Redpill an intellectually honest person on race in 4 easy steps

"because they're not evil"

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Sure, OP. And maybe after that we can organize some unicorns and chupacabras into a White National Army.

No, I'm not CTR. I just don't think I've met any intellectually honest people in a long, long time. I'm not even sure I am, I'm sorry to say. How does one know?

Why are 1st gen Asians and Indians who've arrived on the boat 22 years ago are less ____ than African Americans?

Native Americans are given a free ride to the best schools in the nation,yet they choose to squander their opportunities

Hey watch this Video.
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Do you really want these people to flow into the country unrestricted?

The only reason why they don't behave this way in the US is because they know it would be game over due to public reaction.

Some how Indians have 8 years of Experience with an Operating system that's 1 years old on their resume.

Asians are great people!
It's strange that the Media does not bring up the fact of what the Blacks did to the Koreans during the LA riots.

Intellectually honest?
If your job depends on you not understanding a problem, you're not going to understand a problem

I'm not sure what would be the condensed instant-checkmate form of this, but most areas probably experienced conflict in the form of conquest & territorial expansion. The guys you're displacing just recently defeated another tribe, skinned them alive, and pressed the women & children into slavery.

Darwinism is philosophical, not scientific.

A lot of people will say they're going to be intellectually honest and desire to come across as such but will seek out the maximal level of dishonesty to employ without being blatant. You have to be ready to point out when they start to slide on that agreement.

I've framed it as Europeans engaging in more large-scale violence and Africans engaging in more small-scale violence. And when asked why, leading it into social organization.

Those exist outside of Holla Forums?

Or you could just redpill intellectually dishonest people with this one simple trick:

Just point out the usual bullshit on the subject: there are people out there that are desperate for everyone to love each other, because they're deeply kind and this should be noted, but to reach this goal, they attempt to tackle any discernible difference between humans until they come to the conclusion that we're all the same, regardless of whether it makes sense of not, including opposing science which fully acknowledges those differences. Because science fundamentally rests on observation, and you only need to open your eyes to notice more than a couple differences, whether between whites and niggers, or even among whites themselves, to which they'll generally answer, we need to look beyond our differences, diversity is a strength. But what kind of diversity is it? Is it racial diversity? What other characteristic could vary between individuals if it isn't their race, deeply entranched in their genes? And then how does mixing together solve the problem? It creates more diversity at first, until it slowly leads it to the lowest common denominator and kills all former diversity.
There you have it: the two can't coexist, and at one point they'll have to choose which one is right and which one is wrong.

I travelled a lot myself, and I have no shortage of stories about subhumans being subhumans. Because you can only really see it all when you've seen how other people live in their own countries, when you observe all the differences. Generally the conclusion is those people are quite happy in their own countries, and even spending a week in the middle of Africa is always an overall very positive experience.
But still, they're different, and you couldn't live there. You don't share the same values, the same education, and while they may look past those differences if you're just a tourist, you'll have to adhere to theirs if you plan on staying longer, and there's no changing them. You're not the same race as them either, and it's worth noting that racialism is the norm everywhere outside of white countries: it decides who they vote for, what businesses they go to, who they marry, and who they enslave, because slavery still exists in Africa, middle east, and southeast Asia.
Sometimes you'll run into some leftist humanitarian aid worker, who will have plenty stories and say Africa is a great place. It's even easier with them, you just need to ask them why you have to come to help because they can't help themselves, why they were forbidden to go outside at night and slept in a heavily guarded place, to protect them from the very people they thought were nice during the day. Because they really know better than anyone those people are dangerous, you just need to remind them of the things they chose to forget.
Funny how those people are happy in their countries but unhappy in ours, eh? Because all they can do is create their own districts where everyone is of THEIR race, speaks THEIR language, and uphold THEIR traditions. The only environment in which they're happy outside of their country is one that replicates their country. It explains why they always have a different stance towards white countries, because it's not really "theirs", it's like a second home to them and not really important, and they don't understand why whites are so defensive of their homes because they don't know how it feels to have only one.

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I used to think of myself as an intellectually honest person but I no longer think that of myself.

The best thing you can do when trying to convince somebody of anything, whether that be red-pilling them or trying to sell them a vacuum cleaner, is to be nice.

Do not ever insult them. Once you do, you lose. You have to go slow. For anybody to admit they're wrong and change their mind is extremely difficult and you have to make it for them as nice a process as you can.

Also don't gloat about being factual and rational, that will just make you seem like an arrogant asshole. Even if you know your arguments are facts, present them as "I think, I believe, I am convinced that, It makes sense that…" etc.

That's an interesting question. Maybe those people could change when they live in white countries? Maybe they could get a new culture, learn a new education and values, a new language… until they become exactly like locals? Maybe a human being is defined by memes' more than genes? Well they'd have to want to change first, because you can't force that on someone. And there comes the first problem, most don't want to change, because their culture prevents them from opening up to others. Only whites open themselves to others, only whites teach such values. So while whites welcome them with open arms, subhumans themselves think "what a bunch of idiots to welcome people that aren't like them".
Now let's assume they want to change. Well, change takes time, and most people don't live long enough to change. Well then maybe the next generation will change? Okay let's assume that, but that's a lot of assumptions now. So what happens when a foreigner finally incorporates a different culture and education? He gets back to it.
There's this African saying: If you want to know where you're going, think about where you come from. There's always that point in life when an individual thinks about that, about his true origins, and that is the point when he tries to make his memes match his genes, because he realizes his genes don't match that of others in the country, and his memes are not fitting who he is. People fundamentally try to get closer to the culture fitting their race. And there's this Holla Forums saying: "You can take the nigger out of Africa, but you can't take Africa out of the nigger". And that is how decades of social conditioning to make those people live in Europe come to fail. Just look at them, claiming to be American or European, and just after that always reminding of their roots. Some may even go as far as not consider themselves nationals of their own countries, such as French people of Algerian origin, who despite having never set foot in Algeria in two generations, call themselves Algerian. If racists and immigrants are so hostile to each other, it's because they have a lot in common, for they realize better than anyone else their differences.
Change takes will and time, and it can be reverted- better not count on it.

In the case of immigrants it's already a problem, and we've seen that change is long to come and doesn't last. When it comes to mixed-race, it's a living hell. Because their change occured at the gene level, they can never undo it. Those people are emotionally and mentally unstable because of that, and I insist on those terms. Human nature is a precarious enough state as it is, if on top of that you have no precise and defined roots you just cannot function normally. The things you're tied to oppose each other, you're lost in the world without a home, and you're a stranger anywhere you go. It seems like they're so fucking lost they want the entire world in this same state of despair and loss, so it feels closer to the big nothing they feel inside.
Raising kids in a foreign country is pretty much the worse thing you can do to them, but making them mixed-race is even worse. Multiculturalism is an error, immigrants were the first victims, mixed-race are the next ones, and they threaten to engulf the entire world with them in a big maelström of nothingness. And you never see a pure race individual of any race complain so fucking much about everything and try to destroy the entire world.

There you go, have fun.

Every "intellectually honest" person I know want to be willfully ignorant about certain matters, it's a bit grating.

Oh, they'll gladly divulge what they know about corporations, healthy living, meat industry, fluoride in the water, taxes being fucked, how a utopia could be formed yada yada.

But start telling them about the immigrant crisis, the rapings, the killings, the billions wasted, and suddenly they just don't want to know. They wanna know "happy things, better things". They don't want their "day ruined".

One guy admitted that he stopped hanging out with me because I made him too "negative". Hell, I didn't even talk about this shit a lot with him.

its really fucking easy to counter every point by just flipping it to the other races

like when niggers say blacks suck because whitey enslaved them. well if they were so fucking smart why did they let themselves get colonized to begin with?

whitey educated himself all by himself

Evolutionary biology, however, is.

Intellectually honest people KNOW there are differences between race and IQ.

It's not about trying to prove that point to them, it's about trying to teach them that's it's ok to acknowledge this. The only reason they'd deny race realism is for self-preservation purposes.

There certainly are no intellectually honest shitlibs. Partially because they're raised to think dishonestly, partially because they value FEELZ more than facts.

The intellectually honest people I know personally who admit race realism still won't speak about it openly and hesitate to even discuss it privately because "muh genocide, muh eugenics slippery slope fallacy." They still believe multiculturalism can work if we just give it a chance, but it might take a long time. Well, they're right about that. Of course what they still don't see is that multiculturalism means the inevitable genocide of all races (not just whites) as explained.

These are some of the smartest people I have ever met. Leftist thinking has infected them and the entirety of science academia, and it will be a considerable undertaking to cure it. This is when I start to think of death squads as a viable option.

Actually it was niggers who enslaved them, and then sold the slaves to whites.

But still, if colonization was so terrible, why is letting Europe get colonized by Africans such a great idea?

They didn't sell slaves to whites, they sold slaves to kikes. Majority, if not all, slave ship owners were kikes. I doubt more than a few whites in America owned slaves.

kikes were the slave owners.
never forget jews DONT WORK on lower professions

Evolution doesn't exist though. It's a myth propagated by a literal Jew.

There is more evidence for than against.

So you trust Jews now?
Amount of evidence doesn't equate to truth.
There's a lot of evidence global warming exists. There's a lot of evidence that the holocaust happened.
There's a lot of evidence that race is a social construct.

Do you trust these scientist's claims because they have evidence for it?

Then tell me how evolution is a myth and what benefit the juden would have for spreading said myth.

Don't encourage the dumb kike. Just filter him, he's trying to feed you disinfo and waste your time.

I'm no scientist but I think this is it.

In my first year of college (and only year, after I realized how much worse that mistake could have been), I had to take "Ethnic Studies 101", the prof was a white libcuck who, after showing some clip from a video or some shit, would always say "now you should all have alarm bells going off right now".
Another class was an art class (postmodernism can go fuck itself) where one of the assignments was something along the lines of finding an advertisement that you found "problematic" and create an art piece that "talked back" to the ad, or some pretentious shit to that nature.
My point it that colleges (at least liberal arts colleges) do indeed train students to think with and justify their actions with emotions. I'm so fucking glad I left that shit.

Why do college students need to take additional classes such as 'ethnic studies 101'.
If you're there to study science or something, couldn't that extra time be used for more study or working a part time job?

Yup I can see that

Chirst you cucks. If you can't see the issue then you just fucking pathetic.

I fixed that for you.

Even if it's real, its inherent use as a vicious attack on religion is undeniable. It will ultimately never be compatible with places like the U.S.A., because of the U.S.A.'s founding documents implying the existence of a God, and that God being one of the reasons for the founding documents existing in the first place. No God = No Supreme Laws of the U.S.A. It's a question of national survival vs. satisfying the egos of the intellectual minority.

Nope, every time I have tried to initiate this discussion they have said 'socio-economic reasons' or similar.

The problem is #1 is already a false premise. Even Der Fuhrer himself admitted that the German people had humble origins compared to others, despite their then current greatness. Throughout most of history, civilization was limited to the Mediterranean world and parts of Asia, while non-Mediterranean Europeans were living like primitive savages in shitty huts that wouldn't look out of place in Sub-Saharan Africa. If disposition and culture are as inborn as you seem to believe, there would have been high civilizations flourishing in Scandinavia and Central Europe in ancient times. Instead, the people were primitive barbarians who often raped and pillaged, literally almost the same way niggers in da hood behave today.

There is no way out of this problem, unless you go full on "WE WUZ KANGZ" snow nigger edition and claim that every civilization everywhere was started by Germanic / Nords despite there being no traces of any old civilization in their own lands. Of course, to combat that, you would have to make up some shit like "Match of the Titans" about how ancient Aryans ruled a global empire from the lost continent of Atlantis N SHEEEEIIIIT UNTIL DOSE MUH FUGGEN SHITSKINS RUINED IT SIMULTANEOUSLY ON EVERY CONTINENT IN THE WORLD CAUSING THE ANCIENT ARYANS TO GO EXTINCT! At that point, you sound as crazy as the people who believe in Reptilians, and no one will ever take you seriously.

So… their culture?

That's a good argument, OP. However, your argument has very limited practical applications.

You have to understand something here, OP: The average left-winger is a moron who lives in a fantasy world of make-believe. Your are assuming that people, on average, are intellectually honest. That assumption is flawed. The overwhelming majority of lefties are NOT intellectually honest and never will be.

Left-wingers do not care about truth. They are motivated purely by their feelings and do not possess a capacity for reason or intellectual discourse. They are not intelligent people. It is a mistake to assume that they are.

If you try your sequence of arguments against a left-winger, they will respond with name-calling, ad hominen attacks on your character and other childish nonsense because that is the height of their capacity for reason. In their small and infantile minds, name-calling is used as a substitute for reason and he who possesses the more witty insult is at the top of their intellectual pyramid. And during the debate, they will literally act smug and condescending towards whilst acting like a bunch of complete retards.

This is the sort of people that you are dealing with – really stupid people. And any evidence that questions this narrative of theirs, no matter how compelling, be damned.

There is no way to reason with these people because they are not capable of reason. They're literally retarded. They're like niggers except that occasionally you stumble on a nigger who is semi-intelligent.

The proper way to respond to lefties is to poke fun at then. Trying to engage these morons in an honest intellectual debate is a waste of your time and ours. We are talking about people who poke fun at evangelicals for denying the theory of evolution whilst simultaneously denying the very same theory as it applies to humans and criticizing anyone who calls them on their bullshit as a "waysisst". These people are really stupid.

You're wasting your time, OP.

FTFY

The evil can't be blamed for their actions; they're innocent for they act only in accordance with their evil nature.

K. Name one testable hypothesis made in it, which was tested and unfalsified afterwards. (Include the timeline. Fitting the hypothesis to observations doesn't count.)

Making people materialistic, therefore making them amoral and hedonistic, therefore easily controllable. A world of mongrels that only care about bread and circusses provided to them by the chosen is a rabbi's wet dream.

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They will just repeat bullshit they read in Guns, Germs, and Steel. It's a lot cause OP

Nigger, there are literally thousands of studies proving that evolution is the process through which all life on this planet came into existence. God can't be proven or disproven, so who gives a shit, that isn't the point. Furthermore, intelligent design doesn't bring anything to the table that would be required for evolution to work. And don't you fucking forget, evolution was discovered by white civilization. It was a white man living in the most prosperous nation that had ever existed who literally uncovered the hidden order of life (darwinism/natural selection) while every other race was still wallowing in darkness and shit. I don't even have a beef with christianity, but you christcucks need to know your fucking place when it comes to these issues.

Blah, blah, blah. Ok OP and while you're doing that, am gonna fuck his sister.

How does this damage or change the original point at all? Greeks and Romans, at least back in the day, were actually white. You don't need to invent Atlantis to talk about the glories of Hellenic Greece or SPQR.

A certain portion of the population are inborn leftists or otherwise reliant on the current system to live. Some people will never come over to our side until we're already more than 80 percent of the population. They might not necessarily be retarded, but if they know they have a future in the ovens…they're not going to volunteer.

The best solution I've found for dealing with GGS is to not even bother with the intellectual argument (you can do that later). Instead, when dealing with the bluepilled, talk about how Jared Diamond is a nasty racist who proposed using genetic testing to keep his country racially pure (this is actually true).

Not who you're talking to, but I really don't understand why people can't accept evolution. There's so much evidence, even when you just look at the psychological and physiological traits left over from evolution. So much of human behavior and psychology is explained by evolution yet makes no sense whatsoever when viewed from the perspective of "intelligent design".

How to redpill a person on race by bypassing their social conditioning while hearing your side of the argument

Talk about animals. Don't make the conversation about race until the very end. Fuck it blindside them altogether and bring this up out of the blue.

The animals to talk about are dogs. Almost everyone likes dogs. And facts about dogs are pretty common knowledge.

The conversation:

The person will nod in agreement. Only a fucking asshole would ever deny the differences between a Pit Bull and a Beagle. The key here is to get them to agree that dogs are different and to acknowledge even though they are totally different, they can still breed because of the 95% genetic similarity.

Now here is the trap:

Let them sit on that for a minute.

I've used this on people who were "on their way" to getting redpilled. I.E. someone who admits banks are owned by Jews or don't trust the government or whatever. This is a great way to get their heads thinking about race because it bypasses marxist thinking and forces them to think logically about race.

Don't bother using this on leftists as they will talk in circles about nonesense. Leftists aren't humans. They can't into simple logical thinking.

My approach is somewhat shorter:

If different breeds of dogs have differing tendencies towards intelligence, why would the situation be any different for humans?

Depending on how they react and to avoid knee-jerk, I sometimes follow up with a dialogue about how these differences MIGHT not be significant to the point of mattering, but this is a matter that scientific data should clarify (not blind faith).

It plants a seed for later.

Beat me to it.

Or stop being a coward and openly state your beliefs. You'll realize most people agree with you and the longer you do it, the more that will.

What if they bring up eugenics?

"this has nothing to do with eugenics, we're talking about dogs you fag"

Adversity makes you strong, and our lands were covered in ice cold adversity for over half the year in the places we evolved.

Good point. With a tropical climate without winter you don't have to be smart enough to think far ahead for storing food or building viable shelter - just smart enough to graze and hunt the same way all year. But when winter comes into play, the stupid are selected out and only the smart and tough survive.

Then again, jungles are fucking terrifying too.

who the fuck made that image?

wildcard:
postmodernist.
of course at step 1, he'll say culture
step 2 answer is yes
step 3, answer is no. he will maintain that the idea of "children taking after their parents" and "internalizing beliefs" is imparted on our cultural zietgiest to the point where children hear of the idea and begin to emulate their parents. He will remain adamant in this position regardless of evidence.blank slate fallacy at it's prime.how do you respond?

People get mad at Jared Taylor but he has sharpened this technique into a scythe.

The kind of loser that would save the image in the first place.

The kind of scythe his jewish buds use to stab us in the back, I see.

How might his Jewish buds use authentic race information to stab us in the back?

By you letting their people thrive you dimwitted host of a parasite faggot.

Shut the fuck up.

thx m80

small memes thread?
sometimes they are the most powerful.

here are some on trying to prove race:

no - its magic blood

a race can exist without its original culture, but their culture exists because of their race

and the best one is to point out multiculturalism is the antithesis of diversity

Nice Stockholm Syndrome, faggot.

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The Chinese invented gunpowder.
Arabs invented algebra.
Egyptians invented paper.
Polynesians traveled throughout the Pacific.
Amazon folk remedies are the main ingredients in Big Pharma pills.

Just like how Asians have "evolved" not getting diabetes and cancer until they are introduced to a Western diet?

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Not where I'm from buddy. I'm in an SJW capital.

Infiltration and subversion has always been a more effective tactic than outright war. They can't defend or attack because they don't know even realize it's happening.

Look at how genius Russia's current subversion of America is. SJW'ism is Yuri Bezmenov's Subversive Feminism on steroids. And most people think it's legit.

ebin christianity maymay my fellow -pol-ester

Holy shit. I was redpilled since fucking childbirth then, WOW.

regression to the mean. even if you only breed the most intelligent niggers, they will begin spawning retarded children because not enough niggers are high iq and they would have to inbreed. and there is no reason for blacks to breed with whites seeing as how they are already much less intelligent. they need to just be eradicated along with other nonwhites.

Someone with a good monitor rez, screencap this please.

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Non-white detected, butt-hurt zipperhead noted.

Tell me, what caused azians to evolve small penises, was it your womens tight small pussies?

You forgot to add niggers and peanut butter.

Look at him.
Look at him and laugh
At his little yellow baby penis

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You can make the distinction between positive and negative eugenics.
tl;dr:

i dont think so partner, all around shitty post there.

That's the names given to the two philosophies of eugenics.
I didn't name them you nigger.

so why even bring it up if both sides are pozzed? say we get an ideal government in power, obviously shit tier people (id say people who score lower than a 60 on a asvab type test) should be forcefully sterilized. and the people who will have incentive to breed will do so because of being redpilled not because of being subsidized by the government to do so. if their brains aren't wired to desire strong children for the future, they shouldnt have any other external motivation to have them (such as monetary benefits). we dont want to kill our humanity with eugenics by making it machine-like but we also want it to be effective.

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The point is to bypass the "EUGENICS = MASS-MURDERING EVERYONE YOU THINK IS INFERIOR".
You can also bring up the conundrum that understanding genetics makes it impossible to not practice eugenics one way or another. Letting it just be, or even worse letting it be all in the hands social and environmental engineers is untenable.

This guy gets it.

that is a simplification. The japanese are superior to the portuguese, albanians, sicilians etc.
no he will say " muh guns germs and steel. you are a racist. I saw an african wearing a suit once"

basically you can't redpill people IRL very easily. People searching for answers get red-pilled online. just keep making content and people will come.

Can we still kill all the niggers? I want them dead. Even Darwin predicted that we would kill them. Genociding humans is wrong but what is wrong with genociding half-humans?

Kill yourself

Tried this. They said that other races were more advanced than whites and that they reason whites excelled was because of violent oppression and walked away.

Then you get muh "humans aren't X" type of fallacy.

evolution is 100% true, but human evolution is another story. I suspect that eurasians were created by anunnaki space gods. Germanics mythology says that humans were created from a "tree". That is a metaphor for an already existing hominid. The bible says the snake gave humans knowledge. That sounds like an alien genetically engineering eurasians out of africans (pre-homo erectus mixture) to me. The japanese also say they are descended from gods. The aztecs say a bearded white guy made their civilization. There are records of flyng saucers in ancient vedic india called vimanas and a painting of a space battle in germany.

Every day there divide & conquer shills, they get worse by the day. Next year will be very current

The stereotype of all Asian men having small penises is not true. It's a trope of Asian porn.

And Austrians with their wieners. And Scandinavians with their entire menu of disgusting slop.

Back to GLP

I'm not sure. I just think we should research it seriously. Maybe we are just evolved apes, but there are other narratives.

Do you agree that the stereotype of niggers having big dicks is also a trope of nigger and racemixing porn?

Niggers do not have big dicks. Nigger dicks in porn are prosthetics. ingnoring self reported dick sizes their is not evidence that thay have big dicks. even if they do it would be a fraction of inch different. basically nothing. Asians do probably have smaller dicks. There are studies where only the asian and non-asian dicks sizes are significantly different while niggers are no bigger than whites. Japanese condoms are also smaller.

Hence why I said stereotype and trope.

I asked myself the same question, it's part of why I left.

Because (((certain people))) think STEMlords are problematic and need sensitivity training to the point where Gender Studies 101 is mandatory at certain universities nowadays.

Here you go

All I had to do was give them a copy of The 10.000 Year Explosion

In my experience, there's no 'shortcut' to redpilling normies. It can be done but it's a long, drawn-out process and requires an in-depth understanding of their biases, the vulnerabilities in their pre-existing belief system, and a careful presentation of facts that will push them in the right direction.

Even then, they still have to demonstrate a certain level of intellectual curiosity and few people do.

asians have high diabetes rates and high cancer rates for some cancer

This. More importantly, try to make them think that whatever you're trying to convince them of was their idea. People don't like being told what to think. I have to stress the importance of using "I feel, I think etc." because, as everyone here should know, leftists don't use reason to form their opinions, they use their feelings. If they used reason, they wouldn't be leftists.

Every nigger that desired a beyter life fucked off and left dude.

And the rivers were unfit for trade, svae the Nile. So there was little trade ability to exploit and thus use as evolutionary leverage. There is no reward in Africa for engineering, he farming, or much mass organization.

Ever think about why niggers are good at boxing?

Because for their skulls, brain capacity and complexity were less valuable than durability in their natural environment, there was not enough reward to justify the extra calories involved in the complex formation of the brain, and not enough reward to justify weakening the skull structure for any compromise.

There was nothing to make use of.

In addition, every niggers who got tired of the bullshit? They fucking left AFRICA.

Now some of them just walked along the warm shores of India, and eventually ended up in Australia. And because all they had to do was wlk, they became utterly retarded. No need to think.

It wasnt until the 19th century that niggers started wandering into the Southern reaches of South Africa.

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Besides, you type like a angry shitskin.

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And did nothing with it but fireworks.
Nope. Greeks and early non-Dravidianized Indians did.
Egyptians were White.
So have many non-flying animals.
Maybe because they were lucky to be born in the place with the greatest biodiversity on Earth when the entire holarctic region where Whites thrived only had a couple of tens of medicinally useful plants? Is drinking chamomile and sideritis tea when I get a sore throat the greatest scientific achievement of my continent?

Full of fun makes face smile.

What is interesting is that the person who either contributed or compiled algebra was a Persian.

Even people with highly technical backgrounds buy into this nonsense. It's the guilt complex that needs to undone before they can accept this information. Often it's not even specifically white guilt. It's that they feel like they're being unnecessarily 'mean' to people by accepting and promoting reality.