So I was walking down to my place from class...

So I was walking down to my place from class, and I saw a poster for a seminar dedicated to Marxism-Leninism and general Communism stuff.
What do you think about this case, in regards to free speech? Should Marxists have free speech, or Jews (I know that's redundant).

I think every year since the '60's is evidence that Western altruism has failed to take into account the nature of the Cultural Marxist and their agenda of subversion of tradition, honour, the family unit, marriage, etc.
What do you think? Personally, I think the only free thing Marxists deserve is free helicopter rides. Do any burgers have alternate arguments? I am not against free speech at all, but doesn't the press also have free speech? Look at what the Jew has done with their power, they have brainwashed the populous and shifted the Overton window as far left as it can go. I am not against free speech in the sense of open arguments discussing the merits of beliefs/their critiques, but this is not a reality anymore (try talking some numbers with a Cultural Marxist in regards to black crime, for example).
Thoughts?

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To add, I'm not against open discourse of ideas and analyzing the merits of various arguments, but Marxists have reversed this. I think you should critique the state, religion, etc., but have those critiques put on a pedestal to be critiqued, themselves. I don't believe this is possible anymore. I can say "white people killed natives", but you can't say "actually, majority of deaths were disease deaths which are very common when communities interacted with one another during that day and age, it was an unfortunate scenario, but you might as well be blaming rats for the Black plague".

They should be free to discuss. But the public should be educated enough to rebut every point they make.

Commies should be killed
Dead people can't talk
Therefore free speech is not an issue

You are supposed to go for totalitarianism only after you are in power, not while you are masturbating to the concept of taking power.

Hello /leftypol

Free speech was a mistake. Ban defeatism, degeneracy and subversion. Promoting communism is treason.

You're clearly new OP. Lurk at least 2 years before posting, let alone making a thread. This belongs in QTDDTOT. A thread died for this trash.

So you tore it down. You tore it down calmly and with an air of appearing as though it was your job to do so. You folded it up and took it with you, but later shredded it and threw it away a distance from its original location.

That is what you do. Every instance of leftist propaganda, everywhere you see it. This is how you behave.

Free speech should always be allowed. But should commies be allowed?

It already is, and nobody agrees with it except double digit IQ retards, drug addicts, and failures.

No. Communists have a track record of failure and have left behind too large a body count to be allowed continued existence.

Freedom of religion should be allowed, but is Islam (and judaism) a religion, or is it a cult, and therefore NOT protected by the first amendment?

Is that the case? Examine the mass indoctrination of the people, the Jew has shifted the Overton window as far left as possible, discourse is not an option.


I think that helicopter rides are a very attractive option, seeing how traditional values degrade by the day.


mkay.


Sorry, this is my fourth post here. You are correct, I just don't think it would gain any traction in those threads, many of them are dead.


I couldn't, people were around and I promised my parents I would try my hardest in school, getting suspended isn't an option. I could sacrifice my future, but for a poster?

You’re a damn coward. You take it down as though it’s your job. Someone asks, you fucking lie. “The date is wrong,” “Spelling error,” “We’re adding some more information.”
Your parents are fucking cuckolds if they don’t understand something like this.

This is the image that always comes in my head when I hear the free speech argument, it's like they are tying the hangman's noose themselves.


I don't think you know what you are talking about, I have been overtly redpilled for a while now. I have lost all my friends, nobody wants to be around me, no girl will look twice at me knowing what I have said about feminist theory. I do my part, I was just more puzzled than anything else to see Marx's fat mug staring at me than anything else.

These things should be dealt with via extrajudicial means. The state cannot be trusted to hold your right to freedom of anything sacred if you allow a slippery slope to be created.

For example, burning books filled with race-mixing garbage and Sodomy-forgiveness: this would technically be protected by freedom of speech, but the future it holds is a bleak one. It's the same argument for democracy, not everyone should have the right to vote, but the right people have the right to vote. If you extend these freedoms to those who hold beliefs which are objectively deleterious to the well-being and prosperity of a nation, then is it worth it to maintain the Western altruism? I think not, I think it extends to whites alone, nobody else.

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Marxism and it's sub-genres is a disease so it doesn't come under Freedom of Speech.

Cure is death.

Here's that meme again. Westerners have been the most brutal group in history.

Nobody denies that when the Germans snap, it will be amazing, but it sure as shit doesn't look very likely, their own women are betraying them.

PHYSICAL
REMOVAL

Free speech allows subversion

Yeah, you sound like a fucking self-sorry cuckold. It’s not enough to believe the truth. You have to fucking act on it, faggot. And women love traditionalist men–they DON’T love leftist flunkies.

Tear down the goddamn poster or you’re not worthy of being here.

right to reply
right to comment
right to criticize

- power of broadcast must have the responsibility of broadcast
- 'no-platforming' has come into the light again
- don't make politically charged statements if you don't want politically charged replies

inb4 leftypol uses this thread as example of book burning nazis

Here in Canada, we literally have hate speech laws. The media will label you as some criminal instead of anti-heeb. You will be demonized with nobody the wiser. This whole thing extends tho this point as well, niggers can go on and on about blm and tear down trump posters/desecrate them, but if I did it to a literal Marxist poster, I would get arrested.
I'd make my own poster with 'hate speech' if I was to be arrested.


exactly, is it worth it to have a nigger-infested nation that can speak their mind, or rather, what the media tells them to say?

LKY: We cannot allow them to assume a role in Singapore that the American media play in America, that of invigilator, adversary and inquisitor of the administration.

precisely correct, and who controls the media? What do they push for?

No. Anti-racists and Marxists need to be lined up against a wall and shot

more LKY on his experience with the media

Communists don't deserve to breathe the sweet air of Mother Earth.

But what about the freedom of speech? A guy brought up an interesting point, that the BLM and Marx enthusiasts use the same argument against the 'basket of deplorable' nonsense, that we are evil and must be stopped.
My issue with this is that they have no proof, no honest proof. There is blatant evidence of Jews pushing anti-white garbage onto the masses.

They are literally trying to genocide your race and steal your land and you give a fuck about some ideological bullshit

You're a cuckold

I'm not defending them, I agree that one ought not deal with a traitor as if he were an ally, just because they are bound by the same Constitution.

That isn't a good point. Same standards don't apply to everyone. Leave your universalist autism in the garbage where it belongs.

You have the right to speech. You do not have the right to action.

You can say you want a revolution all you want. To start one is to be put down like the dog you are. You can say you want to enact the 10 planks of communism. To enact them is to be put down like the dog you are.

KILL ALL COMMUNISTS. IT’S FUCKING JEWISH.

The problem with placing restrictions on anything, and I mean anything, is what happens when the wrong people gain control of the oversight comities such restrictions necessitate.

Sure, if we could be confident in the people in these comities we could place the right restrictions and regulations on every aspect of the people's lives and create the perfect society. The problem comes about when that balance is achieved. Once you get the perfect system, one little nudge can throw it completely off course.

As far as speech goes: when you begin justifying why some kinds of speech must be regulated, expect your same arguments to be evoked in the suppression of other kinds of speech.
I would be in favor of banning subversive ideas like communism, but what's to stop the next guy from banning things that need not be banned?

You should have mentioned that. You MUST still do it, but you’ll have to do it with no one around, since anyone can fink on anyone for any reason.

Literally nobody cares about your autism.

You're enemy jails you for making anti-migrant Facebook posts while the migrants riot and rape your women.

Why should any of us here extend this courtesy of "free speech" to these people is beyond any logic.

Exactly my point, but here in Canada, that's the fucking law! Media can shill it as much as they want! This is the exact point I am trying to make, they cannot be trusted with what honest and virtuous men can handle.


Is that not how it started, a bunch of kikes pushing for homosexuality? If you don't like it don't look ,victimless bullshit?

I say ostracize the degenerate, execute them eventually.


There's that image with the hate speech shit from BC (province I live in) with the 'hate speech' guy as a discount Trump cartoon.


In what way am I autistic, I agree with what you are saying, I am positing why the present is as it is. Does this make you autistic as well?

Yes. Should they be free from ridicule and be allowed hugboxes or safe spaces? No.

Free speech for us, not for commies.

Respecting Classical Liberalism in any way shape or form is reason why the Right continues to lose.

It's the same logic as giving your enemy the same treatment as you would your own ilk.

You wouldn't arm your enemies (Muslim immigrants) because of the second amendment? Constitution extends to pure-blooded Americans only.

authoritarian's favourite person in the world. for every 1 lee kuan yew there are 100 mugabes. top fucking kek.

On our current path, the Communists win and take our free speech. Any form of against the progressive party line is already socially taboo, and it's just a matter of time before they make it official via law. The situation is ominous, indeed.

That said, we cannot and should not abandon free speech. It's what allows us to speak right now. Besides, most of the problems are related to culture. Normies become SJWs because we don't have the kind of moral system in place to keep them on the straight and narrow. This is where need the churches to be strong, but unfortunately, most have already given up on bringing back religiosity in white people. That's why they support mass immigration of Muslims and Hispanics.

The only way to avoid civil war between right and left is to supplant the existing culture with new memes (i.e. introduce a new religion). Atheism is more and more common, but from where I'm sitting, Rationalism is half past dead. If we design it right, we can convert the SJWs to something that protects our most basic freedoms and gives us a few hundred years of non-PC sanity. I recommend Kekism! :^)

Religious point-of-view is an argument for another time. Personally, I believe in a God and see Christianity as a great litmus test to weed out degenerates. Good views on Sodomites (not execution-style like Islam, but ostracize and convert to the sane path, instead) and other degenerate behaviour.

I think you are giving the benefit of the doubt to the traitor. The race-mixers and Sodomite deserve speech? It is precisely that speech which has destroyed traditional values and culture. You want to magnify and accelerate the decline because you hold your enemy to the same standard you hold yourself to.
Again, the image I posted here:
Is the only thing that comes to mind. You give them the freedom to desecrate the streets you use to honour the fallen soldiers of war, opting for homosexual nonsense.

They will say horseshoe theory is alive and well (they referencing centrists who are actually closet lefties), but all you have to do is provide proof for the claim. The minute you mention the Jew, they shit the bed and leave the conversation. You cannot critique them, they don't care about any information as long as it is what the media tells them.

It's also what allows our enemies to speak, and what allowed kikes to destroy our culture.

If Fascism is banned, Communism should be banned too.

Define Fascism, define Communism.
here's my take on Fascism, good source: anesi.com/Fascism-TheUltimateDefinition.htm
Communism, I don't understand, anything you say is just "not true Communism". Stateless collective villages all working together and contributing resources in a giant pool to be shared by the masses, is what I think it is. In practice, force is required and not everybody has to be a part of the collective (i.e. champagne socialists, farmers to pigs).

anime memes are shit tier and have been since 2009.
Why is it always about girls now?
They aren't that interesting.
Didn't you get into anime for reasons other than little girls doing retarded things?
Didn't you used to watch DBZ?
3D > 2D btw

How it's in Germany, no nazi shit allowed, then no communism shit too.

I wouldn't know, I never lived there. Is Commie shit actually banned in Germany? Why are there so many socialist policies in place?

Why? That doesn't make sense at all.

I think he's implying that Fascism is on-par with Communism, in that it is a mean ideology or something. Not sure, he won't elaborate.

Presupposed is the recognition of the unity of the nation and people, and the absence of class and confessional discussion.

we should have free speech but have a system where free speech has little effect on the governing body (aka remove democratic institutions). It can be allowed as long as we can have and maintain a dominant culture that promotes health and prosperity for white people in white nations.

And make sure they get tortured a bit first - let them scream as much as they want - that can be their free speech

Couldn't make yourself more obvious. I know a board just for you.

>>>Holla Forums

You should buy the fattest fucking sharpie you can find and write "WHO IS YURI BEZMENOV?" Across Marx's disgusting fat face.

failing to do this will earn you one Holla Forums demerit.

It's time we start doing something to combat these people. I saw someone trying to get people to join his marxist group at my local college. I laughed in his face and told him to kill himself.

Not catchy enough and sounds like the type of 2deep4u shit Commies do when they recommend reading a book that they themselves haven't even opened.

I agree OP. If I had my way, free speech and the first amendment would be a thing. However there needs to be some changes. An amendment to the first amendment saying that ideologies must benefit the people, communism and socialism therefore would be banned. Also freedom of religion would be a thing, but the religion has to be able to coincide with western civilization. So Jews and Muslims for example are banned.

Exactly. The idea is to redpill the commies by accident.

Direct action doesn't work on these people unless it is violence.

It would be easier to just write Yuri's name and then have people look into it thinking that it would help them find out who did it. It would also force it into discussion between the Commies and some people walking past might look it up, but most will just not give enough of a shit and most people don't buy into the "read X or else you are an idiot" garbage so it will be an ineffective tool.

Marxists should be free to talk about marxism and we should be free to shoot them for it.

Free speech doesn't cover for treason.

That also sounds good.

I'm partial to phrasing it in a question because questions require answers.

Just writing some guys name is not a call to action. We have to weaponise the red pills. Some how make them into digestible click bait for normies.

We need our own Volkfeed

I've seen the same things at my uni

The ones I see are glued completely to the wall so all you can do is cover them
I plan to cover them with pic related

Red Ice Radio is pretty good, they cover a lot of interesting topics that tend to be rarely mentioned even here. Just getting them interested in Red Ice Radio with a normalfag-friendly few broadcasts could help like with the one with the black researcher that looked into shit regarding estrogen

Everyone should have free speech (though the media is very corruptible) we shouldn't make certain ideas illegal/banned we should destroy them with logic.

Free speech doesn't exist in America. There are examples of unprotected speech. In my opinion, ideologies and actions that seek to subvert the core ideals of this country should not be considered free speech.
Seems pretty logical to me. Flags should not be burned any way outside of official, traditional methods. There is some shit you should just not take, and anyone who says otherwise is a cuck retard themselves who doesn't know what a parasite does.

Shills from other countries and refugees willing to come here to burn flags in protest are in for one hell of a surprise when their faces end up being plastered everywhere in the news

Marxists have a stranglehold because they rose by stealth and their actions were not effectively challenged by the opposition. The time for old-fashioned 'democratic' strategy has long past. The only way to counter the cancer is to be the treatment and ultimately the cure.

Kekism won't work. Meme magic and Kek are great, but at the same time, they're not European and will not unite European people. I should specify that monotheism will not work, and a pantheon of Egyptian gods will not work.
Same with Christianity, although Christianity is far more dangerous, just another middle-eastern religion that is hell-bent on destroying European people.

Going back to European paganism seems like the best option. It was a much more flexible system which didn't involve killing all other sects of European paganism that wasn't exactly the same as your own, but rather incorporating their gods and the tales associated with them into their own pantheon, while keeping true to the things held sacred by each of the other gods.

i mean using free speech for promoting marxism is like using free speech against free speech.

Nice trips and fuck you.

Don't you want to win? Are you a gamergoy by any chance?

The enemy should adhere to our restrictive rules, there are no rules for us when dealing with the enemy.

keep larping m8, I'll praise kek while you do that


numerals observed

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Easily answered in a parable. People are welcome in their neighbourhood pub/bar. They can come in, meet their friends, have a laugh and put the world to rights over a drink, then go home to their families. A compulsive arsonist comes in and tries to set fire to the building. Is he welcome there any more?

If it were up to me I'd say there should be a complete purge of marxism. There should be no books, no ideas, no one left who knows about them. The problem is that there's a sucker born every minute, and trying to kill an idea just makes it stronger. Trying to erase marxism will only make the useful idiots think they're doing the right thing so they'll fight harder plus making them look like underdogs, and people love underdogs. Not only that, but removing freedom of speech for certain people puts you on slippery slope territory and the inevitably corrupt part will try to classify anything they don't like as marxism to shut it down.
If only it were so easy.

European Paganism isn't an alternative, it's the only viable option. You're praising a god from a pagan pantheon right now, only that one isn't even European.
Reminder that most of the crusades were against other Christians, because each sect of Christianity believed that only their interpretation of the bible was correct, and that everyone else is a heretic and should be purged.
You clearly don't understand how paganism works, or what the purpose of having many gods is.
Remember how I specifically said European paganism? Because that's what I meant. Not some shitty Aztec or Egyptian pantheon. At this point you're pretty much saying that the traditional Europe is more degenerate than modern Christianity (or any for that matter), which is complete bullshit. Assuming you're European, you should do some actual research before shitting over your heritage in favour of some middle-eastern religion that only serves to fuck us over with its message of tolerance and acceptance of everything under the sun.


You're right, trying to purge something without people understanding why it is being purged will not work. We just have to teach people why these things are wrong, and then no one will actually want to read about or promote the ideas in the first place - assuming we are racially homogenous at the same time.

Sage because you're a weak faggot who didn't disrupt the demonstration by shouting the tens of millions of deaths Karl Marx, Trotsky, and Stalin caused.

BETTER DEAD THAN RED

What a fucking joke.

People have followed islam as a horrible totalitarian ideology for ages. You give man to much credit

outlaw us otherwise we convert everybody to glorious marxism-leninism.

goodnight pol.acks

You Reddit kids are so cute. If you had "marxism-leninism" you'd be in landfill.

This irony is completely lost on the left. Remember, these are the fags who want to bring in Isalm, knowing full well they toss fags off of roof-tops.

Malcom X was killed for leaving the Nation of Islam, you will suffer a similar fate.

How long have you been on here?
Show up to their meeting with a shitlord squad and refute then in public

I'm pretty far gone at this point
I want free speech for people I like and that's it. Why should idiot mongrels be allowed to freely yap their opinions at me? I wonder this now, amid other dark thoughts.
And I'm not afraid to say shit like this in public but people are so apathetic now they don't give a shit anyway. If I said I want to slit every feminist throat they might glance up from their phones for MAYBE a second.
And OP you cuck you should have ripped down that poster

Our conversation is with Yuri Alexandrovic Bezmenov. Mr. Bezmenov was born in 1939 in a suburb of Moscow. He was the son of a high ranking Soviet Army officer. He was educated in the elite schools inside the Soviet Union; and became an expert in Indian culture and Indian languages.

He had an outstanding career with Novosti, which was, and still is I should say, the press arm or press agency of the Soviet Union; it turns out this is also a front, for the KGB.

He escaped to the West in 1970 after becoming totally disgusted with the Soviet system; and he did this at great risk to his life. He certainly is one of the worlds outstanding experts on the subject of Soviet propaganda; and disinformation and active measures.


ED GRIFFIN:

Well, you spoke before about "ideological subversion" and that's a phrase that I'm afraid some Americans don't understand. When the Soviets use the phrase "ideological subversion" what do they mean by it?

YURI BEZMENOV:

1. Ideological subversion is the process which is [a] legitimate, old word, and open. You can see it with your own eyes. All American mass media has to do is to "unplug bananas" from their ears, open up their eyes, and they can see it. There is no mystery.

It has nothing to do with espionage. I know that espionage intelligence gathering looks more romantic. It sells more deodorants through the advertising. That's probably why your Hollywood producers are so crazy about James Bond types of films. But in reality the main emphasis of the KGB is NOT in the area of intelligence at all.

According to my opinion, and the opinions of many defectors of my caliber, only about 15% of time, money, and manpower is spent on espionage as such. The other 85% is a slow process which we call either ideological subversion, active measures, or psychological warfare. What it basically means is: to change the perception of reality of every American that despite of the abundance of information no one is able to come to sensible conclusions in the interest of defending themselves, their families, their community, and their country.

It's a great brainwashing process which goes very slow and is divided into four basic stages.

The first stage being "demoralization". It takes from 15 to 20 years to demoralize a nation. Why that many years? Because this is the minimum number of years required to educate one generation of students in the country of your enemy exposed to the ideology of [their] enemy. In other words, Marxism-Leninism ideology is being pumped into the soft heads of at least 3 generation of American students without being challenged or counterbalanced by the basic values of Americanism; American patriotism.

Most of the activity of the department [KGB] was to compile huge amount / volume of information, on individuals who were instrumental in creating public opinion. Publisher, editors, journalists, uh actors, educationalists, professors of political science. Members of parliament, representatives of business circles.

Most of these people were divided roughly into two groups: those who would tow the Soviet foreign policy, they would be promoted to positions of power through media and public manipulation; [and] those who refuse the Soviet influence in their own country would be character assassinated OR executed physically, come Revolution.

Same way as in a small town of Hua in South Vietnam; several thousands of Vietnamese were executed in one night when the city was captured by [the] Viet Cong for only two days; and American CIA could never figure out - how could [the communists] possibly know each Individual, where he lives, where to get him; and [in order that they] would be arrested in one night basically in four hours before dawn, put on a van, driven out of the city limits and shot.

The answer is very simple. Long before communists occupy the city, there was extensive network of informers; local Vietnamese citizens who knew absolutely everything about people who are instrumental in public opinion - including Barbers and Taxi Drivers. Everyone who was sympathetic to United States was executed. Same thing was done under the guidance of the Soviet Embassy in Hanoi, and same thing I was doing in New Delhi. To my horror, I discovered that in the files were people who were doomed to execution. There were names of pro-Soviet Journalists, with whom I was personally friendly.

ED GRIFFIN:

Pro Soviet?

YURI BEZMENOV:

Yes, absolutely. They were idealistically minded leftist communists who had made several visits to the USSR; and yet the KGB decided, that come Revolution, or drastic changes in political structure of India - they will have to go.

ED GRIFFIN:

Why is that?

YURI BEZMENOV:

Because they know too much. Simply, because, you see the useful idiots; the leftists who are idealistically believing in the beauty of Soviet or Communist or Socialist or whatever system; when they get disillusioned, they become the worst enemies. That's why my KGB instructors specifically made the point, "never bother with leftists, forget about these political prostitutes - aim higher" this was my instruction. Try to get into, uh, large circulation, established conservative media. Reach filthy rich movie makers, intellectuals in so-called academic circles. Cynical, ego-centric people who can look into your eyes with angelic expression and tell you a lie. This are the most recruitable people; people who lack moral principals - who are either too greedy or too, uh, suffer from self-importance, uh, they feel that they matter a lot. Uh, these are the people who KGB wanted very much to recruit.

as long as you agree with me you can say what you want

ED GRIFFIN:

But to eliminate the others; to execute the others, don't they serve some purpose - wouldn't they be the one's to rely on?

YURI BEZMENOV:


No they serve purpose only [up] to the stage of destabilization of a nation. For example, your leftists in [the] United States; all these professors and all these beautiful civil rights defenders. They are instrumental in the process of the subversion; only to destabilize a nation. When the job is completed, they are not needed anymore. They know too much. Some of them, when they get disillusioned - when they see that Marxist-Leninist come to power. Obviously they get offended; they think that THEY will come to power. That will never happen, of course; they will be lined up against the wall and shot. But they may turn into the most bitter enemies of Marxist-Leninists when they come to power; and that's what happened in Nicaragua. You remember most of these former Marxist-Leninists were either put to prison or one of them split and now he's working against the Sandinistas

It happened in Grenada when Maurice Bishop, he was already a Marxist - he was executed by the new Marxists who was more Marxist than this Marxist.

Same happened in Afghanistan, when, uh, first there was Taraki he was killed by Amin, then Amin was killed by Karmal with the help of KGB.

Same happened in Bangladesh where Mujibur Rahman, very pro-soviet leftist; was assassinated by his own Marxist-Leninist military comrades.

It's the same pattern everywhere. The moment they serve their purpose, all the useful idiots are either executed entirely; all the idealistically minded Marxists. Or exiled, or put in prisons like in Cuba many former Marxists are in Cuba, and in prison.

So basically America is Stuck, with demoralization; and unless, even if you start right now this minute; you start educating new generation of Americans - it will still take you 15 to 20 years to turn the tide of uh, ideological perception of reality; uh back to normalcy and patriotism.

-send them to re-education camps
-ban marxism and marxism-derived ideologies like feminism, intersectionalism, etc.
-the more potent and subversive commies should be executed to be made an example of

malcolm x was a nigger supremacist black panther.

The result? The result you can see – most of the people who graduated in the 60's, dropouts or half-baked intellectuals, are now occupying the positions of power in the government, civil service, business, mass media, and educational systems. You are stuck with them. You can't get rid of to them. They are contaminated. They are programmed to think and react to certain stimuli in a certain pattern [alluding to Pavlov]. You can not change their mind even if you expose them to authentic information. Even if you prove that white is white and black is black, you still can not change the basic perception and the logic of behavior. In other words [for] these people the process of demoralization is complete and irreversible. To rid society of these people you need another 15 or 20 years to educate a new generation of patriotically minded and common sense people who would be acting in favor and in the interests of United States society.


ED GRIFFIN:

And yet these people who have been programmed and as you say [are] in place and who are favorable to an opening with the Soviet concept - these are the very people who would be marked for extermination in this country?

YURI BEZMENOV:

Most of them, yes. Simply because the psychological shock when they will see in [the] future what the beautiful society of EQUALITY and social justice means in practice, obviously they will revolt. They will be very unhappy [and] frustrated people, and Marxist Leninist regime does not tolerate these people. Obviously they will join the [ranks] of dissenters; dissidents.

'Unlike the present [1984] United States there will be no place for dissent in future [2008, "Hate Speech" Colorado SB200] Marxist-Leninist America.

[Now] you can get popular like Daniel Ellsberg and filthy rich like Jane Fonda for being a dissident [and] for criticizing your Pentagon. In [the] future these people will simply be [he makes a squishy noise] squashed like cockroaches for criticizing the government. Nobody is going to pay them nothing for their beautiful [and] noble ideas of EQUALITY. This they don't understand and it will be the greatest shock for them, of course.

The demoralization process in the United States is basically completed already for the last 25 years. Actually, it's over fulfilled because demoralization now reaches such areas where not even Comrade Andropov and all his experts would even dream of such tremendous success. Most of it is done by Americans to Americans thanks to lack of moral standards. As I mentioned before, exposure to true information does not matter anymore. A person who was demoralized is unable to assess true information. The facts tell nothing to him, even if I shower him with information, with authentic proof, with documents and pictures. Even if I take him by force to the Soviet Union and show him the concentration camps…he will refuse to believe it…. until he is going to receive a kick in his fat bottom.

When the military boot crashes - then he will understand. But not before that. That's the tragedy of the situation of demoralization.

2. The next stage is destabilization….

this time, subverter does not care about your ideas and the patterns of your consumption. Whether you eat junk food and get fat and flabby doesn't matter any more.

It only takes 2 to 5 years to destabilize a nation. This time what matters is essentials; economy, foreign relations, [and] defense systems. And you can see it quite clearly that in some… sensitive areas such as defense and [the] economy, the influence of Marxist-Leninist ideas in the United States is absolutely fantastic. I could never believe it 14 years ago when I landed in this part of the world that the process will go that fast.

3. The next stage of course is crisis, which may take only up to 6 weeks to bring a country to the verge of crisis. You can see it in Central America now; and after crisis, with the violent change of power structure and economy, you have the period of so called "normalization" [which] it may last indefinitely. Normalization is a cynical expression, borrower from Soviet Propaganda. When the Soviet tanks moved into Czechoslovakia in 1968, comrade Brezhnev said "Now the situation in brotherly Czechoslovakia is normalized". This is what will happen in [the] United States if you allow all the shmucks to bring the country to crisis.

To promise people all kinds of goodies, and the paradise on Earth. Uh to destabilize your economy to eliminate the principal of free market competition; and to put a big brother government in Washington D.C.; with benevolent dictators like [1984] Walter Mondale [2008 Obama] who will promise lots of things - Never mind whether the promises are fulfilled or not. He [the dictator] will go to Moscow to kiss the bottoms of a new generation of Soviet Assassins. Never mind [nothing to see here, move along], he will create false illusions that the situation is under control.

Situation is NOT under control. Situation is disgustingly out of control.

Most of the American politicians, media, and educational system train another generation of people who think they are living at the peacetime. False. United States is in a state of war; undeclared, total war against the basic principles and foundations of this system. And the initiator of this war is not Comrade Andropov of course - it's the system. However, ridiculous it may sound, [it is] the world Communist system, or the world Communist conspiracy. Whether I scare some people or not, I don't give a hoot. If you're not scared by now, nothing can scare you. You don't have to be paranoid about it. What actually happens now; that unlike myself, you have literally several years to live on unless United States wake up. The time bomb is ticking. With every second the disaster is coming closer. Unlike myself, you will have nowhere to defect to, unless you want to live in Antarctica with penguins.

This is it, this is the last country with freedom and possibility.

everybody should have free speech, but I should ALSO be able to freely choose to live in a community free of these parasites, protected by the guarded walls, and that's what hte globalists are trying to destroy, and enforce me to live in a pile of multicultural shit

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Pretty much this.

You look at those kids on Holla Forums and you realise absolutely none of them are true proles. The pictures alone all tell they are scrawny bourgeois middle class children who have never worked a day in their lives while living in an imperialist first world nation with all the benefits. They will always be the first to die because under Marxist-Leninism, it will never get better for them. Only the absolute very bottom of the bottom of the working class, the rednecks and such, will see any improvement in their lives, and even then only slightly. Overall, the rest will see all their bourgeois amenities drain away to worse than nothing, and they have and will always become the first disillusioned with Marxist-Leninism. They will then always be the first lined up against the wall and shot for being counterrevolutionary or not pure enough in their Marxist-Leninism compared to another revolutionary, just as has always happened.

Here's a list of some of the ones that tried the most failed ideology

Afghanistan (1978-1992)
Albania (1946-1992)
Angola (1975-1992)
Benin (1975-1990)
Bulgaria (1946-1990)
Cambodia (1975-1989)
Congo (1975-1992)
Czechoslovakia (1946-1990)
Ethiopia (1974-1991)
East Germany (1949-1990)
Hungary) (1949-1989)
North Korea 1948-1992 (in 1992, all references to Marxist-Leninism were scrubbed. Remains generic "socialist" state)
Mongolia (1924-1990)
Mozambique (1975-1990)
Poland (1945-1989)
Romania (1947-1989)
Somalia (1969-1991)
Soviet Union (1922-1991)
North Vietnam (1945-1975) (then they won the war)
South Yemen (1967-1990)
Ukraine (1919-1991)
Yugoslavia (1945-1992)
Bangladesh (1971-)
Guinea-Bissau (1973-)
Guyana (1980-)
India (1976-)
North Korea (1992-)
Nepal (2015-)
Portugal (1976-)
Sao Tome (1975-)
Sri Lanka (1985-)
Tanzania (1964-)
Algeria (1963-1989)
Burma (1962-1988)
Cape Verde (1975-1992)
Egypt (1958-2007)
Iraq (1968-2003)
Libya (1969-2011)
Madagascar (1975-1992)
Sudan (1973-1985)
Syria (1963-2012)

And don't give me any idiotic argument about "true communism" either. Almost all of them followed the rules, it's just that they never reached the end goal. That didn't change the fact that the steps leading up to the end goal aren't apart of the ideology itself, they most certainly are and if the steps to reach it are failures then the whole ideology is a failure. Marxist-Leninism and communism in general is like trying to bake a cake using rocks, soy milk, and sand. You will never achieve a true cake no matter how hard you try because the whole process is retarded.

And every anti-authoritarian movement end in subverted shit like the United States. I'd rather take your 1 in 100 chance than the sure civilizational failure.

Important distinction to make here - Mugabe is a nigger while Lee Kuan Yew is a high-iq Chinaman.

hmmm
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Put up a poster for a seminar on the virtues of Hitler's philosophy and see what happens. They've denied you your free speech. If we get our country back we need to protect it from jews, and I see no problem with treating them just as badly as they have tried to treat us.
Of course, the question becomes moot when you realize that there will be no jews to give free speech to.

JUST

These ideas may be shared but should be openly and scornfully rebuked. I suggest you attend and counter their arguments. This podcast may be a good study in how these faggots think. Their class status is disqualifying alone.

soundcloud.com/tharru-635500471/ep-30-kulturkampf-live-debate-9416-marxism-in-the-modern-context

There is no such thing as free speech, even if the goverment allows you to speak whatever you want, you are still subjectible to altering your opinion via media, friends, vocabulary even. Mememagic is right in that sense that developing an internet culture and language with words that sympathise with right-wing ideology, thus making it much stronger even if you don't believe in it, but still use the culture. As long as there are means in which you communicate, you will be subjected to one ideology or another.
My answer is that we either control the language(memes) and shape the public in that way that they simply cannot think thoughts opposing us (outjewing the jews) and basically become an orwellian dystopia, or choose a strong leader (leaders) that knows what's best for us through his vast knowledge and empathy, or design an AI that uses only logic in defining what is best for humanity and obey it absolutely, no matter the morals.
Mind you, that as long as human kind has "free will", it has always been an orwellian dystopia, every one of us has no free speech, because we are influenced by everything around us. The only way to have "free speech" is by saying nothing at all and keeping your choices open eternally.

You should go and preach the virtues of NazBol and tell them the highest forms of communism achieved was by Pol Pot and the glorious Kims of DPRK. Stalin and Mao are also breddy gud.

GAS THE KIKES
CLASS WAR NOW

you know what to do

It is time we finally update our laws to reflect that subversion and destruction of society is not necessarily a direct and violent act. If at the start of the 20th century they had laws on the books that targeted jews or anyone sharing ideas that were counter-productive or outright oppositional to American culture and society we would not be in today's mess.

then we are fucked anyway

If screaming FIRE! in a full theater is not protected by free speech, why Marxist ideals that are way more damaging should be?

you're preaching to the choir, buddy.

Better dead than red

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I don't see how any European could be against something that is directly from our heritage. That is, unless you're not European.


You make a good point.
Free speech should not be the first priority, the first priority should be ridding your country, or your people of those that threaten either your country, people, or free speech itself (i.e your enemies). After that, you won't NEED to protect free speech, as nobody will be out to attack it.

This

Free speech protects you from the government, not me.

Just today I found an Antifa poster that was urging everyone to tear down any of the relatively nice 'Identity Evropa' group, whom the rabid communists saw as fascists.

I tore down their poster precisely because they were fringing on the rights of others to freely express themselves. If they persist to do that, which is inevitable since they cannot form a cogent argument without getting violent, then they will not be allowed to express themselves.

As for the simpering Marxists out there, it is enough to just show up and disagree with them. They get so butthurt and offended that they flip shit and freak out. It's like you are assaulting their very sense of reality. Do it enough and they fester in their hug boxes to no effect.

This system never gets rid of them, just forces them underground to fester, manipulate new institutions, and reappear elsewhere. PC Marxism in the 1990's returned in its current form. Like all parasites, they adapt to the systems they infest, using and fostering white guilt to get racial/ideological groups into places where they shouldn't belong.

I'm not sure how you can get rid of them based on those two qualities without ruining the free expression system itself. Maybe if there is an ideology or religion or idea or group that seeks to fundamentally destroy the concept of free expression like Marxism and so on, one has the responsibility to remove that group from that system. Not necessarily violently, but just keep them away from the vulnerable bits.

you are showing them to much respect. If it's not on their own private property, it is something they abandoned. Just watch out for razorblades and shit, you know antifa would poz you if they could.