Developments Sept. 27 Assad to AP: US airstrikes on Syrian troops were ‘intentional,’ lasted nearly 1 hour - youtu.be/s2GUfBppapA
Wyatt Rodriguez
Whats the deal with Turkey in Syria? Are they trying to annex some clay and get the band back together or what?
Julian Kelly
Getting ISIS away form the border is the official reason. As well as setting up a zone they can place refugees. But stopping the kurds from connecting their lands along the border is probably the main reason.
Chase Taylor
WHERE ARE THE LEOPARDS
Parker Gray
Can anybody give me a short summary of the current status in Syria?
William Nguyen
t. Gary Johnson
Evan Gray
If the rumors about the SAA going for an Al-Bab offensive are really true they need to read some Guderian. Seems completely pointless to to use up Tiger Forces to attack ISIS when they still can't stop the rebel advance in northern Hama. Actually taking Al-Bab itself is out of the question anyway.
Ethan Barnes
every side is exhausted enough that none can properly launch an offensive. Offensives that do happen nowadays have massive support form a foreign nation such as Iran, Russia, Turkey or America.
Ryan Nelson
Bless Assad.
The lion will prevail.
Charles Sanchez
So the war'll last a lot longer then? I was under the impression that once Assad takes Aleppo, it's pretty much GG because it frees up so many men and material.
Brody Anderson
It could last another 5 years. Aleppo is the last major city the Rebels have a major foothold in. When it falls. They will be screwed. That being said, ISIS and the Kurds control a lot of land that they will not hand over to the government without a fight.
Luis Foster
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Bentley Cox
Also, a fact that's being forgotten by a lot of people is that the Turks have actually invaded Syria and are continuing to push south. It's feasible that they may end up linking to Aleppo from the north, if that happens it'll drag out even longer.
Ethan Watson
its possible, but they haven't made much progress
Benjamin Hughes
Syrian militants smuggle ammo INSIDE a cow!
Ayden Richardson
Even if they don't, there's already talks about a "safe zone" being created in the Turkish controlled territory, which would end up meaning no end to the civil war without applying large amounts of insecticides to the Turk controlled area. That alone could bring in NATO. Realistically the SAA isn't in a shape where they could challenge the Turks either.
The idea of the "safe zone" has been around for years at this point along with Turkish intervention, but I suspect they didn't have the political capital to enact it until after the Army and government got purged in the coup attempt
Justin Cruz
don't you know they're the feminist communist islamic dream team goy :^^^^)
Jackson Bennett
ISIS holds lots of desert and they're getting their shit kicked in from the north and south. Iraq and Turkey are pwning them.
Oliver Thompson
The US better give them more firepower soon, it's looking bleak for them.
Brandon Brooks
US providing Al-Nusra with tanks and artillery. Self-declared Al-Qaeda affiliate group see the USA and Israel on their side in the fight in Syria, interview.
It's the 4th time they try to attack the same place (mainly because it's a shitty place to defend from that axis).
And every time they barely make it to the actual defensive perimeter.
Cameron Davis
New gains by FSA
Caleb Gomez
I'm off to Iraq later this year for a number of months and need to learn the basics of the language, where are good resources for learning Iraqi Arabic specifically? If I was to learn standard Arabic they would understand me, but I wouldn't understand them. What do people reckon will happen when IS is pushed out of Iraq (if it is)? Surely the Iraqi government can't be too happy about the Kurds trying to set up their own state? How do you guys think the battle of Mosul is going to turn out? Are the shia militias even going to bother taking orders from Baghdad once IS lose more control (if they do)?
Sorry for all the questions but finding unbiased analysis is difficult.
Ian Nguyen
not sure about the language but you could try asking on /r/iraq I believe they will focus on riding Syria of ISIS, possibly a sort of invasion. the current Iraqi leadership is on good terms with Assad and Iran. they already have an autonomous area, however after this I think they will demand everything short of complete independence and will get it too. long and most of the city will be destroyed, like Ramadi probably, the Iraq govt is really concerned about pr and never wants to risk civilian killing and such, which is why militias have not been allowed to participate in assaults on cities.
you could ask these questions on /r/syriancivilwar if you want.
Ryan Perez
You're off to fight WW3 m8.
Noah Clark
Just learn to say this in arabic. The locals will love you and your commanders will have no idea why.
You can hear how it's pronounced in just about any recent vid from Yemen.
Jose Young
YOU WILL NEVER GET TO SEE A LEOPARD
Jason Lopez
Thanks
Training role
Kek, got any links?
Ryan Gonzalez
I WILL WHEN THEY CRASH THROUGH THE GATES OF MOSCOW AT THE VERY LATEST
Elijah Wood
Just like those military advisors in Vietnam :^)
Benjamin Stewart
I'll be happy either way
Eli Lewis
How old are you?
James Anderson
20's
Lincoln Reyes
That's literally the hymn of the houthis in yemen. That's what they scream instead of Allah snack bar (The whole thing usually is: "Death to America, Death to Israel, Curse on the Jews"). That's what on their flag too…
Luis Parker
The turkish army is not the FSA…
Joshua Martinez
China is entering the war.
Caleb Cox
Holy shit, didn't even realise. I've not really read too much into the whole situation there, other than it's basically a proxy war with the Saudi's and Iran
Elijah Long
Lavrov openly saying the US are backing Nusra on the BBC.
Michael Wood
Turkish-backed FSA has advanced while ISIS has withdrawn
Joshua Green
Assad is winning right?
Hudson Reyes
Do yourself a favor and dont watch this Video, user.
Aiden Robinson
depends how you define winning, but his side is doing better then everyone else
Aaron Brown
Assad is assembling 10,000 troops for final assault on Aleppo
Everyone I know is against Assad for some reason, but he does not seem to be that bad of a guy. He's a president fighting for control of his country.
But Barrel bombs are killing people!
Hudson Gutierrez
Well it's not really a proxy war, the Houthis leads raids into KSA (ridiculously successful ones), and KSA proxies wouldn't last a week without direct intervention from the Saudi army.
Yemen war is the one to follow, it's pure surrealism. Everyone bitched about the KSA/US tank deal nobody commented on the fact they need to buy 200 tanks… to make up for lost ones.
To a bunch of goat herders in flip flops with bootleg copies of Tow and old soviet ATGM, the KSA alliance lost basically every type of top of the line western MBT (T-80U, M1A2, Leclerc, Leo 2, etc…), but also F-15, Apaches etc… you name it. Which the guys just end up burn/blow up because they can't use them anyway.
The Houthis are honorary Prussians at this point. Nearly every video has some crazy shit in it, or simply well coordinated moves, be they guerrilla attacks or light artillery barrage followed by infantry push, etc…
It's amazing really. It's basically the only "arabs" that can fight.
Look at 13:00, you've got a guy trying probably to toss grenade at them, and one other guy covering him with an old AT rifle they're easy 800m out, get the tire on the second shot.
1 old WWII rifle, one guys with grenades, 1 brand new heavy APC if the guys right below them had some grenades left… a bunch of KSA soldiers would be dead too.
And then they film the post they overran… and.. well yup. There are 3 of them. They routed a company of Saudi.
And one of them was filming!
Brayden Ward
This part is so hilarious
Can't wait so For the Saudis to die The problem us the rich Saudis are gonna flee to the west and I don't want these degenerate pigs here
Jaxon Brown
I guess you really do only need Twenty Good Men.
Jace Morales
How can old Soviet atgms take out new tanks like leopard 2s If this happens what advantage do we have left against sand niggles against their numerical advantage
Julian Cooper
drones
Sebastian Flores
It probably has something to do with all new American/Western weapons being intentionally sabotaged and weak in order to be set up to lose the next World War.
Jack Bailey
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Jace Jenkins
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Daniel Garcia
Explain? If Europe was in place of the Saudis we'd have a problem I doubt Germany could defend against this type of warfare without having the advantage of tanks the Muslim youth is just too big numerically
Gavin Evans
Holy fuck triple 4 at 4 of clock 44 44
Ian Phillips
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Robert Williams
1) Aiming. 2) Western MBT are massively overrated.
If you know what the fuck you're doing you can disable any tank with any AT weapon.
Tactics>technology.
John Brown
Case in point: How to ambush a convoy without explosives?
Answer: You dig a fucking pit.
Levi Robinson
Then what are we going to do against the Arabs and their birthrates
Jordan Howard
To be honest ?
Using chemicals ( or neutron bomb ) is the only way to deal with them
Isaiah Williams
Quite a bit of this has to do we experience. They've been fighting non-stop for 12 years. They've figured out how to use the sights on their weapons and not to stand out in the open firing full auto into the air. The Syrians and Iraqis are starting to understand this too, but we remember them from just a few years ago being useless. The Saudis are green as fuck and have no idea what they're doing so they get curb stomped every time.
David Morris
No, if the Houthis were fighting Germany they'd be getting crushed.
Germans know how to use their weapons and dont run away after the first shot is fired.
It's less that the Houthis are good, they're not really any better than SAA. It's that the Saudis are so bad.
Alexander White
There's not enough young German men 20-30 population is 10-15 million Half of that is women
Nathaniel Baker
What's the point of making up some silly scenario involving the Germans and Houthis? They're not the ones invading the EU.
It's unusual for me to say anything positive about sandniggers but that's just retarded. The Houthis wear flip flops and hide in caves and you actually compare them with the SAA?
As a fighting force with almost no resources, what they're currently doing versus the Saudis is impressive no matter how you look at it. It's not just about the Saudis lack of discipline and training. Experience and familiarity with the terrain makes a huge difference.
Juan Carter
this isn't the fucking eastern front, you can't use human waves without some kind of technology to back them up. just deploy some thermobarics, bunker busters, and drones then send in heavily armored mechanized infantry and armor. unless, of course, you want to win hearts and minds :DDDDD
Nathaniel Ward
you vastly overestimate the competence of the Saudi military
Adam Phillips
Because the Houthis really aren't any worse equipped than the Kurds/FSA/ISIS. Those guys have a few vehicles, but mostly are fighting with small arms and some ATGMs just like the Houthis.
Any of them would tear the Saudis apart just like the Houthis are.
Exactly.
NATO annihilated Iraq and Afghanistan, the kill ratios were 100+ to 1. Do you think any arab army would do better?
Even without massive air support and heavy weapons the NATO armies completely kick the ass of arabs through better training and tactics.
Just look up Gulf War 1. NATO lost 147 KIA to Iraq's ~30,000. Thats 200 to 1. Think about what an insane massacre that is.
Leo Carter
Damn Jews and globalists will pay for starting this war!
Jacob Mitchell
It's just dead jihadists man. The world is better off without them.
Daniel Cruz
you can blame the militant/jihadist for bringing his family there, but I don't see civilian deaths as positive
Jonathan Butler
Anyone have a website with an archive of IS videos? I like watching them to see their tactics. Most of the ones I use presently aren't very organised or don't show the full videos, just 'IS attacks this' or 'IS posts video about this' and some clips.
Jordan Russell
Yemenis are pure arab.
Jacob Perry
No wonder liberal media isn't telling sob stories about these rebels, they are very bad goys!
Matthew Anderson
The houthis have done some nice work in SA, but theyre not doing too hot in southern Yemen right now. Kike-backed forces manged to break the houthi siege of Taiz not too long ago. Theyre also creeping dangerously close to Sanaa
Well it's not like they're going to win. KSA will win eventually.
And of course since they lack basically everything they can't fight KSA in the flat areas of the country. Even KSA is not incompetent enough to get it's mech battalions swamped by a handful of infantry with a 25km line of sight.
But right now it's basically like the winter war lasted two full years, and Finland still fighting back the soviets…
Zachary Nguyen
KSA is dependent on oil. With the amount of mercenaries and internal projects, welfare it is simply not sustainable. Oil is too cheap after sauds tried to fuck with Russia and now they suffer for it. Their budget will be completely depleted within several years, roughly 3 I believe. To survive they need to do one of the following: somehow increase oil prices by cutting production (won't work, Iran and Russia will profit immensely from this), reduce welfare. They cannot do the latter because they are a welfare state. Even the lowest Sauds are millionaires and receive tons of money from the state. If they cut welfare, then it is only a matter of time before Sauds stop paying their slaves to do the work. Mercenaries will rebel. Shia minority will rebel (already egged on by Iran efforts). They simply do not have the resources or any mental, economical, physical capability to move into Yemen and destroy Houthis. It's more likely that Houthis will destroy Saudi Arabia by erosion and internal security compromise before Saudi Arabia will destroy Houthis.
Nathaniel Ortiz
It's a positive for us that aren't in the area. Less invaders.
Andrew Hughes
Not to mention once the king dies it's going all go to hell very quickly There's 3 claimants to the throne and they all more or less control private military forces due to their position in the government Ones internal security, one's army, another nat guard IIRC
Cooper Howard
this is kurdish made propaganda
if you really believe these are is fighters youre a retard
Owen Cruz
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Carter Green
Holy shit, I was wondering why the media wasn't reporting on this conflict at all. From what I've gathered, the Houthis are on the verge of taking a city in Saudi Arabia and are only a few km outside it right now, as I type. How the fuck hasn't this been given coverage? I'm very impressed by their progress, I was under the impression the Saudi military was relatively strong due to all the US technology they get for oil.
Ethan Mitchell
You'd have to explain their flag. It literally names the jew.
The jews have no real interest in Yemen so long as the Saudis are a buffer. They don't have anything of value. Since our news is just kike propaganda this isnt news.
Also, as someone else in this thread said, they wont get out of the mountains. They have the advantage there. Although I would laugh my ass off if they took Mecca.
Drudge running Syria as top story. Top link is western propaganda.
Note the pictures in the article all show injured children, several of the images look edited or less than real.
The west could have prevented all of these hurt children by never fucking over Syria in the first place. Frankly the article doesn't even need the images, they are out of place to the text
Because KSA an Qatar very smartly control EVERY news network from the arab speaking countries, and CNN and cie have agreements with them with crossed participation in medias holdings, despite those multiple channels being nothing less than say CCTV level of biased and control (IE worse than RT. It's Soviet era news). Freedom of press is a completely alien concept in the gulf, yet it's from those networks the MSM is getting it's news of the area.
As such there is a near total blackout, because there is no local source and no international reporters. The few bribes you can hear is about Saudi victories, hell they even pretend that the other side are the legitimate government of Yemen! You know the putschist elements (cough color revolution cough) backed by the local chapter of Al Qaeda? None of them have been elected or anything and they all resigned at the beginning of the mess… and they now fly the flag of South Yemen since they're full blown secessionists. But hey!
Lazyness of international MSM + money to buy off any competition created a perfect monopole of the medias in the gulf in the hands of a handful of Sheiks.
Leo Garcia
the important point is this is going to kill the saudis there is no doubt
Dominic Carter
The only place I've seen coverage is actually on left-wing and/or anti-war sites like the Guardian, which criticise Western governments for selling arms to SA. Even for me, the contrast between this and coverage of the six trillion children barrel bombed by Assad daily is shocking.
Funny how they picked the whitest looking injured girl in Syria to make famous
I doubt the Houthis will actually cross the border though I wish they would. The Saudis have been making gains slowly since they retook Aden correct me if I'm wrong but the war is so expensive for them that unless the oil price rebounds I can see them letting the Houthis continue in control of San'aa and the part of the country they control. On the other hand, I can see that not having an armed Iranian ally on their border might be one of their top priorities
Ryan Ortiz
after their state collapses nothing can stop the houthis
rich saudis are gonna flee to the west
Camden Reyes
Holy fuck grab it while it's hot!
They fucking SUNK an US landing catamaran (with a top of the line chinese coastal battery no less).
Jayden Bell
It's the prototype leased by UAE pretty much for the war apparently.
Joseph Edwards
Isn't it UAE? Don't think the US actually has admitted to any military in Yemen
Eli Wood
Yeah it is it's one of those weird "military assets to rent" thing, the USN was leasing it before UAE did for the war, which is why I was so surprised.
is mecca a shia or sunni thing? (im guessing sunni)
imagine if they blew up the gamecube
Colton Gonzalez
Yeah, pretty fucking bad.
Tyler Morales
important to all muslims
Parker Howard
Reading the article on the front page of Drudge, I almost want to make a Syria Kvetching Bingo image.
Judging by the tone of the article, it looks like the kike mercs and CIA are about to get BTFO.
GOOD LUCK ASSAD!
Brayden Hernandez
SAA advancing
Justin Flores
bruh…
Brayden Martinez
wew lad thats one sleek fancy futuristic looking ship they got there, a very expensive one at that, would be a shame if something happened to it. oh wait….
Cooper Cox
The houthis can't win, it's already a miracle they're handing the asymmetrical whopping of the century, a testament to how competent fighters they are (and how incompetent is KSA the supposedly 1st regional power of the middle east). But the fact is for every tank they bust, for every guy they kill KSA can throw 2 at them if not 10.
Sure KSA might stop (because of exterior factors, most notably their economy) but that's the only this end well for them, they tire them, stall them, bleed them long enough for something else to happen that will force KSA to say "fuck this" and GTFO.
Most likely scenario though is KSA grinding it's way through, forcing a resolution by re-splitting the country and basically leaving their new puppet South Yemen with all the oil and sea access in the country…
Xavier Brooks
Where's the crew?
Jason Rivera
Much better armies than the Sauds have been stumped by gorilla warfare. KSA is doomed.
Tyler Gutierrez
You have eyes don't you? This is what happens when you build warships with aluminum.
Xavier Richardson
There wasn't at least one guy on fire that jumped overboard which elicited some snackbars and some jazzy inshallah AM radio beats? Pretty disappointing.
Ethan Gonzalez
That IS the official reason
Caleb Foster
Yeah keep telling yourself that….
Jayden Rivera
Prussians were disciplined soldiers. Houthis are warriors.
A motivated warrior will always defeat a soldier 1v1 A team of warriors will always lose to a team of soldiers.
Saudi soldiers do not perform as a functional team as disciplined soldiers should.
Brandon Lee
your right. not sure why I said that.
Ethan Moore
IS capture Russian fuel drop meant for SAA in DeirEzzor
jihadi cucks are well known for being big fat liars with hollywood-tier skills in propaganda making, even if they've already been proven wrong in public. i'll take that with a bucket of salt
Sebastian Cox
its a video in the link, I think that would confirm it
Juan Murphy
making it a video doesn't mean it's contents are authentic, it could be staged just to give their jihadi grunts a morale boost while demoralizing the Army in DZ, a double purpose if you will.
Noah Morris
Aleppo
Jace Rivera
What are the main doctrinal downsides of Shia Islam and related branches like Alawites and Sufis? I've heard neocons say they want to initiate global apocalypse asap.
They seem vastly superior to the Sunnis and Salafists.
Parker Baker
gains made by Assad
Bentley Miller
That's the opposite.
Houthis are actually very well disciplined and coordinated hence my comparison. You can see them make swift well timed actions and offensives/counter-offensive with full coordination between support teams & maneuvering teams, etc… Which is why it's so amazing, they look like your classic snackbar yelling flip-flop wearing goat herders but they're surprisingly good soldiers.
Look at that, accurate artillery strike to rattle the Saudis, accurate mortar barrage on defensive position, immediate infantry push while the heavy artillery switch coordinates to hammer the pass into town from KSA line to block retreat and prevent reinforcement.
Not only do they perfectly understand how firearms works and they know how to use them (example: youtube.com/watch?v=F2HOHV7OMZo ) but they also are perfectly apt at actual warfare.
It's murder-hobo country.
Joseph Ramirez
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Samuel Bailey
I'm a gray man myself.
Owen Nguyen
stfu lad
Caleb Jackson
GEEEERMAN STEEEEL
Charles Diaz
More on the ship that got blown up by Yemeni Anti Ship Missile (SyrPer):
1) It seems the missile was a ground-to-ship guided missile based on the radar screen shown in the video and as other SyrPer shared here before. That, per se, should scare the hell out the GCC murderous countries.
2) This is no simple vessel, this is a highly sophisticated war vessel to support ground troops, it was used by the US Navy as their Navy Seals preferred Naval platform in many US driven wars . 3) UAE first admitted the vessel had a technical failure, then the video came out and that lie went down, then they said it had zero casualties, and the news of 22 KIA was reported by their coalition of idiots allies and many WIA, then came the news the ship was carrying medicines and wounded civilians, which was debunked with the type of explosions after hit.
What is also known, is that the vessel was busy ferrying Al Qaeda terrorists from SE Yemen to Aden, then southwest KSA etc…also ferrying many Hadi's soldiers and GCC mercs to different fronts, it was very important in the disastrous attempt by the coalition of idiots to create a new frontline in Midi-Harad [which failed], this very ship dropped hundreds of mercs and hardware/weapons over the border line in KSA to attack the Houthis guarding that frontline. The loss of this vessel will severely reduce the GCC ability of an effective littoral close support, and it joins the list of over 12 warships destroyed so far by the brave free Yemenis.
Kevin Wright
my bad, thought you were claiming either letter or outta space
Nicholas Parker
Do you think it has anything to do with them being descendants of the Nabataeans? The Caliphate's early expansions were because of Yemeni soldiers.
Robert Butler
Turks continuing to push towards Marea, in an attempt to encircle ISIS
Sebastian Perry
They do have a long reputation of being good soldiers (IIRC they basically fucked up the ottomans too, when they were at the peak of their power no less). It's possibly more a Gurkha kind of deal, warrior culture + mountains (tougher metabolism) + drugs (they all chew khat plants which is a type of natural soft amphetamine, which explain half of the fearlessness).
Most of the mudslime firmly believe that everything is up to God (hence the snackbaring) that you can fire the things how you want if God want's you to prevail it will works. And it breed retardation even faster than fucking first cousins, becasue you don't have to do anything. Even Saladin commented on that and regularly had to tell the imam and nutjobs to fuck off and do has he said instead of just snackbaring.
Now the yemenis it's more of a "there is the right way to do things", craftsmanship like, meaning even if they don't have a lot of high tech assets they need to understand how to use them and use them well, just like they would do for a rifle or a blade (it's proper dress etiquette to be armed in Yemen), they understand that warfare means coordination, etc… (means constant radio contact and on nearly all the video you hear radios chatter or the sound cut because of operational security).
Jack Ross
the biggest thing to me… is i remember that catamaran being claimed to have an extremely small radar footprint. that thing being scuttled in such a manner is yuge.
Luis Lewis
encircle ISIS, or provide relief and supply chains?
Thomas Carter
thats half the problem. The other half is that they believe they only take orders from their god it is their goat fucking god not ours so try not to refer to what they think simply as god, that lends creedence to them following the same god, which they do not and their god only, with the amendment that the generals were placed there by god. So they will follow general directives passed down by the general staff.. but the unit commander, the platoon leader… they are but men to them the sergeant? the same so they will go to where and do what is passed down by the general but any and all small unit tactics come down to pure luck if they are executed with any semblance of coordination.
Ryder Flores
its an abridged cut of a VICE documentary. look it up
David Cox
both?
Nicholas Kelly
well not much really,except what conservative islamic notions they have about diet and in some cases clothing. even their "terrorist" (read anti-western) organisations dont go alahsnackbar mode anymore since the big lebanese war. theyre the ones when people talk about "muslims not all being that bad". as you can guess over 80% of muslims are sunni, and the rest is the based ones. as for the apocalypse thing, yeah they want a judgement day. that is if youre a zionist.
Michael Ross
Any of you regulars on the 4chan general?
James Martinez
I lurk on occasion, but its mostly lame /int/ shitposting flags killed the place
the subreddit is better for getting updates imo
Isaiah Moore
roach meme stopped being funny a long time ago
turks are good people theres a reason they conquered the whole middle east and ruled it for 800 years
Henry Perez
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Gabriel Ortiz
Funny, they are neither good, nor people
Kevin Adams
give credit where credit is due they conquered and ruled the middle east and big parts of asia for centuries they are great warriors
Brody Cook
They enslaved Balkan children to fight for them, you fucking faggot. Eat shit Mehmet.
Zachary Morris
they made their most important conquests long before that
and they werent even the most important part of their army
James Miller
explain to me, if the balkan children are responsible for their victories, how did they get enslaved by the inferior people?
Adam Ramirez
please dont do this, almost as cringy as the "muh 2 million Europeans enslaved by arabs" crying The past is the past. What men did before the era of humanism shouldn't matter
Hunter Mitchell
not mentioning that those "enslaved" had a very good life in the ottoman empire and climbed up to the highest ranks
Sebastian Richardson
Who the fuck invited the midf? Piss off you inbreds.
Jeremiah Walker
That's JUST what they only MERELY claimed, but was never proven (or did they, just that they purposefully never told anyone about it?) People actually believed them due to the miraculous power of ((((BRAND MARKETING))))
The video uploaded by the hooters has demonstrated that to be simply untrue as fuck.
Justin Brooks
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Isaiah Myers
It's true in a sense. If you compare it to the average warship all made or designed in the 80's, those have maybe half or a quarter of the footprint of an LCAC.
Except since the 80's there was a [sarcasm]tiny bit of a jump in electronics [/sarcasm].
The ship footprint IS much more smaller, but the fact is that the shitty radar on the shitty Iranian clone of the Chinese light coastal defense system has a 10 time more powerful radar and a 10 000 better computer to analyses it's data than whatever heavy duty coastal defense system had.
Which is why stealth is shit.
Camden Howard
you piss off anglo kike
Jaxon Anderson
Stop derailing the thread you fucking faggot, make your own thread for your pissing contests.
Isaiah Richardson
just accep the truth you fucking faggot
you pollacks have the greatest amount of delusion, you claim to argue based on facts, but when it doesnt suit your inferiority complex you resort to the same weak tactics all the time
Josiah Stewart
not mentioning the fact that you american muds have no claim to european history
Posing as a non-political solidarity organization, the Syria Campaign leverages local partners and media contacts to push the U.S. into toppling another Middle Eastern government.
Blake James
Turks are truly the butt of every joke.
Camden King
Go hide behind some trees jew. We will find you.
Cooper Bell
Filtered.
Christopher Davis
this. and every /sg/ there ends up in shitflinging between russians and ukrainians
Excuse my ignorance, the VP debate made the Aleppo siege out to be a civilian slaughter by Russia and Syria. I know it's a major jihadi stronghold, but what exactly are we looking at here in terms of civilian casualties?
Elijah Gutierrez
govt told civilians there to get out or risk getting bombed. Those that stayed (cause they probably have jihadist sympathies) are dying from bombs, lately in large numbers
Note that the split happens over Jund Al Asqsa saying that Jabhat Fateh al Sham (the "nice" rebels that hold east Allepo) are working with ISIS from the start.
James Walker
>>>Holla Forums >>>/reddit/
Arent 'Jabhat Fateh al Sham' just a renamed Al-Nusra?
Robert Bell
the infighting has reportedly stopped, Jund Al Asqsa has merged with al Sham
Isaac Parker
SAA making rapid advances
Ayden Martin
Catchy
William Cruz
AP FACT CHECK: Trump wrong that Assad fights IS
DONALD TRUMP: "I don't like Assad at all. But Assad is killing ISIS. Russia is killing ISIS."
THE FACTS: Not true. Syria's President Bashar Assad considers the Islamic State group to be among numerous "terrorist" groups that threaten his government, but his military is not fighting them. It is focused on combatting Syrian opposition groups, some of which are supported by the United States. The fight against the Islamic State militants is being waged by a U.S.-led coalition, with help from Turkey, by training, advising and equipping Syrian Arab and Kurdish fighters. While Moscow asserts that it is fighting the Islamic State extremists in Syria, the vast majority of its airstrikes have targeted opposition groups threatening the Assad government.
air drops, lots and lots of air drops. Mostly from Russia
Evan Rogers
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David Harris
Some very impressive territorial gains today as the entirety of northern rebel controlled Aleppo has been liberated, the SAA really seems to be getting its shit together
Alexander Morris
Aren't the rebels considering leaving Aleppo?
Zachary Clark
Didn't a bunch of rebels surrender their heavy weapons recently?
Christopher Torres
Yes, that was part of the amnesty Assad offered for any militants/civilians that want to surrender
Lincoln Moore
I have a question. Why are the shi'ites always the good guys in these mid-east conflicts. Iraq, majority Shia, Iran, majority Shia, the YRC, Shi'ites, Syrian government, mostly Alawites. Then look at the bad guys: KSA, Sunni, ISIS, Sunni, Al-Qaeda, Sunni, Taliban, Sunni, Kurds, Sunni, Turks, Sunni. The only good Sunni was Gaddafi and he went astray from the typical Arab nationalism and made something one of a kind.
Robert Foster
kek
Ethan Young
shia was a reformed version of islam that the persians created to fit more in with their intellect
sunni is practiced by dark skinned garbage and shia is practiced by the lighter skins in the region (iranians, alawites, levantine arabs, etc)
Lucas Jackson
Wahhabists are Sunni, thats why. That being said, its not so black and white. there are good kurdish groups here and there. (and Im not even sure if I would call the taliban bad, but thats another story.)
Easton Collins
That's what I was leaning on thank you friend.
Yes the Yazidis are good Kurds but the Kurds known as Kurds are the bad group like how most Turkic people are friendly Mongols allied with Russia. As for the Taliban I have heard very little coverage of their good as a friend told me that they were a stabilization force in Afghanistan (which is probably why 9/11 was pinned on Bin Laden and Afghan being an independent country) so I would like to hear this story.
Ayden Collins
"moderate rebels" on suicide watch
7 hours ago: @MuradGazdiev
Eli Fisher
for the Taliban, well for years they fought gommies despite being vastly outnumbered. After the soviet withdraw, degenerate warlords took over, the taliban was a popular movement which got rid of them. There is a famous story that goes something like this, two warloards who wanted to fight each other over a young boy (for sex). The people brought the Taliban over to sort the matter out. They promptly executed both warlords and returned the boy to his family.
Joseph Watson
Historically they're not but all of the secular Sunni leaders have been deposed, the Iran-Iraq war was largely a reaction to radical Shia Islamism and an attempt to prevent the Iranian revolution from spreading to Iraq. Shiites in Iraq post 2003 were also largely the perpetrators of ethnic cleansing and the Mahdi army in particular wiped many areas completely out of Sunnis even when they posed no threat.
Saddam and Nasser were pretty based as well
this, posting documents about kurds
Camden Wright
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Jason Johnson
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Easton Russell
good to have someone here who is not an idiot
also about shia, they aren't even the good guys today
this is just a bias, coming from pols love for iran/hezbollahs hate for israel
from an objective viewpoint they are as worse as the worst sunni groups
Jordan Lopez
What he said is largely correct although there are dark skinned Shias as well considering many are Pajeets/Pakis or mixed with Arabs
Julian Baker
no it is not largely correct
shiism was created to bind the qizilbash who were the majority of the persian army elite and warriors to persia
qizilbash are oguz turkmen ottomans are oguz turkmen
notice something? same people
Zachary Ortiz
Not a fanboy of the Shiites by any means but in most of the current conflicts they are much better than most of the Sunni groups opposing them, especially Syria.
The Oguz/Alevis were part of the western Persian empire and were never a significant proportion of its population, nor do they have much to do with the ethnic composition of Shiites today. The Ottoman empire has never been majority Turkmen for that matter as well and has always been bastardized.
Samuel Taylor
american education³
24% significant enough for you?
Owen Parker
the only bastard mongrel is you anglo mud american
Aiden Morales
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Nolan Morris
The royalty is hardly relevant when the discussion is about the average Shia.
This, turkroach detected
Jaxon Peterson
I think we all get that, especially now that we realize Saddam was more or less a force for good in the region at the final tally, but this entire board has evolved to become like Trump.
Your enemies attack you? —They're pieces of shit, worse than human garbage.
Your enemies do what you want them to (such as save Syria from zog)? —They're upstanding crusaders of justice and peace.
Your enemies apologize and fall in line? —no hard feelings for that plane (even though we call you turkroach still) hey let's go kill some ISIS and build a pipeline!
pic somewhat related.
Gavin Peterson
Kek, crawl outta here Turkroach
Wyatt Robinson
Hi Chaim 5 shekels have been deposited to your bank account
Chase Young
can we leave this on 4chan? lets not drag this forced meme over here.
Carter Carter
I want Saddam Hussein back
I pledge my life and soul for you Saddam. Please just come back
Luis Phillips
SLAY THE TURK DRAG HIM FROM HIS HOLE RESTORE THE CITY THAT WAS LOST
Adam Rodriguez
he was pretty based
Austin Campbell
US funded shiite militia cannibalizes an ISIS soldier
Landon Smith
I wouldn't be so sure, I mean the guy was a full ally of the US who made liberal use of chemical weapons against Iran with the blessing of the US. Maybe if Iran had won that war they wouldn't have been kiked then turned into an ISIS safe heaven?
Jason Phillips
You mean sunni? I'm pretty sure the US does not support any shiite entity.
Brody Martinez
US supports Iraq military (shia)
Brayden Morgan
Am i supposed to give a fuck about an isis soldier?
Jace Smith
Yes they were but they identified with the people of Arab nations and the Ba'athist though which is majority while Gaddafi took things more religiously.
Noah Robinson
Current situation in Iraq
Hudson Gonzalez
West Ghouta
Brody Barnes
Either newfags or Turkroach infestation
Luke Morris
Make low effort turkpost, get low effort shitpost, cunt.
Adrian Sanchez
He was funded by the US because Iran was a greater threat and Iraq didn't have intention to attack anyone, Iraq attacking Iran first was a preemptive strike. As for the socialist part Ba'athism is more of a bastard child of nazism and communism, mostly nazism.
Xavier Gomez
arab Baath socialism is different, its more like fascism is many ways. You really need some form of socialism in ultra-religious places like the mid east unfortunately. Israel supported both sides, Iran and Iraq during the war Only because Iran was the enemy.
Bentley Garcia
le socialism is automatically bad meme
Ian Rodriguez
GOOD LUCK ASSAD! FIGHT ON, WE NEED YOU TO WIN.
Christian Bailey
Most Israeli support went to Iran ironically enough, Iraq did receive some support but only early in the Iran-Iraq war. Also Saddam was the only Arab leader to actually attack Israel itself, and when Egypt complained about Saddam only launching 39 missiles he challenged any other leader to launch 40
Gavin Jackson
Victory is near, Aleppo is going to fall soon. That's why the MSM are bitching so loud about muh civilians.
Hunter King
Related, video of Iraqi SCUD warheads hitting Israel and Saudi Arabia in 91
Adam Cooper
Also It couldn't be more fucking ironic, especially since Jews are Turks who came from the Khazar Empire.
As far as I know and correct me if I'm wrong but Iran saw the game Israel was playing and told them to fuck off and haven't been on good terms after that, they came close to be ironic Jew puppets.
Thomas Barnes
After the end of the war, sure, but Israeli support to Iran was much more extensive than to Iraq and Israel provided US aircraft parts along with TOW missiles to Iran. Iraq also could much more easily purchase arms on the open market and didn't really need Israeli assistance, although they did accept some through Israeli from the US in 81-82, the Iranians continued to receive Israeli support nearly to the end of the war in 87. For the most part, neither Iraq nor Iran were pro-Israel at the time and were far from becoming Jew puppets in any circumstance.
Alexander Hughes
pls do your research before spouting nonsense
Thomas Barnes
I'm aware SyAAF have been doing airdrops. Since the russian intervention, Russia has sort of taken over that role so SyAAF can be used elsewhere.
Xavier Morris
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Angel Garcia
first of all, its a terrorist, so he deserved it, just as the moderate terrorists in syria deserve getting bombed. second of all, its iraqi army, in which a large part of sunnis are too. third, theyre not hezbollah or iranian militias, which youre trying to imply, so too bad for you, shlomo
Grayson Flores
maybe because they deemed iran as a bigger threat, just like how france and the UK let hitler build up power because they counted on him attacking the USSR (which hilariously backfired for france and UK)
Kevin Price
The yids are greedy and the Arabs can't function without a totalitarian government. Gotcha
Mystery solved, it's newfags.
Aaron Taylor
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Jaxson Rodriguez
Yes they are more dangerous after a revolution you fucking retard, they had plans to make a giant Islamic state and they had the money from the previous government, like the communists in Russia wanted to make a Bolshevik European state, Khomeini literally said ending the 8-Year War was worse than drinking poison.
Xavier Morales
Saddam was a Sunni, and he killed both radical Shi'a and Sunni.
Kayden Green
Not anymore. The US built Iraqi army was largely sunni, then it's entire sunny divisions joined IS…
Currently the Iraqi forces are mainly made of Badr units (Iranian of Iraqi descent that had fled the country under Saddam), Shia local militias and non-religious or nationalist shia/sunni (which are a minority but make most of what's left of the actual "regular" army, the one with tanks, helicopters and shit), but most of the infantry engaged is Shia militias, when not Iranian irregulars.
All the generals and people in power are overwhelming shia.
Isaiah Lee
National Socialism never existed, it something the kikes made up, fucking dumb ass.
Nathaniel Long
Rebels are currently attempting to take Dabiq, a very well defended holy city to ISIS.
Elijah Perry
It's where the final battle between the Romans and Muslims is supposed to happen, isn't it? maybe it will keke
Tyler Ortiz
Ah yes, we're so lucky we had Saddam to stop the evil Iranians from making Mesopotamia great again. Things are much better now with secular socialists in charge of the region!
Jack Myers
i guess youre an anarcho-statist liberal conservative then
Wyatt Collins
well baath is better than caliphate we see today as a direct result of western incursions isnt it?
Joshua Ramirez
Looks like it's going to be easy too. The real question is what comes next? Are the Turkroaches and their minions headed to Aleppo proper?
Nathaniel Perry
FUCK Does Israeli Secret Intelligence Service have nukes?
Connor Reyes
Israels military does, but they are American nukes so using them is out of question.
Samuel Moore
MULTIPLE REPORTS THE BATTLE FOR MOSUL HAS BEGUN
This is really big if true, may be one of the largest battles in the entire mid east conflict. We're talking Aleppo big. Hell, this may even need its own thread.
I'll post more updates when I receive more info.
Brayden White
Dabiq area was fully captured by FSA earlier today btw
Nicholas Peterson
On the other hand, maybe the US/Russia war will kick off and the Mussies will have the last laugh
Wyatt Reed
keep in mind, Dabiq is now being held by a different group of Islamist not too different from ISIS, so the prophesy could still come true
Andrew Robinson
NO
Dominic Diaz
No they won't. Maybe if something world shattering happens, that brings that filth down to our level and in our reach. But so long as a the current system stays the same, so long as things remain as they are right now, they will walk away from all of this. Justice will not come.
It is mostly us ringing our fists at a computer screen. Less than a month to go and so much stands in our way. Corruption lives here, and corruption rules.
Charles Williams
Last I heard, Israel has about 200 nukes. They may actually make them. They also have some from us. I also heard rumors that their nukes are theirs to control. They can use them if they feel the need to.
There is nothing we can do except nuke them back or give them a "stern-talking-to". I will let you figure out which is more likely to happen.
No it won't IS has evacuated Mosul, in big convoys (the Iraqi light air force hit one… CNN BBC and cunts all said it was the USAF, despite the footage showing Mi-28 and hinds…) All those jihadis are being redeployed in Syria unhindered (to Deir e Zor most likely), meanwhile the US will say their operation is a great and quick success (and compare it to the slug of Aleppo's).
Sure it's RT but the same thing happened in Fallujah, gigantic convoys were formed and the USAF (or any of the other NATO country supposedly there to bomb jihadi, UK, France) gave dead air to the Iraqi army (and Iraqi light aviation had to scramble everything they had that's the vid… And then when the footage started to show up the MSM gloriously sang hymns to the USAF and praised Obama…)
Time will tell whether they were right or not hence the bet. But at this point it's fairly obvious who's working with whom.
John Clark
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Adam Reyes
i have a question, if they have the rebels cut off in Aleppo, why isn't the city falling? Haven't they been surrounded and without supplies for a while now?
Aiden Myers
They grow weaker every day. That's why (((we))) set up "civilian-aide" convoys and why Obongo has such a hard on for military action over Aleppo, even with every General telling him how fucking stupid he is.
Dominic Cook
we'll need a source for that
James Powell
the video. besides, US striking a vital ISIS force is laughably unlikely. some abandoned sheds or a truck maybe, just for the media coverage, but strategic targets and large forces? who the hell do you think is going to fight syrian forces as an US proxy if they wipe them out?
Noah Green
That's the most "heartless" ISIS solider I've seen yet!
DAILY REMINDER THAT THE TAKEBACK OF MOSUL IS A FALSE FLAG TO PUSH REBELS BACK INTO SYRIA TO HELP WITH ALEPPO
Christian Cox
Except that the Iraqi army, Iran, Russia and Assad are all on the same side.
Jason Taylor
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Thomas Harris
there really inst a way for ISIS in Mosul to get to Syria. They would have to go miles through open desert which is where the can be attacked by airstrikes easily.
Kevin Gomez
""If you kill your enemies, they win" You've got no idea what you are talking about, do you?
Levi Jenkins
IS seems to be in fill retreat from outer villages.
Reports of as many as 80,000 Iraqi, Pesh, etc involved in the attack.
It'll be interesting to see what happens when they hit Mosul proper.
Carter Cruz
youre joking right?
Dominic Butler
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Easton Mitchell
Are they moving to cut off the route west first?
Charles Robinson
I think they want them to go out into the desert.That way planes and drones can take them out. This is what happened after Fallujah was recaptured. Urban warfare is a bitch which the Iraq army wants to avoid
Jayden Stewart
Muhammadan spotted and reported.
Camden Johnson
Makes sense I suppose, easier for the Iraqis if they flee into Syria and are no longer their problem.
Aaron Long
there really isn't an easy way for Mosul-based ISIS to make its way to Syria at this point, and considering Iraq govt is on the same side as Assad, I doubt they would do something like that
massive fighting going on between Kurds and Rebels. Al Bab offensive may get put on hold.
Carson Bailey
saudnigger spotted
Caleb Morris
not at all. its what the turks need, a complete isolation of kurds from any other coalition of forces, and with the IS collapsng, kurds trying to link up east and west territories to even survive and the new SAA offensives Al Bab is as important as ever. The FSA and other terrorists will be concerned with both fighting kurds and syrians to try and divert attention from aleppo. And with ISIS reinforcements coming from Iraq time is running out. this is the semifinals of the RACE TO AL BAB
Caleb Ward
Is this even news by this point.
Carter Ortiz
Stop reading kikepedia, user. FSA is not a unified force and it never was, ever. FSA was always tribes, foreign jihadists, CIA controlled opposition like Al-Nusra (formerly al Qaeda) and Saudi wahhabist factions. Just look at how often they kill themselves to the point where some of their pockets have collapsed due to infighting. FSA is an umbrella term to make opposition look big and exclude any faction that stops to play ball.
dont think of these threads just as a news source. its also good for mass dumping solid articles that can be spread on other social media
Jeremiah Diaz
i know that. but the main source of power and command comes from either turkey, saudi arabia or US/israel. in the coming months we will see a mild schism in the terrorist collective with one part flanking to turkey and other to the US. tough keep in mind that US has far less authority over its mercenaries and terrorists than turkey.
Juan Clark
current situation in N. Aleppo
Nicholas Bennett
ISIS Choosing Suicide Bombers In Mosul
Nicholas Ward
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Gabriel Edwards
to be honest i think turkey and its terrorist bandwagon will take alBab first. the kurds are in a shit situation and are focusing on merely keeping the turk forces at bay on their own areas, while the syrians are taking the opportunity to finish of aleppo and areas around damascus, not to menation having to deal with the terrorist offensive in latakia and incoming ISIS forces from gthe south with US blessing.
going a bit further anyone would know that ISIS forces in the north are desertin en masse at the turk advance, and the turks just grant them amnesty and let them join their terrorist forces. the only question is when will turkey drop spaghetti and have their terrorist "friends" launch an offensive on the syrian forces. the only one on the turk side worried about kurds is the turk themselves, the rest of terrorists, mercenaries, jihadists and others are just waiting to get back at the syrian army after aleppo
SDF defenses in Afrin as 3 earth walls already built, joining previous defenses to prevent / resist possible Turkey offensive.
If this happens I'm praying there will be some drones flying around to film this.
Daniel Edwards
fighting intensified on the slopes of Jabal Thardah, several F-16s from the OIR coalition arrived in Deir-ez-Zor airspace to launch attacks on IS targets. Jets descended on Jabal Thardah and accidentally struck SAA positions, killing 80 soldiers and inadvertently clearing the way for IS infantry to capture the mountain.
yank-tier
Joshua Hernandez
so there was a massive isis uprising in Kirkuk and they claim they took half the city.
Ethan Thompson
then check this out
15 women killed and another 50 wounded in US airstrike that targeted a Shia place of worship in Kirkuk
so is the majority of them going to leave? who is staying in mosul?
Cameron Gutierrez
isis uprising aka isis that shit their pants and try to act like they never were in isis to begin with
Leo Thomas
ISIS now in control of half the city
Asher Adams
IS militants hanged, dumped, crushed by cinderblock and dragged by cars in Kirkuk
Mason Sanchez
fucking unreal
Austin Adams
It's not unreal if they've disarmed the citizens.
Luis Diaz
it is retard you want to claim you expected this? then you must have been smarter than the peshmerga themselves and no you didnt just to get this out of tge way before you claim to as autistic retards lile you akways claim to
go jerk of to your favorite anime neckbeard
Hunter Ross
Sufi mudslime here steppin' in late to point out we're not Shia or Sunni, they both think we're heretics and ISIS keeps blowing up our shrines so we're all kinds of fucked
Kevin Mitchell
Why not try atheism or Orthodoxy? You'll like bacon, infidel!
Daniel Gray
Islam in general is shit, kill yourself sand nigger.
Brayden Carter
not that user, but its not like sufis are going around blowing themselves up or beheading people.
Carson Stewart
kill yourself fat greasy mulattojew burger
Colton Roberts
Do you want to blow this up?
yes/no
Grayson Gray
Sand nigger detected.
Alexander Scott
tell me, whats wrong with muslims who stay where they are, don't blow themselves up, and try to improve their land/people/country? How does their existence threaten you?
Ian Brooks
That's fucking insane.
Daniel Anderson
Because Muslims (and jews ofc) throughout history have fucked up Europe. The "innocent muslims" still follow the same dogma that all the other muslims follow. All semites should be purged.
Matthew Jackson
You know who have fucked up europe throughout history more than muslims? other Europeans. and I dont mean that in a bad way either. Every nation of people of history has tried to fuck up their competition or neighbors. that's just part of human nature.
Also, trying to settle historical grievances, or trying to "get even" is not a good world outlook (and its something SJWs do all the time I might add)
Adam Stewart
Europe didn't fuck itself up more than the muslims though, and they're still going at it. Maybe if you're a cuck. Muslims should either give up on their religion and teachings or be purged tbh.
Landon Anderson
Mosul Offensive put on hold due to Kirkuk fighting
Expect things to slow down for the time being.
Ian Jackson
Is it true that syria.liveuamap.com is run by Soros minions?
John Perez
its run by some Ukrainians who are pretty anti-Russian
a good thing about this is that assad victories are only shaded red when they are 100% verified so when you see red on the map you can be sure its govt controlled.
Colton Sanchez
Thank you ISIS you were starting to disappoint me I dont want King Nigger to go out with the media proclaiming his victory over ISIS
Juan Cox
what is going to happen when Erdogan's Euphrates Shield offensive meets with Assad? are they trying to break the "siege" on Aleppo?
erdogan is the absolute madman.
Christian Johnson
Are you a Christian?
Juan Collins
I'm not sure, Obama/West/Nato want Rebels to focus on ISIS. Erdogan wants Rebels to focus on Kurds. While the rebels themselves want to focus on Assad forces. It will be interesting, but I imagine it will mostly be skirmishes. SAA lines of defense in the Aleppo area are very strong.
Hudson Anderson
No, of course not. The Prophet (peace be upon him) said, "God hath treasuries beneath the Throne, the keys whereof are the tongues of poets." Art should be cherished, not destroyed, even if it is made by practitioners of other faiths.The nature of the immaterial Almighty has little to do with the nature of physical beauty; there is no reason to tarnish the latter in the name of the former.
We both worship the deity that Abraham did, user, even if in our own ways. I would recommend reading on Abd al-Qadir ibn Muhyiddin's sheltering of the Christians in Damascus (appropriate, given the Syrian conflict occurring now) for an idea on how Sufis aspire to interact with other faiths.
Nathaniel Bennett
Turks have supposedly pissed off the Syrian military after they began airstrikes on Kurdish positions near Aleppo.
Talk has been going around that the Turkish military intends on marching on Aleppo.
Josiah Walker
we'll see. I doubt the turks would attack gov forces directly though. not for the time being anyway.
Samuel Young
Sufis are the only Muslims I can respect.
Aiden Jones
According to a guy on twitter,
BREAKING: Turkish army force with 9 tanks entered #Idleb from Hatay took positions overlooking YPG lines in Afrin Kurdish canton
If this is true its a big deal. I'll look more into this.
Lincoln Gonzalez
yes the majority will leave, most of them know Iraq is a sinking ship by now. But they also know that the US will be happy to escort and fund them in syria, which is the main goal of the US in Iraq now. Push the out, make them fight in syria. not to mention housands of captured ISIS terrorists will be offered "amnesty" of they join "rebel" groups in syria. only the most die-hard ISIS fanatics and local jihadists will try to stand their ground in Mosul.
as cynical as it sounds, its best for ISIS to remain powerful and fighting in Iraq as long as possible. Syria isnt ready for the mass terrorist offensive from the south. the longer Mosul is beseiged, the longer syria has to prepare their defenses.
Kevin Smith
thats how the jews got you burgers to die for shekels goy
Nicholas Wilson
when did shias fuck up europe? and why would you care about europe? the US is working 24/7 with GLADIO style terrorist attacks there
Christopher White
Mosul Livestream going on.
Tyler Barnes
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John Baker
this just wanted a reason to post this
Jose Ross
Too bad that your faith in general is controlled by rapacious and decadent desert warlords.
Did the British Empire/Zionists install the Saudi clan to power? Any details?
Matthew Gray
guacmerrican kike shitbowl detected
Gabriel Martinez
well the british did by making them their proxy for colonising the region because of oil, traderouts and other crap. Without the british the sauds would remain just another ragtag sandcrwaling tribe in the sinai desert
Connor Lewis
Not true, they just paid the Sauds not to interfere with the naval bases in Kuwait and the UAE. Britain fought against Saud when he tried to invade Jordan. Oil wasn't discovered in large amounts until after the yanks took over
Henry Moore
So they did the same as in Uganda, Sudan and Nigeria.
Austin Baker
All out war between the Turk-mercs and kurdroaches when? Its time for a happening
Adam Phillips
Syrian Army says : the presence of Turkish troops in Syria, is occupation, and will be dealt with in every ways possible
Cooper Stewart
Big battle happening now between SDF in Sheikh Issa and Turkey/FSAQ in Marea. Turkish military tanks in Marea directly involved.
FSA is getting ready for an offensive to "break" the siege from Aleppo, they are massing troops on the western part of the city.
I hope the SDF holds the line.
Adrian Myers
Given how relations have improved a lot between russia and turkey. How likely is it that turkey will have a better relationship with assad? I cant see turkey being too pleased with the arming and working with kurds from american "allies". Im hoping they wont want to fight assad as the SDF really dont need this shit.
Austin Gutierrez
Turkey's playing both sides right now At the end of the day they're playing for themselves alone, remember, Turkey wants to be the big fish in the middle east, in opposition to both Iran and the Israel/Saudi faction
so plainclothes Turkish troops
David Long
Unlikely. Assad is pissed that Turkey is in Syria in the first place, not to mention they are actively aiding his enemies. Syria warned yesterday that they would should down any Turkish jets entering their airspace in the future (they already downed one in 2012).
On a diplomatic level Russia appears to be playing nicely with Turkey atm, so how scenarios like turn out should show their strategy a little better (i.e. if the FSA breaks through and Russia doesn't attack the corridor Assad may have to start looking over his shoulder.) Crazy speculation: If Russia is indeed moving towards a military alliance with Turkey they could dump Assad and allow Erdogan to secure their interests in Syria while at the same time flipping a NATO member. That alliance could redraw the map in the middle east in no time. Add in Iran and/or China in some scenarios and East vs West looks a lot different.
David Morris
I highly doubt it; Assad is riding high at the moment and is completely committed to Russia whilst Turkey is unreliable and very capable of flipping back to the West. Furthermore, Assad is also an Iranian ally and so the Russians would be jeopardizing their relationship with Iran. It makes no strategic sense imo.
Luis Garcia
Fuck, russia dumping assad for turkey is a great what if scenario to think about.
Are russia aiding SDF while they fight the FSA?
Ive always considered turkeys interest solely in terms of the kurds and stopping them gaining autonomy. I never thought they might be going into it with a possible land grab in mind. Considering turkeys geographical position and the US's desire for a pipeline from the middle east to undermine europes dependance on russian oil/natural gas. Im not liking assads odds as russia becoming good friends would be a big win win for both turkey and russia.
Matthew Bennett
no, they did in the past though
Brandon Robinson
SDF holding strong
Its infuriating that a sovereign nation can be attacked like this and noone helps.
Jayden Jenkins
Kirkuk reportedly back under govt control
Jacob Moore
You numbnuts forgot the turks are still in bed with the jihadists, not realizing Russia, Syria and co. would never trust them with holding their end of the deal Speculating about Russia siding with turkey over Syria is simply fucking stupid SHAME SHAME
Meanwhile in Yemen:
Islamic World News [email protected]/* */_Mirza 7h
The deployment of Khoulan Septo Clans to Saudi border:
The Khoulan Septo Ethnic Clans who have remained neutral from the inception of war on Yemen, refusing to side with Hadi or Ansarullah, a neutrality so binding that even the mere fact that one of their ilks hailing from Aal Al-Roushaan was serving in the capacity of interior minister in Hadi’s government did not compel to side with Hadi, nor did it persuade them to join forces with Ansarullah. However, Sanaa was wrought with a disaster that would pivot the Khoulan warriors, who are known for their courage, smarts and fighting spirit, to the folds of Ansarullah. The bombing of the funeral ceremony of the father of interior minister and the chieftain of Aal Al-Roushan and the killing of hundreds of people who were paying their respects has galvanized these seven clans in dramatic ways.
Furthermore, the council of Khoulan clans have been quoted as saying, “they will call a meeting to discuss deployment of their warriors to the Saudi border to fight the invading forces of Saudi Arabia. Off course, we have been hearing conflicting reports about that eventuality . Yet most news reports coming out of Yemen indicate the unanimous decisions of these clans to deploy their warriors to Saudi borders. Yemen analysts believe the involvement of Khoulan clans will turn the tide in favor of Ansarullah , enabling them to prevail triumphant.
One more thing, The Saudi airstrike on the funeral is in fact, a joint US-UK operation in taking out Yemeni Leaders/Reps. and other important figures from various tribes, including the very neutral Khoulan Sept Tribes of Yemen (i.e. The saudis and their western mercs and jihadi scums are fucked)
Colton Bell
Turkey is the Italy of this conflict. I think Erdogan has given up on removing Assad since Kurdistan is becoming a more real possibility by the day. At least with Assad not removed, there won't be Syrian operatives fucking around within his borders. If Assad is removed or has his power so undermined that the Kurds gain autonomy, then it becomes a real problem for Erdogan's own power. He's already made the PKK an enemy and he can't go back on that now.
Also he has to realize that strong arm leaders like him are becoming a rare species in the area. You think there won't be another democratic revolution in Turkey if Syria is to fall? Erdogan has no reason to trust Israel/Saudi Arabia/the US.
Bentley Fisher
turkey will drop sphagetti when their dogs start fighting assad again. after that turkey will either have to pick a fight with syria and russia, or bail on the terrorists, which means they lose a major ally against the kurds. the kurds however are the last hope of the US. its a shitstorm in syria
Ryan Wright
4th or 5th day of fighting. front still looks the same
Bentley Carter
meanwhile on Turkish television
Bentley Brooks
Context? Was this on national kebab-tv? Truly even the roaches cant be this retarded and megalomaniacal
Benjamin Mitchell
yes, one of the main news channels
Nolan Howard
They really think they've taken Mosul? I guess roaches really do dream.
Julian Perez
Aren't you more concerned about the EU flag behind "TV" in top left corner?
Nicholas Gutierrez
Mosul as of now
Colton Nguyen
ISIL captured BTR-4 from Iraqi forces near Ar Rutbah
Tyler Evans
"muh PR" fags btfo
bad PR can destroy you
Michael Murphy
looks like another aleppo-tier siege in the near future. let's hope the kurds are a fraction as good at siege warfare as assad.
Jace Ward
do they really want to have to handle all of them in one country?
Adam Morgan
Iraqi forces raise cross in christian town captured form ISIS
Matthew Richardson
SAA continues to advance in SW Alepp
Carson Peterson
tbh i really like that pic, its fucking adorable.
Evan Sanders
If these mudshit amateurs had any sense or desire for victory they'd encircle the city and cut it off from all utilities and all supplies (including medical) and tell the inhabitants that unless they kicked out the ISIS rats you'd starve them all.
Do the Kurds get anything for this? What is their incentive to take casualties for Mosul when they could hold the land they have?
Sebastian Richardson
Mosul was ethnic Kurdish clay under Saddam.
Sebastian Reed
Clay is clay and the Iraqi government is going to get it
Robert Peterson
I believe they are about to stop advancing. Not clear on that though
Landon Green
Who's Abrams is that? I can't even that video.
Gabriel Hernandez
see "An #Iraq-i Abrams tank hit by an #isil Kornet ATGM east of #Mosul."
Daniel Price
Are there any numbers for this fight? Amount of fighters on each side, weapons available to which side etc?
That flight path looks so erratic, what kind of projectile is that?
Jeremiah Kelly
vid says Kornet, but it is more likely a Konkurs. Btw, a TOW looks the same as far as flight path is concerned; the Soviet design(Konkurs/Kornet) puts out more/darker smoke.
Matthew Peterson
Looking at the vid again, it appears the warhead travels in a spiral pattern; which is consistent with the Kornet.
Adrian Rogers
How long until WWIII? I'm getting tired of waiting.
Dominic Evans
SDF-YPG set up an impressive defensive system with ~30 km of trenches & barriers around Tell Rifaat. 3 lines on E. side
Jace Gonzalez
if Hillary gets in the no fly zone will kick things off if trump gets in the Zionists will cause a ruckus
Nathaniel Perry
The regime air force has dropped leaflets over east Aleppo warning, “This is your last chance….If you do not abandon this city, you will be eliminated.”
Bentley Wood
You ready faggots? The FSA and Turkish army are going for Aleppo and SDF squeezing in between, HoI 2 style.
Ayden Baker
I just cant see this even being attempted. She might want it but the generals who would actually implement it would surely see how ridiculous it is.
Its been going on for so long i cant wait for aleppo to be done and dusted. Onto the next one then, whichever it may be.
Brody Moore
Then she'll do what Obongo did; fire the competent generals and hire sycophants who would invade Russia in the winter if you told them to. WWIII will be started by Illary's newly appointed 100% stronk womyn Chiefs of Staff
Noah Baker
The first district in Mosul is being stormed
Justin Green
Simple, but very effective!
Also, from 2:18 forward, that guy running for it. Brutal.
David Cox
ofcourse they did. just as they supplied croats and bosnians with east german equipment in the yugo wars.
Robert Perez
GOOD LUCK ASSAD
Ryder Adams
TURKEY TAKES THE LEAD IN THE ">>7904718 RACE TO AL-BAB" as they advance on the city of EBLA, only a few kilometers from the city itself, getting to a striking distance from the FINISH LINE
Adrian Jackson
I want to tell you thatll never happen but i cant. If she rigs the election successfully i really hope someone assasinates her.
Levi Kelly
WHERE ARE THE TURKISH LEOPARDS? H E R E
A R E
T H E
T U R K I S H
L E O P A R D S ?
Brody Fisher
In the longrun perhaps its the best case situation for humanity. A near extinction level event would throw all the rules out the window and shitskins would have a much harder time surviving. It would also stand as a lesson for millenia to never allow women power again.
Nolan Ross
tell me more
Noah Perez
Government can't do anything to you for saying, "I hope x happens"
Sebastian Gonzalez
they put you on a bunch of lists and then harras you via bussines, beroucratic and financial means. atleast here
James Clark
Souran captured by SAA on North Hama front major loss for rebels
Gavin Harris
russia would be foolish to trust turkey and dump assad, especially after all the trouble they've gone through so far, but who knows? nobody really knows how far to trust putin these days. but the idea of propping up assad (officially) was that they were tired of the western faction toppling governments.
trip dubs of truth
Alexander Allen
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Jaxon Foster
Not law enforcement, not even american. It would be the only justice that fit such a big crime. You might be scared to say so in the land of the free but i can say it until the cows come home.
Samuel Miller
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Luis Martin
Large assault on West Aleppo by rebels in another attempt to break the siege.
Tires burning and Allu Akbars through loudspeaker.
P.S. Should we have a separate thread for the Battle of Mosul, or is it better to have all info in here?
Nathaniel Jones
I guess the thread's slow enough to have it in here.
Sebastian Long
SyrPer:
It seems this terrorists' offensive toward Aleppo is not even closer in firepower and ratpower as the previous one. One thing that was widely shared recently, it will be full of VBIEDs and some GRADS rockets.
There was a blackout in internet and communications yesterday in Aleppo, the Government knew well the offensive was about to start and got prepared to it.
As no surprise to anyone, the terrorists shelled the civilian neighborhoods this morning killing few unfortunately with many wounded.
So far it was destroyed from the terrorists : 4x VBIED 1x 23mm technical 1x Tank
All early news on terrorists advanced were denied by locals in Aleppo, actually the terrorists shared sunny pictures from places they supposedly have taken and Aleppo is raining all night and very cloudy today….fake pics of course as most likely fake news.
The terrorists will try killing as many civilians as possible this time, this is their objective toward creating panic, but they will have to survive a massive allocations of fighters, bombers and helicopters, my best guess the Syrians will have this time some 5X air power than the last terrorist offensive toward Aleppo, it may turn into a real massacre, yesterday it was shared RuAF transferred attack Helis to Kuweires and Aleppo airport, they are in use already.
It will be a long day, it will be very important to understand the situation of the terrorists rearguard positions (key cities under the terrorists), these areas will obliterated today preventing reinforcements to be sent to the frontline, as in many other attempts, this strategy works nicely for the SAA and allies.
Reminder to NEVER fall for, and take the terrorists' ((((breaking news)))) articles, posts, and tweets at face value, like most people did when they tried their 9001-phase offensives on SW Aleppo a few months back
JN controls: Western part of the Al-Assad district Church building (Southern part of the district)
SAA and allies: Al-Assad District (N,E,NW parts) Family House Buildings Menian Sawmills (Near the Family House Buildings, South of the Research Building Area under JF control)
Brody Smith
halfchan /sg/ rapefugee here. can i stay with you lads? i'm fucking sick of gookmoot crap.
Owen Walker
No
Blake Lopez
Why does the terrain in Syrian look so fucking terrible for fighting? It's either open landscape without any tree cover or urban house to house fighting with assholes who love using VBIDEs and suicide bombers.
Jackson Cox
I think you answered your own question, although there are some hilly and mountainous regions as well.
Zachary Ward
GOOD LUCK ASSAD MASTER OF MODERN SIEGE WARFARE!
Mason White
Welcome to the middle east, the terrain along the coast is fairly hilly/mountainous though
Robert Peterson
You can, but this thread is very slow.
Dylan Wright
Reported rebel gains in Aleppo
Justin Thompson
halfchan /sg/ is only so fast due to tripfag circlejerking and /int/ shitposting.
Joseph Evans
SAA JOINS RACE TO AL-BAB
SAA has captured Infantry School , Susan Hill , Shear hill , Safin after clashes with ISIS
getting location
Jayden Morgan
here we go. they probably made a deal with SDF
Juan Clark
ANNA News, face to face with militants in Aleppo
Kayden King
Oh for fucks sake. WW fucking 2 lasted this long. Can't these kebabs do some Rommel like moves and cut the head already. This grind fest is so fucking boring with these incompetent goat fucker throwing turds at each other.
Grayson Phillips
Good video
Angel Davis
Well, Turkish women can be surprisingly white and atractive… But Turks frequently have the kind of obtuse and chauvinistic attitudes that are only surpassed by the Arabs.
Of course the Turk uses "pollacks" as an insult. Hard to not be butthurt with a Polish Hussar Lance so far up your ass.
V I E N N A
Carson Gutierrez
Mate you are a quality poster, appreciate it.
Noah Bell
Thats a shame, any chance russia will step in? 12k attackers could make for some giant kill counts and they will be hard pressed to get that many terrorists in one place at one time again.
Grayson Jones
SDF is different from rebels and ISIS, they seem more like a local militia. correct me if im wrong someone
Except this ain't ww2 you dummy, in this battlefield, collateral damage - in the SAA point of view - is not acceptable (pro govt civs held hostage in jihadi held territories) And that's not even touching on the fact that the US/Saudis/Qatar/EU are doing everything they can to make ((((ceasefire agreements)))) to resupply their goons that doubles as pro-west/jihadi propaganda/anti-govt jargon/over exagerrated demoralization tactic. one wrong move/false flag is all it takes to give them an excuse to ((intervene)) This is kinda like Lebanon in the 90s, HZB took their time (90s - early 00s) in completely and utterly annihilating the S. Lebanon Resistance (pro-israeli), the Syrian War is similar in a sense but on a bigger scale, the only sensible way of dealing with the terrorists in syria is the same as what HZB did in the 90s in South Lebanon (see pic 4)
SDF is a us-supplied/backed, kurd majority militia group Unlike most of the Kurdish Cantons in N. Syria, the kurds in Afrin have ties to Damascus, so: Pretty much the summary of that gain, and it certainly has to do with the SAA going all the way to Al-bab and beyond (reclaiming N. Aleppo from filthy jihadi goons, turkish hooligans, and NATO spooks)
Oliver Roberts
except that the turk forces are bringing a circus down from the north and noone knows what they want and the US literally begging ISIS in iraq to go up in syria and fight assad for them
Kevin Richardson
Too late for that dude, the Afrin SDF squeezed in between the Syrian Army and the turks creating a yellow buffer zone, Hearts of Iron style Why didn't you see where they're pretending not to go? they tried to take over Tel Rifaat but the turks and their jihadi hordes got their asses kicked and lost a lot of their shit (ratpower, equipment, armor you name it), then they've tried to go around them towards the Infantry college, but that didn't go so well, right now they're taking a shot at Al-Bab I'm sure the Iraqi and RuAF are having a good time bombing them in the desert with the terrorists heading there in a fucking bee line straight towards Raqqa and Deir-Ezzor
Wyatt Cooper
Syria has a fuck ton of Iraqi Shia militia groups who came in to support Assad after the civil war started
Brandon Fisher
CAN ANYONE LINK ME archived/sg/threads IM WORKING ON A REPORT ON US INVOLVEMENT IN TERRORISM IN THE REGION
Caleb Cruz
Are those Russian warships almost arrived? The ones that took a trip around Spain?
Aaron Morgan
They're preoccupied with sinking wefugee smuggling ships; they'll be on station soon.
Cameron Cook
Cute/10 Wouldn’t look twice/10
Carter Martin
its not about immidiate objectives on the ground, but about what will happen when the turk and terrorist forces come across syrian forces and their russian angles of death.
i guarantee you, the "FSA allies" on the turk side will throw so much shit at the fan when that happens the place is gonna look like india
Kayden Bell
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Eli Perez
She's more of like a best pal AND fuck buddy type of girl than a traditional type, don't be such a stiff.
Hudson Wright
More on the Aleppo Infantry College Operation:
The Kurds first entered with support and planning of the Syrian Army, and an hour ago The Syrian Republican Guard entered the infantry school to hold the place.
Not all Kurds are separatists, there are some political and tribal difference between them. The Kurds of Ayn Arab hate the Kurds of Afrin, and Aleppo countryside is divided between the Kurds of Ayn Arab and the Kurds of Afrin. And the Kurds in Ayn Arab themselves are also divided, and so on. But the Kurds in Afrin were never against the government, and they helped Nubl and Zahraa during the siege, and after the siege was broken we gave them weapons and air support. So the point is, the SDF is not playing an important role in this war at the moment.
More on the Ambush at the 'Abandoned Battalion', Dara'a
Important, about the Treacherous ambush said by one of the jihadists
We decided to regain what the Persian Militias occupied and their shiite allies in the abandoned battalion, one of the vehicles head to the barrier but it got hit by an ATGM, some of the brothers died and the others got wounded, another vehicles went to carry the injured and after it carried some of them, the chains of the vehicle and it got hit too with an ATGM. The jihadists left the vehicle and some of them got sheltered in the barrier while others hid in the central building. The Assadist Shilka started shooting them in a no way out ambush, their brothers were desperate and not able to help them because of the hardness of the road which needs military vehicles. The army took the walkie talkies of the martyrs and started to be in control of the battle and we were so helpful for our jihadists in shelling, bombing and coverage but god's will was higher, no treachery or betrayal and no lack of ammo but god's will is upon us.
They also said these dead jihadists refused to withdraw and stay in the barricade for the night, well look how that turned out for them, lost contact with them at 7pm they also said. 40 dead rats counted by the SAA as of 11pm
interesting that they are US backed, but not openly attacking SAA. As we know, ISIS is largely created by the CIA, and the rebels are also supplied by the west (UN/NATO). It looks like different factions in power in the west are funding competing groups?
Luke Gray
Take note of what happened in Hasaka, The SDF/YPG/Asayish(kurd cops) have this mental switch they have since they are aligned with the US, they're currently in off mode (i.e. NOT attacking the SAA)
ISIS used to be an off shoot within al nusra that split up cause they're in too deep in the wahhabi mindset even al nusra thinks they're insane and should get the fuck out Al-Qaeda does it for the long run: - teaching and preaching their wahhabi cult filth mindset to children and eager young people - can give these new recruits US Army grade spec-ops training (Rangers,SEALs,Delta, you name it) - with local ((((sympathizers)))) and support (often from the gulf states and like minded natives) While ISIS are more 'direct' and short term: - join us or die! - CS/CoD/Battlefield-tier discipline - A LOT of outside support (NATO/US airdrops complete with training manuals and many fancy shit) - A number of them are former Baath Intel Officers and from Saddam's Iraqi Army, making them on par with the US spec ops to a certain degree - Further optimized by pro-cia/US asset gulenist military men from the Turkish Army/Spec Ops/Grey Wolves
Gavin Gray
Ive heard this several times but I haven't seen any direct evidence
Nicholas Stewart
Remember these dudes don't just disappear after being involved in the govt. The US army and the coalition of jihadists destroyed Iraq because of muh wmd and saudi/israeli interests so of course they'll be fuming in rage to the point where they joined what was once al qaeda in iraq now evolved into ISIL (first of it's name) just to get back at them. They may not now better about isis being taken advantage of by the us at the time, but pretty understandable, but unfortunately for them today they're no different from the jihadi goons who are in to for the muh virgins who squirt honey from their vagoos However, there are some of these Baathist officers/army dudes who survived and made their own non pozzed militia groups, one example is The Army of the Men of the Naqshbandi Order (A sufi muslim militia group, picture no.1), the guy in charge is a baath officer who fought the us army up until the 2011 withdrawal, they used to be a large group, but when ISIS became the rage they were rounded up and slaughtered, those who did not get caught went underground and tried their best to survive, recuperate, and struck back at ISIS whenever they could. Today they're not as big as they used to be but currently on the side of the Iraqi militia (PMU) and the Army, kicking ISIS ass, expelling them from hamlets where they still operate from.
Cooper Lewis
So let me get this straight:
*The Kurds are fighting ISIS with the help of Iran but the turks want them out of their clay, the kurds are hostile to the turks now? *The rebels (Al-Qaeda/Al-Nusra) are fighting against assad and anti-isis coalition, are they allied to ISIS or they are against them too? *The anti-isis coalition duds are trying to sabotage some of the russians who are helping assad and the turks?
Jayden Kelly
that pocket of YPG in aleppo always seemed odd to me. I would wager that they are supplying the rebels in aleppo secretly. there's no way the rebels should still be able to fight this long especially after having all supply routes cut off. I wonder if the SAA thinks this too.
Julian Ward
Syria: - SDF/YPG/Asayish/PKK Kurds (not counting the non-kurdish groups) are aligned with the US(Pentagon/MI6/Aussies/France) - FSA(Al Nusra,Muslim Brotherhood and other foreign jihadists) are directly aligned with The Turkish Army with some covert help from the US, Saudi Arabia and Qatar through the use of UN aid convoys (aka supplies, ammo, and TOWs) - ISIS is indirectly aligned with the Turkish Army and the US - Spurdogan doesn't like the US because of the gulenist coup attempt, so he'll try to wipe the floor with the kurds (and us spec ops among them) - Coalition planes are now very much not allowed at this moment so they're out for the count for the time being, if there's news about coalition jets attacking terrorist positions, they're simply false since they are a US asset or the Syrian Airforce Intel Directorate/IRGC drone strike are the ones doing the assassinating/death by food poisoning/droning/IEDing, or simply just plain old drive-by shooting/walk up to the targeted terrorist leader and shoot him in the forehead - The moment the US bombs the Syrian Army, it will be one or two less US planes over Syria thanks to the Syrian Air Defense that have yet to be unleashed/The S-3/400 and the Sy/RuAF - Turkey(FSA) is currently 'neutral' to the SAA North of Aleppo, while fighting the alphabet kurds. - ISIS can only do so much against both, especially against the SAA - Al Nusra are getting their asses kicked all over Aleppo, with jihadi propaganda and western msm outlets and sympathizers the only thing making it SEEM like they're going somewhere, but never do.
Iraq - US coalition bombing the Iraqi Army and allies ((((by mistake)))) again, to make sure their cia assets (ISIS) can get away to Syria - But the RuAF and the IraqiAF are having a good time bombing ISIS while jogging through the desert towards Raqqa/Deir Ezzor
The Kurds in Sheikh Masqoud are from Afrin, the Kurds of Afrin are aligned with Damascus, the kurds who attacked the Infantry College earlier are those who are not from the SDF/YPG, but pro-syrian non-separatist kurds That's simply not true, and it's cringy as fuck to know there are still people around who know nothing about the war to this day the last Fucking nonsense, the last un convoy that went there are their fucking suppliers, why do you think they lasted this long? But no matter, East Aleppo won't stand for long as the coming weeks will show their demise and the city's liberation at hand, their attempt to lift the siege from the west is even more shittier than the first attempt at Ramouseh and won't last very long, once their momentum stops, the SAA counter offensive will retake their lost positions prior to the offensive, and also regaining some of the lost clay that were once considered untouchable since 2012.
That's a lot of exaggeration at the beginning the SDF were created as the union of all the pro-regime militias,including the kurds (but also Christians, Palestinians, Shias, etc) and called "democratic" because Russia pushed for it against the FSA, and calling them the "real democratic opposition", people that are mostly not part of Assad power structure BUT don't want the country to become a sunni arab wasteland because they stand to gain power through reform of the power structure in Syria but not by the destruction of the Syrian state (which would spell doom for them).
The problem is that when Russia intervened the so called FSA (which was the US/EU/Turkish horse) shattered. Therefore the US needed another horse to race along their Nusra horse (US/Saudi horse) and IS (US/Israel/Turkey/Qatar horse) to edge their bets.
As a result via their kurdish proxies in Iraq (which are ALLIES Molotov/Ribbentrop style with IS) they managed to sway some of the Kurds from the east of Syria probably by making them believe they would guarantee their future state (instead of the large autonomy Assad's/Putin sold them). They first duped them into crossing the Euphrates (which Turkey had said was a red line, prompting the Turkish invasion), then into attacking the various SAA enclaves in Kurdish territory (that had been left alone since the beginning of the war, proof that there was a clear agreement between SAA and the Kurds).
The result of that is that the NDF is by no mean a monolithic bloc, just a name applied to various entities, and inside that bloc the kurds are not united either, with a lot of "realists" siding with Assad and Russia to gain a large autonomy within Syria and "idealists" that have deluded themselves that they can take on Turkey + IS to create a Kurdistan and that the JewSA aren't going to leave them to their ghastly demise…
Camden Adams
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Hudson Sullivan
topographic map of Al Bab and surrounding area
Aaron White
current situation around Mosul
Ian Murphy
The point is, no one wants a 'kurdistan' made from their own territory, the US and Israel wants it so they can have a launching pad for future attacks in Iran and Lebanon, as well as a puppet state of their own, kurds are easier to dupe than you think, Barzani is the kurdistan card the us had, anyone who supports this parasite state is essentially pro-us/israel and an enemy to the Syrian State.
Bullshit, the country is majority sunni and people never had problems with that before the war, blame the US for making that kurdistan/free syria garbage with their wahhabi bullshittry FSA is a non entity made up of over 100 jihadi groups whose flag is used merely for pr purposes, the points' redundant Bullshit, The pro separatist kurds are their only real footing left in the ME, the jihadi goons WERE their ticket to a salafist state, not anymore. merely just an important living drone assets now. Spurdogan hated the kurds with a passion cause the get in his way of making his ottoman dream, which is currently on the shelf, their jihadi proxies can only get them so far inside Syria, doesn't matter if they crossed the river or not, spurdo would want them gone from his border anyhow. Utter fucking BULLSHIT, the new US general in Iraq wanted a show of force cause he's a fucking newbie, the result is the Turd Police and their pkk/sdf friends attacking the local NDF/Assyrian Militia in Hasaka. Their non-aggression agreements are only partial and only if the pro-us kurds kept their word, which they often don't, They just couldn't stop doing their old habit of expelling/genociding the locals like they did with the Armenians long ago. The Kurds of Afrin are the only ones they actually have an agreement on, the SDF/YPG there had nothing to do with their advance on the Infantry College (the Non-Separatist Kurds with Republican Guard/NDF/Airforce assistance did it), but their deal to push to Al-Bab alongside the SAA and making sure the Turks don't get there first certainly is. You fucking underestimate the NDF, they're one of the biggest pro-gov group in the country, the locals of their hometowns made up the militia, non-separatist kurds are also among them, and they don't fight with one another, unlike the Alphabet Kurds up North, they're the dudes who hold the fort while the Army does their job of retaking the country back, granted they are more oriented on offense than defense but at least they do their part (most of the time), and you seem to don't know of the fact that the NDF are not the only pro-gov't group fighting the terrorists, the alphabet kurds are only impartial at it. And also the fact that the non-kurds among them are mostly made mostly up of jihadi goons who shaved their beards and switched places. the local arabs/levantines there simply have no other choice, it's either they join or be subject to kurdish abuse, not like it made any difference. The 'realists' and 'idealists' (aka the actual non-jihadi opposition) are either killed by their jihadi ((friends)) or fled the country to yuropistan or wherever pretending to be refugees like the cowardly traitor cucks they are, they don't count in this war and good riddance to them, they will not be missed. Even the Syrians who lived overseas for over 3+ generations are doing more on their part of helping their country than these spineless rich-ass fuckers. That's essentially making the Republic a federal one, which is opposed by, oh i don't know, THE WHOLE GODDAMN COUNTRY who are not on the side of the enemy. its no different to giving in to the demands of the NWO for the sake of ((((transparency)))) and it won't happen, complete and utter bullshit.
Aaron Rivera
Referring to the SDF by the way
Joshua Gonzalez
fair enough, i'm just going by what it looks like on the map, at the very least the SDF hasn't been helping SAA in aleppo launch offensives from their position. Admittedly I have a limited knowledge of whats going on and appreciate you sharing your knowledge with us
Jackson Miller
The YPG in Aleppo city is just a relatively small militia. They can barely defend themselves. Only reason they are still there is because the FSA and SAA are focused on each other. If either side launched an offensive directly at the YPG controlled district, it would hold out only a few days at most. Also, they side with the govt. In the past FSA has regularly shelled the district and often continue to do so, and during the creation of the siege of East Aleppo, the YPG played a large role helping out the govt forces.
Michael Long
very interesting, apologies again for my admittedly retarded speculating
Juan Cooper
Its just for sports :^)
Lucas Murphy
Current Situation:
- Rebels Wahhabi heretics in East Aleppo are in a real shitter, i'll give them more or less than a month and a half before they all come tumbling down - The Kurds in Sheeky Miss-Kuddie only have small arms with some rpgs. That's it, they can only hold the fort for a while during an attack because they're lacking a lot in all fields, relying on the SAA for provisional supplies, and they're only there because that part of Aleppo is the Kurdish Community inside the city, beyond it is simply a no go zone for the Kurds of Afrin (yes, the ones in Aleppo are from Afrin, you know, that patch of yellow box NW of the city, and also THE only kurd canton aligned with Damascus) - The Wahhabi Heretics tried to break the siege through Ramouseh, but failed and lost a lot of their shit (more than 5k dead + armor, heavy duty weapons, wasted their tows on earth mounds,decoy tanks and tow jammers) - Tried again throughout the entire line of W. Aleppo front, even more lacking than the first try. - SAA and friends went guerilla on the jihadi goons, killing them by the dozens through ambushes, IED traps, retreat and counterattack, etc. on the Al-Assad suburbs alone. - Got wiped out on Minyan District,Family Housing, went belly up near Al-Zahra, never heard from again near the castello road, can't even move around the 1070 Apts. - Currently losing even more of their shit, currently 800+ dead, +1k wounded, lots more armor destroyed, already losing ground they got on the second wave with carbombs. Without the car bombs they wouldn't even get past the earth mounds the SAA made on their first line of defense - Said attack is not even in conjunction with the stooges inside E. Aleppo, which is constantly shrinking everytime a jihadi goon bites the dust
All is good for the Axis of Resistance in Aleppo
Chase Howard
White privilege and the love of dictators: The Syrian case
Are you a cuckchan /sg/ refugee or something? I am the op of this thread (different id) and you seem to be one quite knowledgeable on this conflict. The first ive encountered in some time.
Thanks for your posts by the way
Jaxon Allen
holy crap, dont direct link the jerusalem post here, archive instead: archive.is/a1fjd
Brandon Gomez
forgot about that
Daniel Roberts
Syria: SAA tanks launch fierce barrage against Fateh al-Sham fighters in W. Aleppo
David Howard
Probably the best way to understand Syria is to map it to current US politics.
It doesnt map out perfectly, but it'll get you understanding what's up.
Assad was rightfully elected, and the SAA are pretty happy about it. FSA are pissed, but they aren't really a coherent group. More a coalitions of sub groups (a bit like trannies, BLM, illegals, faggots, muslims and SJWs in the case of Dems – just a jumble of everyone who can be convinced to hate Trump).
ISIS took it as an opportunity to chimp out. While they're more or less allied with FSA, they often fight because ISIS are basically niggers and cant get along with anyone.
Kurds took it as a chance to form their own country since they have their own language, culture and don't really fit in with Syria, Iraq or Turkey. However they aren't a monolithic group. Some are allied with Assad, the way white presenting english speaking spics feel more like whites and hate the mestiso spanish speaking illegals.
The Jews aren't even pretending that they don't support FSA.
Turkey hates the Kurds and are willing to give FSA a hand to kill them. The US is backing everyone who fighting Assad while pretending to hate ISIS. Much like the establishment in the US is attacking Trump while pretending to not support Muslim terrorists.
It's not perfect, but if you think of it in those terms it should be easier to follow.
seems to know his shit, so he can probably correct where I'm wrong.
Owen Parker
Only went there for a time before the place got infested with a torrent of filthy jihadi propaganda and the PUREST form of defeatism and shilling when Ramouseh happened, never went there again since the place turns into a pro wahhabi shilling Holla Forums thread on a frequent basis I stick to looking into sources that are not pro-jihadi sympathizing jargon as i always have before and after taking a peek at half /sg/
Sources: Leith Fadel = almasdarnews.com/ Leith Fadel's Dad = syrianperspective.com/ (Canthama is a neutral dude who's pretty good at analyzing the situation in the battlefronts and more)
Fort Russ: www.fort-russ.com Sputniknews international: sputniknews.com Russia Today: rt.com Al-Manar TV Lebanon: english.almanar.com.lb/ : www.al-akhbar.com/ (If anyone can read arab, that is) Xinhua: www.xinhuanet.com/english/ Abkhazian Network News Agency: anna-news.info (If anyone can read Russian/Abkhazi, that is) Ruptly TV: ruptly.tv/
This is actually very enlightening and helpful in remembering all the differing groups in the mix over there. ty
John Carter
/sg/ was great when they'd post ISIS vids and uncensored footage until it was hijacked by autists and Minnesotan and they started willfully avoiding any jihadi propaganda and posting only Al-Masdar news shit and Russian links. This probably made the jihad shills go away since there were a lot more of them at the start along with people posting their favorite nasheeds Now you may only find one roach poster at any given time.
Lincoln Brooks
That's not current at all. The "gains" lasted less than 48h, SAA counterattacked in force (with both the heavy duty Tiger brigade and Desert Hawk brigades with T-90) wiped out the rebel scum.
SAA control the 1070 blocks (which is desert it was in construction) because they hold the high ground, no matter how many cockroaches roam the low ground everytime they pop up and try to get into the 3000 blocks (which is inhabited) they get light up like a Christmas tree (that's actually one of the few SAA cunning moves… they lure Jihadis into uninhabited areas, and then they pummel with every gun and bomb they have and they have a shitload more than the Jihadis…).
In Minyan the roaches were pushed back right to where they started to the industrial zone. Only the foremost part of the al-Assad neighborhood is still contested as I'm writing.
Brayden Stewart
Total disaster: Entire unit of Pentagon-backed New Syrian Army captured by ISIS
Roachposters were the most low effort, least contributing posters, you fucking turkroach
Carter Jones
In case you missed it due to the large amount of happenings, see this Thread is about a car bombing that happened in Baghdad last sunday. It was reported around the world as killing 10, injuring 34. However the video shows it is staged. Posting it here for some more exposure, but polite sage anyway.
I know Baghdad is not Syria, but at least this is a serious thread about the ME
Hudson Robinson
This thread requires more sustenance.
Benjamin Lewis
current situation in Mosul not looking good for ISIS
Jackson Scott
lame, he got shot right as the other guy blocked the scene
Gabriel Morales
Interview: US Covert Action in Syria with Special Forces veteran Jack Murphy
Nicholas Moore
The Wars in Iraq and Syria are one and the same, there's no real difference between them, once the Iraqi Army and the PMUs liberated Mosul and the border crossing at Al Qaim, they'll go straight towards either in ISIS-held Hasaka or Deir Ezzor after making all the necessary preparations to do so with no need for any (((US assistance)))
Bentley Howard
String of Christmas terror attacks across Europe and America here we come.
Hunter Turner
ALI
Xavier Gonzalez
Sure, but cuckchan tier posting quality is not welcome here.
Xavier Moore
dont worry, the moment Iraq forces will get a succes, the US will be there to take the credit, just as it was every time. and the moment iraqi forces step into syria, the faggots in DC will be crying about them "needing direct assistance". and if they refuse everyone knows who the moderates and "accidential airstrikes" are going to hit next
Xavier Perez
Is Aleppo close to being secured yet? it's been weeks since it was encircled, when will these chimps give up?
Parker Hill
also, once ISIS and the rebels are officially dealt with, shit will REALLY get real, because there'll essentially be a corridor from Russia, across the caspian, through Iran, Iraq, and Syria (now all allies), straight to the mediterranian. this could change the entire balance of power in Europe and the middle-east.
Adam Howard
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Matthew Sanders
id say atleast two more months, if theres no bullshit with the UN. but judging from the US hegemony and other complications on other fronts, it might even take half a year
Angel Sanders
the US wont let that. they will most likely pull off some more falseflags to keep their troops in Iraq. as for europe, it wont effect it really, the US is making sure all EU-Russia relations are saboutaged.
Jaxon Roberts
reminder, if syria were to fall to jihadists, this stuff would disappear forever.
The SDF will lose a LOT of manpower by the hundreds trying to get close to Raqqa, but they don't know that
Michael Hall
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Adam Ross
Russia controls Syrian air space, Clinton wants to fight them for it.
Asher Reyes
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Jayden Ward
SDF now attacking Raqqa
Lucas Morris
whats the real purpose behind this offensive? Herding IS towards SAA territory?
Xavier Gonzalez
more land they control, more negotiating power they have. Also launching an offensive during the Mosul offensive would be the best as isis would be strained on resources.
Josiah Cruz
CNN reporter trapped with Iraqi forces during ISIS attack
Dam, she has more combat experience than 90% of the military now. She got many redpills in that shitshow and will not be the same around normies
Austin Cruz
She was yet another naive twat going into that, assuming her safety was guaranteed, good wakeup call for her, cameras provide no protection.
Parker James
she is the granddaughter of a former syrian leader who got killed in a coup. Her family has been through a lot.
Adam Brooks
currently on Raqqa front, SDF advancing.
Jaxon Nelson
A big ass PR to show off their US backed puppet kurd proxies are 'winning', also a smokescreen for America's CIA ISIS leadership assets in Raqqa to be safely evacuated to undisclosed locations. Even if they did get Raqqa, it will only be temporary since the City is an Arab City, not a commie turd city, and keeping it is a real drain on military assets for the SDF and the US/NATO spec ops there, and no one wants an (((pro-west/isreal independent kurdistan))) smack in the middle of the region, not even spurdogan. For the SAA, Raqqa is a countryside capital that doesn't offer much in economic and strategic advantages, same thing for the Hama countryside aside from Hama City, Airport and the Khanasser Road. Their total strength is used to defend their holdings throughout N.Syria, 10k is the actual number of local kurds and pro-west Arabs attending the Raqqa offensive, and the offensive is already stalling due to heavy casualties. You would think the Turks would not stop this from coming to fruition, the Offensive is no more than a distraction for another upcoming operation (Al-Bab).
I am not sure what the fuck they were expecting to happen.
Henry Brown
Huh. No d*c fags shitting up the thread. It's almost as if they only hang around the american election shit. Yeah though, this is why a lot of my friends and I flipped to generally being RIDF when they announced the intervention. I know it was just politics, but the fact is that they're stopping the genocide from being completed.
I think, if anything good came out of this madness in Syria, it's redplling a lot of us about Hezbollah, Iran, and Russia. Yeah they're doing shit for realpolitik, but the fact is they're still helping.
Nathan Campbell
Maybe it'll redpill her into stopping her from contributing to the creation of slanted media.
Isaac Foster
They are just gonna stage it in a studio next time. This video was way to expensive if you look at all the equipment damaged or lost.
Cooper Long
to the people who think this war isn't a big deal, pic related. the last time someone tried to sell oil directly to Europe started the Iraq war.
Brandon Taylor
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Jonathan Watson
were the warnings shouted at the taxi driver before executing him in front of a CNN camera team even understandable for him or was it some foreign gobbledigook?
Isaiah White
according to an arabic speaker on reddit, some of the soldiers were actually telling him to come toward them, along with other commands such as turn back, lay down, etc. but the come towards them part wasnt included in the subs
Austin Roberts
Are kurds the good guys?
Colton Green
Listen to a guy called "Sargon of Assad" (NOT Akkad/mossad, etc) who is a Christian Assyrian who have talked a lot about how messed up the Kurds are. They are the next ISIS, basically.
Nicholas Nelson
The something awful goons are only in the popular threads.
Cameron Edwards
depends which, Peshmerga is based, PKK not so much Russia aligned kurds groups > US-backed kurd groups
Xavier Campbell
Trumps victory will speed up the war. Thousands of lives may be saved because of this election.
Joshua Campbell
Rebels have made a number of gains against ISIS
Wyatt Torres
In south Aleppo, SAA has made a number of victories against rebels
Justin Turner
So what does US President Trump mean for Syria?
Noah Anderson
see
He will work with Putin to speed things up. Hillary was the rebel's last hope. They will probably stop getting weapons and equipment. Assad will likely win the war.
Jackson Diaz
Truly a new dawn
Nathan Walker
Current situation in Mosul
Daniel Myers
current situation in Aleppo
Chase Morgan
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Andrew Martin
US volunteers in the YPG fighting ISIS
Michael Young
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Gavin Fisher
Alright, I think I'll make a new thread now. This is getting too outdated. See