Patriotism vs. Racialism

Patriotism vs. Racialism
Which has more value to Western Civilization?


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Dr. William Pierce: The Value of Talk

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Stop watching celebrities talk about Trump and get in here faggots

95% of neo-Holla Forums can't relate to what Pierce talks about. You vote "R", you're a based nigger. You give them a tax cut, you can nut inside their daughter.

Open a beer and watch the game.

I know… It's like watching the 1960s happen and all the redpilled whites are busy sticking up for Archy bunker instead of fighting back

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Order of loyalty for me goes like so:

Family > Nation of origin > Race > Nation of Origin (non-native) > Foreigners

The fuck are you talking about? That's /r/the_donald, not Holla Forums.

Take a long, hard look through the majority of threads here. Pay close attention to the language that gets used, even if it isn't super obvious to you at first.

Yeah okay

I would say that's mainly due to cuckchan going down hill. As long as people continue to call out their autism, and mods ban the heavy shitposters, they will integrate fine.

Racialism by far
Patriotism is dying by leaps and bounds, who would even consider dying for the US in its current state beyond the best of goyim

This will be revealed when Trump simply buys a few years of time, but doesn't achieve anything lasting

There has been repeted attempts and there will continue to be attempts to steer this board towards civic nationalism and easy to control opposition. The Trump campaign is how they are getting their foot in the door.

True patriotism is racialism.

Honestly, I don't think a single user with an IQ over nigger believes that Trump is the next Hitler or whateverthefuck. But he is still by far the best thing to happen to American politics in a very long fucking time.

Is there even a difference any more?

I'm not really convinced of that at all, but every time you start down that path it's an invitation to link/gore spam.

Hopefull the wall will help. Considering how armed and motivated the South America/Mexican drug cartels and people are

I'd buy that seeing as his supports will bad mouth Hitler the second they find out you aren't voting Trump

If the mods even let the thread stay up that long

Patriotism leads to exceptionalism which leads to ignoring all the major cracks in the wall simply because it's your wall. Racialism is the commonsense application of biology onto humans, which in this day and age shouldn't even be an ism but commonsense. Thanks jews.

trying to unleash the salt I see.

Nationalism you dummy. Or Tribalism if you want. All of it extends from the FAMILY, with the tribe/nation being the extended family. Each of you would fight for your family, right? Same logic applies to the greater community and to the nation itself. That's how it's done right.

The wall is almost irrelevant. I'm not saying it's useless – there are definite criminals crossing the border by land. Most of them just drive right over, though. I think there are something like 2 million border crossings every single day. They just drive their fucking Toyota right through the checkpoint.

Unless you live in bumfuck Idaho or Maine, just go take a drive around to local schools when they are letting out and take a good look at the kids. It's catastrophic.

TRS shills please go back to your literally nigger loving homosexual good goy circle jerk…

I've watched/listened to more Dr. Pierce than most of the people here, going on several years now. Also other figures who were up and about around the same time (Revilo P. Oliver for example). I don't need some faggy OP telling me what I can and can't post.

Even if you deported all the illegals, it wouldn't change the big picture situation of whites moving into minority status
don't get me wrong, they all need to go, but illegals are merely a small tip of the iceberg, I have significant doubts the US will survive to 2020

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What I suspect will happen in the near future is balkanization, which then leads to RWDS disappearing certain groups of people.

Oops. Forgot something.

not enough real cultural differences anymore for that to effectively take place, socialmatters had a pretty top tier write up on why it's unlikely

socialmatter.net/2016/04/22/the-u-s-a-cannot-balkanize/

Low level, death squads I absolutely see happening along with a huge decline in public safety as cops stop enforcing the law/take money for only guarding certain communities
I've posted this before, but the Lebanese Civil War/Occupation is a top tier example of what will likely happen

That deliberate diffusion is concentrated through the whole country. I don't get why he doesn't think it's possible for certain parts to go solo sometime down the line. If it gets to South Africa levels it'll be way too late.

What happened in Lebanon exactly ?

It's never going to happen. The time for White America to do that was honestly decades ago at this point. It's an open question as to whether Whites would even have the capability to do it at this point [I highly, highly doubt it – if the border could be sealed, they'd do it].

When it gets to "South African" levels [which is pretty much already is] it gets there because the numbers are so heavily reversed that one side cannot competitively fight back.

USA can't be balkanized. There is no geographical split.

The split is cities vs rural

Tell that to the Roman empires throughout history.

What connects you to another American on the street?
Honestly what connects one American to another other than consumer culture?
It's not religion, race, ideals, or even langauge so what is it?

Maybe it won't be balkanization but there is going to be major fractionalization

you must be new here from cuckchan

Uhh…yeah? This isn't 4cucks, there's nigger and jew hate threads on here daily. I don't know where you've been hanging out.

They won't do it on their own. They lost the culture war in the 60's and the fight was dragged out of the white population. South African levels wont change anything given them as a prime example in the first place. Whites are inherently the most delusional race on the planet and if you think our people aren't stupid enough to go into extinction then you are underestimating their stupidity and brainwash.

We're trying to change the culture at the same time the libtards are eating themselves, as we always knew they would, and while a economic collapse is becoming more and more inevitable. Without 2008 I don't think we'd be where we are today. This is the moment and we have to capitalize on it.

The masses of whites do not, and will NEVER have the mentality of removing all the non-whites. It would take 20 years to grow a new generation with the understanding that there is a war going on and it's the only solution. Good thing we don't need the brainwashed masses to have the fight in them. We just need them to stop fucking swinging at us.

The roman empire collapsed into a number of smaller kingdom-like states that grew out of necessity.

That's what most people predict for USA's collapse and it's entirely different than balkanization.

Delusional, yes. Stupid, no. Our people wouldn't be brainwashed like this if we were stupid. Brainwashing isn't something that you need to do to control stupid populations, it's what they do to dumb down populations who would otherwise have intelligence to be a threat.

Maybe "stupid" was a little harsh, but with each generation since the boomers the indoctrination seeps in that much deeper. Now we have entire populations that are beyond useful idiots at this point.

I told you the pedo goons would come with their one liners and baiting

See:

Not civic Nationalism thread because you didn't watch the video pedo goon

That image macro is almost more watermarks then text

I sometimes even hope that Clinton wins, let's in as many spics as possible, and the hundreds of thousands of shitskins from the ME and Africa just so these horribly retarded white Americans will have these aliens in their sights, their nostrils, and all their senses surrounded by this alien invasion to wake them the hell up fro their fantasies.

SWEDEN IS PROOF THAT THIS DOES NOT HAPPEN. ACCELERATIONISTS ARE ALWAYS WRONG.

No, I don't even mean liberals, and I wouldn't compare Swedes with Americans. I mean your average joe white American, who is more right than left, but overall apathetic because he is still well fed and entertained. When he sees and smells kababs in his streets, I think he will begin to start to care. It's too foreign to him.

Oh, THEY’LL get right behind the deportations once they start seeing crime rates go down, even if they live in the suburbs and the crimes were mostly in the cities.

Hope so. Just imagine the field day the media will have of videos of children being deported. It could really spark massive violent riots.

Trump will just have a press conference in which he states, “What, do you want me to deport JUST their parents? Or JUST the children? These are the laws, folks. The American people already know that–I’m telling YOU, the press. These are our laws. We’re deporting entire families. The families stay together, okay? No one’s getting split up. They had no right to be here in the first place, and they’re sticking together on their way out.”

You have his tone down almost perfectly.

As a finn I never understood patriotism without racialism. Nation and race are ineseperable for any right winger, this is just a fact of life for even basic bitch conservatives here. It makes for a completely different political climate than in the state to be sure.


Seriously though it always amazes me and my countrymen when we visit the states how everyone is so proud of being american. A friend who just came home from there said "They were all so mixed, black, mexican, asian like no white people there… but they were all so proud of being american??" None of us euros understood this. Our liberals just hate patriotism and nationalism because they are inherently racial over here, no proposition nation bullshit. Its either Marxist superstate EU force marching us to Africa or white nationalism.

Thats another word that doesnt exist in Europe and Ive learned from burgers is White nationalism. Here it doesnt make sense because its redundant. Like saying scheming jews, just say jews everyone knows they scheme. In the same way naitonalism is inherently white, there is no other version here, and how could there? These are our homelands and we dont need to compromise with anyone over even one inch of clay. Burgers will never know the feel.

Inb4 a D&C shill pretends to be a butthurt burger and make this a Europoor vs Burger thread

Im saying right-wingers face very different problems on each side of the Atlantic and there is no "one solution" that works for both Europe and america.

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yeah

The White Middle Class

If that cunt is elected, we will have to wait until the middle class falls

Seems like racialism has more value in terms of preserving (races) and promoting unity. Patriotism can be re-defined and adopted by other groups. You see the latter in virtually all first world western countries, especially places like the US, UK, Canada, etc. In these countries "patriotism" is now trying to be defined as an all-inclusive society that lets anyone in as long as they're not known criminals (and certain countries such as Sweden, Germany, [and the US with illegal Mexicans] and others simply don't even seem to care about that anymore). With racialism, you can at least have a very defined ideal that is not limited to borders and can be flexible in the sense that it should promote the unity under one banner across the world wherever one may be. Part of what is killing off white people for instance is the existence of different nations spiteful (I don't mean malicious) ideas towards each other. For instance we see Canadian liberalism rise as a snooty "Fuck you, hicks" mentality towards the US; we see Scotland do a similar thing with the UK; we see other EU countries put pressure on nations like Hungary and Poland to drag them down, too (although that one is a little more complex and is ultimately more to do with a globalist agenda more than it has to do with outright contempt for these two nations, I think.)

I legitemtly envy you europoors, the fate of the US was sealed in the 80's when no one revolted then. Now we are doomed to be brazil. I want out but I dont know how.

reported for another shill thread.

US is a white country. Kill yourself.

Did you even read the thread?

Sup, Finland. Not sure if you'll see this post, but your story sounds 100% what it's like here in Canada. It wouldn't surprise me one bit if those exchange students that you talked to were from Vancouver; they essentially live in Asia to begin with. The funny thing is that these same people who rolled their eyes when you said that the African would never be Finnish, would never consider THEMSELVES Finnish either, and in their minds, it's okay to be called a non-Finn since (I assume) they're white, whereas it's racist to call a brown person a non-Finn. And you're right, he isn't a Finn just as I'm not magically a woman if I start using the women's restroom every time that I go out to eat at a restaurant.

The sentiments by many -particularly younger people- here is that Canada (and it seems to be that way in many other western nations) has no culture - culture defined by them is simply watered down to "We didn't make spicy food like the Indians", "We didn't make spicy food like the Mexicans", "We didn't make food like the Japanese… omgggg I love sushi omg". Don't get me wrong, Canadian culture is hardly the peak of humanity but to say that it doesn't exist simply because one is used to it or doesn't care for elements of it is foolish. One could refer to our pacifism which we're very much known for the world over; these same students are likely all aboard the "Oh my God, those retarded Americans and their guns" train.

Like genocide, you don't have to literally go out and murder people to destroy culture; it's easier to accomplish and harder to stop if you redefine the meaning of the word "culture". Get the young people to buy into it and then drive in the hammer by importing people from other cultures, and the native population will be less likely to resist it, and more inclined to demand more of it - then they are bred out and the history books will read "They literally asked for it."

You fucking faggot MOD. You bumlocked William Pierce