCKED YOURSELF, YOUR FAMILY, AND THE WHITE RACE.

Your thinking is perfectly understandable. If your scenario were to play out, how many of the new-age dinks and yuppies do you see wandering around would actually survive? How many of them would be able to gather food without a supermarket or start a fire without modern technology? How many would even be able to defend themselves in a fight?

Our society coddles too goddamn much and it places value on things which don't even exist. If it all goes to shit you need to be able to land on your own two feet.

Godspeed, user.

I did because my answer related to getting into academia depends on the type of person op is. Does he want a based job now? Or does he want to be part of a culture shift in academia so that it is based for future generations? The latter is an extremely difficult and subtle position to play given the current mine-field that is academia and one I would only recommend if you're passionate about not only studying your area of research but also changing the very culture that surrounds it.

I agree with regarding STEM degrees, but that depends on which country you're from and how much debt you're going to wind up with. A degree is useless if you can't find a job afterwards.

You're only going to change the culture at a university if you work at the university itself, which means making the journey from undergraduate to postgraduate and then as a lecturer and professor. If you're only going to stay on as an undergraduate, then your sphere of influence will be whatever career you find yourself in next.

Local community center.
Raise young boys to be men.

Burgers give a shit about Nihon-koku for the sake of it, must be the spirit of Ted Roosevelt. This gets my eyes teary tbh.

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good luck

It will be nice if everywhere is snowy.

Yes, I think that's definitely what I'd like to do. Is there some specific name for the kind of field that those two specialize in? Is there a name for that kind of career so can head in that direction?

Yes, that's what gives me a glimmer of hope for finding some likeminded folks when I'm in college. I think I'm too far down the rabbit hole to act blue pilled, especially when it comes to politics, so hopefully I can find a lot of real conservatives and not neoconservatives or cuckservatives on campus. I come from a school that was based around Jesuit education, which is why I had my eyes set on Georgetown, so it's really sad to see such perversion of those kinds of teachings in order to appease the diversity and tolerance overlords of modern academia.

I suppose I should thank the American education system for rewarding students who can regurgitate information, since they don't care if students really learned the material or not and base everything on your test scores. Anything that has truly stuck with me was because I learned it from my own accord and not from memorizing vocabulary words from a textbook.

I'm typically used to the standard, "write an outline, do a rough draft, make corrections, write the final draft", since that's what has been expected of me to do since as long as I can remember, but I'll take your advice to heart and do much more drafts like you suggested. It'll take time getting used to that technique, but I don't want my essays to come off as shit because of mistakes I missed.

I'll definitely commit myself to those groups, especially since they are a goldmine when it comes to networking, as you mentioned. And at the risk of sounding like a kiss-ass, it is reassuring to know that there is at least one Holla Forumsack within these groups that I could make contact with.

Agreed. I love the idea of being an active figure in politics and not have to pull my hair out worrying about my public image, but rather I'd work alongside someone who might enjoy being the center of attention a lot more while I operate on the sidelines.

I figured that I'd be wrong on the how hard it is to actually acquire an internship. I just assumed that I'd have a geographical advantage being in DC. I'll make sure to look into the available resources to help my chances at getting an internship since I know that's one of the essential parts of college life.

Got it. Thanks for the recommendations. I feel ashamed to admit it, but I really haven't spent much time reading anything. It's only been within the last year or so that I've started actually giving a damn about literature of any kind.

Thank you so much. This is a godsend, especially since whenever I get into debates with people (typically in regards to Trump's policies), I always have the ideas thought out in my head, but when I'm in the heat of a debate (usually with a screeching libshit), it's very hard to communicate those ideas in such a way that I've orally assassinated them similar to the style of Nigel Farage. I usually end up scatterbrained, jumping from point to point and begin to stumble over my thoughts a lot just because I'm thinking of ways to outsmart the average liberal.

This is an interesting concept. I'll make sure to fill up my library with more books that I haven't read. Although, I would definitely need some guidance as to what books I should be reading in order to help me strengthen my abilities within this field I'm pursuing. I'm open to anything, really. You've been nothing but helpful, so I'm more than willing to take your advice on the matter.

Airforce, if you're capable. Serve your country, then use it as a means to boost your career. University is only for careers that necessitate university degrees, like medicine.

I'm 31 and still don't know what I want to do with my life.

If you're ok with answering, what uni do you go to m8? I'm doing electrical engineering as well.

Become a lone wolf soldiers to smuggle the White Africans to Zambia.

Bannon and Stone's line of work falls under the nebulous cloud that one might call "political operative." It's a strange mix of press aide/expert, campaign staffer, strategist, and political consultant. There really isn't a set path to becoming one; some just go independent after partaking in numerous campaigns for their party, some start as lobbyists but then decide to go more hands-on, others just basically train/work under another operative and take up the line of work naturally. Most though, I've noticed, tend to evolve from a campaign staffer position. I'd recommend going down that route or networking around and seeing if you can be put in contact with someone who does this.
Hell, why not write to Stone or Bannon themselves? Fan mail can be a good ice breaker, particular since (this being politics) DC people love being sucked up to. Consider the case of well-known staffer Kurt Bardella, who won a mentor out of George Stephanopoulos by doing that very same thing. Read one of Stone's Nixon books and write to him or such.
More on Bardella:
>nytimes.com/2013/07/07/magazine/how-to-win-in-washington.html?_r=0
(Note: Mark Leibovich, the author of that piece from the New York Times, is the DC equivalent of the high school kid who knows everyone. His book This Town: Two Parties and a Funeral-Plus, Plenty of Valet Parking!-in America's Gilded Capital is excellent if you want to get a sort of quasi-inside view of the political culture in DC.)

I hear you. Though I was taught by the arch-conservatives: Opus Dei. If anything (and my experience at Georgetown reflects this), I consider the Jesuits to be far to liberal. Then again, they allowed the school bureaucracy to push them out of the administration of things and into the Jesuit residence, as if it were a retirement home and they're sometimes pulled out to showcase how "Catholic" the university is. Disgusting.
In any case, yes, public school education is systemically designed to not encourage critical thinking and instead try to standardize everything. Nor do they really put in time in teaching students how to write essays, do proper research, etc. Classical education is where it's at, particularly if it's demanding:
>thefederalist.com/2015/09/08/in-the-common-core-era-families-flock-to-its-opposite/

Reading is, in my view, the key to success in life. I never put a spending limit on it. It builds the mind, expands your vocabulary, gives you new insight, and helps your writing (you pick up certain things here and there; I got my explanatory style of writing from reading Daniel Yergin's books on the history of energy and oil). Set a goal of a minimum amount of books to read per year, and try to beat it. I try to do 20+, though I may bump that up to 50 next year.

As for stuff you should read… if I started listing, it would go on for a dozen posts or more, covering everything from International Trade to Bitcoin to Science fiction books (note: do read science fiction; it is a vastly underappreciated genre that has a huge influence on Silicon Valley, the military, and others. Ender's Game and Starship Troopers are required reading in my view, since the former teaches the importance of self-reliance while the latter is a good argument for limited franchise democracy). Anyways, a few political related works:
>Pinker's The Sense of Style
>Garfinkle and Brook's Political Writing: A Guide to the Essentials (get Kindle or a pdf version; physical is too pricey)
>Anthony Ludovici's various books (A Defense of Conservatism, The False Assumptions of "Democracy, etc.)
>Hirsch's Cultural Literacy and Deresiewicz's Excellent Sheep
>Michel's Political Parties and Voegeli's The Pity Party
>Huff's How to Lie with Statistics (as a follow up, read the short article How to Accuse the Other Guy of Lying with Statistics by Charles Murray
>while we're talking about Murray, read his The Curmudgeon's Guide to Getting Ahead: Dos and Don'ts of Right Behavior, Tough Thinking, Clear Writing, and Living a Good Life


One last thing. I don't usually do this, but below is my throw away email address. Send me a message and we can connect. Proper email, Linkedin, Steam, whatever. Hell, might as well pass you on to some friends/brothers in DC that can help you more than I can out here in Europe.
>[email protected]/* */

Not everyone can stay in mommy's basement while they go to college to get an absolutely worthless degree.

^^^
Proof that millennials are absolutely worthless.

Any EE fags here? Just wondering if they're is a demand for FPGA/DSP/Embedded hardware designers? Or do they exclusively only hire chinks and dotheads for those job positions?

You don't need uni or a special degree to do this yourself user. That's the magic of entrepreneurship.

Sage for having this exact thread every fucking week.

And then there's the token NEET shill.

Top kek, you're forgetting the millions of pajeets that are taking it over, both via outsourcing and importing.


Yeah, if you want to get fired for going to "bad" websites (assuming it isn't firewalled/blocked already) and slack off instead of doing your job.


In other news, the sky is made of pilgrim cheese and plastics are filled with testosterone.

Is it fine if i read the books from a PDF? Also, do you have a technique for reading faster?

I see what you mean, there isn't really a formal title for their line of work, but I did some research and their positions do originate from them working under different campaigns within their party. That's a pretty achievable goal and it really does help narrowing down what I want to do in terms of a career. My ideas were still very "up-in-the-air" about what I would do. At first, I thought I'd be one of those pundits who always get invited to Fox; however, knowing me, I'd have a Freudian slip and accidentally name the Jew or something the executives wouldn't like people on TV to know about and they'd have me kicked out, replaced, and blacklisted almost immediately.

You know, I never considered that. I always had the assumption that any letters or emails that these political figures receive immediately get shredded or are just considered spam and they don't even bat an eye to it. I am sure these politicians love a bit of ass-kissing from fans, but I'll make sure my fan mail has some actual substance to it and isn't just the typical "wow, you're so great. I wish I was like you! Please give me a job.

Bullshit.

Actually, some of that still holds true. A former roommate who interned for Rep. Peter King from New York told me how they would skim through a bunch of the constituent letters, respond to the decent ones, and toss out the ones that have no substance, aren't making a point, etc. He said that if you wanted to reach Congressmen, town halls and similar small events are the best bet. It's easier to reach the non-politicians, though it varies. A friend of mine wrote an email to Francis Fukuyama while and asked for book suggestions, and got a short list as a response. Another says that the letters/emails/tips that are written to Bill O'Reilly on a daily basis are read by staffers, who choose around ten or so that he would like/are insightful/contain something worth mentioning on his show, and pass then it on to him personally.
It's still worth a shot though; in DC, everyone is always hunting for new useful connections or potential future sources. And Stone strikes me as the kind of guy who would constantly be the lookout for some sort of new talent. Best do your homework on the guy though. Maybe listen/read to the interview he had with Glenn Thrush a few months back?
>politico.com/story/2016/04/transcript-off-message-roger-stone-222375

It's fascinating how one thoroughly doesn't enjoy a book he's forced to read, and misses the lessons derived. Ender's Game is like that, and you learn more from it as you get older. When you read it as a kid, you see it just as story with a kid beating bugs. When you read it as an adult, you notice the themes and lessons being imparted: how they impress upon Ender the idea that he is alone no matter what so that he can learn to be self-reliant; the visible mental (and physical) stress of leadership; the importance of assigning appropriate talent the right job for maximum success on the battlefield; the need to come up with innovative new tactics (whether on the fly or long-term) in order to defeat enemies with the odds in their favor; etc. This is why the book is recommended/required reading in the US Army.

You know what I picked up when I re-read the book recently? How it predicted the evolution of online discussion forums, arguments, op-eds, etc. by world leaders/key thinkers, and their effect on international political discourse. Of course, in the real world, what we have is 140 character tweets and mindnumbing politically correct/pro-globalization articles on Project Syndicate, instead of the "grand debates" on the "recognized roundtable forums" that Card describes in the book. Still, seeing something like this written in 1985, when the Internet wasn't even a concept yet, is for an indicator of how Science Fiction can inspire. The people at Apple and DARPA grew up watching Star Trek. Now we have tablet computers and laser weapons.

This is why I push science fiction; it forces you to think ahead, and some of the lessons can be applied to politics. For example, consider Halting State by Charles Stross. It introduces a fascinating idea; using a smartphone-based, espionage-themed Augmented Reality MMO to outsource low-level intelligence operations to civilians who will do it free just for the kicks. Agencies could save money by letting some bored civie take pictures of an individual whom he thinks is another player, or some talented computer guy hack into a foreign government's server which he still thinks is part of the game. And the best thing? They're totally deniable and secure assets. There is no gain in a rival agency or group going after them, since they don't know anything. I mildly suspect some of the agencies are looking into doing this right now. Hell, these past few years we've witnessed the weaponization of social media for political purposes. ISIS recruiting methods. The ongoing Wikileaks email saga. It goes on. We're entering a new era in politics, and people are too engrossed in mindless pablum, not recognizing the sheer scale of what is going on right now.

Forgive me, I ramble, but this subject is dear to me. And it is vastly underappreciated by the modern education system and society at large, which is a sin in and of itself.

Received and responded. Looking forward to working with you.


Nothing to stop you from reading books on a PDF or Kindle (I do so too). It saves money and makes highlighting/note-taking sooooo much easier. Still, I prefer print; it feels better, the content is fresher on your mind, and you don't have to endure the annoyance of staring at a screen for hours on end. As for a technique for reading faster: not really, not if you want comprehension.
All I can say is that as you grow older, you sorta learn how to differentiate what is useful from the BS. It's a matter of experience.

Beekeepers are based

Bees are based

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Why electrician? I was thinking of going back to college for Computer Science. I enjoy programming but previously didn't want to do it because of how hard it is. 4-6 years of hard work then you get paid well, but often long hours of tough problems.

fuck my reply got left out meant for

Trade school
Say it with me
Trade fucking school

I'm learning gunsmithing and welding and it's fucking dope af fam.
My class is 30 FUCKING WHITE MALES taught by white males. We openly joke about shit that would get you thrown out of some cuck university. Most of us are making good money already and we haven't even graduated yet, plus with a Pell grant you practically get paid to attend class. You'd have to be a special kind of retarded to learn a trade and end up unemployed after. Unlike the Cuck U alumni who are both jobless and saddled with debt.

Please keep bees, even just as a hobby. They're not as bad off as people think, but they're still more important to our survival than niggers are.

Become a crematory operator.

What's a good job for wee lads(16) like me?

Read.

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you're retarded

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this, plus programming is boring nerd shit. Fuck that.

I work security at a call center and instead of outsourcing IT help to India, they decided to hire a company that employs Indians. They're feeding the stereotype.

Yeah, affirmative action is destorying any and all industries.

Also Idk much about /pol tier careers but I know what the opposite is. TO ANY AND ALL PEOPLE READING THIS THREAD

NEVER EVER EVER GO INTO RETAIL RETAIL IS AMONG THE SHITTIEST FIELDS YOU CAN GET INTO.

Trade is good, because even during bad times economically, people are going to need your help.

And things are going to go bad, really bad.

That's my plan.

If you are serious then start researching now. Learn the essentials of business. Starting a business requires an idea, a plan and capital.

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