I am currently working on an Alt-Network that is physically disconnected from the internet for chans. My current proposal is in the pdf file. I would have uploaded the plain-text but freemason jim can't seem to make Holla Forums recognize .txt.
I am calling it AutiNet (short for Autistic Net) and it will use protocols similar to basic TC/IP but will not be. Pic related is a (poorly drawn) visualization of what I've made so far.
I hope that this can work. Right now it's purely in a conceptual phase. The goal is not anomyity but a simple alt-net. In fact, they way I've set it up prohibits anomyity. The primary goal is for if SHTF you can distribute shit.
Furthermore, I may remove the tidbit about a central authority. Other IRCFags are suggesting to me I use DHT instead. I am unsure.
It does not use the telephone system. It uses WiFi, and a scheme similar to IPv4. Hosts are designated using UUCP-like addresses so not quite
but very close
Landon Hill
Small fix to my original upload
Asher Myers
It's pretty good, but what if there was a system where you could specify the remote server's logical address without caring about the physical topology of the network?
Chase Morris
That's what DNS is for. I don't think we should use DNS because it allows for anyone connecting to the wireless network to easily resolve anything. This is why I want to maintain and distribute a host file myself based on submitted topolgy of the network.
Ryder Perez
What did he mean by this?
Jayden Powell
What I mean by this is that it doesn't connect ot the actual "Internet". It's a network completly seperated from what is known as the "Public Internet". It's completrly independent. If you can't grasp this concept you need to lurk moar
Charles Lewis
Looking for any suggestions, improvements, etc.
Owen Bailey
Don't blame me for your creation of a new term then asking for clarification. One thing I can say for sure is that I hope you enjoy your super high ping rates and low bandwidth capacity.
Evan Phillips
How do you connect to this subnet?
Jordan Rivera
It will use standard Wireless Fidelity to connect into the city-wide LAN (Tier-1 Metropolitan Network) which connects to the LDRelayNDs (Tier-2) which connects to the other various city-wide LANs (Tier-1). Whole thing is done via WiFi and not wired since hobbiests couldn't did their own fiberoptic lines accross the country.
Colton Powell
I'm going to try to explain this better here.
Imagine you are in your bedroom, right? And you see a network within range. It's "184", ok? Well 184 would be a Relay ND. By connecting to 184 you are now in the LAN and can resolve the various hosts. It may be better to have hidden SSIDs so the curious don't stumble upon our little secret net and ruin it
Nathan Lewis
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Jack Bennett
It has been suggested to me that instead of implement my own protocol I use CJDNS for the proposed mesh network. What are your opinions on CJDNS
Leo Edwards
Good luck getting any Autists when you can't Vidya across it.
Lincoln Reed
True, true. Very sad but the few we do get on our network will probably be worthwhile companions. Agian, I ask if CJDNS is superior to my initial protocol draft. I did not know of CJDNS when I initiated this project. Apparently it does what I'm trying to do better, people have told me. Thoughts?
Blake Hughes
By this logic we should assume that tor and i2p have no users.
Jordan Gonzalez
Numerous people have advised me that CJDNS is superior so now my goal will to create a Howto Guide as well as a disc image for the Raspberry Pi/Orange Pi/Bannana Pi to install the networking software. If anyone interested in this opposes transfering to CJDNS over my draft protocol please let me know. I've only been working on this entire project for two days and have only heard of CJDNS for the past 45 minutes when it was told that I made a shitty clone of it.
I really do hope to get an actual Metro network working soon and then connect top other metro networks. I think that with the right persuasian we could get groups such as the Daily Stormer Book Clubs to do this. Since I'm a member I expect my own local club to help out with my project so thre's that right there.
Zachary Davis
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Jacob Green
802.11 is just really too limited in range to be used exclusively. You would need shitloads of nodes to cover a city, and even then would probably end up with separate pockets that lack interconnections. You should start experimenting right away with other carriers as well. Here's a good start: github.com/lulzlabs/AirChat ronja.twibright.com/ Anyway I guess the computer hardware should also be more flexible. Basically any ARM SBC that can run Linux or BSD should do the trick, so long as the networking hardware you plan to use is fully supported by the OS. The rest is just regular Unix stuff, and should work fine in any POSIX environment. Nothing wrong with having a reference implementation, but don't marry your standard to any hardware or OS. It should be flexible and adaptable.
Brayden Taylor
that was the moment i realized people like to complain but they like playing jewish video games even more.
I mean imagine this
Isaiah Powell
This is why I own Microsoft stocks. Normies will never learn.
Juan Walker
How will routing work? Since your proposal uses a mesh topology and a broadcast medium, you'll have to design it to avoid flooding the network. For example, if A sends a message, B and C can hear it. B and C may not be in range of each other, so neither knows about the other. If B and C then broadcast the message from A, then you have 2 copies of the message traveling through the network and wasting bandwidth. This could continue over each hop, and if there's nothing to prevent it, messages could multiply and loop through the network forever.
Also, by what authority do nodes get assigned a number? How do other nodes in an area know when a message has reached its intended recipient?
Eli Phillips
does it have a logo?
Gavin Murphy
So if someone sets it up next to me I'll be able to see the essid that connects to networkMaryland?
Josiah Morgan
thanks for that bit of D&C, shlomo -
really helpful advice, Rabbi.
high-latency and low bandwidth is better than what we have now, which is NOTHING.
I envision something similar to CB radio but for data. Shitty, but it works.
Fuck, if you had the right baud-modulation you might be able to utilize CB as medium for data transfer even.
Evan Morris
Mr Bergenstein, surely you are aware that CB frequencies are licensed territory? Someone of your financial situation may have the means to pay this every year but you now expect the rest of us goyim to get these licenses?
Zachary Powell
I find it ironic that you claim we have nothing when having nothing implies that Holla Forums would not even exist.
Nicholas Rogers
REINVENTING THE WHEEL - SQUARE THIS TIME!
Brayden Collins
actually, ham radio operators have access to useful spectrum for long range stuff and the license lasts 10y. i think there are some restrictions on encryption, but that may be changing.
Carter Russell
My computer has broke so any and all development has been put-off. We will most likely be using CJDNS rather than the protocol I drafted. By the time I get my comp fixed/new comp it will most likely be bumped off the board. I am forced to use Windows 10 right now as every public computer in my town runs it. This makes me sick to my stomach and furthermore allows the Zionist-Controlled NSA to know where I am so I will not be communicating much during this interum period. To my IRCFriends who are checking this thread please take note. Thanks.
Jacob Bailey
Id like to interject for a moment. What you refer to as CB is actually citizen's band, or as I've recently taken to calling it, chicken band. CB is not the only radio service, but rather another radio service in the allocated spectrum as defined by FCC and ITU regulations.
Many operators use the CB system everyday without realizing it is separate from the amateur service. Through a peculiar turn of events, CB was set apart for use by anyone without a license. Many of its users are not aware that it is basically only used by truckers.
The amateur service does require alicense, which can be obtained by passing an examination. CB radio is actually more restricted. You can not modify your radio, and you have a very low legal power limit. Amateur radio is much freer allowing the use of modes other than telephony, including data and television.the amateur service also spans across multiple bands, from 160 meters past microwave.
Hudson Jackson
mid 90's, OTP encrypted chat, linux AX.25 + Packet radio TNC 1200 bps/half duplex + CB Good times. HAM DMR is hot shit now. hose.brandmeister.network/
Sebastian Foster
This requires a LOT of support from people all across the world all for a micro-imageboard nobody will use, and even if it is achieved how you imagine it, it has very serious technical problems that cannot be surmounted without magic. If you can't take reasonable feedback, how are you ever going to get this project off the ground? These problems should be obvious if you know anything about what you are trying to accomplish. I like to daydream about meshnets just as much as you but I realize they are a very niche field with current technology and legal structures.
Ayden Johnson
1200 bps though, ouch. I've used 2400 bps modem to access a dialup shell account, and that was slow enough that you had to wait while the text came down the phone line and watch it being printed to the screen. Basically, forget about graphics and imageboards entirely if you're going that slow. You're now in 7-bit ASCII land.
Nathan Gomez
The reason he called you Shlomo D&C (and I have to agree with him), is you didn't actually provide any useful feedback whatsoever. Your statement can pretty much be summed up as: just give up, goyim. If that's all you're going to offer, then don't bother.
Aaron Long
Why not TCP/IP?
Aaron Myers
hmm, would secretly associating it with universities be a good idea? or would they flip tables at a reference to neurodevelopmental disorders?
Brody Howard
That wasn't me he was talking to but regardless, his point is valid: That's useful feedback. Who is going to use this when its performance is suboptimal, there is no anonymity, and the Internet works just fine?
Plus what I said, And in addition, this project is being started from scratch because OP didn't bother looking around for existing solutions. IPFS plus meshnet software (Byzantium, FreedomBox) fills this niche, or at least comes close to it. Engineering 101: Instead of reinventing the wheel, massage existing solutions to reach your goal.
Satisfied?
Angel Scott
y-you realize its illegal to encrypt anything that goes over certain output levels, right?
NORMIES NEED TO BE WIPPED FROM THE SURFACE OF THE EARTH
Logan Torres
To be honest I think porn would be the bigger issue for folks on this website(not me of course) but to be fair no vidya means no kids so less summerfags.
Jayden Peterson
Not for me either. I prefer to read erotic fictions.
Josiah Price
By your logic, 99% of software shouldn't exist. We only need one web browser, one email client, one OS, etc. Except no, we need a lot more choices and flexibility.
Ryder Nguyen
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Cooper Jenkins
I have returned with a fixed but still slightly broken computer! Now we can resume discussion about making our pet project. Currently visualizing a logo and people still have to comment on CJDNS. My protocol, I now realize, is missing a lot of key information for implementation and CJDNS does what I'm attempting to do (better even. It uses encryption and WoT kinds of things and IPv6/tranditional hostnames) so we will most likely be using CJDNS. Totally unsure if something better than CJDNS even exists. Is there still support for my project though, CJDNS or not?
Camden Thomas
I didn't want to use traditional TC/IP because I thought that for the protocol I was making this setup where each digit in a 9-section sequence corrosponding to geographical location would simply be better. Furthermore, I thought it would be nice to make it more retro, like the original Apranet. It existed before TC/IP existed. It was neat.
Dominic Ortiz
There have ben a lot of funny-named things made in the past at Universities. Fuck the SJW crowd, man
If you have a server connected to the network and you're hosting content that's legal within the United States then I don't care. Hell, I might even go with the DOST Test thing Holla Forums used to have. Yeah, pretty much no rules on the network that I see. In fact, not really sure how I'd block nodes, even with CJDNS
James Morgan
I was going to ask why create something new when CJDNS exists. I can't see much value in this project, you'd spend your time better promoting CJDNS and/or physically setting up nodes for it.
Henry Nguyen
Let's be honest, all efforts to ban /hebe/ probably just moved them on the darknet, which is even harder to track, and law enforcement looking to arrest pedos just has a harder time now.
Trying to create safe spaces is always a terrible idea. If someone is abusing kids, you don't try and find a technical solution to it, you track him down and if he's fapping to bikini pictures I don't even care
Grayson Martinez
Either you're serious about freedom, or you're a cianigger jew who's constantly working to subvert software standards and implementations.
Elijah Young
Yeah, didn't know this existed. Anyhoo, is there still interest in the project if we move to CJDNS for a national Interconnected Network?
Ryan Rivera
bump
Caleb Edwards
Binary logic is a sign of autism. Also non sequitur
Very interesting links and they trigger my autism in an excuisite way.
If this network is going to work there will need to be many different types of interlinks. Here's a couple videos of autists using HAM radio to get on the Internet
Ultra low baud rate which means text only, which I'd be pretty excited to go back to
Don't have any technical knowledge I can contribute but if such a (normie-free) network existed I'd be on it 24/7
Probably a silly question but could some blockchain style encryption be used? So that the traffic passing through nodes could be encrypted (basically so that if pedofags are sharing shit nose operators don't get v& for something they didn't have anything to do with)
Carter Parker
For God's sake, just use GNUnet!
Luke Torres
You parrot big words that you heard someone else say, but when faced with the reality that "muh children", "muh terrorism", and "muh drugs" are the primary excuses used to chip away at our freedom, your brain goes into cianigger induced short-circuit.
Cameron White
CJDNS implements this, my protocol lacks this but could theoretically be implemented with some kind of DHT service. Pretty much the IRC channel I made is 90% for CJDNS with some people thinking my own protocol just needs more work. Thread has not commented intensively on the CJDNS vs my protocol. This will be the big thing going forward. I do not know what to do, my protocol or a pre-existing one whether it be CJDNS or not.
Angel Walker
bump
Hunter Garcia
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Sebastian Bell
You should drop it, gambler's fallacy. It's always good to decouple your stuff. CJDNS handles the underlying transport fine, you can plug any type of ghetto meshnet into it as long as it can transport data from point A to point B. Then you can build/run other stuff on top of that. CJDNS exposes an IPv6 interface, so you don't need to modify stuff to run on it. You could use for example IPFS to transport data, and then write an imageboard engine on top of that.
