Mozilla Joins George Soros’s Efforts In Launching A Strike Against “Fake News”

Mozilla Joins George Soros’s Efforts In Launching A Strike Against “Fake News”

Someone got an alternative browser?

blog.mozilla.org/blog/2017/08/08/mozilla-information-trust-initiative-building-movement-fight-misinformation-online/

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web.archive.org/web/20170811120339/https://blog.mozilla.org/blog/2017/08/08/mozilla-information-trust-initiative-building-movement-fight-misinformation-online/
github.com/pyllyukko/user.js
github.com/ghacksuserjs/ghacks-user.js
sourceforge.net/projects/lawlietfox/
sourceforge.net/projects/pcxfirefox/
palemoon.org/releasenotes.shtml
software.opensuse.org/download.html?project=home:stevenpusser&package=palemoon
addonconverter.fotokraina.com/
blog.mozilla.org/blog/2017/08/08/mozilla-information-trust-initiative-building-movement-fight-misinformation-online/
lynx.invisible-island.net/release/
netsurf-browser.org/
gcc.gnu.org/onlinedocs/gcc/Instrumentation-Options.html
betanews.com/2017/08/15/microsoft-satya-nadellas-leaked-email-charlottesville/
wiki.mozilla.org/Quantum
youtube.com/watch?v=an5abNFba4Q
getpocket.com/publisher/
ungoogled-software.github.io/ungoogled-chromium-binaries/
twitter.com/NSFWRedditGif

And no one was suprised. Palemoon or icefox if you haven't jumped ship yet.

Who still uses default Firefox? kill you're slef

So uh. Cyberfox, palemoon, or waterfox?

You mean GNU IceCat?

What about older Firefox ESR? Serious question.
Stay away from HTML5 and JS garbage sites.

Modern WebDev faggots need to be reminded that web=text+images+downloads first and foremost.

Icecat must to port all security fixes from firefox manually. This is because it was too early of a fork. I don't consider it secure. I think waterfox is just a rebranding of firefox. I haven't heard much about cyberfox which means it must be autistically obscure.

Pale moon is solid.

god damn these fucking kikes targeting our FOSS

Think again. It's firefox with a lot of the botnet removed or disabled. There's basically no reason not to use it over default Firefox anyway.

Think again and explore the mailing lists icecat integrates security fixes that weren't even added to the Mozillian botnet.

I get the JS crap, but HTML5?

Idiots think html5 is the same as web 2.0 and shitty design practices.

this is like a parody how is this real life

I literally have to stop using it right now. this is the fucking last straw.

Cyberfox is ceasing operations, they are only doing critical updates right now

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Hahaha holy fuck.

Image version in case you don't want to give them clicks

web.archive.org/web/20170811120339/https://blog.mozilla.org/blog/2017/08/08/mozilla-information-trust-initiative-building-movement-fight-misinformation-online/

Does that mean porn data too ?

For anybody still using Firefox here's something to remove the pozz and phoning home shit

github.com/pyllyukko/user.js
github.com/ghacksuserjs/ghacks-user.js

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you can use it on forks too, there's a lot of stuff to customize

It shits itself on most of web 2.0 sites and lacks some of the codecs used in .mp4 vids. Boycott .mp4 posters. Hide .mp4 threads.

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tweet this image at mozilla

Why were you using it until now, really?
You deserve all the shit in the world, as it was known for years now that Mozilla went full SJW/Leftist/Jews.

Has anybody tried these?

sourceforge.net/projects/lawlietfox/
sourceforge.net/projects/pcxfirefox/

They are around for quite a while but are made by chinks though. I remember them being really snappy back on Firefox 2x and 3x, idk how they perform right now.

Normalfag browsers
Opera

Yandex Browser

And that's it.

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Which is better: Opera or Pale Moon?

Chinks=Russians=CIA, you fucking faggot.

Depends. Opera is the best browser you can use on the market, but it's somewhat proprietary and uses Chromium/Blink. Pale Moon is a good firefox alternative, but I find it slow and laggy. and it's not gonna be here for the long haul. If someone buys Pale Moon, like the FSF, sure, but as of right now it's kind of a mess.

The CIA can knock at my door, can arrest me, can spy on me.
The Chinese and the Russians are allowed to do that? Are they even able?

It's the bigger picture, user. I'm sure the CIA has operatives that can get that information from the Chinks and Russians, or they would be willing to hand it over for a price. The point is to make sure that almost nobody (totally anonymous is a myth) can know what you do on the internet.

Why in the world would the CIA care about you user?

The west coast can't be nuked soon enough

I like how they mention algorithmic filter bubbles but they don't even point out that most of the "fake news" they call out go viral because of them. Facebook dindu nuffin, right? What's "free marketplace of ideas"?
But noo, SJWs MUST have their social media.
And you just KNOW they will use this shit to attack non-MSM websites.

Big data suggests they are since the line between corporate surveillance and government agencies get's blurrier every day, regardless of which country.

Yeah I'm not convinced since this reasoning is basically null and defers to whichever one you actually like better. Seems like foss forks or light weight browsers would be the reasonable route to go instead of Russian forks which already have a history of being actual botnets.

The Chinese don't care about your privacy though, and would eagerly sell American pig user data to American pig capitalist firms.

I've been using PM for years now. Never going back to firecuck.

So, the Chinese can knock my door and arrest me? Okay.

Literally defending a SJW-full company, active in censorship.

You're going to need to actually point out where I was defending mozilla. Just because I don't want to use your shit tier Opera fork doesn't mean I support Mozilla. As for the CIA the point is your data is shared with virtually everyone so you may as well assume the CIA has access to it if Russian surveillance engines do. I know it's most likely irrelevant but the point is to not willingly give them leverage for no discernible reason

It's okay, he's gonna sell them out to the fascists as he always does.

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Explain?

Hey guys, anyone knows or uses Midori? It's open source.

Also, is there any app to save my bookmarks?

Are you fucking retarded?

That's not an answer friend.

/thread

enjoy your exploits

You mean exploits that are basically null at this point because websites have been updated to keep track with exploits for the newer version of firefucks, which, coincidentally has way worse security problems because of internal compromises for phoning home and other retarded features a web browser doesn't need?

I went looking for info and found a Gamergate dig. >>>/gamergatehq/328097

Mozilla sent a Model View Culture SJW to the United Nations and she is working with the New York Times and Washington Post on a project to "make comments safer".

Trusting chinese, search for the metal user cap
Since when spying from any side is good ?
Source code please
Source code please

implying that they won't sniff and sell the shit there's
Implying I can modify or see the list or that it isn't trumped at some point.
It's botnet

It's botnet

not libre
I'm sure that you''re happy that you can still right on image boards atm.
You have no idea of what you are talking about.

Use icecat.

Next time before posting use your brain.

PM isn't Firefox, and hasn't been for over 10 years friendo. And Moonchild stays on top of CVEs providing security and other patches frequently. Any current threats are addressed promptly and explicity.
palemoon.org/releasenotes.shtml

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I'll take "some weeb" over jewish cultural marxist SJWs any day.

ah, yes, as opposed to the tireless, infallible coding-savants who get HIRED, OFFICIALLY, by COMPANIES.
not just some person, some person who A COMPANY saw fit to HIRE(!!!)

Furry Moon Man has been running this project successfully for over a decade, has dozens of active development supporters, explicitly refuses to tow the party line (at some cost), and now has the fourth or fifth most popular web browser going.

Show us all you're great code user.

i have some issue with palemoon, i use Seamonkey.

Where is the soros connection?

Why use a Gecko browser in which half the addons are broken and need to be forked and rewritten?

I put on nightmare vision, but everything looks the same.

like poetry

Most of them use fucking Windows. They give a shit up until the point to where they have to put in effort to fix a problem.

kek

Palemoon also crashes a lot for me.

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YOU TAKE THAT BACK!

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make me!

>not posting constant reminders that the holocaust never happened to combat (((their))) subversion

Just fuck my shit up.
For anyone else wanting Palemoon on a Debian based distro:
software.opensuse.org/download.html?project=home:stevenpusser&package=palemoon

Typical.

How do you control your java stuff? I'm used to noscript and don't know what I would do without it.

I run through a vpn to tor using the tor browser. I like the setup so far.

I have never done it but I think you can switch the proxy setting in the tor browser not to run through the tor circuit if you don't want to use the tor circuit.

If you don't like the tor network why not just use the tor browser with the circuit off? Is it still pozzed?

So is there any outcry from the community?

Who was the fucktard that greenlit this shit in Mozzilla?

Is Vivaldi ok?

cfox is dead. waterfox is meme.

icecat is NOT audited (go compare palemoon's about:config and icecat's) (also try to remove all icons on your menu/hamburger button to see SJW easter egg)

I use noscript, https everywhere, internet download manager, and https finder. I really wanna switch to another fork, but I also want to keep these addons. Is there a fork that "just works" so I can install these as I install them on firefox?

Where do you think we are?

Off yourself, Mao.

literal botnet

Just use GNU/Icecat or Palememe.

Haw do I batch download memes with Palemoon?

SeaMonkey is very compatible with extensions, or forcibly so: addonconverter.fotokraina.com/

How fast they usually merge security fixes from upstream?

dta!
I think it's on their website. You might also like tree style tabs + color my tab addon

IMO palemoon is a lot faster when it comes to patches since the devs are really very active. Idg2s but there was an incident before and palemoon devs patched a terrible security flaw in crypto etc.etc.

blog.mozilla.org/blog/2017/08/08/mozilla-information-trust-initiative-building-movement-fight-misinformation-online/

remember when Mozilla was about making a browser?

So you're saying that Mozilla is not about making a browser despite the fact that there will be future versions of the Mozilla browser?

Maybe I'm retarded but it sounds like a whole lot of nothing. Don't get me wrong, I understand what the implications of this COULD mean which is scary, but they seem to be focused on shitty add ons and tools that normies wouldn't be interested in.

Is there something I'm missing here?

Wait Holla Forums hated palememe last year. Why the change of heart?

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How are they going to go about doing this?

tbh I've been on firefox 28 for ages because newer versions changed the UI and all the so-called fixes didn't change it back and I don't want a different UI.

enjoy your security holes then.
you are most likely already a part of botnet.

Ironic weebs who ironically shitpost about "waifus" despite having no feelings towards anime characters should be gassed.

Thanks a lot man, I'll look into seamonkey.

Does seamonkey have a bookmarks hotkey like firefox or an addon to it?

o im laffin

I really need a bazzacuda replacement.

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Chinese botnet is not a good thing, but what are they going to do to you? Why does it matter as much as the US or UK or German government spying on you?

The chinks will never bust your door open for watching wrongthink on youtube. Plus, opera works, and it works very well. It's very fast and customizable.

If you can name a very fast browser that works very well and can be customized and is not spyware/botnet at all, please do so, so we can all start using it. Unfortunately such a browser does not exist.

Where is a link for a Linux browser that isn't Mozilla

lynx.invisible-island.net/release/

Move to seamonkey.

That's why we try to stop White Genocide.
Because we hate you. Faggot.

You're an idiot. IceCat is literally a few patches and cleanuo scripts on top of firefox.

Slackware ships ESR by default so I use it as my backup browser for JS-heavy shit and such. It's about as fine as mainline firefox has ever been.

netsurf-browser.org/

I've been compiling my own Pale Moon releases for a while now, but I'm slightly paranoid for exploits from javascript-riddled sites that umatrix doesn't block. I know I can wrap it in firejail, but since I'm compiling it from source anyway, I might as well put it to use. Can I compile it with some kind of security-related flags? I know I can enable some stack checks, but if I compile it as position-independent, do I have to enable anything in the kernel for it to be randomized properly in the address space, or does that happen with all Position Independent Executables automatically?

Oh god, here we go again with these insufferable idiots...

Nice.

The kernel needs to have ASLR enabled. Look it up.

Sheeeeeeeeeit.

You can control it with the sysctl tool or through the /proc file system or set it permanently in sysctl.conf

randomize_va_space:This option can be used to select the type of process addressspace randomization that is used in the system, for architecturesthat support this feature.0 - Turn the process address space randomization off. This is the default for architectures that do not support this feature anyways, and kernels that are booted with the "norandmaps" parameter.1 - Make the addresses of mmap base, stack and VDSO page randomized. This, among other things, implies that shared libraries will be loaded to random addresses. Also for PIE-linked binaries, the location of code start is randomized. This is the default if the CONFIG_COMPAT_BRK option is enabled.2 - Additionally enable heap randomization. This is the default if CONFIG_COMPAT_BRK is disabled. There are a few legacy applications out there (such as some ancient versions of libc.so.5 from 1996) that assume that brk area starts just after the end of the code+bss. These applications break when start of the brk area is randomized. There are however no known non-legacy applications that would be broken this way, so for most systems it is safe to choose full randomization. Systems with ancient and/or broken binaries should be configured with CONFIG_COMPAT_BRK enabled, which excludes the heap from process address space randomization.

In addition to that, your compiler can probably add extra instrumentation to the binaries for memory safety.

For GCC have a look at these options:
gcc.gnu.org/onlinedocs/gcc/Instrumentation-Options.html

Using firejail is a reasonable choice when running a security liability like the browser is.

was ment for

So basically since sysctl kernel.randomize_va_space returns 2 I needen't do anything besides going full-retard on compile-time options.
Since all shared libraries are compiled -fPIC, I don't need to do anything there to harden, right? Unless I want stack protection, of course.
I guess it would be smartest to compile Pale Moon without all those --with-system flags to harden as many libraries as feasible without going full gentoo.

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Why the fuck wont pale moon load userstyles.org

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this hurts to read

good thing I use a fork

It's been shit for multiple reasons since the election started and imkikefy appeared, but you could say the same for Holla Forums.

Why haven't you switched to using emacs as your web browser, user?

All I could get from the article was that they are going to work on their meme projects and a bunch of empty PR statements. How is this directly related to the browser? How will it affect it? I'm not going to switch to some shitty fork just because their political views triggered somebody, especially since the next firefox versions will have improved performance.

Is claws still recommended as replacement for thunderbird? Also is it still recommended to use if you need to use gmail for work/school instead of browser?

Recommended by who?

Yea, use Claws Mail. It's lighter than a lot of other shitty GUI mail clients.

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Based betanews fagioli poster, I'm so happy this Holla Forums meme caught on.

So your values began in 1965? Got it.

I've already switched to Waterfox. I don't know where I'll go when I can't use my favorite extensions anymore. I refuse to use any browser without Self Destructing Cookies, uBlock Origin, HTTPS Everywhere, NoScript, and h264ify. Cuntzilla wants to mark them all as legacy and make me change settings to use them and will eventually make them incompatible. I'm extremely angry. Angry enough that I'm going just not use a web browser at all on my personal machines and I'll switch to Opera or something on my work laptop. I've fucking had it with this nu-web bullshit. The SJW cunts that ruined the only good browser deserve death by a thousand cuts.

A few years ago some people on Holla Forums recommended that you use a mail client with gmail as email is pretty much not secure anyway and that at least it doesn't generate cookies that track your shit via browser, that basically all the tracking by the email provider would be contained to the email only.

You could just go full autismo and use surf with hosts blocking while dropping script in cron that nukes cookies and cache every five minutes. Nice thing about webkit is that it stores cookies in easily readable text file.

Again, a browser should not be "educating" users on what it considers valid sources of news or not. You know damn well this isn't to target shitty click bait sites, it's to target problematic news platforms.

Again, the main idea is to develop interactive supports. Firefox is mentioned in the article only once, and not to declare it one of the supports in question (I'm not saying that it definitely won't happen).

i have contracted cancer from this sentence

Why do you care if Mozilla are educating people or not? Do you believe that this initiative will somehow detract from the development of Firefox?

How exactly do you picture this so called education? What do you think it will teach people?

There's been such a project in the French educational system, and it looks okay. They actually teach children how to spot fake news by identifying blatant photo editing, how to use Google and Tineye to find the earliest websites talking about something as well as some common logical fallacies.

Just download the nightly build and see it for yourself. It's fast as fuck and uses half the resources stable firefox uses.

It's just some empty platitudes and meme projects, the browser isn't affected by this you dumbasses, they are doing it for the money, not because they are ideologically invested in it.

Mozilla is not the browser, it's the organization developing it you imbecile.

That sounds alright.

You're fooling yourself if you think this won't affect the browser somehow, sooner or later.

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You're fooling yourself if you think this will affect the browser somehow in the future. There is no connection between an education campaign and the development of Firefox.

Right, because companies never let their political views affect their products or platforms.

Time will tell, right now this thread and you are just spreading FUD.

It's quite obvious that a company whose front line product is a tool to access information is going to use that tool to abuse users access to information, especially when the entirety of this effort is the desire of private donors in the first place. Or do you not understand the purpose of large donations from private individuals?

I'm sorry but I can't believe that Firefox is going to "abuse users access to information". This hasn't happened before and it won't happen in the future.

how about checking the fucking website?

Oh please. The only thing that determines Firefox's roadmap is whatever Chrome did 2 years ago.

Actually it will quite soon, with ff57 to be exact. They call it activity stream.

I don't think you know what activity stream is. It's Firefox's feed of recommendations based on your browsing history. This means you are free to ignore it every time. This means that Firefox can't abuse your access to information if you're free to ignore their algorithmic recommendation.

What visual theme is that? If I can drop Firefox and satisfy my autism with something that looks like it would work with windows 98 I'd be quite happy.

So I installed Palemoon + uMatrix and https everywhere. Anything else I might want?

Did a nigger write that?

Well it doesn't look like they are gonna filter or block anything, from what I can read in that article. It just looks like more activist bullshit.
But I might have missed something, are they gonna filter/block, and are they gonna be transparent about it?

The mozilla shills are at it again. They might not be filtering yet, but it always starts with a warning. Recall the boiling frog story?

You do realise that the "slow boiling frog" is a meme, right? How the fuck can you call others shill in a thread that advices to use proprietary software over open source?

I've seen posters at my local library telling people how to detect fake news.

The problem is that nobody has the time and energy to do in-depth research on every news story, which has now become mandatory because virtually all news stories are fake.

spoke like a true SJW. i for a moment had forgotten that depictions of the rainbow are anathema under alt-right sharia

lel

WHAT THE FUCK DID THEY MEAN BY THIS?
Links is pretty good, it can browse 99% of news sites, and is only thousands of lines of code including the engine, instead of millions, and doesn't take 10 minutes to press a button or start up.

he identifies as a frog

let's have some corrupt corporation decide for us which news is legitimate
what could ever go wrong

You are fake news.

Not even sure what the point of this was. Unprecedented things are officially impossible now I guess. Glad to know.

that guy is like a super villain from a James Bond movie.

What an asinine thing to say, are you a lolbertian? People are also "free" to ignore their facebook feed, yet it would be ridiculous at best or deceptive to say that facebook cant abuse its position, because the reality is that hundreds of millions do not ignore it.

So you're saying that when Firefox makes a recommendation, this recommendation is actually abusing the user's access to information? It's a recommendation that you can choose, it's not mandatory script for you to follow every time you open up Firefox. Do you believe that a recommendation is a form of coercion?

I'm not sure if it's coercion, but recommending propaganda is definitely immoral.

Nice straw man, I said no such thing.

Mozilla is using its powerful position between the www and the user to promote websites and with that viewpoints in exchange for money (or something else), at the expense of those that are not "recommended". In this way they are not providing a neutral tool to the user, but elevating themselves to "curators" who manipulate the flow of information by definition, primarily to serve themselves.

It's not a straw man if the topic was about Firefox's way to abuse the user's access to information. Somebody asserted that Mozilla intends to use Firefox activity stream to make this happen. You have demonstrated ignorance about what is activity stream is. Let's pretend that activity stream does work the way you assert it does: it promotes websites with certain viewpoints in exchange for money. I've asserted that it's trivial to reject and ignore such recommendations and therefore, this feature cannot abuse the user's access to information. In actuality, Firefox activity stream won't be designed to work in that way so therefore you have created a strawman argument and FUD about a future Firefox feature.

What I would consider Firefox's "abuse in the way it provides access to information" is if Firefox edited a web page to show a different message than what originated on the web server. This is the only way that I could agree that "Firefox abuses user information access". When Firefox makes a recommendation, that's not the same as abusing the user.

The thing about all propaganda and morality is that it is inherently subjective. Something that you consider propaganda can easily be another person's truth.

no u
Our MVP Team is also responsible for A/B Testing and for building our experimentation and data processing infrastructure. One interesting experiment we have been working on for the past while is integrating Pocket into Activity Stream. This takes the form of the Top Stories section in Activity Streamand shows up right after the Search and Top Sites sections. Many kudos to Christian Sadilek over on the BizDev Team for the great work on landing this feature and hacking on the Activity Stream code base
https:[email protected]/* */
getpocket.com/publisher/

It does, see above.

No, it is not the users duty to actively evade propaganda from an ostensibly neutral tool, Mozilla is overstepping its boundaries. Your insistence on the hypothetical shows that you know very well that in reality "many" will not ignore it, otherwise publishers would not pay to be put on there.

Was I right to stop updating at version 28?

i2p
a jail, chroot
opennic

Tell me about Pocket and how this related to activity stream. I understand that Pocket is an Internet service to maintain and sychronize bookmarks according to your registered account. If you have no Pocket account, how can it affect you?

Why is ignoring activity stream the same as evading propaganda? For me, ignoring activity stream is the same as ignoring news that I don't care to see. I see some words then I don't take the time to follow it. Do you consider not following a link the same as evasion?

Brave is actually pretty decent
t. part time brave user

Had to go with waterfox, i need my firefox addons. This is a fucking disaster though. Having a fucking Soros on your back is some damn horror.

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This sentence means

This is why other sources are important, and when the time comes that you need to fact check those as well it's all over. At that point everything is fake.

Given what has been happening lately, how long until firefox itself stops you from going to Daily Stormer? Even if Anglin is a ricemixing worthless person?

Please don't create strawman arguments..

why aren't you using Brave?

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Because palemoon

so courageous

fify

im using lightning browser in my phone, how fucked ami?

can everyone stop being fucking retards
ungoogled-software.github.io/ungoogled-chromium-binaries/

fucking use this you dumb cunts

What about browsers for phone, user?!

No strawman necessary. That is the logical conclusion of a culture in which all white people are raised to see themselves as evil or deficient in some way while at the same time taught to praise everything that is not white. That sentence reinforces this entire power structure.

Palemoon supports firefox added you dunce

It's a strawman because you're jumping to conclusions for something that was never implied or connected then you're applying this argument as their argument.

It is implied from the language that is used. Why do you think there are so many white people, white girls especially, who think what they are is boring and have a low self-esteem because they are boring and pale? It's disgusting.