Would you live in the soviet union? (before the 1980s)

would you live in the soviet union? (before the 1980s)

what would have been the best socialist country to live in ?

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After ww2 and before khruschev revisionism in 1956

I would like to live in the USSR to be more clear

what's wrong with khruschev aside calling stalin shit ?

Basque country in Spain. Too bad you have to learn their weird language.

I'd live in the USSR provided I was in the Western part of the country, the RFE was and still is a hole while Siberia is Siberia.
Either the USSR or Yugoslavia.

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He got rid of the quota based production system for factories and replaced with profit based production, essentially allowing factory managers to become essentially bourgeoisie.

No
Dunno, though it would have been interesting to live in Catalonia during the civil war, or Russia during the revolution before the bolsheviks fucked everything up.

No, not enough computers.


As of right now? Ropefromceilingstan

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Yes, there was problems but it had potential. I wouldn't mind living under Khruschev as his reforms was a symptom of a deeper crisis of the law of value still causing contradictions as it is impossible to create an island of communism in a sea of capitalism.


Outside the major cities of the USSR, it would the GDR as it was where best skilled jobs existed in the Comecon outside the major urban centres in the USSR and where living standards for skilled workers were the highest. Outside the Comecon it would Yugoslavia

USSR from about 1945-1965 when annual growth was higher than the USA and there were actually rising standards of living. Anything before then was hell on earth and the years afterwards were just increasing corruption and slow decline.

Everything. There is reason why he got deposed - there was a very real revolution brewing by this time (coups begun in 1957, open uprisings by 1959).

tl;dr version:
Basically, Khruschev decentralized Soviet economy (>>788542). I.e. it was no longer actually planned economy. It was simply run by bureaucrats.

Politicized Science. Actual Lysenko clusterfuck happened only during Khruschev's reign and was part of … wait for it … destalinization campaign. While 1948 is claimed as the time when Soviets "outlawed genetics", it was more of a series of budget cuts to some areas, while increased support of other - also genetic - research initiatives ("repressions" were limited to half a dozen people and even then had more to do politics than science). It was 1955 ("letter of 300") when Lysenko finally got his carte blanche due to personal Khruschev's intervention; when Lysenko was forced to retire in 1961, Khruschev intervened again and put Lysenko back; only in 1965, when Khruschev was no longer in chage, Lysenko was deposed for good). This also led to crippling of Soviet electronics (that was finished by Brezhnev).

Nationalised ~6% of Soviet economy (non-state industrial co-ops, not just minor businesses; if you had enough workers and persuaded local representative of central bank to give you a loan, you could've organized big factory). No refunds, no nothing, despite co-ops clearly being workers' property.

Crippled kolkhozs financially, by forcing them to take huge loans to privatize pieces (no-one could've afforded to buy them whole) of state agencies (MTS) that provided tractors and other expensive agrotech for anyone. That also led to major drop of efficiency of agrotech use.


As for Stalin - that's no minor thing. Khruschev completely destroyed credibility of USSR and split Second World in Second and Third Worlds. This bullshit about hundred gorillion executed/gulaged? It begun not with Goebbels (nobody actually believed him), but with Khruschev's antistalinist campaign. Stalinism itself was outlawed in USSR until the 90s (last case of people being sent to prison for it was in 1989, IIRC). This also led to Soviet Marxism being turned into a dogma, actual Marxist discourse being effectively forbidden on the grounds of "this might lead to Stalinism".

There is a reason why post-Stalinist USSR is often considered non-Socialist. Though, I must say it's not completely true: it took 30 years for bureacrats to be completely reborn as capitalists. Basis doesn't change superstructure in a heartbeat, after all.

Honestly i would like to live almost anywhere in the world before the 1980's. Late capitalism sucks

Nikita "Frankfurt Can't Hurt" Khrushchev
Nikita "Theory is Awfully Dreary" Khrushchev
Nikita "Marxist Lines off My Mind" Khrushchev
Nikita "Scientists are Worthless Shits" Khrushchev

No, I fucking wouldn't.It was fucking terrible.Nothing functioned .It a was true horror.THE USSR SUCKED.

If I had to choose… probably Yugoslavia.

Right, the Short Course was totally not dogmatic an d an complete retroactive reading of party history

Good luck sucking IMF's dick
And people wonder why Yugoslavia didn't have such a bad image in the west unlike the USSR

DDR.
dat fucking anthem doh

How exactly is market socialism that PRC has build revisionist?

If you intend to say that Stalin extinguished Marxist discourse in USSR, you'd better say it directly (and be prepared to defend this statement).

Oblique accusations are hardly worth anything.

I kinda want to move to Cuba when I'm done with my school here in America. I really want to participate in keeping the revolution alive and trying to turn it into market socialism instead of Chinese "socialism." I think they could probably use programmers. And living in Havana looks comfy as fuck tbh. I'm already learning Spanish.

If not Cuba, then maybe some other Pink Tide state.

That's if I have the guts to move to a 3rd world country and not just try to escape to New Zealand.

Kampuchea

Pol Pot = moshiach