Could the tragedies of Hiroshima and Nagasaki have been avoided...

Could the tragedies of Hiroshima and Nagasaki have been avoided? Was there a way to resolve this conflict before all those lives were lost? Do we as a species have too much power over the elements?

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Yes. If Japan had forfiet and end the war when the US said so, then they wouldn´t have been nuked

Not sure why that picture was deleted. It's a historical image and was taken straight from the website of a major news publication.

lol who deleted this

The US didn't have to nuke them, though. They were already winning.

Probably a vols, bucause of Muh DOST

Is Hiroshima in Vietnam now?

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As if this is even remotely a sexually suggestive pose and not a kid running for her life who just happens to be naked.

True, but thing is Japan was showing no signs of quitting. They were even using kamizakes and their soldier would rather die than quit. So, the US gave them a warning. When that warning failed, the only way to stop Japan and make it quit, was to nuke them.

i know, tell that to the vols

yes

Could the tragedies of the war in Vietnam have been avoided? Was there a way to resolve this conflict before all those lives were lost? Do we as a species have too much power over the elements?

It has no relevance to what was being discussed by OP.
As a rule of thumb, don't post images of naked underage people, you brainlets.

Is Hanoj in japan now?

Yes. The only reason US attacked Vietnam was because Muh Communism.

You cannot rewrite history, nazi vol.

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thats ridiculous, even if the op is only posting this to troll vols

no underage nudity. under ANY context. period.
that's the rule. get over it! :)


yeah, and of course the JewSA sided with communists to destroy Hitler, who was himself the greatest anti-Communist in the world at the time

Yes it does. The image provides historical context and illustrates the horrors of war.
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Holla Forums has no rules. Read the rules, faggot.

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Exactly. They wanted to spread their shills over the world, and unfortunately, they ened up doing it

this, fucking common sense. the context of this picture isn't a naked little girl, it's a war

even kikebook allows this picture
theguardian.com/technology/2016/sep/09/facebook-reinstates-napalm-girl-photo

You don't look like pacifist, more like shitposting pedo

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pedos aren't allowed to talk about history?

DOTR coming soon

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stopped reading there

The US did nothing wrong, weebs get out

And Vietnam is still considered communist, to this day. Vietnam "war" was a national disgrace. Probably had a lot to do with CIAnigger activity

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Most likely. But it was a huge failure. Like the so called "wr on terror", is being right now

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Communism was never implemented anywhere. What people call Communism is actually Socialism

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Implying any of those guys were Communists. Read a book faggot

>>>Holla Forums

didn't read

which one

Any political book tbh

commie scum out

yes. japan was trying to surrender, but truman wanted a live action test of the nukes to see what the destructive potential was and chose to target previously undamaged (civilian) targets.

vid related
youtube.com/watch?v=of0m7yNYs80

those nuclear tests were needed

t. troll

america never did anything wrong

america itself was a mistake

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O say can you shart, in the local Walmart?

What so proudly expelled from anus' last leaking

Whose broad streaks and brown stars through the perilous blight

O'er the aisles we watched shit, gallantly streaming

And mutts nappy hair, negroes everywhere

Give proof that our race is 56% disgrace

O say, does that shiet-spangled bummer yet cut

O'er the land of the shart and the home of the mutt

wrong file

lol

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thanks for the redpill fam

basically this

basicamente esto

all that in japan with 70 million pop tbh

i never seen a japonese bitch about the nokes the only people who bitch about are the own americans

I dispute that they were tragedies.
It was war.
It was a war that they started.
It was a war that they had ample opportunities to stop, especially when it was obvious that they were going to lose.
Even after the first one, they refused to stop.
So I simply do not accept that a bombing (size is irrelevant) can be legitimately called a tragedy in a war.
That said, I am perfectly willing to accept that the war itself was a tragedy.

The other question, whether we as a species have too much power over the elements is too vague to answer. I would answer that we have too much over some and not enough over others.

/thread

Well, it's kind of a moot point. Hiroshima is doing splendidly these days.

I think the Pacific Theater never would have happened had Roosevelt never been elected. He had his Day of Infamy speech ready in advance and deliberately allowed the Japanese to attack Pearl Harbor so he could have an excuse to go to war with the Japs. He built concentration camps, too, and they were just as bad the ones the Germans maintained but that's really small potatoes compared to the really malicious things he did to his own people.

No one is losing sleep over the dead politicians

LMAO. Honestly we shouldn't have nuked them, had they kept fighting we would have annihilated even the last one of them, you know they would gave never given up due to their stupid jap honor code.

toplel.

Nope. Tragically, j00t, being history's greatest single cuck, ensured the total downfall and castration of cuckchan by his wanton faggotry. Common outcome for his kind tbh.

and lost countless US soldier lives in the process

Far more lives were saved by nuking them than would have been lost if we had invaded.

the thing about this line of reasoning is; it's circular

They wouldn't accept an unconditional surrender. They weren't really trying to surrender.

No. I've seen the plans. I have a good idea what would have happened if Japan hadn't surrendered. It was total war and it forced them to surrender unconditionally. It also let the Soviets know what we had. Killing your enemies in a war is never a tragedy.

But killing innocent civillians is

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it was a total war. Industry was dispersed to hide it among civilians. Weapons were not as accurate. The rules were different and the goal was to destroy their ability and will to make war.

with the newfound revelation of the united states army posessing (((esoteric nukes))), we must stop proliferation in its tracks before they ruin our vision of a natural and organic self-sustaining utopian world of memes…

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censorship is bad

bumping