So why aren't you faggots talking about Trump repealing net neutrality? Is it because thinking hurts?

why bother thinking for yourself when you can just do the opposite of what your perceived "enemy" do ?.
lets justs just be sheep.

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I hope you are trolling.
Google, Facebook and Apple want net neutrality because ISPs will charge them for higher bandwidth.
I want net neutrality because they will also charge me for higher bandwidth.

Trump cultists on Holla Forums have a severe case of cognitive dissonance. These are the same people who complain up and down about how kike owned corporations are fucking conservatives and censoring them while simultaneously insisting these kike owned corporations should be handed more power over what you read and watch.

not surprised, your stupidity was showing.

i know you don't have the cognitive ability to understand this but i'll try to dumb it down for your fellow Americans who might be reding this.

to give you an image of what's happening, you're basically trying to turn a public place working under public laws (freedumb of speech n sheit) into a private propriety owned by your ISP.
they'll decide what you're allowed to see and say.

now i don't see how that would be good for anyone beside ISPs themselves.
could you provide some ?.

not that i care or will be affected, i'm not American, its just your cognitive dissonance that i find unbearable.
you'd kill your mother if Trump told you to, this is some serious case of brainwashing and nigger cattle behavior.

We have no net neutrality to repeal. Obama's plan allowed zero-rating and 'reasonable network management' which is why shit like t-mobile's binge-on and bittorrent throttling were legal. The companies right now claiming to be fighting for NN are the biggest offenders when it comes to zero-rating, especially in the developing world where they fear local competition might arise. It's all a game to get you stirred up for the midterms, like a #BLM for whitey.

Net neutrality is a crock. The existing rules are meaningless and unenforceable. 0% of the legislators and 95% of the "activists" who bleat about net neutrality don't understand even the basic technical issues. Ultimately, all ISPs will end up having to charge by-the-byte, probably with congestion pricing, just because the current business model (where Netflix, Hulu, etc. get to use the "last mile" effectively for free) is not sustainable. Virtually all backbone and local traffic at this point is either streaming video or porn, so anyone bringing up news sites, political blogs, etc. is just throwing up straw men.

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So, if and when repealing NN becomes a shit show, will you be admitting you're wrong? That Trump/the right are wrong?

I'm aware I'm right as I told you fuckers back when this passed that it was worse than worthless as it legalized zero-rating and then all the companies ran off and abused it exactly as I'd warned. But this is the first you've heard of this and you think it's suddenly a crisis because you only hear what's spammed on reddit.

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Joogle can already shut your site down
how much more power can they have?

what does gamergate think about it? are they still alive? I would trust their opinion on the topic

choose one & only one

if the isp you pay loadsamoney monthly for a shit tier internet connection decides that Holla Forums is bad for their reputation, they'll stuff the data with ghost packets and you'll wait 25 minutes for the catalog to load. meanwhile in europe, where we pay 30 dollars a month for fibre, 100 channel tv and a mobile number all in one, we'll be laughing heartily at the third worldly mutts growing fatter while they wait for content.

maybe you should read what you're replying to first, faggot
and why do you care anyway?

it's mainly Google fighting against the repeal
Soros is also defending NN
that's all the evidence I need

If Google and Soros told you not to jam a cactus up your ass, would you do it just to spite them?

nice straw man

Okay buddy. I'm sure the jews running Time Warner Cable and Comcast, in all their benevolence, will allow the tiny anti-semitic, alt-right, neo-nazi breeding ground of 8ch free reign once they're given more power.

so in other words nothing changes

because this isn't Holla Forums

Sshh user, that goes against the narrative

yeah, I never really cared about trump, but he is starting to fuck my internet, and that is when I start to care.
why don't you worry about the wall, fucking idiot

he is? how?

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trust the corporations to compete with each other by offering a better, cheaper service, go on, trust them. it's not like they already pocketed 400 billion (i shit you not) for promised and undelivered improvements to infrastructure. remember the fibre in every highschool meme?
god help america. brainwashed barely describes you

I trust corporations to do what's in their own self interest, aka undercut other corporations' prices and steal their business.

what is poliopoly for 500 Alex

The number of ISPs is so small collusion is more profitable.

he is allowing all this, and I am pretty sure he picked the nigger pushing for this

It's a monopoly by another name which, refer to the nifty graph in my previous post

As long as that's the case it will always profitable for someone to make a new ISP

you need infrastructure to provide internet, and the isps aren't going to let other isps use their lines.
monopolies are inevitable with this framework, and completion is going to take a lot of time and money to come about, plenty for things to be shit for us

Trump clearly is pro net neutrality. He is comparing it to the old Fairness Doctrine, which essentially is the same law. It makes sure nobody is just representing one interest or gains a clear monopoly and that nobody will be targeted and attacked for spreading their opinions/beliefs. It 100% is a great law, same as Net Neutrality just a different name.

((They)) clearly won when they abolished the fairness doctrine but Net Neutrality quickly replaced it to ensure fairneas and prevent blatant corrupt dictatorship that censors all opposing views.

This means Trump is definitely pro freedom of speech and internet. GGWP our daddy has got our backs bros

Well I didnt say it was going to be immediate, but I do think it is inevitable. Eventually there will be competition, and the longer we wait, the more shit things get, the sooner there is competition

well if you're wedded to the fallacy of competition is good, then retain nn and designate the internet as a public utility like water and telephones, ensuring the public has an equal right to access the basic necessities, without means testing.
on the other hand, to avoid becoming the only 1st world country without universal healthcare and a protected internet, you can just hope trump backs down. it would be a win

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I'm feelin' pretty good personally, Holla Forums.

it would be so bad if ISPs would forced to share their lines, then market forces would take care of any monopolies
still wouldn't take care of ISPs trying funnel traffic to sites they own

Some areas don't have a choice. ISPs there have a de facto monopoly.

because it doesn't affect me

i hope it gets repealed in ancap america but its good over here in a country with actual europeans in it

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A right is not something that is created and invented by man white men, like 97% of everything

t. libtard

it's more likely than you think

don't you mean 56%?
cwhatididthere

Trump is the Best Goy on the market today. He was just edgy enough to bait people into supporting him, but he was kosher from the start.
Why do you think he's recognizing Jerusalem as Israel's capital?

But that's impossible in a Democracy.

Access to the internet is not a right.
If anything, perhaps this will get people off of their asses to enact lasting political change.

I don't know what net neutrality is and I give so little of a shit about it to find out, but I know that it's been turned into one of the most obnoxious attention phrases lately and spouted by redditors and liberal cunts, so I'm going to assume it's something I should be happy about going away.

Bitter dirty old man

what?

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net neutrality is padding trumps wallet. this is a good business move for him in the future.
(nice trips)
definitely a strawman argument. make it about shutting down ISIS websites and you’re golden.
start slowing down internet to a crawl on 8 chan Holla Forums and boom no free speech. it’s brilliant.

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See:

You didn't answer the question, though. If repealing NN ends of being a shit show of mass proportions, however unlikely you believe that to be, will you admit that you and Trump are wrong?

They would clearly support NN. Pretty much everyone supports NN, even most of Trump's base. The only people against NN at this point are Holla Forumstards that deify Trump and think he can do no wrong.

Being against Trump repealing NN is a mainstream and important issue. Why would you assume it's a topic that should only be talked about on Holla Forums?

Strange that the narrative is more important than everyone's best interest, isn't it?

By being openly against NN since the beginning and appointing someone to the head of the FCC to repeal it. So, doing literally everything in his power to repeal NN. Are you retarded?

This pretty much sums it up.

Since you're posting on Holla Forums I assume that's something that you like to do. Well… you're not going to be doing that much longer without NN.

No, mostly it is because we are smart enough to know that no government can control anything that happens online no matter how hard they try or how many laws they enact.
It is easy to say that providers can throttle connection speeds, and it is easy for them to do it. But it is not so easy to compete against a company that doesn't. Whether that company is a legitimate business or not is irrelevant.
The internet was made for the free and open exchange of ideas, and it was designed so that ultimate control resided in the hand of the end users. It still does, and unless they change the very fundamantal structure of the internet it will always be that way. So this is ultimately a non-issue for anyone with half a brain.

It sure is, user

So, if repealing NN ends up being a huge catastrophe like almost everyone thinks it will be, will you admit you and Trump are wrong and that NN should be reinstated?

Are we all completely out of our fucking mind!?

Is 8 years of Obama really all it took to fucking brainwash an entire population of retards into thinking Net Neutrality is even necessary? On top of FTC regulations and acts such as the Rural Electrification act giving government provisions for broadband internet already?!

Why are pro-NN retards so bad at politics?

Trump is not wrong, he doesn't care and is just doing what his masters are telling him to.
US presidents have always been more or less good goys, but this one is in a different league.

i'm fairy sure he'd suck Bibi's dick in public if he asked him to.

I ask you this same question:

jesus you retards, just listen to the fucking cat…

I guess, sure. I'm also not a cuck faggot that makes the internet his entire lofe though and you shouldn't be either. Regardless, all I see from the PRO-NN crowd is them trying desperately to dumb down the issue onto meme-payment plan pictures and the worst part is normalfags are falling for it

The government still have provisions regarding the distribution of internet, aa I already mentioned, so I can't really see how NN was ever necessary. I think you're just retarded

Your ' question' presupposes the answer you want, kike. Like I said, we lost the fight for NN many years ago. The horror stories you shareblue faggots are spamming have already happened. You kept it quiet during Obama's term that facebook, netflix, wikipedia, etc. were all making huge zero-rating deals with Obama's "NN" as a basis and many people who were kept in the dark are now surprised to learn about them some 5 years after they started. There's nothing more to lose, all that's left is a slow decent into market acceptance.
On the rare chance that you actually believe your own bullshit, I want you to know this outcome was due to your blind loyalty to your traitorous party. All my posts on plebbit explaining to the normalfags what they were going to do with zero-rating (I work at a relatively high level in networking and knew the game plan) were downvoted until hidden 5 years ago by you leftist shits and you declared NN mission accomplished.

zero rating is the practise by isps of allowing access to certain sites without the data counting for your payment plan. it in no way affects the speed of your connection to those sites.
without nn, isps will be free to stifle or simply ban sites they don't like or which compete with their own interests. if nn is repealed, how long do you think it will be before the sjw harridans are shaming isps into banning Stormfrog and 8chad?
the whole purpose of the repeal attempt is to put more money into the telecom giants' treasury by enabling them to charge you more for less than what you get atm. if they were serious about ploughing this money into infrastructure rather than shareholders' pockets, why are most americans still hostage to using the 1950's copper wire network intended for landlines?

Thanks for posting that video. I now know we need to remove net neutrality!

You're mentally stuck on this being about speed for some reason. Speed is irrelevant. Imagine this extreme scenario: if your bandwidth cap was 1 byte per month and $100 per meg but facebook and reddit were free you'd feel forced to spend your time there, right? That's what they can do under Obama's sham "neutrality". They already do this at varying levels in the developing world, and they've started acclimating you to it in the first world (see: t-mobile). It's all legal already. They can turn those knobs up slowly until you're living in that world of having to subscribe to packages of websites.
Again: that's already legal, and the abuses have already happened. The nightmare scenario you guys envision is already the present, you just weren't told about it because kike media hid it from you.

Why do you jerks act like net neutrality is still a thing? Like there's equal chances for information to be reached. Google in their search engine uses unfair algorithms for those who pay better or lie more. Nothing but politically correct garbage can be found there, even Holla Forums is ungoogable. Youtube of course is the same, anything conservative is targeted and pushed so far away that you need to share links to find it. ISP's already blocking whatever is told them to block. Net neutrality has been lost for at least 10 years now. That's why chan's are some of the last bastions of freedom where one can still share and discuss whatever big nose dislikes sniffing,

Are you guys retarded? He is saying that censorship is bad and will target conservative media.
You shills couldn't even edit a tweet to make him look bad so instead you just read it like a nigger?

Holla Forums are technoilliterate (which arguably just comes with being retarded), they will never understand these issues

This is the great misdirection that you Holla Forums fags fell for. You think Net Neutrality has anything to do with the ISP monopolies. I'm not sure where you idiots get this from, but it's so obviously wrong that I'm not sure why I'm bothering to tell you; you'll just believe what you want anyway like the gullible little goyim you are.

blog.kissmetrics.com/speed-is-a-killer/
you are misinformed about the importance of speed, user

Almost everyone thought Jersey Shore was quality television. Almost everyone thought that the Y2K bug would be a catastrophe. Almost everyone thought Clinton would win.
I hate to be the one to bust your bubble here user, but the fact is that the collective public mind is severely retarded. Popularity is a sure measure of how badly something actually sucks.

You know what's sad? If it so happened to be that the right/Trump was the one pushing for NN the majority of the left would still embrace it. Simply because it's just blatantly obvious it's how things should be. But Holla Forums… Holla Forums just can't go against their narrative no matter what. Holla Forums has become more of a cult than a political movement. There is literally no excuse to be against NN.

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If obama wanted to protect the internet he should had not give control to the fucking UN

you epitomise american political tribalism. one side of a mindless dichotomy fires salvos over the other's head. whichever side fears the other most backs off, comes back, repeat, repeat, repeat.
are you surprised at the governing class's contempt for the american electorate?

This is a baffling excuse to me. If you think what google is doing is wrong, why do you want to give the chance for ISPs to do the exact same thing? You can't google 8ch, and now you want to give ISPs the power to block people from using this site at all? We just should hope that ISPs don't hide conservative websites behind a paywall instead of making it illegal for them to do that?

The age of the cuckservative is over, Holla Forums.

Maybe when you're done sniffing your own farts, you should start considering why your side is getting their shit pushed in.

dumb pipe when?

shill detected
this isn't about your mindless tribalism
it isn't lefty vs righty, it isn't even a dichotomy
it's about keeping control of the internet out of big business's hands.

Well I suppose when your natural inclination is to sell out your people to the foreign hordes, it would seem like that.

This is the inebriated "right winger" leddit shits out. No critical thinking involved, if left does X respond by doing Y regardless of what X means or the result of Y.

Why are you such a massive stereotype?

Once again,
Go suck Bill Kristol's dick if you're looking for a "right winger" to support you. The rest of us aren't here to do Holla Forums's bidding.

Mindlessly supporting your own side is what is… well, mindless.

It comes down to there being literally no argument for being against NN. Which means the only reason you're against it is because of tribalism. Mindless tribalism is dumb and counterproductive for everyone except for the people that exploit it.

I suppose you're just too smart to win, aren't you Reddit?

I support what I actually believe, regardless of party lines. Unlike you who is a willing sheep.

Sorry Holla Forums, but I think I'll just sit here and watch your side self-destruct as you bitch about how "stupid" we are for not doing what you say.

The fact that you keep calling people 'Holla Forums' is very telling. You obviously have traded your critical thinking skills for group think years ago.

Oh! Look! A thread! About a subject! I'm going to argue with anyone stopid enough to take my bait! Ooooh! I am so edgy! I am so Alpha! Read my words and tremble at the power of my superior wisdom and insight, thou mere amateur flamers. Dare you even rise to attempt to mock me? I fear not your futile childish attempts. Be gone, slight little man.

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You aren't fooling anyone, Holla Forums.

I'm sure you'll be congratulating yourself on your supreme critical thinking skills as Muhammad saws your head off with a kitchen knife.

1) I have no idea what Holla Forums believes.

2) I'm not a centrist.

3) Even if I were Holla Forums, a communist, or a Nazi, that has nothing to do with the argument at hand and a basic ad hominem fallacy.

4) Deflecting the argument to something that some random group believes how nothing to do with the topic at hand.

You're still wrong about repealing NN. And your refusal to make any actual argument exposes you for what you really are: a zealot that will defend his tribe no matter how wrong they are.

Oh, of course you don't.

On the contrary, it has everything to do with the argument at hand. Leftists have as their goal the destruction of European culture, people, and nations. So anyone who is not a self-hating cuckold must fight the eternal Leftist on every issue.

Because Net Neutrality is deciding "Should website corporations get the right to censor me or should Internet providers get the right to censor me?

Don't worry, even if you wanted you wouldn't be able to make heads or tails from it. Net Neutrality is a scam, it's unnecessary government overreach made purposefully confusing so that normal people don't know which side they should be on.
Right now you burgers have garbage internet because of monopolies from money hungry companies who stomp out competition with the backing of the state.

What does need to happen is for the lobbying of these corporations to stop and for competition to be allowed to take place. You don't do that adding more bureaucracy and legislation, but by repealing/removing the shit that made this situation possible in the first place.

Alright. So you admit you are only against NN for tribalistic reasons. Cool, argument over. You've been exposed.

You see everyone, these are the people against NN. There is no real argument.

Is there any better reason?

Hey I'm from leftypol. Whatever you do, don't eat your own shit. this isn't a right or left thing. I think we can all agree that you absolutely should not eat your own shit and upload the video here. Forget about political dichotomies. Eating your own shit is not something you should do. I don't want you to eat your own shit and it probably isn't good for you to do so. We here on the left absolutely want you to deter from eating your own shit.

I'll take strawman for $1000, Alex.

you confound net neutrality with content neutrality. the latter is already lost but 8ch exists because the owners of the pipework can't interfere with your and my packets of data, i.e. net neutrality.
in simpleton terms, 8ch exists because your isp is obliged by law to process its traffic in the same way as that of facebook or fox. jim's servers cough up the filth and verizon etc can't refuse to transport it at the same speed as any other legal site. repeal nn and conditions may apply.
repeal nn and new sites, new businesses will need billions in seed money to compete for bandwidth.
do you use tor? are you sure your isp will continue to support it?
how the fuck do you expect freedom of speech and unhindered interwebs access to survive? how will repealing oio impprove your life?

I'll just leave this here…

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Communists are so lacking in creativity that I'm not even sure if they can be classified as human.

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From a young age, good citizens are cultivated with entertainment such as sports to train them to be religious fanatics of a team or an idol of their choosing, and later this follows them in all other areas of life. When these citizens grow into adults, they have adopted the habit of only seeing important issues through the lens of which side the "good guys" have chosen, and failing the existence of this, adopting the opposing stance of the "bad guys". Instead of thinking critically about what should be done, it becomes easier for these trained dogs to resort to the same old ways rather than devote energy to independent thought, and if a wild thought arises, it becomes shameful to agree, even superficially, with the team they despise.

Forgive me if I do not characterize the situation accurately; I haven't been paying attention to the matter. Regarding net neutrality, the advocates have said that ISPs should treat all data without bias, and the opposition has said a lack of freedom for ISPs prevents technological innovation. I'm sure much else has been said, but I don't see the point in getting stuck in the mud with details when the basic facts of the situation are so simple: the elite classes and governments of the world loathe the internet and any platform for free and dangerous speech and while they encroach on these freedoms more and more, little by little, it is frequently done by baby steps, because they can only do so much when constitutions guarantee free speech and patriots passionately insist that those rights don't go away. And as it stands, we still have enough freedom to be dangerous.

Recently it was revealed that many senators have received bribes to go against net neutrality, and I am not surprised. If rich elites cannot clamp down on free speech effectively through governments or legislation, they would be very clever if they instead used their influence on corporations that normally (if only there wasn't net neutrality) have no lawful responsibility to give citizens platforms for free speech, in order to freely censor and shutdown like a land owner removing someone from private property. This talk of potential innovation should net neutrality end sounds not unlike another bribe, or hinting at one, but this time for the citizens instead of senators should we collectively give up our platform of speech.

I don't know enough to say net neutrality is perfect, but what's more important: that the status quo is maintained so that society still has this outlet for more or less free speech or that big corporations and their elite buddies get a new chance at suppression and control of the masses?

why do i always feel like that guy has no soul ?, there is something very odd about his pictures.

he looks 100% untrustable.

he is psychopath and has no real emotions
his smile is hard learned front of mirror

Then so is the fight.
>are you sure your isp will continue to support it?
I can give less of a shit as to whether or not it does, if it bans the websites I use then I'll simply take my business elsewhere and the isp monopoly will be broken down because of such.
As I said, nothing matters.

Hello Holla Forumstards.

You are aware 8/pol/ (and the rest of this site since the Freemason took over) is completely compromised and the actual first exodus 8/pol/acks are gone, yes? You can't even make NatSoc threads there now, they will be anchored and the OC contributing OPs banned for no good reason. That is not Holla Forums, it is a bunch of Freemasons and Neocons dancing around in Holla Forums's skin.

This blew up after the April 1st "hack", I'm not sure why it's fucking Groundhog Day with this shit ever since. 8/pol/ is about as Holla Forums as Holla Forums. Be advised, niggers!

Good.

He's a shitskin, of course he has no soul.

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It's the same for christcucks on Holla Forums

lmfaooooo

I'm pretty sure we all agree that nn is good and that anyone still supporting Trump at this point is just too prideful to admit it. So can we offer amnesty to all the retards too ashamed to come forward?

Not much longer now.

i hat net nutralety

Access to the ability to speak and contribute to society is a right. We're all human and therefore must have the ability to contribute to humanity. I would say the same if people voted to stitch all poor peoples' mouths shut.

i don't think it's good, but not having isn't either. pick your rape sock smell. if they go full into Title ii regulation, they'll be able to censor. Which would eventually happen under NN.
On the other hand, the gubmint allows (and criminalizes opposition to) infrastructure monopoly. I'd rather not go to jail tho

me to budy

Holla Forums wasn't NatSoc until 8 astroturfed and lied you monumental revisionist faggot