(real) christianity redpills Holla Forums

listen to this (skip to 10:30):
youtu.be/pCphRqm8p8c?t=631

Another one:
Degeneracy in Germany, Berlin the capital of Sodomy:
youtube.com/watch?v=htUbL166axQ

Jews against christianity, slave trade, prague and amsterdam:
youtube.com/watch?v=P4ysxvG6SNw

USA and the degeneracy:
youtube.com/watch?v=xoncEKxhh-A

Other urls found in this thread:

my.mixtape.moe/tmuatj.epub
see_the_truth.webs.com/
youtube.com/watch?v=bSe0E1Mp2Ss
youtu.be/Ei_Hu1hcsa4
youtu.be/kDKGvg6HeyY
youtu.be/gXKeiTTN7Wc
youtu.be/KACG9UdxmOs
youtu.be/gIdBuK7_g3M
pastebin.com/9cxmXPCB
mega.nz/#!QoRGARhZ!sKun_Jw7izZcNYngYvfs_90Wi6obUcialZf80c2DTYg
twitter.com/NSFWRedditGif

You believe in magic.
-Souls
-Immaculate conception
-world created 5K yrs ago
-all people are equal

You are the scum of the white race. Forgiveness is for faggots.

terrible!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

When did the bible say the world was created 5000 years ago ? thats a dodgy calculation of an irish catholic scholar, not all christians.

When did the bible say you have to be part of an organized religion?

I don't believe in christianity, but they make good points when talking about current time and real life (instead of 2K years ago)

listen to the links first you retards.
cucks

I should add, most Christians are jew worshiping cucks, except for the ones linked to in OP.

E Michael Jones was Holla Forums before Holla Forums existed and before most of its users were born.

the essence of man is the soul, that invisible source which sees the visible.


Mary was blessed, with God all things are possible.


That's not a dogma or important belief…


ultimately in faith yes, relatively on earth no.
The bible sets hierarchies between man and woman, adults and children, rulers and citizens, masters and slaves.
Discernment is extremely important, discerning between the wise and foolish, the evil and good.


A race is only as good as its traditions and values, what it stands for and what it worships. I'm not sure what pagans worship, ancestors? science? dirt? genes? All have some practical value in the short-run, but in the long-run are ultimately worthless, won't enlighten man and bring him to his highest potential. Dead idols.
Don't forget: Christianity has been a white-gentile religion for 2000 years. It's embedded in our psyche.

You can trace lineages back to Adam. Christianity is outdated. No longer do we need this foreign filth. Christians disregard race and the mortal coil when that's what we believe is most important.

Yes OP, you and a few thousand others like you are right and the two billion Christians who are into racemixing are all wrong.

this is not again race mixing you retard. the last link is actually against that nonsensical MUH RACE MUH NATION

disregard edgelords, acquire true redpilling

remember the greatest commandment

this board has been completely subverted

fuck off christcucks

How many times are you fags going to post this ridiculous screen grab? Not everyone who doesn't like christianity is a shill, retard. Take a look at your own board /christian/, there's an big anti-racism thread still on the catalog.

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Hang your self nigger.

Thanks for making my point for me.

no


your point that what? Holla Forums has been coopted? by human trash like yourself buying into obvious radicalized ideologies so despicable hitler would throw you in the camps himself

racism is not good in Christianity, not in natsoc, not in Holla Forums
only provocateurs and useful idiots think that

Try harder next time

fuck off christcucks

Nigger, if you're going to make E Michael Jones thread's, then at least make it easier to search them in the catalog. Last time when you linked the first vid when it came out, I had to search the whole catalog to find the thread.

I do wonder how good this thread will turn out since the shilling has been godawful the few times I've been on Holla Forums these past few weeks.

However, in the spirit of discussion, here's a question for any Christian - is it useful to study other religions to understand both context of origin and application back when Christianity was "born" and to better understand the deeper significance of the teachings? Christianity is based deeply on Greek roots with some Magian and Semitic admixture. It would seem plausible that understanding on some level where either culture came from and how they tried to connect with God would help get a sense of how you can do it yourself, no?

By the way, lads. Libido Dominandi has been finally uploaded on /pdfs/ as an epub.
>>>/pdfs/4373
Some kind anons link:
>my.mixtape.moe/tmuatj.epub

Holla Forums is race realist

skinheads should go cuck themselves

Try reading what I wrote before you start sperging out.

NIGGERS = SCUM

deal with it.

source: history of Africa

What's the operative difference between 'race realist' and 'racist'?

I'm okay with white christians as long as they don't push the "whites are from israel" theory

(polite sage because this is probably a slide thread)

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but it's the truth, whites are from israel, jews are from the devil

You don't belong there.

Yes, it's very important to understand the origins, customs, etymology, and all of that.

There's a lot of stuff that's misunderstood in the Bible because the original meanings and customs are not known by a given person. The pastor at my church always explains the original meanings and customs, and there's always a deeper, and very different, layer of meaning that's derived from that. It's important.


It's hard to determine what exactly that user means, but when I hear "racism" I think "judgement call, based on race". I know though that there are others who think "hates x race(s)" instead.

Race realism is basically just recognizing that races and racial differences exist.

I don't think people should hate any races (one definition of racism), but they should definitely understand them, and treat them accordingly (race realism).

For example, people who say that we should kill all of any given race are shortsighted, but there's definite merit in keeping different races away from each other for the most part. Most people segregate themselves perfectly fine though, and I think we might just get rid of any forcefulness in this department. Let people segregate, discriminate, or anything they want, and I think this problem will fix itself for most issues.

Every time.
Also, threadly reminder that Trump will be the best President for Christianity since probably forever.

Re post from precious Christian thread.

In my life I have known many pagans, and atheists and various types of Christians. I have given careful study to what kind of life results from these base beliefs. I'm sure you can guess where this is going, most of the pagans I know are absolute liberal democrat voting tree huggers and don't really know that much about their school of paganism. (which I think bears little resemblance to what ancient euros believed, most of it was lost) They, like atheists, thrive on pleasure and degeneracy. After becoming racially aware I decided to start spending more time with my extended family, regular churchgoers. Non degenerate good people, end of story. The trouble with Christianity is determining what God wants from you, many things are taught of this but if you read the bible a large part of the message is that to do good for yourself is to do good for your people. Free yourself from sin (degeneracy and lies) and your society will be pure. I am a member of a small country baptist church with maybe 40-60 members. Nearly all of these members are non degenerate hard working self made millionaires. We meet up every week to pool resources (a lot of resources) and to talk and network. Ultimately I believe the ethnostate will come from these people because they are strong, non degenerate, and all those who I have talked to believe the country will collapse on racial lines, and guess who they're going to fight for? The blacks? Fuck no.
Go into a church and see. See the strong hardworking non degenerate Europeans, because there are so many and they are so strong, and with the right words, the right fucking words they will do what needs to be done. All we need for them is the right words.
You should really have some respect for "Cuckstians" my friend, yes many churches are corrupt and degenerate but they are so easy to spot.
There is nothing in the bible that opposes an ethnostate. When you refer to these country's choosing "between ethnostate and no ethnostate" it is because of the same problem that faces and corrupts all systems, those that want to use it for their own benefit. May they be kike or other. Constitutions have been overridden and rewritten to allow Jews into countries, does this make constitutions and the ethnostate mutually exclusive? NO! It is the loss of principle and foundation that corrupts these societies. The highest ideal must be and will be the race and the ethnostate. This will not be compatible with some christian sects, and they will voice their distaste, be labeled as race traitors and shot or bused away, but my friend you better believe that there are many sects, many peoples of Christianity that will JUMP at the chance to purge sin and kikes to build a racially pure and degeneracy free state.
You can and must not write off all Christians from the ethnostate, we will work with you. We will work in the name of God, and thus the race.

You however are an absolute fucking moron.


Racism is a necessity and has always existed among Christians until the appearance of cultural Marxism.

Proper formation and operation of a church is discussed repeatedly throughout the bible. Without the church there is no religion.

How about previous

Wisdom, knowledge and its application are good, and Christians should definitely be encouraged to learn as much as possible. I studied theology at university and remember this one particular girl saying how she was not interested in anything other than Christianity, and that if Christianity was ever proven wrong she wouldn't want to know. It was mind bogglingly stupid to me; but here's the thing, Christians just like all people, are people, and some people are stupid.

Leftists, anarchists, jews, pagans and a myriad of others love to take the words or actions of a few Christians and label the entire group as that. When one brings up opposition, they shout 'no true scotsman' as some kind of super-special I-win rebuttal. The problem is Christianity has a book that lays out its beliefs in quite extreme detail, so when a Christian starts disagreeing with the 'Christian handbook' (the Bible) then we should correct the ignorant Christian, not just reject Christianity for one person's misunderstanding. Protestantism with its Sola Scriptura further streamlines the process by incoporating it into the core religion; if you disagree with the Bible, you are not a Protestant. This should have resulted in the socialist/feminist/faggot loving 'evangelist' groups being attacked and ostracised and rightly pointed out as non-Protestants. Somehow instead all Christianity has been re-interpreted by their deluded and evil misunderstandings, and actual Christianity has taken a back-seat. Terrible.

Back on point; Christians should always seek to expand their knowledge. The only thing 'off limits' or referred to negatively is: genealogies and the 'occult'. Genealogies have us all having endless arguments over things that do not matter at the end of the day; this does not mean whites should invite blacks to live in their society, instead it means (as is clarified as meaning) wasting time trying to work out who is Israel, who is Judah, who is Dan, etc; is an absolute waste of time, and there is little way for us to know for sure, and with the sacrifice of Christ it does not even matter anyway. The 'occult' revolves around the demonic, and whilst it is good to know how to exorcise devils; trying to study a group known before all else for deceit is a good way to confuse yourself and have yourself taking lies as facts, and this could easily lead you into terrible situation and completely distract you, taking your mind off of what it ought to be focused on.

Those are the only two things that we are advised not to study; in ALL other fields we should seek knowledge, and should always pray for wisdom.

Another Christianity thread. Do any of you guys know you are worshiping a dead kike on a stick?

Those who were raised up on morals of Christianity but dont necessarily follow most of the scriptures atleast are better off than those who take everything 100% to heart and think it was the real religion and shit.

They always attack any other religion who was there before them, when they are supposed to be so to speak "forgiving and accepting". That's exactly like the liberals act. I am religious but I don't go fucking preaching that "MUH REAL WHITE RELIGION" bullshit. It's a pure D/C tactic again to see the kikes in a more "forgiving" way since they worship one.

Exposing Christianity
see_the_truth.webs.com/

Racism means exactly what you think race realism means. Racism was just made into a spooky word that only neo-nazis would bandy about. It's just low cognition people afraid of a word, exactly how people used to be scared of adopting 'nazi'. Protip: The Bell Curve is 'racist'.

Double dubs confirm.

Is it still okay to pray for the destruction of your enemies? Like pray for their deaths? Those who wish harm on you and conspire against you and spread lies about you?

Didn't the Crusaders do it while defending their land from the Mudslimes?

So many people on /christian/ say it's wrong to do it, but I beg to differ since there is so many enemies out there gunning for your head and are willing to do anything to ruin your life. A lot of people can't be saved these days. Since they need to find God for themselves except you trying to "save them" and "forgive them" for doing really fucking horrible shit.

There are bible quotes that people say they oppose to this due to Romans 12:20, Proverbs 25:22, and Ezekiel 36:26.

Psalm 145:20 said otherwise. It's like…you know, there is a degree of which you can tolerate people to forgive them, but there are those who are unforgivable in my eyes.

In my eyes I don't pray for the death of innocents. I pray for justice to be served against horrible people to protect the innocents and those who have been harmed.

Whatever it is, I pray for you my brother. I like the sound of the purge.

Only study the occult if you're an exorcist and a demon hunter.

Nice blogpost christkike, no one gives a fuck, go back to r/christian.

Woops, was meant for

/thread

We know, user, we know. Then again, you're worshipping the god of foreign peoples, the ultimate submission.

Lol

One can still punish another who he loves and forgives.

Nice shitpost. Just go into a decent church and tell me that's not from where the revolution will come.


I do.

every time

How about you bring counter arguments instead of just going "Lol" or are you out of any? Typical christcuck

Any verses where it shows it's acceptable to wish harm on others?

There is nothing wrong with crushing your enemies.

top keks.
Aren't you forgetting objective history? Christianity has been a white-gentile religion for 2000 years. It's embedded in our psyche. The vast majority of jews adamantly rejected Christ and persecuted his apostles.

In the words of St. Paul : "is God the God of Jews only? Is he not the God of Gentiles also? Yes, of Gentiles also!"

Also recall that one of the first converts was Cornelius, a Roman centurion.

OMG I have been posting Bertrand for years. Finally see you/somebody else post him. He is widely hailed in prisons with W.I./ C.I.

Go home moshie

My people were pagan for 20000 years longer at the least. Wouldn't that be 'embedded in our psyche' as you say? Maybe Europeans have the genetic predispositions to not be violent and it actually doesn't have anything to do with whatever religion you ascribe to. I'm not interested in a Jewish book selling me the god of (((Abraham))).

Jesus has a place with Kek, Odin, the Ogdoad, and whatever other old god pantheon we end up reviving next.

This is all (((divide and conquer)))

No, it has been tainted with the liberal cuckisms. We must create a new religion for the future white race from the ground up.

Also turn the other cheek you literal cuckhold. OuO

This

Burgers are more often the one who preach that xianity is the first religion since they have in reality had America for 250 years only, while the rest of us Whites in Europe have been around for way more than that. It is in their mind to think "First is best" while Pagans,Nords, Ancient egyptians etc. had religions WAAAAY before cuckianity was even a thing

Jewsus has no place among them

There's only One God ma'am.
The sooner people come to Him the better. You can worship the Sun or Trees or Thor or your genetics all you want, but ultimately you are missing the point of life without God.

"degeneracy" can only have a proper foundation if it's rooted in Christianity. Without God and his revealed Laws nothing can be said to be "degenerate", it's literally just your opinion man.

Jesus is the prince of peace, anyone with a good and righteous heart can't be offended by him.

fuck off christcucks

God can reveal himself in all manner of ways, even to primitive pagans to some degree…but the truest and fullest revelation is found in his incarnation as Jesus Christ.

No atheist will ever be able to hate Jesus as much as you Jews do, so that's not really as persuasive as you might think it is.

We're also supposed to put degenerates to death, you can't generalize like that.

You are whatever you need to be.

They're all "embedded in our psyshe". the Old Gods AND the morals/lessons of Jesus in Christianity.

When Rome fell it was the germanic barbarian tribes that were set up best to come out on top, and the semites, doing their semitic-parasite thing, knew that the only way in would be co-opt their religion. Christianity is semitic religion plus the old ways.

thus: Christianity is a core pillar that tamed one beastly element out of man and brought us closer to joining the gods– christianity is in our blood AND paganism is in our blood, and this combination has created a civilization that will conquer the stars eternity


we don't have a choice matey, he's been here for a long time and he's here to stay. we don't have a say in who sits in the pantheon of the gods, the memes have minds of their own


we already have/we already are. pic related

What about if we grok that there's an Overgod but feel closer to Him by worshipping in the ways of our ancestors– by giving name and meme to holy partitions that evoke the natural laws of the world?

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fuck off christcucks

It's the spirit and blood of the old gods that SHONE THROUGH the attempt at co-opting the religion. That led to the total badass domininance of white-european christianity throughout the middle ages and rennaissance: christianity as flavored with odinist values

And then we reached so much success with the combination, technologically, intellectually, economically, etc – (((they))) try to co-opt again with communism

if you have no revelation then 'natural theology' is the best one can do, but when a revelation is given to you, you have to make a choice in good conscience.
Ignorance is no longer an excuse for most men, as it was in the past.

If that in your mind is the best way anything can prove a god or higher deity exists, then so be it. But its the first step in the spiritual realm or what goes on there, take a wrong turn and you turn into >>/fringe/

All we need to exorcise is prayer, and in extreme cases fasting. Well have the authority from God to cast out devils, we need only command them. If you want to do more than that, fair enough; I did when I was younger, but separating the good from the lies is an incredibly difficult job and largely a waste of time. Those who go to more extreme methods than prayer and fasting are quite simply wasting time that could be spent in other ways, but I guess we're only human.


Yes. We are supposed to desire justice as Christians, we should pray for evil to be punished.


It is fair to argue that all religions once were worshiping the one true God. Unnatural commonalities between many ancient religions lend credence to this idea. For instance the idea of welcoming strangers, feeding them and the like are in more or less every old culture. This would make senes from a 'social' perspective if it just applied to family or tribe, but it specifically applies to aliens for many old religions.

The Christian would acknowledge that all ancients at one point worshiped the one true God, and that their beliefs became corrupted over time due to disobedience, false prophets, demonic involvement or whatever. To a Christian it should be seen as Man returning to the true faith that has been revealed once more to him due to the graciousness of God in Christ.

There's a few. Here's one example:

fuck off christcucks

I should clarify the ancestors of all people, not all religions. In the beginning Man knew God and worshiped Him. This was lost over time.

All religions did not worship God, was bad wording from me. Apologies.

You realize that even your Bible was partially written from a pagan perspective, right? Why else did the magi from pharaoh's court successfully transform a stick into a snake just as Moses proved his god YHWH could? Why was the pagan magi able to match what YHWH could do? Pretending like the Jews have this claim on the spirituality of the entire world is the oldest and probably the most successful meme ever. Europeans built empires with artistic accomplishments to match long before christianity ever reared its head.

Just fucking excise your poz and make the switch to Zoroastrianism instead of trying to salvage this semitic abhorrence of a religion.

Thank you brother.

Demons.

Why couldn't demons be what YHWH refers to other gods as?

yahweh nigger, or does that sting your eyes?

fuck off christcucks

They are. The false gods are fallen angels or powerful demons. I'm sure many 'gods' began either as a demon seeking worship, or as some person's random fantasy which later was impersonated by a demon who saw the chance to be worshiped.

Your worshiping of kek will attract a demon/fallen angel to masquerade as it, if it wasn't one such diabolical creature that persuaded people to take the jokes to the worship level in the first place.

Also why are jews so afraid to Yahweh when they do not even believe? And if they do believe, why do they keep trying to find ways not to obey his laws. I can understand why the ancients didn't do it, but you atheistic maggots have no good reason. Except tradition I suppose, and I guess your faith is little more than tradition to you seeing as that was the original problem with the pharisees; you people equated the ways of man with those of God.

May God have mercy on you heathen.

The anti-christian rhetoric comes from USA where pozzed churches have made them all look bad, there comes the sages in this thread.

there are 70 lords of the earth [elohim]

So far I've been respectful of you christcuckolds, but you always show your stripe. I'm your same race, same color, yet you view me as a maggot because I don't think fellating a sky kike is a healthy way forward for white nationalism. Kill yourself you paranoid faggot, there are no demons or gods.

fuck off christcucks

I view you as a kike impersonator seeing as you're afraid to say the name of God; Yahweh.

no, your sub 3000 year old semitic worship pales in comparison to 10'000+ years of esoteric hermeticism and nothing you say will change the fact that you adhere to a religion that while steeped in tradition and culture, is not in an era of power right now.

You're not a maggot, just a reddit-tier atheist with the same arguments slightly adjusted.

yahweh is the kike god, and you're a fucking fool
you'll cowards don't even know Ur

Yahweh, god, etc, all the same christcuck shit. You can kill yourself now faggot.

fuck off christcucks

the Christian God refers to the one true God, creator of heaven and earth. He doesn't belong to any "tribe" or "race"…he made everyone and everything in the universe, not only that but he is the foundation of existence and the absolute reality itself, every thing else is but a shadow compared to him…

you pagans probably don't even understand the Logos or its hypostatic unity

Let me guess, you're 'redpilled' though?

nah, tell me what do you know of the animal and vegetable spirits in man

Fools who think they are wise.


Looks like a few of you got triggered. Have you ever stopped to consider why the slightest mention of Christ makes you foam at the mouth? Ever considered that it could be devils manipulating your emotions to make you reject the Truth before even having the chance to consider it?

have you ever stopped to consider christ is but a light of ur as is the ogdoad, as are the pantheons of the various religions sects and mystery schools that came before you stupid faggots
I never said a thing against christ the man was a messenger of peace, nice job assuming there chief.

I was fine in our conversation until you went disrespectful, christcuckold. Go lick an electrical socket, you don't belong on earth.

proof that either god is dead, god hates white or god is truly a kike

See the problem with the 'mystery schools' and the general occult is that its very difficult to ascertain what is the lies of devils and what is the memory of ancient man. It is quite possible we worship the same one true God; it is also possible that you have extra information regarding God that is not contained in the Bible, and it is also possible that you have accepted a load of lies or distortions. Perhaps you have a blend of truth and lies.

What Christians know for a certainty about heaven is admittedly rather little, but what we do gives us a relationship with God. On top of that (as if anything more were needed) we are able to heal the sick, we are able to cast out devils. I'm going to trust what I know is the truth; it is possible God has shared more truths with you that has led you to different conclusions; but seeing as many of your beliefs are in contradiction with what I know, I am inclined to doubt it; and further inclined to doubt it seeing as we know some of the ways that devils manipulate and deceive.

I pray you find the Truth.

fuck off christcucks

Christians do not respect other people or religions and we never will. If you want to be all respectful go and pal it up with some negroes and faggots and all the other scum that demand respect when they are unworthy of it.

And you wonder why no one likes you christcuckolds here

People do not like Christians here because they perceive us as 'liberal' SJWs.

… It is certainly not because Christians are not liberal enough as you propose. Holy crap, just go back to /leftpol/ already.

don't talk down to me craven, being able to heal and exorcise is magick, your scholars practiced alchemy and divination learned from the greeks and sumerians, you have pulled the wool over your own eyes in regards to knowledge if you think that any alternative teachings are just the work of devilry. It's a specter you keep lurking in the corners of your mind in a manner that shows that your faith is not as overflowing as you think. Your foundation may be strong but allowing the fear to fester within due to the whispers of the unknown is a cancer to your soul.

oh really, explain the existence of the state of israel then because it's entirely due to you and your kike worshiping ilk

wut? We're told to love our neighbors and our enemies, to speak kindly and guard our tongues. Also racial rudeness is silly, we can all agree racial differences exist without besmirching an entire people.


please don't

fuck off christcucks

Anglo-masonic actually.

oh please tell me more about the anglo-masonic urge for the land promised to the jewish people in israel oh wait that's actually christian thought stemming from the OT

It is through faith alone and by the authority of Christ that we do our work. We need no talismans or potions, and whilst it is true that Christians may have used them; they are need not have.

Prayer and fasting are the only tools a Christian needs to do such things.


Its continued existence may be down to contributions of Christians in the US, but it says in the Bible that in the end days even the elect will be deceived. These Christians are ignorant in a lot of ways, but that does not mean that had they been studying the Bible as they ought and establishing a relationship with God; that they then would not have known what is right and what is wrong. The sad state of the Church is not the fault of the Bible, or of God, or of the Christian message; it is down to apathy, which is largely down to distortions and lies from corruptors (many of whom are jews).

Speak kindly? Christ and his apostles went around telling everyone that they were wrong, that they were doing evil, that they needed to change right now!

Matthew 10:16-39New International Version (NIV)

“I am sending you out like sheep among wolves. Therefore be as shrewd as snakes and as innocent as doves. Be on your guard; you will be handed over to the local councils and be flogged in the synagogues. On my account you will be brought before governors and kings as witnesses to them and to the Gentiles. But when they arrest you, do not worry about what to say or how to say it. At that time you will be given what to say, for it will not be you speaking, but the Spirit of your Father speaking through you.

“Brother will betray brother to death, and a father his child; children will rebel against their parents and have them put to death. You will be hated by everyone because of me, but the one who stands firm to the end will be saved. When you are persecuted in one place, flee to another. Truly I tell you, you will not finish going through the towns of Israel before the Son of Man comes.

“The student is not above the teacher, nor a servant above his master. It is enough for students to be like their teachers, and servants like their masters. If the head of the house has been called Beelzebul, how much more the members of his household!

“So do not be afraid of them, for there is nothing concealed that will not be disclosed, or hidden that will not be made known. What I tell you in the dark, speak in the daylight; what is whispered in your ear, proclaim from the roofs. Do not be afraid of those who kill the body but cannot kill the soul. Rather, be afraid of the One who can destroy both soul and body in hell. Are not two sparrows sold for a penny? Yet not one of them will fall to the ground outside your Father’s care. And even the very hairs of your head are all numbered. So don’t be afraid; you are worth more than many sparrows.

“Whoever acknowledges me before others, I will also acknowledge before my Father in heaven. But whoever disowns me before others, I will disown before my Father in heaven.

“Do not suppose that I have come to bring peace to the earth. I did not come to bring peace, but a sword. For I have come to turn

“‘a man against his father,
a daughter against her mother,
a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law—
a man’s enemies will be the members of his own household.’

“Anyone who loves their father or mother more than me is not worthy of me; anyone who loves their son or daughter more than me is not worthy of me. Whoever does not take up their cross and follow me is not worthy of me. Whoever finds their life will lose it, and whoever loses their life for my sake will find it.

fuck off christcucks

Did somebody say >>>/christ/ cuck thread?

Agreed.

so only a true christian doesn't use ritual and alchemy huh

yea, you can correct and educate people, but do it in an "innocent" and "shrewd" way, instead of coming off as rude, mean-spirited or condescending.

Recall what James said:
"the tongue is a small part of the body, but it makes great boasts. Consider what a great forest is set on fire by a small spark. The tongue also is a fire, a world of evil among the parts of the body. It corrupts the whole body, sets the whole course of one’s life on fire, and is itself set on fire by hell…With the tongue we praise our Lord and Father, and with it we curse human beings, who have been made in God’s likeness. Out of the same mouth come praise and cursing. My brothers and sisters, this should not be…"

fuck off christcucks

heh, stay a while and listen

I did not say that. I doubt there is a Christian alive, including myself, who is not acting erroneously due to ignorance in some way. I have no doubt that a great many Christians, both dead and alive, have believed heresies and acted in ways that God would not desire. That does not mean that they did not try to follow Christ, it does not mean they did not believe in God or seek to do His will.


I do not respect the religious beliefs of atheists or pagans. In many cases I'm sure been overly rude and horrible when it was not necessary; but I will not respect ideologies that lead people away from God.

If that's what Jesus looked like holy christ he's handsome. Wish I had luscious locks like that, and man at least I can sport a similar beard. I actually look similar to the guy as well what do you know?

Jesus probably looked very average. But maybe not…

let me reiterate if it's not clear, your faith is powerful and something I respect, but you must understand that the interpretations that you are presenting here would be considered heresy in certain eras or societies, and that your perspective on the nature of christianity is not shared by many on these boards that call themselves your brothers.

Yet as someone who doesn't prescribe to your school of belief, you do not respect me solely because I am not subservient to your god. That seems downright ridiculous, considering others in your sect see a different god.

His eyes are bigger and much bluer in the art than mine. Average men actually look pretty good, same with average women. Women use too much damn make up which wrecks their faces far quicker than average.

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It's been proven however, the chemicals break down skin tissue dramatically faster in the facial area.

You don't have to respect it, but don't be so rude or inflammatory that you make matters worse. Weight the situation, and act wisely. There's surely a time to be rude and abrasive, but be wise.

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I just want to point out that he said he doesn't respect Atheist or Pagan beliefs, I doubt he meant that he doesn't respect the people themselves. He was very particular with his wording.

All that matters in the end is that you come to know Christ and have a relationship with God. I want you to have that.

I will not respect anything that leads you away from that.

No different than software, and wholly subsumed to the physical universe.


Mary was a dirty slut and Joseph a dutiful cuck. Both were batshit.

People like him are laughed at on /christian/. It's ridiculous that the deus larpers think they hold sway over anyone.

Heres a thread of /christian/s being tired of the deus larpers there too: >>>/christian/311940

You are the height of racecuck.

You may hate niggers, and their varieties (sand, curry, etc). But you worship a nigger-tier invasive 'god' and are proud of it. You are like that cuck Joseph with the whore Mary choosing to accept that bastard christ-child.

You are perfect chattel for the Jew, even if you don't know it.

and belief typically is an extension of character, as i'm sure many would agree.

OH GOD IT'S A HAFLING KIKE SHREW FUCKING RUN, RUUUUUUUUUUUUUUN

Couldn't care less about what a bunch of tradition-revering Papists thought of me. They think only the Pope has the power to bind and loose! They think that the Pope can change the Bible, that God can change His mind (depending on the Pope's whim), they pray to the dead (necromancy), believe they cannibalise Jesus every month, call their priests 'Father' when they are specifically told not to call anyone but their Father in heaven by such a title, and accept voodoo-practitioners as fellow 'Christians'.

There are still Christians with faith out there. Our numbers are growing. Christ is the head of the Church, not some communist with a stupid hat.

Made my mark at >>>/christian/326926

Found a video of you…

Beliefs can change, and beliefs can change a person, they're not the person, but they have an effect, and a relationship with the person. To put what that user was saying into perspective, from what I understand, he was basically saying "I don't believe that those beliefs are best for you, and I don't like that they keep people from being their best, so I can't respect them." That's reasonable, don't you think? It's not that he doesn't respect you. He wants good things for you, if I understand right, and he can't respect those beliefs because he doesn't think they're good for people.

Don't forget the thread about racism: >>>/christian/312796. Also, try to make your post a little more substantive, jej.

honestly though, why?
this is the type of stuff that riles them up and makes them come here

while your interpretation may be true, why presume to answer for them.

Well, I'm going to drop my 2 cents and then hide this fucking shameful thread.

I'm a Christfag, and I'm asking all Christians in this thread to stop falling for it and start ignoring these divisive threads. There will be plenty of time for religious bickering (on a politics board, by the fucking way) AFTER the election. I would ask the same of the atheists and pagans, please. Obviously, there's no point in asking the jews at CTR to stop being faggots.

Unity is needed right now, guys. They'll play on our autistic need to be right every chance they fucking get, and we need to be vigilant. Stand together or fall apart.

Actually it is me just turn the guy white and younger then it's me. Why am I such a screw up?

It's just how I see it, judging on those few things they've said. It reminded me of how I talk, and what I mean when I say things like that. I'll admit that I'm kind of throwing my own view into it, since it's a familiar way of thinking to me, but a ways into typing it all up, I wasn't sure how to edit it to reflect that these might be just my own views that I'm injecting into it here.

Still, what they said is similar to what I say sometimes, so I thought there might be a miscommunication going on, and I was trying to fix that. Hopefully they can verify, or correct whatever I've said, especially if I was wrong.

I thought it was obvious. I want the best for you people, and I'm not going to be kind about the things you are doing wrong. I'm not here to manipulate you with kind words or complex dogma; I'm just going to say it how it is.

The occult has led many people astray with its endless tomes and myriad interpretations. Atheism is a religion to most people who think that science has actually answered every question; and as such they need not think for themselves ever again but just trust the scientists not to lead them astray. They also believe it has disproved God. Lies and deception, both.

Both are distracting people from God. Wiser words have perhaps never been said than these; "Y'all need Jesus!"

fuck off christcucks

Come to the light. Christ is the way of stagnation and death.

the thing is that while we both believe in god, yours, from what i can tell, doesn't have a vast array of multifaceted manifestations through the ages, just one.

i do appreciate your input

source, I can't breathe

I'm sure people have called God by different names and emphasised different aspects of Him throughout history. I'm sure there are records that we have erroneously labeled as heathen, and I do not doubt that there were (and are( many unrecorded instances of God interacting with many if not all the different peoples of the world.

However I also believe (and I see the evidence as supporting my belief) that these perhaps once Godly people or even religions/ideologies lost their connection to God (likely due to other human concepts becoming more important to them than God Himself, which is what happened to the Pharisees who became jews). As such whilst you may find the one true God appearing to help people or being worshiped by people throughout history, all but the Christians ended up having a corrupted version of God, assuming they did not simply replace Him with a pantheon or other deity, and then those were either nothing but imagination or a demon/fallen angel.


Thank you for translating for me.

your whole premise is based upon the christian aspect being the only true one, which while that is your belief, is not mine. I understand what you are saying but it seems this is a gap that cannot be crossed.

Anti-christians are the same anti-authoritarian cucks that belong with liberalism.

there's a difference between "anti" and "counter"

Tell me how will you establish a holy order of esoteric hitlerism, asatru society now?

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It is, and that is of course based upon faith that I cannot prove to you. I understand your logic, but I am still convinced that Jesus is the Way, the Truth and the Life; and that none will come to the Father except through him.

So I would like to ask that you give some time to Christianity. I hope you find the Truth.

nice assumptions there about my beliefs why don't you ask someone who actually posited such notions

ElectroBoom on jewtube. One of his points is showing that the shit he does isn't necessarily lethal.

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this conversation has been informative but you are falling back on the holier than thou stuff that needs to excised, you may think your words of prayer and hope are something viewed as civility but telling someone you hope they find your belief system is rather arrogant.

Perhaps it arrogant, but would it be better for me to sound unsure about my faith?

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You're welcome, anons! I'm glad I could help, and I very much appreciate the appreciation.


I also have an idea that I'd like to run by you to see what you think of it. It's a better question for atheists (since you're a pagan, if I'm not mistaken), or people who otherwise don't believe in anything supernatural, but I'm going to see what you think anyway.

The question is simple, why are you you, and not me, or anyone else? There are many humans, and many conscious beings, but there's uniquely only one of you, and that's you. You aren't found anywhere else in the entirety of existence. Clearly, you're a supernatural being. How do you make sense of that?

It's the only reasonable thought of paganism nowadays.

As a fedora-for-cause, being that I chose to toss that shit-sandwich of a book into the fire born of pure rage for what the kike has done to my people over the millennia. From since the kike first succeeded in introducing this toxic descendant of jewry into Roman society (which was already degenerating and thus was ripe for coopting) all the way to this argument today, the kikes are responsible for destroying countless millions of minds and lives.

Kikes and their lemmings follow and promote spiritualism and mysticism in opposition to what reality says. That is the fundamental meaning of science: to keep an eye toward reality and logic, and not give into delusions. Mysticism is the tell-tale mark of their work.

They are a parasite which must be expunged from existence. Their enablers should first be reprimanded, and if repeat enabling occurs they should also join the parasite.

no but it would be best in the future to consider that the tone you intend with such words is not always interpreted as such.

according to whom, yourself?

oof that's a doozy and one i'm honestly not prepared enough to answer with actual thought at the moment, but I'm a nutjob who believes in things like string theory, resurrection, and transference of the immortal soul that is a facet of the light of all, so I try not to dwell as much on the existence of me as i perceive myself to be now but me as who I am in the unification of the other selves this soul has seen and will continue to see.

probably not what you are looking for, but like i said- nutjob.

The wrath of God is being revealed from heaven against all the godlessness and wickedness of people, who suppress the truth by their wickedness, since what may be known about God is plain to them, because God has made it plain to them. For since the creation of the world God’s invisible qualities—his eternal power and divine nature—have been clearly seen, being understood from what has been made, so that people are without excuse.

For although they knew God, they neither glorified him as God nor gave thanks to him, but their thinking became futile and their foolish hearts were darkened. Although they claimed to be wise, they became fools and exchanged the glory of the immortal God for images made to look like a mortal human being and birds and animals and reptiles.

Therefore God gave them over in the sinful desires of their hearts to sexual impurity for the degrading of their bodies with one another. They exchanged the truth about God for a lie, and worshiped and served created things rather than the Creator—who is forever praised. Amen.

Because of this, God gave them over to shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural sexual relations for unnatural ones. In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed shameful acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their error.

Furthermore, just as they did not think it worthwhile to retain the knowledge of God, so God gave them over to a depraved mind, so that they do what ought not to be done. They have become filled with every kind of wickedness, evil, greed and depravity. They are full of envy, murder, strife, deceit and malice. They are gossips, slanderers, God-haters, insolent, arrogant and boastful; they invent ways of doing evil; they disobey their parents; they have no understanding, no fidelity, no love, no mercy. Although they know God’s righteous decree that those who do such things deserve death, they not only continue to do these very things but also approve of those who practice them.

what book/verse is that again

i'm going through some soul crushing shit right now that's sort of related, been thinking about this passage - i'm gonna pick up my bible and i want look for it

i mean i know you're paraphrasing, i want to know where it talks more about that

romans 1
you can copy-paste google search any sentence and it'll appear…

Beat me to it.


If there's something specific you're going through I could try to find some related scripture if you want to share some details? If not I hope you find what you need.

You see why it's fitting to ask atheists this question though, right? In my opinion, it's like hard evidence that something supernatural is going on at least.

I can't fault you for not having a simple and straightforward answer. The important part is that you understand the point of the question in the first place, and it seems to me that you do. That's very good! It's better than most have done when I've asked this question. Still, sometimes it's just hard to determine if they get it or not.

I've had people respond with "it's due to impulses in your brain" to paraphrase, and stuff like that. Clearly missing the point. If it were due to some brain configuration, then why have you always been in this same body, despite all of the changes it's gone though? It just makes no sense. There's no material explanation for yourself.

Either way, I'm glad you get the importance, and the implications. This is just something I realized along the way, and it's such an incredibly fundamental part of our experience that it's easily overlooked.

I always believed in souls, since I was raised as a Christian, and I've only come to agree with it more and more, but this one dawned on me much later.

Also, I don't have a problem with nutjobs. While I do find a lot of things that nutjobs believe to be frustrating, there's also a higher level of dialogue that I like to participate in as well. I believe some nutty things myself. Reality is pretty ridiculous sometimes, and I'm just trying to figure out the truth, but the problem is that reality is definitely a bit strange. I actually believe meme magic is real, but I don't believe in Kek. I believe Kek is a meme as well, and an illusion that was created, just like any meme that has influenced reality though meme magic.

I think our beliefs influence reality. In that way, when we're doing science to "discover" what exists, we're really just influencing it to happen that way. I think God does play a part in this though, and keeps it logically consistent, and also probably several other things that he oversees as well. There's certain things I don't think we have the authority to change about reality.

The only things which are clear: rich or poor, pretty or ugly, important or superfluous, strong or weak, married or petulant, pro-social or antisocial, death takes all. All our bodies obey the same dynamics as rocks, furniture, air, fluids, etc, in that they exhibit behavior that systems which must obey the laws of thermodynamics have. With our sciences of chemistry and biology, we know that the body is composed of trillions of cells; trillions of little machines which can be adequately described to be von Neumann machines. We know these machines absolutely require chemical energy and a certain wide set of chemical structures from which they rebuild themselves (using internal instructions), and on which they depend for external signalling.

The brain is composed of these machines. The neuron arranges itself so as to select which local outputs of other neurons to observe. Simulating a close analogue to the neuron: the artificial neuronet, has resulted in massive success. Just in the last year we're seeing very sophisticated musical pieces being written entirely from start to finish by artificial neuronets. (In my opinion, the best composer of RetroWave will probably end up being an ANN trained on hundreds or thousands of hours of unique clips encompassing the desired 'feel' of the music.) Psychological functions in the brain are localized, such things as facial recognition. There is really a part of your brain I can go in and scramble, and everything will be alright in your existence from your perspective but human faces will be as difficult/impossible to recognize as some random steer's face out in the herd. Eyes, nose, mouth, will all be there but it would be like looking at Japanese characters and not knowing Japanese: there's no meaning and therefore you don't recognize even your mother's face or your own! What, did you think recognizing grandma is a 'soul' function? Grow up, child!

Point is, until humans can develop a machine which can take a snapshot of the wiring of the brain at a given moment (and store this snapshot: seens how such a diagram would take ~70% of the entire world's HDD capacity back in 2012 to store one brain's full-resolution wiring map), there is no life after your body begins decaying too much to sustain homeostasis. Without a duplicate of your neuronet, your 'soul' (which doesn't exist anymore specially than data on a disk, or chess-piece arrangement on a chess board) is effectively vaporized from what is called the 'current state' or 'everpresent now' of the Universe (consequences continue causally though, like reverberations). Your only hope of future existence at death is that you are a member of some superintelligent species and this is some virtual reality sim you paid good space-credits for that just wrapped up. Otherwise you are as deleted as your 20010 porn collection folder.

Nobody is exempt from slamming into the great entropic wall. We can only find ways of delaying it. There is no eternal salvation, only being eternally jewed.

ty, yeah i know i was in the middle of something else
idunno, also my head isn't really on straight rn sry
just trying to get as much info as i can


thanks, don't want to share too many details/derail - long and short of it, gf cheated on me w/ her ex in a pretty degenerate way.

i care about her and i'm very forgiving, but also just don't have time for this shit. the feels need sorting…any suggestions are appreciated

kek, so many ironic things about that insult

It is! You use kike books! The first few of your unholy book are from that toilet-paper collection called the Torah.

"perspective defines experience" has been my favorite user quote for a while now, and i think is a fundamental concept to our existence.

I actually agree with almost this whole post, although I'm inclined to believe that the slowly waking ogdoad is the most powerful godform at this particular point in our collective experience. This conversation has been quite pleasant and leaves me with much to mull over, fare well fellow traveler (i don't mean that memetically at all).

the term kike was used to make fun of jews for being anti-christian and refusing to draw X's on their identification cards cause they look like "Crosses"

fuck off christcucks

but we made a covenant to not do things that way anymore, m8, because it was toilet paper

don't be so d&c

1 Corinthians 6:18-20New International Version (NIV)

Flee from sexual immorality. All other sins a person commits are outside the body, but whoever sins sexually, sins against their own body. Do you not know that your bodies are temples of the Holy Spirit, who is in you, whom you have received from God? You are not your own; you were bought at a price. Therefore honor God with your bodies.

Jeremiah 13:23New International Version (NIV)

Can an Ethiopian change his skin
or a leopard its spots?
Neither can you do good
who are accustomed to doing evil.

1 Corinthians 10:13New International Version (NIV)

No temptation has overtaken you except what is common to mankind. And God is faithful; he will not let you be tempted beyond what you can bear. But when you are tempted, he will also provide a way out so that you can endure it.

1 Thessalonians 5:15New International Version (NIV)

Make sure that nobody pays back wrong for wrong, but always strive to do what is good for each other and for everyone else.

Mark 11:25New International Version (NIV)

And when you stand praying, if you hold anything against anyone, forgive them, so that your Father in heaven may forgive you your sins.”

Peter replied, “Repent and be baptized, every one of you, in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins. And you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit.

What you do is of course up to you, but remember even with Jesus that mercy is dependent upon repentance.

jews that follow the torah are pretty amicable

it's the talmudists that are the problem

fuck off christcucks

Ya, I really enjoyed this conversation too, and I'm glad that it seems that we agree with one another on several things. It's one of those bittersweet times on an anonymous imageboard that I don't know who I'm talking to, but these places are so important anyway, and especially for the anonymity.

Thanks for the quote, and the fact that you're not referring to me as a freemason (which I'm really not) is noted. :^)

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keep it up, you're here for a reason

reminder that this isnt asatru garbage, its roman paganism and irish paganism, the asatru fags were the scum of europe and nobody wanted their bullshit to propagate going forward.

Fedora here.

You are you because the 'you' which is thinking of "Hey, let me try to mentally pretend I'm actually jumping into Charlie's brain/existence over here really really hard… well its not working, darn," is a physical system of neurons which are effectively entirely disconnected from Charlie's neurons way over there. You are technically everywhere and in everyone's heads as you are a subspace of and within the Universe, but the 'you' you isn't everywhere and is only local. Everyone is all of one thing: Universe. Each person has a set footprint within the space of the Universe.

People are like computers. How can computer A have any idea what the contents of computer B's RAM is without some sort of physical 'connection' between the two being made? One's psychology, the "who I am," is fundamentally formed initially by genes, and is then whittled, shaped, and featured through experience. The mental state people of similar race/genetics are born in is relatively the same from one to the next, but separate experience will do much of the shaping.

The universe doesn't think, it computes. It is always computing everyone at all times at all places. You are an amalgamation of countless numbers of cellular/particle automatons like in Conway's Game of Life. While the automatons are like the water in a stream, your body, mind, and mind-state in the particle-medium are like the vortices at the water's edge.

Your brain only remembers that which, from its perspective, it sensed. It cannot remember that which was sensed wholly by someone else. This is why you cannot convey sensations to sensation-blind people (like red to the [color]blind). My guess as to why this Universal program is running the way it is (with an 'everpresent now' that changes and morphs, rather than the whole thing running at once and a single answer output), is probably due to a space/processing limitation in the Universe.

Of course the words I use imply a programmer/creator, which is not what I intend. I only use computer terminology to paint the picture that humans are not special compared to computers, just vastly more complex. The complexity scale between a simple lever and the CIA's new IBM-built Siren supercomputer cluster also spans the complexity between that supercomputer cluster and human brain.

Yea, so?

I can use a modern slur against an ancient parasite.

What's wrong, minister didn't molest your gay butt like your friend Chris down the street had done at his local mission?

It's not d&c, it's "Shut up about your autism for some fried kike on a stick! Nobody cares and it's not going to save EVROPA!"

Enjoy looking after your wife's son.

Emotions are worthless counselors. Marriage is for making babies and raising people of good character. The rest are the bullshit fantasies of women. Ultimately there's only one question you have to ask yourself.
Is this woman really mother material?

It all makes sense now.

This Jew claims he can "debunk" Christianity through the Talmud.
youtube.com/watch?v=bSe0E1Mp2Ss

Here's one.

Medieval propaganda worked well, I see. Hell is not what God does to you, hell is existence without God.

Jews think that the last prophet must be jewish, and thats why they claim jesus was not the last prophet, they say he wasnt a real jew.

I've given Christianity a shot. The bible is an amalgamation of vague aphorisms and desert tribal fables, of only real significance to those living in that time and place. It always seemed like an alien faith to me, and I could see no reason for people to adopt it, other than the fact that it's an easy, universalistic faith that literally anyone can adopt, and which makes absolutely no demands of it's adherents.

fuck off christcucks

Nope it's not. It's the ultimate pessimism. "Life is horrible and unlivable unless there's a magical God up there, in which case suddenly it's amazing." An honest glimpse at reality will tell you that's wrong. (Eg. Try living without God for a few months and you'll realize that life is the same.)

I have a couple of questions.

1. Are you saying that I am in fact everyone else as well?

2. Are you saying that computers, no matter how simple, are also part of this universal consciousness that is also me?

Oh wow that totally changes things, listen, no one wants to get into a philosophical discussion of what life means with or without the jewish desert volcano god, because he clearly doesn't exist. For an existence without god to matter as a discussion point, it would have to be demonstrable that such an existence would be a miserable one. It isn't. I live a happy life abiding by a common-sense set of morals with no jewish volcano god worship involved.

No. Hell is your identity going on forever. Read what is actually being said of hell/Gehenna by Christ. Better yet, read up on the theology and studies on hell.

To you, that is just a statement. Put it in context, a parable told by Jesus, and you would see a statement. However, look through the parables and you see an anomaly. It has a name in it.

First of all, your idea of God is a straw man; a yeti or fairy - easy to knock down. Secondly, life wouldn't be "horrible" it would be "not worth living."

I will force-feed you.

So you watched a kung fu movie and think you deserve a black belt.

fuck off christcucks

you should give the New Testament a read

Definitive redpill which dispels the fiction of Christian Zionism. I REALLY suggest any and everyone watch this.
youtu.be/Ei_Hu1hcsa4

Ending of this ex-KGB's "psychological warfare" lecture which you should also check out.
youtu.be/kDKGvg6HeyY

Before the Johnson Amendment, Father Coughlin speaks out against The Jew's Communism
youtu.be/gXKeiTTN7Wc

Montage of our fashy friends united in Christ against the Jew
youtu.be/KACG9UdxmOs

"Long march through the institutions" explained thoroughly
youtu.be/gIdBuK7_g3M

pastebin.com/9cxmXPCB


1 Corinthians 9:20 ESV

1 Corinthians 1:12-13 KJV

2 Thessalonians 3:10 ESV

Jeremiah 7:16-17 ESV


mega.nz/#!QoRGARhZ!sKun_Jw7izZcNYngYvfs_90Wi6obUcialZf80c2DTYg
I personally suggest Mere Christianity and The Case For Christ.

fuck off christcucks,

(nice Satan trips)
I was a Christcuck for 22 years before the conditioning finally broke. I even went to a Christian university and did Bible study.

Now that I don't try to see everything through the lense of religion, I have a much clearer mind and broader perspective and understanding of the world. Otherwise, life is pretty much unchanged. I have a little more responsibility and personal decision. I'm not a hedonist, but someone with a little more freedom to shape my own values and goals.

There are some missionaries in my family and we put aside our differences largely because we view Islam and mass immigration as a major threat. But it's usually me informing them and teaching them about why Trump is the right one to vote for, and the most they usually have to contribute are theories about how this is foretold in the Bible - not very practical and really a waste of energy. These same people wasted resources in foreign countries trying to push their culture and religion on others. Unfortunately Christcucks have a tendency not to think very critically and to do be very heavily influenced by their religious leaders.

What the fuck is this bullshit?? The kikes are the most legalistic, rationalistic people the world has ever known; everything they do goes according to laws and technicalities. Europeans have been mystic since day 1

Fuck off, CTR.

why do you even exist? what is the meaning of life? where are we going and where do we come from? how does man relate to the Absolute and Eternal? whence cometh evil and suffering and tragedy?

Reported for intl.

Yet you must use a false idea of God to prove Him wrong? I wouldn't call it clearer.
Americans…

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1. Your physical body is a piece of the Universe. The Universe is everywhere. You are of the Universe just like everyone else is. You are computed by the Universe like everyone else is. What separates you from everyone else is locality and the state of your physical body. All 'you' that is you really is, is that physical body. Once it dies 'you' are gone, but the Universe which is computing 'you' continues on. The vortex disintegrates, but the stream flows on.

2. Your brain is conscious. The universe may or may not be (it isn't until someone can repeatably show that it is). Consciousness requires structure. Without something which resembles a neuronet, or simulates the function of one, there can be no consciousness. What we call consciousness is our ability to sense our surroundings, come up with good representations of those sensations, cognitize on them, remember and recall facts about them, and take actions which are better than random-chance at resulting in an intended outcome.

Computation is more fundamental than consciousness. The rock rolling down the hill is a computation to the Universe, like the water going over a fall, or the plasma running through your retina's capillaries. The Universe does not think "I'm going to X" anymore than a swinging pendulum or burning star does.

Consciousness requires computation. There can be no consciousness without computation.

Therefore I don't think the Universe is conscious without a structure to compute consciousness through.

Questions like this are meaningless to me. Probably errors and mistakes of language.

They seem to be innate in life. Strong cultures and individuals embrace them. Pessmistic cultures and religions declare that life is "bad" because it contains suffering and that we ought to dream of some other world that is different.

You don't talk like the person receiving information. You talk as if you were merely the body. The driver's seat is empty, but the car is driving. Why?

Reported for intl.

So you admit your new system of belief gives you syntax errors whenever anything important is discussed?
Like the Chinese when they torment their food?

ahh yes, ignorance is bliss…in the short-run.

REAL CHRISTIANITY IS A JEWISH SECT

CHRISTIANS ARE FOLLOWING A JEWISH RELIGION

JESUS WAS A JEW FROM JUDEA


JEWS ARE A SEMI-RACE!!

That, sir, is not the right question.

FILTHY PISSTIAN MODS SUCKING ON NIGGER DICKS AGAIN


here is your home:
>>>/christian/

There is no clear true idea of God because the Bible is so vague and open to interpretation. Christcucks themselves can't agree on the specifics.


I consider metaphysics likely to be an error.

You're welcome to believe that there's a "meaning to life" if that comforts you, and to posit your religion as the answer - with no real proof or way to validate that, just a blind faith on your part. I don't need that sort of comfort because I reject the validity of the question.

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My exact, unending experience.

oops, meant for

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torah is jewish

if you follow the torah you are a jew
if you follow the new testament you believe in the torah.

YOU ARE A CHRISTIAN JEW
CHRISTIANITY IS JEWISH BUT OF A DIFFERENT SECT

Reported for intl.

Christians don't follow the Law of Moses
Christian Jews would be those like the Nazarenes or the Ebionites

Thank you for this! Awesome.

The Shepherds Chapel is another ministry that teaches about the serpents seed/cain line being the "Jews". Also he teaches about the 6th day creation of the races and 8th day creation of the white Adamic man.

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Just as there is no clear true idea of matter… Christians do agree that God is immaterial and Aquinas formulated God very well. Most laymen do, however, think of God as "the highest being." rather than The act of being itself.
That's the thing, though. We disagree with specifics, not the general idea.

I understand what you're saying, user, but I think it's missing the fundamental piece of information that I was trying to get at. I'm not trying to just say that you're wrong, but I believe that answer doesn't logically satisfy the question due to this missing piece of information, so I'm going to try and restate the question another way, to see if it you get what I'm saying that way instead.

You say that consciousness requires computation, and indeed that may be true, but in a similar way, I'm talking about another concept that requires consciousness, but is actually an independent concept from consciousness.

I want you to examine yourself real quickly, and then I want you to examine someone else. What is fundamentally different about you from them? You're a person, you're alive, you're conscious, you're fundamentally the same thing, right? But, there's a difference. You're you, and you're not them. You're different by simple virtue of being you. This doesn't make sense if we're just talking computation, because the only place that you exist in this entire universe is in your body, but if you take your body apart, you're made of the same materials, and much of the same structures as anyone else. There's nothing unique about you, physically, but there's something apparently immaterial that exists, and that's what you are. It's not a computation, because again, a computation requires a computer. This has no apparent computer making it real.

Do you see what I'm saying? It's not consciousness that I'm talking about. It's the unique property of being yourself. You exist nowhere else in this universe, and it doesn't matter that you're conscious, cause there's trillions of conscious things, but only one of them is you. If it was just consciousness, then none of them should be you at all. You shouldn't exist, but you do.

exactly they are an own jewish sect same as isalm

the first followers of jesus were all jews.
christianity was initially for the jews of isreal. but then it spread into the whole middle east.

CHRISTIANITY IS ANTI WHITE

CHRISTIANS SPAM Holla Forums TO CONVERT PEOPLE TO THEIR STINKY SECT.

Except the New Testament pretty much invalidated the Old Testament as the binding law for the religion. That was the whole point of the new testament; it's a new covenant.

You might as well be saying that members of the Bolshevik party were czarist loyalists since they were both Russian parties.

Magic and souls are real
Conscious influence upon the universe is magic whether it's raising immaculate creations from the dusts of the earth or influencing the minds of others.
Souls are your life force, it is your life, it is your conscious, it is you. When you sign a loan for example, you must spend a large amount of your life working that loan off because you sold your soul.
I fucking hate Christianity fyi

Pauline (Gentile) Christianity is pretty much just Hellenistic philosophy making use of a Jewish myth as a framing device
It's like if a German wrote a play about Ethiopia

it doesnt matter if old shit skin law is overwritten with new shit skin law. what matters is that christianity is
ANTI WHITE

its based on an illogical shit religion form the middle east and it promotes multiculturalism.

it also says jews are not a race. means if a kike converts to cristianity then he is no longer jewish by christian point of view.

this allows jews to hijack the top positions in christian society.

also christianity does not allow the destruction of the jewish race.

Yes, I may not have addressed it very well.

The 'immaterial' thing is the state of the constituent parts which make up you. Basically, their positions and momenta. You are not the atoms, you are the form which the atoms take. You are like a vortex in a stream. The vortex is in a medium of water, but it could well be alcohol, or 100 micrometer diameter ball bearings.

Where you err is in thinking there is no computer making it real. The Universe itself is the computer. While our form of computer is a special apparatus which accepts special instructions, the Universe moves things around according to their current and just immediately previous arrangements.

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Esoteric Christian here. It's hard to explain my faith and learnings without derailing shit, so we'll save that for another time.

You know what pisses me off about Christianity? It's so easily warped. Yeah, I understand that the majority of people aren't very smart and need to be led, but the church leaders all use emotional manipulations, like guilt trips. This is where the biggest issue lies, since it's so obviously warped by the marxists into white guilt. The church will use guilt trips, and I'll break these up into subpoints

The church leader places himself as an intermediary between the believer and God. Every church leader will do it. They'll use that one verse from Matthew, "Depart from me, I never knew you," to scare you into submission. It also breeds a nice mindless submission to authority, because you're conditioned to automatically submit to authority. It's easy to see how this gets warped by the jews, because they'll point out (((Pauline))) verses to trip you up.

Air 1 is a Christian radio station that plays modern Christian music and pulls this card all of the time. Basically, the station is supposedly run on donations (yet the DJs have never starved hmm…). They'll play up that people truly NEED the station, so you have to donate, or you're evil. They'll pony up some people that are crying and talking about how they were drug addicted messes about to kill themselves and then they heard Air1 the day they were to kill themselves and decided to find God. This applies to every hustler in Christianity. "Y'all need my book, you're going to hell."

I'm convinced this is an invention designed to keep people submissive. Anyway, the concept is almost entirely warped 1:1 into white guilt. This is why white people are so easily duped into cultural marxism. From childhood, it's drilled into their heads, "You're evil, you're just naturally an enemy against God." So when they drift from faith, that brainwashing still exists. In fact, the brainwashing is so widespread, that it's become a meme. Christian teachers are experts at creating and preying on masochistic tendencies.

Remember my first point about guilt trips? The goal of those is submission to authority. Even when fallen out, these ex-believers still have conditioned desire to submit to authority, in this case, the university professors and eventually the government. People are so dependent on shit because they were brainwashed by the Churches themselves to be dependent on a leader.

So now it reads, "You're naturally evil because you're white, a natural enemy against the government." And (((who))) has infiltrated the churches? (((Who))) wants a one world government?

'Soul' was invented to escape the fear of mortality.

The closest equivalent to 'Soul' I can give you is the arrangements/shapes/forms which make your memories and personality possible. Problem is, the lie is the 'Soul' survives death. It does only if a copy is made, and that it will survive so long as copies exist in adequately uncorrupted states.

Lol what, Paul was the original Esoteric Christian; he was the first in the history of Christianity (inspired by Gnosticism and other Hellenic mystery cults) to ascribe divinity to Christ; the early Christian Jews had no notion of such a thing

Alright, well let's say that that's true, that the universe has a unique property of being that is uniquely you, when certain components all come together to make a machine like yourself. How then do you explain that you've been you throughout your entire life?

There's two issues here. Apparently, all of the atoms in your body are replaced periodically, alright, I assume your view doesn't have a problem with that due to the new ones making a copy of the old ones.

The other problem I see is that you have changed very much over the years, and especially since you were young. You're very much not the same machine all around, but you've been you the entire time. I'll even go a bit further, and say that maybe there's a range of states in which exist as yourself. The problem with that is that it makes it increasingly more likely, to the point of inevitability, that there exists another structure somewhere in the universe that works just like one of your states of being.

What do you think of that?

Paul was all over the place in terms of teachings and his teachings are the most warped by the Jews and their infiltrators today.

kek. no.


Have you read the Gospels?? His divinity is clearly spelled out by the Apostles. John is very esoteric.

Paul became an apostle some time after the 12, when Christians were already calling Jesus Lord and God.

Soul wasn't invented. It was only denied.

Atheists seem to take pride in their fear and darkness.

Paul was a Hellenistic Jew like Philo of Alexandria, he was not a Judean; there's nothing in rabbinic literature that makes way for a divine messiah

That the sons of God saw the daughters of men that they were fair; and they took them wives of all which they chose. (Genesis 6:2) There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown. (Genesis 6:4) Now there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before the LORD, and Satan came also among them. (Job 1:6) Again there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before the LORD, and Satan came also among them to present himself before the LORD. (Job 2:1)

John also used the term: "But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name…" (John 1:12) Behold, what manner of love the Father hath bestowed upon us, that we should be called the sons of God: therefore the world knoweth us not, because it knew him not. Behold, what manner of love the Father hath bestowed upon us, that we should be called the sons of God: therefore the world knoweth us not, because it knew him not. (1 John 3:1) and "Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is." (1 John 3:2)

Paul uses the term in an identical manner: For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God. (Romans 8:14) For the earnest expectation of the creature waiteth for the manifestation of the sons of God. (Romans 8:19)

So as Paul and John illustrate, one who is righteous becomes a "son of God."

The term "only begotten Son" is used in relation Jesus only by the writer of John: For the law was given by Moses, but grace and truth came by Jesus Christ. No man hath seen God at any time, the only begotten Son, which is in the bosom of the Father, he hath declared him. (John 1:17-18. Also John 3:16, 3:18, and 1 John 4:9)

The writer of John is believed to be a Greek convert and his lack of knowledge of Judaism and the Torah is as appalling as his hatred of Jews. (He uses "Jews" as a slur over 60 times in the Gospel of John alone.) First, the Law was given directly by God to Moses. Second, Moses saw God. Whomever wrote John is not quoting Jesus, he is giving us his own opinion. Third, Jesus is not the only "only begotten Son" of God: I will declare the decree: the LORD hath said unto me, Thou art my Son; this day have I begotten thee. (Psalms 2:7) Psalms is believed to be written by David.

When the writer of John does quote Jesus, "But now ye seek to kill me, a man that hath told you the truth, which I have heard of God: this did not Abraham." (John 8:40) And according to Paul's follower Luke, "Because he hath appointed a day, in the which he will judge the world in righteousness by that man whom he hath ordained; whereof he hath given assurance unto all men, in that he hath raised him from the dead." (Acts 17:31)

But John 8:40 is contradicted by John 5:18, "Therefore the Jews sought the more to kill him, because he not only had broken the sabbath, but said also that God was his Father, making himself equal with God." According to the New American Bible most scholars believe John had been altered and rewritten. That is the opinion of the writer of John, Jesus did not say it. The same story is in the other Gospels without that claim. Does that mean anyone that becomes a "son of God" becomes an equal to God?

No that's the christians.

Actually there is, Yeshua himself said so.

the bible wasn't written in english
it wasn't even written in greek

See, white guilt in action. Christianity has inlaid spiritual and physical sadomasochism. It's so very easily twisted into white guilt, especially when people believe that "we are all the same race" shit.

Well Holla Forums believes in magic.
Magic and souls sort of reinforce each other.
world created 5k years ago is faulty as heck. Noah reports are possibly older than that.
People are not equal. By their deeds, they get different treatment and different judgement. Only thing in common is tendency to be shitty.

5000 is the creation of adam, not the world

this is genetically supported by the fact that whites have the least variation in their genes, in other words, the least mutations, in other words, the least aging of the gene pool

Real Christians read the Bible and judge everything with it. The nominally religious were predicted and are to be decimated.

Praise the Ogdoad - Jesus, the Son of God.

anyone have the jewtube link to the Smith and Wesson Bible video channel

It was these two older white guys who went through the bible verse by verse telling it like it is.

If this is the message you're getting from his videos then you'll make a nice nominee in the Darwin awards.

He knows exactly what he's doing and is qualified to judge what will or will not kill him