Why do american lefties tend to prefer Jefferson over Hamilton?

Why do american lefties tend to prefer Jefferson over Hamilton?

I used to be a Jeffersonian, until I learned about Thomas Paine

hamilton is normiecore now

It is because Jefferson economics call for a petty bourgeoisie agrarian nation

Hamilton is closer to britcuck monarchy and Jefferson is more radical.

There was little redeemable about the so-called "Founding Fathers" and Hamilton was the worst of them. Jefferson was the least bad among the "active" Founding Fathers, while the best among them, Thomas Paine, naturally had nothing to do with the creation of the American state and died alone.

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Okay.

But a problem with at least the American liberal left is that they keep upholding right-wing bullshit as if it doesn't empower the right, some of the most egregious being Founding Father worship.

Sorry if that offends any latent Burger patriotic sensibilities.

because other people, because other people worship them, so I must do the exact opposite
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Based Marxposter strikes again.

There's little to no reason to idolize any of the Founding Fathers in general unless you're a stupid burgerland cuckservative. They were all filthy Lockean Anglos and their revolution was a bourgeois one through and through that destroyed the real and present possibilities in the colonies for actual socialism.

That said, Anti-Feds were just better than Federalists

Basically.

The fascists also had some redeeming qualities, too. You think we should sing their praises too?

They helped establish a system of government that was revolutionary at the time. No, they were not right about everything, but there's no harm in acknowledging them for the progress they made. The problem is that many have come to see them as infallible demigods, which helps fuel American exceptionalism and the notion that the constitution is absolute.

You're aware the US wasn't the first merchant republic, right?

Have you ever considered kys

You're aware merchant republics weren't relevant in the 18th century, right? and that they weren't secular?

How is secularism relevant?

The United States didn't even do secularism right. And don't give me "product of their time" shit, the French Revolution was only 6 years after the end of the American Revolution.

because other countries werent secular. the american revolution was, politically, a culmination of enlightenment age thought that helped shape modern government. yes, the french revolution followed shortly after, and it was largely inspired by the american revolution. thomas jefferson helped develop the declaration of the rights of man and of the citizen.

Hamilton was one of the best economists and is one of the reasons that the USA became a super power.

I'm not even American, he should be respected for what can be mined from his theory.

The French Revolutions and its objectives were directly influenced by the American Revolution.

read Zizek

The French Revolution also called for an enlightened monarch and eventually ended in an Emperor, and then another King.

The French Revolution had many influences, the American Revolution was minor.


I'm aware that the French Revolution ended in failure to enact its ideals, but at least it had ideals that were more than just propaganda used to get the working classes to take a bullet for wealthy merchants and landowners.

Jefferson was a president and he made the Louisiana Purchase. As a result he's more prominent historically. It's really just a matter of exposure tbh.

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The France was involved in the American Revolution so it was something people were aware of, and it demonstrated that this kind of class struggle could work in their context.

Even though they eventually went with the 20, why was their first thought to go with the 10? The relevance of bills is as follows:

No, that doesn't seem to be what he said.

You might want to stop being mad for a second and learn to read.

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There were exactly 2 "proto leftists", Jefferson and Paine, and Jefferson is a bit iffy.