HILLARY CLINTON PROPOSES 65% ESTATE TAX: IE. FUCK YOU IF YOU WANT TO SAVE MONEY FOR YOUR KIDS

late again CtR

Estates are exempt up to 10 million for married couples.

Too low. I support 100% estate tax.

Current law exempts estates worth $5.45 million or less. Beyond that, you pay 40%.

Indexed for inflation, it now stands at $5.45 million, $10.9 million for a married couple.

Ms. Clinton previously called for whittling the $5.45 million figure down to $3.5 million, and upping the 40% tax rate to 45%. But those were modest hikes, and that was then. Now, with populist flair, she wants a 50%, 55%, and 65% rate. The 50% rate applies to estates worth over $10 million per person, 55% for estates over $50 million, and 65% for estates exceeding $500 million. The new proposed estate tax plan makes her prior 40% to 45% hike seem inconsequential.

It can force sales of family companies, and sales of family farms and ranches.

Scott adams is based. This fucking confirms it. Love the fucking told status when the liberal twitter defense force comes at him about it.

Hillary is still a garbage fire, but I don't give a fuck if some kike with 50+ million in the bank kicks it and loses 65% of the shekels he put aside for his kikelets. The problem is all the tax shelters they all have make shit like this pointless. It's an empty appeal to the socialist left who are too stupid to realize it affects nothing.

Which is how its done anyways, sell it to the kids for a dollar.
You don't get hit with the taxes that way.

She would impose a 50% rate that would apply to estates over $10 million a person

It starts at 10 million.

F U C K B O O M E R S AND KIKES

Under Clinton I'd never be taxed 65% for dying and the elites are mostly kikes.

But redistribution of wealth? That just creates niggers.

This. Fuck foundations and dodges.

We should pretend to be Hillary supports and tell her to push for 100% instead just for kicks.

Yes. Now go home, Holla Forums

Meant 500 million for the 65 percent bracket.

Any estate tax is ridiculous.
Forget about income brackets and the sliding scale for a minute.
Do you really think it is a good thing for a significant chunk of your assets to be taken by the government just because you died? Your children be damned?

Feels deadly, man.

WE NEED MO MONIES FO DEM RAPEFUGEES

Shut up moron.

So 50% of the value over 10 million.
So nothing in your example.

mfw

Agreed. Estate tax is bullshit. However, compared to her fucking up the scotus and allowing mass shitskin immigration, its fucking minor.

Jokes on her, my family doesn't have jack shit. Oh wait,

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

Yup, she has to be a Trump plant

Shut up. You know what I meant.

Have your dad transfer all his wealth into a non-taxible "subjective" income like hedge fund shares or something if he ever feels hes about to leave us. Thats how the uber rich get around the estate tax.

They're fucking retarded mate. They have no concept of the physical assets tied up in a business that contributes to that $10 million valuation either. There might be a quarter of that that's actually liquid but fuck them and their dozens of employees, they're rich.

Holy shit that rainbow cunt he tweeted that at must be killing itself as we speak

I agree mate. But I figured it was worth a thread. Scott Adams officially getting on the Trump rain is nice too.

What in the actual fuck, did she forgot to take the meds ?

The estate tax was already criminal to begin with. This just makes it evil.

Estate taxes are a jewish plot to eliminate any American aristocracies.
(Jew think any American family is an aristocracy)

#REKT

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Black line was bugging me. Also fucking Miura and his damn pedophile game

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That's practically nothing in the national picture too, which makes it simply nonsensical

How could this possibly do anything but hurt her? Literally who is going to go to her side over this? Also she's probably alienating even more moderates.

The homeless?

the amount of fucking verbal devastation that guy dispenses

Bernie bros, she might be trying to scrape them from the independent.
If so then damn she is desperate.

About time

The dick is still in his brain, even if he took it out of his mouth

So it's a scam to force family buinesses, farms and ranches to sell their land to the state. It's disguised as "war on the 1%", but really it's their means of seizing resourcefull areas

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Nothing really changes

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I'm sure those assets will be bought at government auction by somebody

Also, the very wealthy don't even pay the estate tax due to loopholes, this would only hurt upper middle and lower upper class
tbh, the very wealthy upper crust cosmopolitan class that aids the kikes does need to be hammered into the ground

One of the few times I agree with the gold shills, buy a fuckton of it slowly over the years, bury it on your property, and secretly tell whoever you want to pass it to

In a cashless society, how do sell the gold in an untraceable way?

The 1% doesn't own that much land in the US, they are mostly bankers and partial owners of large companies. The land will be bought by one of their corporations and used to further enrich them. There really is a change between a hostile eltie controlling more of your country and it controlling less of your country, especially the bits it can profit from. Were the Bundy's not forced to sell some of their ranches so that the chinese could buy their land for through the Bureaue of Land Management?

that money has been taxed fucking 20 times over before the estate (((tax))) gets a shot at it.

COUGHING FIT
PANTS OF SHIT

Which is why I think buying it incrementally over the years would be better, as it gives you a way to say you traded it for something or gave it to someone. I don't really have much more than the basics down, admittedly.

I said that because it reminded me of every leftist revolution ever. "le 1%" fucks off somewhere else or just gets around it while the middle class gets fucked in the ass. The thing that never really changes is a certain ethnic group consolidating all of the power and wealth.

I'm not an accountant either, but perhaps there is a way to create a corporation to manage your family assets under the control of your children. The corporation might dictate that assets must remain in place until your death.

How about instead of estate taxes we go after the taxes that the rich arent paying by putting their money into tax havens.

Wealth for the sake of creating a 200 year dynasty is disgusting. Use that money to accelerate humankind into the future. Just handing billions of dollars over to kids who may or may not have the same business savvy you do is retarded.

That is a good point actually, there are far more Paris Hilton heiresses than Ivanka Trumps. It shouldn't be 65%, but if if it were more reasonable and permissible for you to allocate where you wanted that money to go, I could support that.

Easy choice.

The whole "sell it to the kid for a dollar" loophole has been closed for years.

Sure, Mr.Bolshevik.
Here's my life savings, I'm sure you'll put them to better use than I ever could!

We are

forgot pic fml

Can't tax money that's not even controlled by an American.

It's part of that corporate inversion problem Trump has talked about.

no

…that will be wasted in incompetent government programs or given to illegal immigrants.

Exactly. And, it's less than a drop in the bucket in terms of how badly king nigger fucked our national debt.

It will hurt small and medium family businesses.

no doubt, but in pure financial terms, $75 billion is a joke, especially stretched over a decade

holy shit the bantz

Bingo.

We're not there yet and I doubt americans will abandon cash as easily as the swedes did.

Considering you are taxed at ~40 percent throughout your life and then 65 percent of your savings on top of that is serf-level confiscatory taxation. I am not fond of trust fund babies either, but it is a hundred times more agreeable that funds are spent on cocaine, hookers, or yachts than going to the Federal Reserve or our greatest ally. Literally burning money is preferable to its use by the federal government under our current ZOG regime so I do not support tax increase in any way shape or form. Even if a rich patriarch does the right thing and donates their money instead of producing a trust fund degenerate they are still subject to death tax so "muh tech research" "degenerate trust fund dynasty" etc. is not really an argument for estate taxes.

Not to mention that virtually all rich people will move to a tax haven after this passes, exacerbating the problem of capital flight and outsourcing which is already fucking our economy.

Its like being in a shitty third world country.

Something like that. I don't remember the details but I think Sen. Harry Reid was involved in this whole thing with the chinese company.

I meant that hurting small and medium family businesses is probably the goal.

Reminder of what Trump's plan for the estate tax will be:

Checked and Kekked.

So long, farewell, Auf Wiedersehen, Sayōnara!

Its a little disturbing how much that actually looks like Hillary Clinton.

That tax rate is old user, not sure when but Trump changed his plan, pic related.

donaldjtrump. com/positions/tax-reform

Ew, for real?

He ditched the no tax under 25k/50k?

That's a serious bummer man.

It's idealistic to have the no tax bracket, but having it this way instead is more realistic and will be easier to pass most likely. It's still far better than the current system.

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Absolutely Based!

Good to hear we're finally getting a decent tax rate in this country.

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This kills the family farms.

72 HOURS UNTIL YOU DIIIEE

I don't even wanna know how that would work…

Eh…

Single Filers were looking at:
10% up to $9,225
15% from $9,226 to $37,450
25% from $37,451 to $90,750

And now:
12% up to $37,500
25% from $37,501 to $112,500

If you make, say, $60k?

OLD
10% -> $922.50
15% -> $4,233.75
25% -> $5,637.50
TOTAL: $10,793

TRUMP
12% -> $4,500
25% -> $5,624.75
TOTAL: $10,124.75

Difference: $669

Barely a change at all… That fucking sucks man.

I'll have to run some more numbers, but it really doesn't seem like its any better at all.

Low-income families - the poorest of the poor - will actually be paying MORE in taxes under Trump.

That's fucking shit.

Trump dubs confirm.

That's probably the intention

He's changed it once, he may change it again before the election. I don't think anyone is voting for him purely on tax policy anyways so he's less likely to keep it in stone for now.

He did keep the no death tax, however capital gains will still be taxed for it, along with the 15% corporate tax, so there's that

How about we repeal property tax so that people can own their homes that they worked hard to pay off?

I like this the best.

If you earn less than 12K it should be zero

Hillary just wants to make America what it used to be….poor and standing in bread lines.

How about you keep paying rent and just shut the fuck up, ok?

He's raising the standard deduction to $15K you CTR shill faggot.

I agree, I like his old tax plan better but I can see why he made the change, I don't agree but I can see where he's coming from

Did your mother drop your head on the floor of the gas chambers? You wouldn't pay any taxes scholomo

The only difference between the first great depression and now is the fact that the banks are still functional. If they were to fall and shitloads of money just went up in smoke, then we'd be there.

He fucking needs to change it again, because this new plan is shit for the majority of Americans, and I've yet to see the damage to the higher end.

Consider the following…

Let's examine several married-filer income brackets…
… and let's consider some different income taxation scenarios.

and to big businesses. I recall reading about a small farm being forced to sell to a larger farm.

As I recall the big businesses are essentially exempt from estate taxes.

All or most forms of property are taxable assets. A business you own is a taxable asset. Farm equipment is a taxable asset. A businesses liquid assets can fluctuate between a small amount and a very large amount. A business can have more value in usable property than value in the bank account.

When talking about estate taxes I guess that the laymen wrongly thinks that only the money in the bank is taxable, that they money in the bank has no purpose except to allow that person to live in luxury, and that the small business is not taxed.

The concept that a small business and a rich person can essentially be the same thing when it comes to estate taxes is probably an unthinkable concept for the layman.

There is a different kind of estate tax already: inflation.

One day we may end up with the wealth tax, I'm guessing the big businesses will be exempt from that while the small ones are not.

Nope, he was well outside the area and had nothing to do with it.
The Reid connection came up because Bundy tried saying he was paying Nevada not the BLM for land use.
His checks kept being returned because Nevada had nothing to do with the land and so they were returned to sender.
Bundie tried saying that gave him title to fuck over public land after shreking his to the point the US army has had to deploy a brigade to watch for durkhas showing up.
When the BLM came knocking, he tried strong arming them and failed, cattle were rounded up and destroyed, then Burning Man took their naked drugged asses and held it on the remains.
Later, Bundie sacrificed many dildos on sacred Indian ground to prepare his asshole for jail.

Bracket #1: $20,000

0-$18,550
$18,550 * 10% ==> $1,855.00
$18,451-$50,000
(20,000-18,550) * 15% ==> $217.50

Taxed: $2,072.50
Percentage: 10.4%

0-$50,000
0.0% ==> $0.00

Taxed: $0
Percentage: 0.0%

0-$20,000
$20,000 * 12% => $2,400

Taxed: $2,400
Percentage: 12%

These folks are actually worse off under Trump's new plan.

Bracket #2: $40,000

0-$18,550
$18,550 * 10% ==> $1,855.00
$18,451-$75,300
(40,000-18,550) * 15% ==> $3,217.50

Taxed: $5,072.50
Percentage: 12.7%

0-$50,000
0.0% ==> $0.00

Taxed: $0
Percentage: 0.0%

0-$40,000
$40,000 * 12% => $4,800

Taxed: $4,800
Percentage: 12%

Less than 1% drop in taxation.

Bracket #3: $80,000

0-$18,550
$18,550 * 10% ==> $1,855.00
$18,451-$75,300
(75,300-18,550) * 15% ==> $8,512.50
$75,301-$151,900
(80,000-75,300) * 25% ==> $1,175

Taxed: $11,542.50
Percentage: 14.4%

0-$50,000
0.0% ==> $0.00
$50,001-$100,000
(80,000-50,000) * 10% ==> $3,000

Taxed: $3,000
Percentage: 3.75%

0-$70,000
$70,000 * 12% => $8,400
$70,001-$225,000
(80,000 - 70,000) * 25% => $2,500

Taxed: $10,900
Percentage: 13.6%

Also less than 1% drop in taxation.

Bracket #4: $160,000

0-$18,550
$18,550 * 10% ==> $1,855.00
$18,451-$75,300
(75,300-18,550) * 15% ==> $8,512.50
$75,301-$151,900
(151,900-75,300) * 25% ==> $19,150
$151,901-$231,450
(160,000-151,900) * 28% ==> $2,268

Taxed: $31,785.50
Percentage: 19.7%

0-$50,000
0.0% ==> $0.00
$50,001-$100,000
(100,000-50,000) * 10% ==> $3,000
$100,001-$300,000
(160,000-100,000) * 20% ==> $12,000

Taxed: $15,000
Percentage: 9.4%

0-$70,000
$70,000 * 12% => $8,400
$70,001-$225,000
(160,000 - 70,000) * 25% => $22,500

Taxed: $30,900
Percentage: 19.3%

ALSO less than 1% drop in taxation.

best post i've seen all day

YOU DIDN'T TAKE OUT THE STANDARD DEDUCTION, WHICH TRUMP IS INCREASING YOU CTR SHILL.

GET THE FUCK OFF OF MY BOARD REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

that's hilarious. he literally said that he endorsed Hillary because Democrats are much more likely to shoot people than Republicans and he didn't want to get shot. That was the basis of his Hillary endorsement.

I won't call you a CTR shill, but as with said, what are the outcomes with the standard deduction? It's late and I don't feel like doing the math right now

I'm not a shill, you faggot, I'm trying to understand.

Care to explain the intricacies of this to someone who is not an accountant?

estate taxes are fucking awful, peter schiff did a good video explaining why.
Basically
basically the wealth gets obliterated or transferred to useless eaters, other companies consolidate their hold on the markets and raise prices for everyone, and the children get barely anything.

Jesus, have you never filed taxes before?

The standard deduction cuts down the amount of income you pay taxes on. Any single making less than $15000 pays ZERO under Trump's plan.

Nope. I have a family accountant.

And so any family making under $30k is looking at zero as well?

If so, eh, that's not so bad, though I'll have to run the numbers again.

So basically you and the OP are telling us all what we already know. The bitch CANNOT WIN, or we're all fucked in the ass even harder than we already are.

Wonderful, fuck everything.

Yup. Commie.

Yes.

Nice dubs.

B-But Communism has never been tried! Stalin ruined it! Give it another chance!

Oy vey how dare you imbly that gommunism has never been tried you racist sexist anti semite it's anuddah shoah six million

Kids didn't work for it, its not theirs.
You worked for it, try living longer and enjoy it.
I mean really, dying today is for losers, we don't even have buses any more to step in front of accidentally.

Kek, my dothead professor from Bengali said that. I should have either killed myself or become a hobo. Fuck school. I hope civil unrest happens so I can get into fights with Lefties.

Something about any semen that enters the body begins to influence the brain and continues to do so indefinitely.

Don't worry, Hillary has a few laying around. Give her an insult and she'll arrange for something to happen.

I can't wait for a purge.

In women, anyway.

I don't even care if I sound like a chickenhawk, if I freak out, or if I die at this point. I just want the good feeling of knowing that leftists, cuckservatives, etc. will die for their sins of betraying my country.

What would happened if property taxes were outlawed?

What, is Hillary a prophet for Kek with that frog in her throat?
Does she have magic now as well?

Correcting the Record ;^)

Bracket #1: $20,000

0-$18,550
$7,400 * 10% ==> $740

Taxed: $740
Percentage: 3.7%

Taxed: $0.0
Percentage: 0%

Bracket #2: $40,000

0-$18,550
$18,550 * 10% ==> $1,855.00
$18,551-$75,300
(27,400-18,550) * 15% ==> $1,327.50

Taxed: $3,182
Percentage: 7.95%

0-$10,000
$10,000 * 12% => $1,200

Taxed: $1,200
Percentage: 3%

Bracket #3: $80,000

0-$18,550
$18,550 * 10% ==> $1,855.00
$18,451-$75,300
(67,400-18,550) * 15% ==> $7,327.50

Taxed: $9,182.50
Percentage: 11.47%

0-$70,000
$50,000 * 12% => $6,000

Taxed: $10,900
Percentage: 7.5%

Bracket #4: $160,000

0-$18,550
$18,550 * 10% ==> $1,855.00
$18,451-$75,300
(75,300-18,550) * 15% ==> $8,512.50
$75,301-$151,900
(147,400-75,300) * 25% ==> $18,025

Taxed: $28,392.50
Percentage: 17.7%

0-$70,000
$70,000 * 12% => $8,400
$70,001-$225,000
(130,000 - 70,000) * 25% => $15,000

Taxed: $23,400
Percentage: 14.6%

Not quite as nice as his old plan looked, but still an improvement, that I'll grant.

I'm seriously starting to think that Clinton is a Trump plant.

They'll inflate the money to such an extent to make all your "saved" money worthless.

Which is of course an entertaining reversal from 3 months ago.
Amazing how easy it is to flip people around.

I get the 20s intervals, but it's a bit dishonest for a gap between 20K and 40K when the married standard deduction is 30K

Pissing off the rich is a sure fire way to end your election run.

And 50 million upper class is not to be underestimated, should you actually get them in a frenzy over the same issue.

Nobody needs land. Rent from Mr. Goldstein's apartment complex, goyim.

TRIPS OF TRUTH
This is exactly what's happening. Hoe. Lee. Fuk.

This still doesn't make it ok. The government is taxing the money twice. It's fucking theft.

What's hilarious is that even if something like this passes, people like Hillary will find a way to syphon money to their children… because that's what the ultra rich do best, hide their money from the government. Our rules don't apply to them.

Furthermore, who does this negatively affect the most? Successful business owners and the like. Oh, you made $80 Million in your lifetime, too bad goyim now you have to give 50% of your assets to the government fo' dem programs.

If you think this applies to ultra rich kikes you are in for a surprise.

Theft is impossible when it is according to the rules. Please actually speak properly when raging so that you can be understood.

Oh user, its way more than twice.
all taxation is theft

INFLATION! INFLATION! INFLATION! INFLATION! INFLATION! INFLATION!

Who the fuck cares if its over $XX million dollars if they are just going to hyper inflate the currency?

How?
Just how do you get theft when it is literally in the rules you will pay that much?
Don't like it, void the terms and cease being an American.

That's most definitely right on the nose.

Good observation, man.

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Bump
The US is so fucked if this bitch wins.

The point isn't to collect taxes, that is only incidental. The point of egregious estate taxes is to strip the boomer wealth so younger whites don't get it. Because muh fairness, muh equality etc. etc. There is going to be a huge transfer of wealth between the wealthy white boomers and their kids, and because boomers had less kids than the greatest generation many more fortunes could stay intact rather than be split up between 10 heirs.

Dindus blocking the road ahead. Nothing ever really changes, does it?

Not if it gets rid of those pesky goyim who dare to be rich alongside the chosen

yeah and the uber-rich get notified before said hedge fund gets emptied out.
His dad won't. Bye bye money.

I know that you mean by billions from (((billionaires))) but it's really not retarded at all. What happens when these dumb kids inherit the money? They piss it away and the family becomes less wealthy with each passing generation.

Money doesn't magically stay in families forever. Future generations have to make some sort of effort to keep their wealth. Unless you are a kike banking family that creates money out of thin air

it would just encourage them to do even more weird crimes and shit to try and get out of it

Holla Forums may be cancer but the socialists do have a point about seizing wealth from nonproductive kike elites

Property tax is a state thing. In Wyoming, for example, you don't pay any property taxes if you're over 65.

I was under the impression that Scott Adams was extremely pro Trump and that his Hillary endorsement was satire to begin with. What's with all the shitting on him?

nazis are socialists you don't have to concede anything to those cucks

Trump is right. People hate taxes, and even some traitors would rather keep their money for degenerate things then give it all up for a high tax like this.

He was pointing out that Hillary only benefits the rich and fucks over working class people, and because he's rich, voting for hillary would benefit him and exploit working-class citizens. Then she went and fucked over the only actual support she had.

Fair enough, I do like National Socialism

(Preferably ethno-nationalism)

Do you have autism? There is a difference between law and human moral/decency.

It's just about usury.

Say you got big fat Gaben making billions selling licences to play video games (he doesn't sell the actual games). It's his money and forever his until he exchanges it for something he wants, the same way others gave him their money for something he had that they wanted.

Yeah, one can have legal terms attached to it, the other is as variable as ear shapes, and subjective as the tightness of a good pussy.

He does good things publicity wise for Trump, but don't overestimate him. He's very bluepilled on many topics.

One thing to keep in mind as well is that boomers are going to be spending a fuckton of money on their final years in nursing homes. Those places are ruinously expensive and given how they will spare no expense on themselves many of their estates will have nothing left to tax at their deaths.

This doesn't negate discussion of the estate tax issue though.

Property tax was created to ensure you NEVER actually own your property, ever.

The bitch of it is big corporations are already sucking up as much real estate as possible. My hometown was largely agricultural, and it had tons of farmers, sons of farmers, plenty of land.

A chicken plant would routinely go around offering to bring in independent farmers and buy their chickens from them at good prices, so long as they only sold to them, the big corporation.

So most people would because it's a decent contract their getting, and from a company they know can shell out. But the big corporation always worked in this clause to where if the smaller farms didn't meet their standards, they would forfeit their farms and the rights to their produce. So within a two year period, after about twenty or so farmers had joined on, the big corporation started "finding" all manner of breaches of contract, and started seizing farms and produce out the wazoo.

And of course all the corporation did was bring in Mexicans to work.

Gotta love the American Dream

What's worse is that it takes incentive away.
If you come up with a brilliant business idea so you can make money - well, you don't because it's better to be a poorfag with $1 million than to work 16 hours a day to get to $50 million (of which you keep only 20).

So business owners will go "fuck this" and move elsewhere or just be unproductive due to stress.

Dilbert man delivers some spicy banter

underrated

Unless of course they structure so as to get around the taxes as they do.
Its basically an idiot tax, hence why the revenue is so low for it.

it's weird how he makes such a boring comic

Get a job.

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Come back to me when the entire midwest is choking on farmsoil.

not a persuasion

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That's funny, both definitions can apply to both of them.

Don't pretend that many laws over the years haven't been founded by evil men and selfish pricks, or big business. Morality CREATED law, retard, and a system with holes is a dysfuctional system.

The law is the result of people either coming together and putting on in, or a group with a lot of cash (or a lot of infiltrators) bribing and corrupting people.

If you honestly thing that law is morality, then you have no sense of either. If a law states that a man must be killed for his ear shape, regardless of what actual sins that man has committed, then why would you accept that law? Especially since a law like that has room for subjective warping and could be applied to everyone at the will of one group?

Law and Morality are both works in progress, and they will always REMAIN works in progress, so assuming that law or morality is in the absolute right is insanity.

Get your fucking shit together, you complete, vacuous, shit-for-brains RETARD.

Whelp you failed the RWDS entrance test.

You also failed to get that as much as a WIP they are, they remain solvent until that change occurs.
So please, do tell how under the current guidelines of your chosen morality, and under US law, it is theft, and present so with actionable proof that does not fall under subjective morality.

Their desire for a serf society serfs who are fungible with anyone fresh off the boat doesn't work as well when it's possible for you or your kids or their kids and so on to work their way out of the lower and middle classes by way of multi-generational wealth.

Leftists love the idea of an estate tax because it enables them to strut about telling your kids they don't deserve shit because "you didn't work for that".

What they really want to achieve is that you are born with nothing, spend your entire life working and spending what little money you have and on the off chance you do accumulate some wealth, an estate tax ensures your children are forced to repeat the same task. In otherwords, you and e very generation after you are left to spin their wheels to accumulate wealth for someone ELSE and not your own decendents.

You are not entitled to wealth, but you have the opportunity to build it if you are smart, if you are lucky, if you are hard-working or a combination of the 3. An estate tax removes the opportunity to get anywhere in life for you and yours, which is why Shillary & co love the idea of it so much.

YOU OWN NUFFIN' GOY!

It starts at 10 million, and when they've taken all their money, it'll be reduced to 5 million, and then 1 million - which the middle class will have because inflation sees housing going to astronomical prices.

And then it just becomes standard regardless of the value of the estate.

Do you know what a criminal is, shithead?

What, do you live under a fucking rock, or are you actually mentally ill? Seriously, what fucking dimension are you from? This is the 3rd, and the topological location is Earth, 3rd planet, Milky Way solar system, a 2.537 lightyears over from the Andromeda Galaxy.

Go bother your fucking surrogate parental unit, you fuckin' dumbass.

Trips confirm basic understanding of how the US government has been fucking us over since we gave women the vote and got the income tax.

See also, AMT.

A criminal in the US is someone who has had a trial and been convicted of a crime beyond a reasonable doubt.
Actual guilt and innocence not necessary, only the findings of the court.

Tell me do you understand the term innocent until proven guilty?

you're guilty in the US if 4 or 5 people go on TV and say you are

scott adams is a stupid fucking shortsighted crypto kike. he was going to vote hillary before this policy was announced, but now that his precious shekels are threatened he realized he made the wrong choice.
it wasn't the alarmingly high probability that clinton could start ww3 based on her behavior patterns
it wasn't the disgusting amount of corruption and incompetence
it wasn't her serious health and possibly mental health issues
it was the shekels.

fuck scott adams.

No, a criminal is someone who breaks the law, not one that fucking didn't get caught, you retard.

What kind of fucking bullshit are you spouting? That law is Innocence assumed until proven guilty, you can't just bullshit around it, retard.

Then maybe its time some people start being held accountable for libel and slander.

Good thank you, you agree that taxation is proper and you agree to pay it as long as you remain a US national.
So if you don't like it, enter politics or get some new citizenship.

Only rich people give money to their children anyway fellow democrats.

*inhales from bong*

Just vote Hillary and she will give you welfare and weed and shit.

*cashes welfare check*

Love Trumps Hate goys!

*gets cucked internally*

Oh no, you're not pulling that bullshit, the argument was never about paying the taxes or not, the argument was about the fact that their taxes are way too fucking high as a way to make money instead of serving the people.

You're a fucking retard, you're clearly mentally ill, get some fucking help.

Not that it matters. Boomers are all getting reverse mortgages on their 300k houses so they can see the world before they finally fuck off the earth forever. The joke will be on Hillary when she finds out that the Boomers were and always will be the most self-centered and irresponsible generation. She should know; SHES ONE TOO.

Hey goys.

What if we just instituted a 90% flat federal income tax and created Universal Income?

Socialism and shit goyim come on just give in.

You say theft, something that means they're illegal, now you're trying to argue scale.
Make up your damn mind if you're a whore or just lying.

Believe it or not, it would work with white people.

But it would also be unnecessary with white people.

Scott, no. Now I have to buy his book to thank him for all of the knowledge he's imparted while he's still alive.

Go forth, my fellow user:

blog.dilbert.com/post/129784168866/the-persuasion-reading-list

Says the idiot who was assuming this was an absolutist argument from the get-go, which screwed up your fucking reasoning because you are one BASIC BITCH.

God, no one was arguing for no taxes, yet here you go, inserting words into people's mouths.

It's like you're a fucking kid who can't comprehend anything but absolutes or some shit. BUT THAT'S JUST SILLY AINT IT

Fuck off Scott, I'm onto your marketing schemes. How about you link to a post where you talk actual persuasion techniques.

Notice how his entire blog is about blue balling you into checking out more of his shit and buying his book. Persuasion is a marketing meme, lads.

Instead of buying Scott's stupid book, do yourself a favor and check out real marketing, advertising and copywriting books (the ones where they talk concepts, principles and actual techniques), and you'll see what him and Trump have been doing all along. You'll also learn a shitton about american society in general.

In fact here are three books to get you started:

1. Crossing the chasm (this is about high-tech business-to-business marketing, but it features many marketing techniques and concepts)
2. Tested advertising methods
3. Spin selling

Scott's entire shtick is based around building his public profile and selling you his book. Although, I do have to admit, he's really good at it.

t. ex-marketer/copywriter

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No, his endorsement was always for his "personal safety" since he lives in California.

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Persuasion is pure disinfo, lad.

To be fair, I should read persuasion man's book so I can be fully informed when I say he's full of shit.

But don't you find it a little insulting that 80% of the books he listed in that blog post, he says he didn't actually read?

Why does he not post his seminal books? Why does he not post real techniques? The only trace of substance on his Must Read list is Erikson.

If you look at filterman as disinfo, Scott is not that far off.

Read between the lines instead of taking what he says at face value faggot.
This was his fake "because" he talked about constantly recently, and it finally allowed him to publicly go all in and look just fine in the process.
The election is fucking over, Trump wins, and Scott was shilling him this entire time.

Look faggot, it's either the same across the board, or it doesn't apply to anyone.

Stop sucking his dick like a useful idiot.

It's like every week Hillary does something to lose more voters. I should be glad, but god damn.

Saying taxes are theft is arguing for no taxes, if you think they're too high then say so.
You're the one who got caught abusing the words.

Inheritance taxes are reprehensible.

That being said, the federal tax level should be like 1%, and it would be if we were organized enough to prevent the IRS from looting our wealth in order to feed niggers.

I love Diblur Mang, he's great.

Hillary is finally learning the Don's tricks. 65%? High enough to get attention, but not high enough to walk away! She'll bring it down to a reasonable level and then everyone will see the light! That new number being the percentage she wanted all along.

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Scott Adams has been shilling for Trump for months.
Libs started harassing him and sending death threats for this, so he literally came out, said that Clinton supporters were violent (and Trump supporters were not) and that he was "endorsing" Clinton for his own personal safety. Then proceeded to continue shilling Trump.

According to him his transparent level 1 ruse actually worked because people stopped bugging him. It apparently worked on you too because your an idiot and take everything at face value. Lurk more.

Yep. A surge of adrenaline causing her heart rate to fluxuate.

There’s really no indication that she has any sort of subtlety as you would claim.

just switched my voter registration from libertarian to republican. Hail emperor Trump.

hello /leftycuck/

Why hould people be trusted with it?
Is not the government made of people?
Are not those same people no different than the rest of us?
What makes the dividing line, the hard line, between it all?

But without government who will steal my wages and give them to israel and saudi arabia?

noice false sense of security goy

Bleach makers, bread makers, batteries, anybody with the Kosher C on them.
Its already been taken care should you somehow win.

To be fair he was getting death threats and shit until he said he "supported" Hilary.

Honestly I'm in favor of raising estate taxes by a huge amount, assuming that income taxes are lowered as a result.

Still Hilary is a kike and I'm voting for Trump.

This is a true shekelcaust!

Any of you dumb niggers that thinks this will effect only rich kikes need to gas yourselves.

Under Ms. Clinton's plan with no step-up in basis, that daughter would owe capital gains taxes on $450,000, she said.

“This will seriously impact inheritances for many middle- and lower-income Americans,” Ms. Fillet said.

The step-up in basis applies to any appreciated asset in the estate that are not included in a qualified plan, such as an individual retirement account or a 401(k).

For instance, a couple buys a $50,000 house that is worth $500,000 when they die and leave it to their daughter. Today she receives a step-up in value to the current market price, and if she sells at that new market price, there are no tax consequences, Ms. Fillet said.

Under Ms. Clinton's plan with no step-up in basis, that daughter would owe capital gains taxes on $450,000, she said.

“This will seriously impact inheritances for many middle- and lower-income Americans,” Ms. Fillet said.

The step-up in basis applies to any appreciated asset in the estate that are not included in a qualified plan, such as an individual retirement account or a 401(k).

I should gas myself because i cant copy text correctly.

incorrect it starts with a capital gains tax on houses ANYONE inherits

So no reply, then. Thanks.

Good point. What this will really do is contribute to strangling the middle class' economic strength. Low-tiers are poor, high-tiers are sneaky, mid-tiers are fucked.

(check'em)

Don't believe the 500 million disinfo. Her proposed estate tax starts at taking 50% of any estate worth over 10 million. The 65% rate applies to companies over 500 million, but that's irrelevant compared to taking 50% of medium-sized businesses.

And what are the loopholes?
I rather disbelieve any tax numbers over 200k as then you can get accountants and lawyers to make it all vanish.

wrong it hits anyone who inherits a house, technically it starts at ANY amount. Varying on the value of the house.

A nigger who gets a 10000$ home in Detroit would owe 2800$ if grandpa nigger got the house for a 1$ in 1930s

Is hillary trying to lose intentionally ?

web.archive.org/web/20160924164116/http://www.investmentnews.com/article/20160923/FREE/160929959/advisers-say-this-part-of-hillary-clintons-estate-tax-plan-is-worse

also archive for article to tax the fuck out of everyone, capital gains it currently 28%

They had always planned this.

Fucking scum.

This is the dumbest I've ever seen.

Do these people really fathom the effect of that?
It would cause staggering economic problems.
It would impede on the 1% by crippling production.

What the fuck is wrong with (((them))) are they insanely old or something?

I don't think "Muh PR" means what you think it means.

Scott's superior writing keeps the lads like you in check while we can talk in peace

All boomers have is a giant pile of debt, they never saved and their big houses are already mortgaged and the money spent.

Citation needed.

what a communist jew

youd think itd be great in that specific situation but you dont see the whole picture.

the rapage was so powerful that i audibly hallucinated airhorns and snoop doggs smoke weed everyday

How the fuck do you know that, poorfag?

Inherited wealth is much more often than not retained - it has a positive correlation to IQ, not as extreme as median income but still undeniable. That's why I find commie whining about the mean, dumb aristocrats so funny. You literally are inferior and deserve to be exactly as poor as you are. Yep, you're right it's unfair they were "born" into it, but they were born into good genes, and a lineage of good genes, not just some coincidental material prosperity.

And you really are double digits if you think any modern government, besides maybe Bhutan, would actually put that counterproductively stolen money towards something noble or good for their people.

back to lefty pol, loser

This tbh. Shillary is talking about raising taxes while dodging taxes with offshore bank accounts, as every leftist millionaire does. The hypocrisy is disgusting. If you're an American citizen, you should pay taxes for all of your income, no matter where you pipe it from or where you hide it. In addition to fixing the tax loophole problem, a solution that taxes your shady foreign accounts would also discourage (((dual citizenship))) among the upper class.

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He is a kid. I'm 70% sure he's underage, 100% he's under 23. Why did you even engage with him at all, newfag?

Or you could just, you know, address the actual problem of disloyalty by simply banning dual citizenship, Holla Forums cuck.

Not happening in the foreseeable future. Fortunately, Trump wants to close up those kike loopholes, so that even with the lower tax rates they'll actually end up paying more.

smells fishy to me.
the only way to explain this: she did it on purpose!

something is going on. she could have lied like she and obama did in the past, but she said what she will do before the election.

REMEBER
both clinton and trump have jew grandchildren. dont trust blindly anyone of them

She did do it on purpose hoping Trump would take the bait and complain about it or explain how it is bad for the economy, etc. If he did that, Clinton would follow up by pushing the "Trump is really greedy and only wants to be president to hold onto more of his money with lower estate taxes" angle. Trump evidently sidestepped that ploy with pic related explaining how that is a dumb idea for purely strategic reasons and memeing the loss of Never Trump, farmers, special interest, etc. support for Clinton. 3d chess wins again.

What is AMT?

By which fucking right can the government tax your estate when you die. You ALREADY PAID all the taxes on that estate when you earned the money to purchase it through your income tax, and taxes were paid to build the damn thing. You already pay property tax to maintain it.

What fucking justification is there for an estate tax to even exist? I understand the income tax: your government funds the military and police forces to protect your ability to work and do business safely, builds bridges and tunnels to allow you to travel to work in a reasonable way etc, but how do they justify the estate tax? You died and now the government wants a share of your property which you already paid for fair and square?

Many users talk about humor in politics but it seems they ironically lost their sarcasm at the same time

you gave me a chuckle so i give you a checkle