Do you believe in God? Who made you? I mean who actually made you

Logan Morales
Logan Morales

Do you believe in God?
Who made you? I mean who actually made you.
Not your parents, because parents don't pick their kids. Not nature because nature is blind and unconscious, the trees and sun and elements didn't pick you.
Who picked you?

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nature.com/news/a-vacuum-can-yield-flashes-of-light-1.12430
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casimir_effect
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Euler's_identity
webm.land/media/LLdC.webm
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trial_and_error#Application
lmgtfy.com/?s=b&iie=1&q=What is the difference between christian and orthodox christian
goodreads.com/book/show/14743.The_God_Delusion
wikiislam.net/wiki/Qur'an,_Hadith_and_Scholars:Muhammad's_White_Complexion

Isaac Brown
Isaac Brown

there is a plan regarding where each raindrop falls
Do you think you are so important that someone is looking after you every moment of your life?

Jordan Myers
Jordan Myers

Things don't self-create and come out of nothing for no reason, also things don't just happen by "chance", chance is an illusion, nothing is arbitrary

Henry Harris
Henry Harris

You would be hard pressed to prove that anything happens FOR a reason.

Explain who and how creates this funny pattern.

Luis Long
Luis Long

subatomic particles literally pop in and out of existance from nothing all the time

Jason Johnson
Jason Johnson

nature is blind and unconscious
That's where you fucked up. Nature, by evidence of our existence, has conciousness as one of it's constituent parts.

Everything in the universe came from within the universe. Why would you think conciousness is not the same? Because you have a fat ego and are too dumb to realize you are the universe experiencing itself.

Sebastian Cooper
Sebastian Cooper

No they don't. They appear randomly on our measurement devices because our devices are not yet fine enough to pick them up in motion. We can say where a particle WAS but we can't say with any certainty where it will be, or even presently is.

Connor Johnson
Connor Johnson

yes, they do - we have an aparatus capable of showing that

David Hughes
David Hughes

Why do you feel unloved?

Julian Rogers
Julian Rogers

Kys and be reborn as not a dipshit
quora.com/When-subatomic-particles-seem-to-disappear-and-then-reappear-where-do-they-go-What-are-the-widely-accepted-hypotheses-on-this-behavior

Adrian Sanchez
Adrian Sanchez

Why are you sidestepping the question?

Jeremiah King
Jeremiah King

nature.com/news/a-vacuum-can-yield-flashes-of-light-1.12430
quora as a scientific source
not addressing the question

Jacob Diaz
Jacob Diaz

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casimir_effect

Justin White
Justin White

They are not appearing from nothing. The article itself admits that we can never know where a particle is past a single point. So no matter how much we try to create a sterile testing environment, we still haven't been able to. I refuse to believe this bunk science about magic particles that break the laws of physics and instead hold firm to the real possibility that these experiments were imporperly conducted or at the very least improperly reported on by the writer of the article.

Ian Miller
Ian Miller

You are an illusion, the me is completely helpless.

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Henry White
Henry White

uncertainty principle is about the source of a particle, not the exact position at given moment
thats why i refuse to believe it
they do, in fact, come from nothing. Your refusal to believe is irrelevant - u r just wrong

Connor Cook
Connor Cook

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Lincoln Nguyen
Lincoln Nguyen

THANKS
praise the LORD

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Sebastian Williams
Sebastian Williams

no imaginary friends, I like science.

Nathaniel Flores
Nathaniel Flores

so to recap: no1 gave any evidence for god still

Henry Reed
Henry Reed

get created
get put in a giant created world
can interact with the world and other people
can make sense of what is going on

heh, this all happened by chance or something…definitely the product of blind stupid forces or nothing at all

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Jeremiah Jackson
Jeremiah Jackson

assuming any of this was created
its chance, not laws of nature
argument from ignorance

Blake Foster
Blake Foster

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Asher Miller
Asher Miller

laws of nature
laws of nature
assuming nature has laws, heh? who was the law giver who designed them.
check mate fedora

Aiden Evans
Aiden Evans

who made God
who made the unmade, eternal one

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Justin Collins
Justin Collins

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Gavin Bennett
Gavin Bennett

ponder this

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Owen James
Owen James

i'm not familiar with this equation but I heard it uses fuckery to get the right result, a property (imaginary numbers) that can be applied to a lot of numbers to get that result.
is this true?

Parker Cooper
Parker Cooper

Natural selection picked me so that I could sit here, play video games and drink soda and you can ask me where I came from. I came from biological function, not a mystic hoodoo man that no one can see.

Jaxson Long
Jaxson Long

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Euler's_identity

Cameron Long
Cameron Long

descriptive law
prescriptive law
<no difference

Luis Rogers
Luis Rogers

ponder this

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Justin Moore
Justin Moore

unmade an eternal
u mean the universe?

Logan Roberts
Logan Roberts

this doesnt prove god

Jaxon Anderson
Jaxon Anderson

people think natural selection is a game of chance
Natural selection is the exact opposite of chance, and is proof that no "higher power" is needed.

Caleb Hughes
Caleb Hughes

If you were merely a "believer" it would.
Hell, anything could!

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Brody Diaz
Brody Diaz

trial and error isn't a game of chance
It can reach a local maximum of adaptation variable, but not the universal maximum unless after the run time approaching infinity.

Jace Smith
Jace Smith

evolution is trial and error
Retard alert.

Zachary Butler
Zachary Butler

it proves god if u already believe in god
u r right in this

Caleb Green
Caleb Green

if yu fer exampel at dis equasion den you u see da BEUTY of MATH AND GOD and lisen naw you c it all PERFEC so gawd iz realz athiestz.

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Jaxson Rodriguez
Jaxson Rodriguez

Luckily, I already believe.
You will go to hell and burn forever.

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Bentley Nguyen
Bentley Nguyen

why do u believe?

Isaac Campbell
Isaac Campbell

Becuz iz so obvious.
I ams ejucated. Pubic skool. Cherch. Dey dun tot mi.

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Luke Moore
Luke Moore

No belief here, ask me anything.

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Ian Price
Ian Price

Why are you such a faggot?
Are you really attracted to frogs?
I just like to soak in their water.

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Noah Jackson
Noah Jackson

webm.land/media/LLdC.webm

I like to watch them spin.

Blake Perez
Blake Perez

Some ITT would like to make a mockery of God.
Pleeze Stahp.
God will not tolerate insubordinance.
in b4 God is a pussy.

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Jayden Myers
Jayden Myers

Agreed. I'm responding to him right now.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trial_and_error#Application

Landon Bell
Landon Bell

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Evan Reyes
Evan Reyes

Dis gun b gud!

Liam White
Liam White

I am an Orthodox Christian and I think that ultimately the belief in God is driven by faith alone. However, I'm not a deist. I believe that the relationship between God and the material world is like the relationship between a computer and the program it is running. Some secularists theorize that our entire world is merely a simulation on a machine of some sort. But how, using the rules and logic of that simulation, could you prove that you are in a simulation? It can't be done. That being said, it is impossible to prove God's existence using common logic. My faith in God comes from the historicity of The Bible and how strongly I agree with the teachings of Jesus Christ and the Orthodox Church. Even if I were to lose all faith in the existence of God, I would continue to practice Christianity because I so strongly agree with its doctrine and values.

Anthony Ward
Anthony Ward

god is in your pants
the only question is, front or back?

Kevin Ross
Kevin Ross

literal female mentality

Ryan Ward
Ryan Ward

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Julian Gonzalez
Julian Gonzalez

1) You want to believe in something that has no evidence except a book that was written before science was in use. And was changed to hype and exploit/oppress the naive nature of trusting humans, that just want to have a good life. And all of the contrary evidence is freely available to research, and you choose not to amend your belief.
2) What is the difference between orthodox christian imaginary friend, and regular christian imaginary friend.

Parker Scott
Parker Scott

he made the only reasonable argument a religious person can make.
he believes because he wants to believe.
you believe in science because you choose to believe in science.
you believe that religion is a scam because you choose to believe it's a scam.
What is the difference between orthodox christian imaginary friend, and regular christian imaginary friend.
lmgtfy.com/?s=b&iie=1&q=What is the difference between christian and orthodox christian

Luke Edwards
Luke Edwards

has no evidence except a book
Wrong, ask romans or greeks.

before science was in use.
You mean Descartes ways? science is older than that.

Kayden Russell
Kayden Russell

reminder that middle schoolers are currently on spring break

Daniel Ward
Daniel Ward

it sure feels like it

Oliver Watson
Oliver Watson

I don't believe in science because belief is not a prerequisite to understanding reality.
I don't believe in religion because it's a fairytale for stubborn children.

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Samuel King
Samuel King

If you can reword your response to actually be read, I will give an answer.

Jordan Cox
Jordan Cox

1) There is no contrary evidence. It is so immensely difficult to prove a negative (with the exception of mathematics) there is nothing that could ever be said to disprove the idea of God. And if you're going to dismiss the Bible, you also need to dismiss historians from around the same time like Pliny The Lesser and Josephus.
2) The number of differences between Orthodoxy and any other given sect are so great that entire books can (and have been) written on the subject.

Leo Lee
Leo Lee

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Cameron Allen
Cameron Allen

Maybe you should focus on graduating high school. And work on your reading comprehension while you're at it.

Adam Watson
Adam Watson

you sure showed them that they were right

Gabriel Bell
Gabriel Bell

belief is not a prerequisite to understanding reality
Wrong. Science is nothing more than the application of human logic, so if you are to believe solely on the sciences you must have faith in human logic which is immaterial and cannot be proven.

Hunter Sullivan
Hunter Sullivan

ok kiddo lemme blow yer fuking mind
you don't know the basics of science well enough to "know" they are true. you simply chose to believe it's true because that's what you're told.
even if you did you can't prove you're perspective of reality to be true.

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Chase Wood
Chase Wood

It is imaginary, because it is imaginary.

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Evan Cooper
Evan Cooper

it's imaginary because I say it is
How very insightful

David Ward
David Ward

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Hudson Perry
Hudson Perry

I can prove reality is real trough mathematics. Your religious cucks have yet to prove God, by using maths.

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Nicholas Hughes
Nicholas Hughes

But you can't prove mathematics because it's immaterial.

Isaac King
Isaac King

Enjoy your mental illness, I know you do.

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Kevin Gomez
Kevin Gomez

LMAOOOOOO you sure showed those religicucks!!! xDD

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Adam Long
Adam Long

Mathematics is a visual representation of pure logic, which *does* exist.

Julian Lopez
Julian Lopez

I was talking about romans from Rome, not romas from the saddest part of India and i was talking about Descartes the guy, not the meme.

Checked.

Atheism isnt a belief? fedoras arent religious atheists? If atheism isnt a religion then atheism is the cheapest rip off of buddhism.

Actually Godel did it with a mac, then liberals noticed that they just removed both legs with a single bullet and censored everything, God isnt ilogical like fedoras believe.

Actually all non blacks school mass shooters are atheists and the consensus is that they all have mental issues.

Andrew Peterson
Andrew Peterson

If you're referring too maths being immaterial, in the sens ethat numbers can only exist on the paper, that is somewhat true. But, numbers are mental representations of the real world. Numbers have effect in the real world, they shape it in every way imaginable. You have enginnering, art, physics, etc. God on th other hand, has no real effect over the world.

Camden Ward
Camden Ward

I don't have to show mental illness anything, they have to show me their god first.

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Matthew Martinez
Matthew Martinez

Show me where logic is.

Lincoln Diaz
Lincoln Diaz

Let's try and explain something beyond monkey comprehension with scribbles on paper
Can't do it. GOD DOESN'T EXIST!! TO THE FEDORA STORE!

Oliver Thomas
Oliver Thomas

but how can you trust logic to be true?
how can you know if anything you sense is real?

Zachary Lee
Zachary Lee

Show me where logic is.
1+1=2, therefore 1+1 can never = 4

Elijah Jones
Elijah Jones

So because you wrote something down that makes it true? You're using logic to prove logic. That's like using theology to prove theology.
This is what I'm saying.

Landon Garcia
Landon Garcia

Actually you can make that, math has a lot of problems.

Easton Martin
Easton Martin

Easy there Descartes

Dominic Stewart
Dominic Stewart

See? atheism is a belief.

Sebastian Diaz
Sebastian Diaz

Atheism is the lack of a belief in a diety

Jackson Rodriguez
Jackson Rodriguez

Atheism is the belief in the lack of a diety.

Samuel Kelly
Samuel Kelly

These are legitimately the worst threads on Holla Forums, every time.

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Nathan Anderson
Nathan Anderson

We don't know and we will ever know, because it's imposible to find that answer. You can chose the theory that most suits you, there's many, especially these days.

Jose Sullivan
Jose Sullivan

If your point is correct then you are a buddhist.

Mein sides!

Blame autism, not me.

Thomas Young
Thomas Young

I studied philosophy with Pierre Grimes.
Atheism isn't a word if god and religion is imaginary, but I do agree that mental illness is still very prevalent in humans. I'm up on the school shootings as well and that is more of a question for anthropology and sociology, because the drastic changes in society has provoked their behavior.

Logan Walker
Logan Walker

What's wrong? Can't handle the philosophical bants?

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Carson Wilson
Carson Wilson

So then, you don't believe there is no god?

Dominic Diaz
Dominic Diaz

Take two one pound coins, you now have two pounds. Two one pound coins can never be three. Pretty simple.

Connor Myers
Connor Myers

god
if there is some sort of all powerful being, then hiding from us would be trivial, he is unprovable
life after death
if there is some sort of ephemeral selfstuff that moves on when your body dies, it is not of something we can detect or know of, but it could be of something else that we just havnt found
if the soul does exist I posit that it either resides inside or somehow send signals to the brain, which would explain why brain damage can cause personality change, its not reading the soul correctly anymore

Julian Thompson
Julian Thompson

No, no you can't

Colton Allen
Colton Allen

I really can't

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Ryder Gutierrez
Ryder Gutierrez

I studied philosophy with Pierre Grimes.
Autority phalacy or a joke?

Atheism isn't a word if god and religion is imaginary
Then we are talking about buddhism again.

because the drastic changes in society has provoked their behavior.
Thats tricky, i dont want to sound like a /pol/ tard, but media is changing and pushing changes, we passed the 'natural thing' long ago and now we are facing a tech based on that knowledge 'social warfare', 'antropology weapons'.

We have the word God and god, then gods for a reason, your question is loaded.

Try google.

Hudson Ross
Hudson Ross

"Try Google" is like when SJWs say "Educate yourself". It means you have no idea what you're talking about.

Joseph Myers
Joseph Myers

But can you prove a purely logical statement like that all bachelors are unmarried with empirical evidence?

Caleb Diaz
Caleb Diaz

your question is loaded
No it isn't. You are dodging it.!

William Diaz
William Diaz

test

Nathan Hill
Nathan Hill

you fail to understand the argument.
how can you know the coins weigh 2 pounds? how can you know 2 is 2? how can you know a pound is a pound?

Adam Gray
Adam Gray

Can you prove with observable evidence that is and always will be right forever and ever?

Michael Ortiz
Michael Ortiz

whoops

Dominic Powell
Dominic Powell

hey man he so hung up on tha wave particle duality he don evan kno bout dat matter energy duality gnomesayan

Easton Morris
Easton Morris

because we defined the weight of a pound you doublenigger
i didnt read any post in this argument except for this one that im replying to so this has no bearing on the argument itself but your example is retarded and you should feel bad, unless there is some point in the argument that i didnt see that elaborates on what youre trying to say and actually renders me the idiot here

Blake Flores
Blake Flores

Pierre Grimes and you questioned me about Greek and roman science, Pierre Grimes pseudo dionysius, plato, aristotle, and of course Alan Watts. I'm not talking about buddhism or Daoism. An idea is a concept, a concept is imaginary unless there is a substantial proof beyond a story.
Thats tricky, i dont want to sound like a /pol/ tard, but media is changing and pushing changes, we passed the 'natural thing' long ago and now we are facing a tech based on that knowledge 'social warfare', 'antropology weapons'.

Right, they feel the need to go to war for their manhood.

Jonathan Baker
Jonathan Baker

I think what the other poster is trying to say is that if you are going to rely strictly on empirical evidence (like so many reddit fedoras say they do) you have to empirically prove that all pounds are the same and that 1 is always 1 and that 2 is always 2 etc. because doing otherwise is relying on logic which is immaterial and unprovable.

Thomas Mitchell
Thomas Mitchell

Every user ITT should read this book
goodreads.com/book/show/14743.The_God_Delusion

Isaiah King
Isaiah King

that's a rather nonsensical point t b h
that one cylinder is weighed and used to standardize scales
these scales are mass produced and distributed
these scales all measure weight similarly within some acceptable confidence interval
furthermore thats another nonsensical point about logic being immaterial. there is literally no way to compare two objects without using logic
hey let's weigh this one
hey let's use the same scale in the same place to measure the other one
<w-well you cant just assume the scale wasn't giving different readings

Jonathan Nguyen
Jonathan Nguyen

I meant pounds as in GBP, Great British Pounds

Jaxson Rodriguez
Jaxson Rodriguez

How can you knw a dog is a dog? A cat is a cat?

Benjamin Ward
Benjamin Ward

That's the whole point. You can't rely strictly on empirical evidence for anything. But at the same time, you cannot empirically prove logic.

Adrian Ward
Adrian Ward

oicic

Parker Sanders
Parker Sanders

We've defined them as such.

Parker Brooks
Parker Brooks

Then a pound is a pound, because we defined it a such? What is the problem?
You can't rely strictly on empirical evidence for anything
Yes you can, retard. Empiryal evidences are absolute truths, based on measurements of reality and nature.

Isaiah Davis
Isaiah Davis

then a pound is a pound, because we defined it as such?
it seems like you consider the pound to be some universal truth that was discovered instead of some arbitrary measurement that was accepted by large organizations to standardize descriptions within and between them
what is the problem?
youre either being retarded or presenting yourself in a retarded way

Hunter Ward
Hunter Ward

it's arbitrary, but self-consistent, which is the point.

Kevin Thomas
Kevin Thomas

the a pound is a pound because we defined it as such
But definitions have no basis in reality, they are abstract.
Can you empirically prove that empirical evidences are absolute truths?
Do you see where I'm going with this yet? Eventually you have to fall back on logic which cannot be empirically proven because it is on principal abstract.

Leo Cooper
Leo Cooper

You doubt makes no sense. Because a pound is just a definition. It could be called "a turdmeter", it doesn't matter. What matters is the number associated with that name, the wheight. You do know that a pound is not the same thing as a kilogram, right? Two different things. But their definition is not important, thats just a way to define that number that is associated witht he objet beiing measured.

Robert Wright
Robert Wright

/r/im12andthisisedgy

Brody Scott
Brody Scott

youre not making a clear point anywhere here so i'll point you back to this post
where i said youre either retarded or being trying to make a point in a retarded way

Nathan Russell
Nathan Russell

No I believe in Allah and his messenger Mohammad (PBUH) You should all follow the teaching of the Quran

Dylan Diaz
Dylan Diaz

i tried to follow the teaching of the Quran but jim deleted my board orz

Jackson Taylor
Jackson Taylor

Can you empirically prove that empirical evidences are absolute truths?
But empirical evidences prove themselves. Look, an example of empirical evidence is "If you put a bowl of water on a fire, that water will boil."
I really don't see where you are trying t get.
Being a non english soeaker, i'm doing the best i can. I'll try again.
Yes, the lbs is a definition used by organizations to standardize not descriptions, but to standerdize quantifications of objects in the real world

Jonathan Harris
Jonathan Harris

/islam/ still exists. Come home, white man!

Brandon Wilson
Brandon Wilson

He was making a pedo joke, retard

Xavier Gray
Xavier Gray

Yes Mohammad (PBUH) Was very white. It is spoken about in the Hadiths

Luke Martinez
Luke Martinez

descriptions was used to mean quantifications of objects my dude

Brayden King
Brayden King

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Carter King
Carter King

That is empirical evidence in tandem with logic, if you were going to use empirical evidence alone, you would have to prove that the water would always boil when placed over a fire. Which could only be done if you observe every single instance of a bowl of water being boiled over a fire, which obviously cannot be done. You use logic to determine that because you placed a bowl of water over a fire and the water came to a boil that it will happen every time. But you cannot empirically prove that it will happen every time, therefore your logical assumption (that a bowl of water will always boil when placed over a fire) cannot be proven with evidence.

Oliver Ward
Oliver Ward

I don't know what to tell you then.

Easton White
Easton White

Empirical evidence, also known as sensory experience, is the information received by means of the senses, particularly by observation and documentation of patterns and behavior through experimentation. The term comes from the Greek word for experience, ἐμπειρία (empeiría).

Jacob Rogers
Jacob Rogers

You doubt the whiteness of Mohammad (PBUH)?
wikiislam.net/wiki/Qur'an,_Hadith_and_Scholars:Muhammad's_White_Complexion

Jackson Miller
Jackson Miller

fixed that image using corrent astrophysical derivations

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Andrew White
Andrew White

maybe that youre sorry kek

Easton Jenkins
Easton Jenkins

and suck his dick

Eli Evans
Eli Evans

Yes I know that. How does that post imply that I don't?

Nathaniel James
Nathaniel James

No i'm actually not sorry. In order for that, i woukld have to be wrong

Jaxson Cox
Jaxson Cox

Thats the definition on "empirical evidence"

Michael Martin
Michael Martin

you were wrong though. both about your misunderstanding of english which contrived the discussion as well as arguing that logic must not be necessary to abstract the results of historical empirical testing to predict the results of newly performed activity

Jaxon Rodriguez
Jaxon Rodriguez

viz., how might you argue that the results of you boiling a pot of water tomorrow be informed by the results of you boiling a pot of water yesterday

Evan Davis
Evan Davis

???
I guess I don't understand the point you're trying to make. As far as I can tell, I did not misuse the term 'empirical evidence'.

Jackson Butler
Jackson Butler

Becasue you would be using the same methods in every experience. If you ut a bowl of water on a fire and the water boils, it is safe to assume that the same thng will happen everytime you put a bowl of water on a fire.

Lucas Turner
Lucas Turner

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Jose Flores
Jose Flores

We're not saying that logic is not necessary to come to accurate conclusions, we're actually saying that it IS but logic itself cannot be proven with observable evidence.
Basically scientific materialism when taken to its own logical conclusion destroys everything we know to be true because all true statements must utilize both empirical evidence and logic.

Austin Bennett
Austin Bennett

But that raises the question "What is logic?"

Asher Butler
Asher Butler

But why is it safe to assume that?

Grayson Rivera
Grayson Rivera

The study of the principles of reasoning, especially of the structure of propositions as distinguished from their content and of method and validity in deductive reasoning.

Luis Powell
Luis Powell

Because, and assuming the conditions are always the same, (those conditions being the existece of fire and a bowl of water), the outcome must forcibly be the same, every time.

Ayden Rodriguez
Ayden Rodriguez

So, logic is the observationo of the world?

Christopher Young
Christopher Young

Can you prove that with empirical evidence? How can you be sure that there wasn't an instance where someone put a bowl of water over a fire and it didn't boil?

Matthew Cruz
Matthew Cruz

No. That's empiricism.

Parker Cox
Parker Cox

yes i can prove it empirically.>>7862016
How can you be sure that there wasn't an instance where someone put a bowl of water over a fire and it didn't boil?
It assumes you diidn't take the water out of the fire, before the boiling point.

Wyatt Butler
Wyatt Butler

But you haven't provided any empirical evidence for this. You have to prove with physical observable evidence that the water will always boil when placed over a fire. The argument you are using right now is a purely logical one and not empirical.

Noah Rogers
Noah Rogers

That is, if you are trying to prove scientific materialism.

Nathaniel Morgan
Nathaniel Morgan

Look dude, stop acting dense. You're a fucking retard.
"You can't proooooove anything!"
Great, useful observation. Fuck off and let the grown ups debate, okay?

William Rodriguez
William Rodriguez

What im tryint to say is, no matter how many times you perform the same experince, using the same methods, the result will always be the same. Nothing could be more simple than this.

Benjamin Watson
Benjamin Watson

And I'm saying you can't empirically prove that. Don't you see the implications here? You can't rely solely on empirical evidence, you MUST use logic in tandem with it. And because logic is immaterial scientific materialism is invalid.

Juan Taylor
Juan Taylor

Do you believe in God?
A part of God is in every person, we are like miniature creators.
Who made you? I mean who actually made you.
A desire to be self conscious
Who picked you?
My self.
I still have vague memories of astral projection that's how I know. I used to have a lot of OBE's when I was a kid. Reality in other dimensions is at higher stage, it's like waking up from a dull dream, but the dream is this 3d dimension. If you wonder what happens after you "die", most of the people return to exactly the same place they came from. One reincarnation is way to short to earn your self a spot in different place unless you do something exponential. I believe in a evolution of soul and that we're in a right place at the right time to earn needed experience. Many reincarnations happened before, many will happen again. There's no time only constant present. The eternal OM.

Cameron Evans
Cameron Evans

gay tbh

Benjamin Wood
Benjamin Wood

Logic isn't immaterial. Let me copy and paste something:
Take two one pound coins, you now have two pounds. Two one pound coins can never be three. Pretty simple.

Brandon Carter
Brandon Carter

But that is a purely logical statement and not empirical.

Adam Hughes
Adam Hughes

it is both

Michael Gomez
Michael Gomez

No it is not, because you haven't presented any empirical evidence to go with it.

Julian Rogers
Julian Rogers

You're empirically a fuckin' cunt

Liam Cox
Liam Cox

i think more than his point is lacking logic

Landon Richardson
Landon Richardson

I'm literally too fucking stupid to differentiate between logical arguments and empirical evidence
The absolute STATE of new atheism

Parker Rogers
Parker Rogers

yes you are

Robert Flores
Robert Flores

Is this how religious folk win arguments? Victory through ignorance?

Joseph Roberts
Joseph Roberts

user wants empirical evidence for everyday experiences

Kevin Martin
Kevin Martin

You can't prove that he doesn't constantly chug horse semen

Nicholas Garcia
Nicholas Garcia

No, but logic ditates that he most likelt does

Wyatt Fisher
Wyatt Fisher

if your empirical evidence indicates that you always chug horse semen you must have used logic to apply those results to this case, otherwise that empirical evidence is inapplicable to everything and is essentially useless

Jayden Long
Jayden Long

universe is eternal
lmao
t.brainlet
even science doesn't say this

Ethan Nelson
Ethan Nelson

Are you a scientist.

Nathaniel Murphy
Nathaniel Murphy

Well, well, well, look at this. A religion thread. I've seen bait after bait thread posted for weeks with very few replies, but someone posts the oldest bait genre on the internet and look how it blows up. lol some things never change. I know much of this thread isn't super specific to Christianity, but I just want to put my 2 cents in. It's like the internet was made for fedoras and christfags to tear into each other.

Seriously though, the Bible and many other religious texts aren't meant to be read literally, but both religious dogmatism and fedoraism are types of autism that cloud the eyes. Recognizing that once taken literally, these stories are nonsense and full of contradictions is the first step to discerning their true meaning, but atheists are often the result of damaging a person with indoctrination and authoritarianism, so instead of adopting a clear mind, they swap one dogma for another as a defensive reaction. The Old Testament, for example, doesn't tell the story of a one true God and the chronicles of a race of chosenites (exceptions may be possible insertions or additions), but that never stopped autistic Jews from adopting it as a kind of ethnic religion and source of energy for a superiority complex.

The Biblical scriptures came from Eastern (and probably some Egyptian influence too) mystery schools that most aren't aware of in the West. If we go even further back, they probably derive from the teachings of the last major worldwide civilization that was concentrated around coastlines and is now under water that some people have called Atlantis. India was able to retain big portions of its civilization and stories after the cataclysm, so many teachings are seen as having Eastern origins. The texts of the Bible were originally used by mystery schools to spread their knowledge in secret. They have esoteric and exoteric interpretations. The esoteric is for those initiated in the secret club to understand, and the exoteric is for fedoras to tip their hats and fanboys to drool over.

It's all allegory, riddles, symbolism, and metaphors.

Thomas Evans
Thomas Evans

I am an atheist who is also pro-theist. I don't believe in God myself but I will defend Christianity until the day I day because I understand Christianities fundamental importance to western culture and social fabric
checkm8 Fedoras

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Connor Johnson
Connor Johnson

You didn't prove anything and you both talk to much about nothing. :D

Chase Cook
Chase Cook

my parents becuase my mom fucked my dad and i came out her croch … you never know what apples are in your apple pie , but you do know who put it in the oven and bought the apples

mom and dad op … why do you not have parents or god. you dont deserve parents or god

lelz ggs

Carson Butler
Carson Butler

wrong you

Austin Torres
Austin Torres

Soap opera much.

Andrew King
Andrew King

wrong you

Aiden Diaz
Aiden Diaz

wrong you

Austin James
Austin James

Do you believe in God?
No, but I don't have a problem with people who do.
Who made you?
My mommy and daddy.
Not your parents, because parents don't pick their kids. Not nature because nature is blind and unconscious, the trees and sun and elements didn't pick you.
Wat.
Who picked you?
No one, you are falling into magical thinking. I am not special and my existence is not some important preordained event etched in the book of a all powerful beings thoughtful plan. Shit just happens yo. The universe doesn't care. It doen't even have the ablitiy to care. Things just are. I just am. No special meaning, no being picked, no plan, things just are until they are not.

Mason Barnes
Mason Barnes

Righteous…this guy knows. :D

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