Someone with pure intentions asks you "Why are you against feminism, user?"

Someone with pure intentions asks you "Why are you against feminism, user?"

How do you respond? What are your sincere reasons?

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"You just violated the NAP by entering my property."

Then I shoot them and you in the head for making such a dumb thread

This was my response when someone asked me this question a while back

"Feminism is a problematic term for the ideology we are speaking about. I only use it because it is the established term. Feminism is not a movement for women in general, or even most women. Most women have children, and feminism is a movement for women without children. I would say it trivializes the place of mothers in society.
One of the necessary conditions for the survival of mankind is the reproduction and caring of children. It is absolutely essential that we instill within women the necessary skills for the raising of children, and to make having a temperament inclined to being a mother a virtue. People should be free to choose not to have children, but having the skills and the temperament suited for it is absolutely essential. We can do without them who choose that, but we can do without parents. I cannot stress this point enough. So from this I uphold gender roles.
Feminism is primarily a movement devoted to trying to get rid of ANY social expectations for women. I see it as an extreme form of liberalism, that reaches to the point of becoming hedonistic in nature. That is a very bad attitude. Life is about developing virtue and helping your neighbor. I think social constraints are necessary in society.
I also want to say feminism is so undesirable to me from an aesthetic point of view. Any man, even ones who call themselves feminists, would want a wife who is modest and sweet. Any woman, even one who would call herself a feminist, would want a man who is brave, strong, and honorable. Why I want to encourage women to be muscular and aggressive? Or encourage men to be weak-willed and emotional?
I imagine many of those points could offend you. I'm sorry if they did."

Define feminism.
If it's "We want to be treated like a men but we don't want to do the stuff men do" then fuck you.

Because modern day feminists promote debunked myths and preach politically correct conspiracy theories.

Send them this link:

time.com/3222543/wage-pay-gap-myth-feminism/

If it's a man:

"Women are intellectually incapable and have no individual thought or indpendent will. The purpose of a woman is to provide nutrition to the child in her womb, birth it, and raise it. There is no evolutionary motive for a woman to be capable of independent thought or individuality, the woman is a reflection of the society around her. The ideas of feminism were manufactured by jewish men as a way to subvert the white populations. By following the facets of feminism women lead to the destruction of their race and the societies and cultures it has birthed and continued to sustain. Feminism is the destruction of humanity. There are women with extremely high amounts of testosterone who behave more as men, these are defective and should be treated as mentally ill."

If it's a woman:

Give her the dick

Im not against feminism. Now get your titties back in the coal mine.

Feminism infantilizes women, it is an insult to them as a whole to think they need be mollycoddled by spinsters who have failed at womanhood.

Women asked to be allowed to own their own property. They were given that right.
Women asked for legal equality and the franchise. They were given those.
Women asked to take part in everything that men had made and achieved (education, work, politics). They were granted that.
Women then demanded outright preferential treatment in education and the workplace (scholarships, Title Nine, etc). They were given it.
And still they demand more.

Feminists are leeches.

Sage for low-effort thread.

"I am against femminism because men and women are not equal. Equality is a made up concept without any foundation in reality. Women evolved to fill certain roles in society as did men. A women's role is to care to children, keep the home, and support her husband, and a man's role is to work to provide for his children and wife. This is perfectly in line with the evolutionary roles both genders played throughout pre-history, as the man would be out hunting and searching for food, while women would look after children and keep things clean back in the settlement."

"I am?"

these 'feminists' claim to respresent womens interest. but they dont.

Because I am smart enough to understand men and women are different.

It depends on whom I'm talking to, meaning that answers range between "Because I'm a savage, bitch" to cowardly tiptoeing around the issue.

Feminism has been hijacked by the female supremacists who teach men are less than women, men are the enemy of women and women should be free from "oppressive" roles set forth by men, like learning how to cook and raising children.

This isn't feminism but its perversion. A woman manipulated into feeling bad for her choice to raise a family instead of working is an act of psychological warfare against the woman, not female empowerment. True feminism teaches women and girls have the right to seek employment or to raise a family or even to do both.

I'm not against feminism. I'm against compulsive support of an ideology. Feminists, Muslims, Jews, Christians, everyone expects me to bow to their fixed ideas. Never mind that I share some of these fixed ideas; when I bow before them, it is not because some cunt in problem glasses tells me I'm a bad person for disagreeing with her, it's because I value the fixed idea for its content in relation to the things that matter to me.
My sincere reason is my belief in human freedom, which cannot exist potentially if it does not exist actually, and which requires dissent if it is to be actual. Hence, the beauty of the Christian religion, in which Man sins freely and in which God freely redeems Man on the condition that Man freely accept this redemption. Hence, the terror of the Islamic religion, in which the Word of God is applied as the law of the state because the law of the state is perceived to be the Word of God. Hence, the disgusting essence of the Jewish religion, which denies with Islam the truth of Christianity. Hence, the inanity of feminism, which imposes new systems of command and control on anything that it intersects with in the name of Woman, the most vile creature to walk this earth since Man first came into being.

Fuck off back to Reddit you cuckolded faggot. The "real" feminism is just as shit as the "female supremacist" feminism, because it is based on false egalitarian principles.

Of course you're not. You're an zombified christcuck

actually educate them. feminism was founded by the daughters of aristocrats who, wrongly, thought that all men were treated with the same respect as their educated, wealthy, professional fathers and wanted all women to be treated the same way.
olympe de gouges, one of the "proto feminists" wrote in response to the french declaration of rights of man and the citizen her own declaration of rights of women and the female citizen, ignoring the fact that the "rights of man" is in reference to the figurative "man" meaning human being, and instead of calling for those same rights for women (which would be equality), she called for additional rights for women, in what amounted to plagiarism with the addendum that she wasn't fond of being the disowned bastard baby of a pump & dump and that men were responsible for their illegitimate children.
early feminists like margaret sanger and suffragettes like susan b. anthony were horrendously hateful individuals, as racist as any ghetto nigger or 1488er if not more so. the prohibitionists opened the opportunity to the beginnings of organized crime in the united states. the white feather girls in britain guilted underaged boys into volunteering to die in the trenches of the first world war. the bra burners and modern third wave victims are no different.

FEMINISM IS, WAS, HAS ALWAYS BEEN, AND ALWAYS WILL BE A SUPREMACIST HATE MOVEMENT!!

add to that, i acknowledge that men and women are not equal. i don't want women in the military. i don't want women being promiscuous. i do want people getting married, and a big part of that is for women to settle the fuck down and act like marriage material again, returning to the gold standard family unit which feminism has been undermining since its inception.

honestly, most people shouldn't have suffrage anyway, and the closer we move towards automation, the more people living in first world developed nations are going to become kept citizens. i'm in favor of equal rights in courts (which means cracking down harder on convicted women), and equal rights to own property, take loans, etc. but when it comes to government decision making, the best model has always been heinlein's federation in starship troopers where the vote is only given to people who have sacrificed for their nation and nothing less.

Discarded. Fuck off back to Reddit with your "muh 1488er!!!" "muh racism" drivel. There is literally nothing wrong with racism. Slit your fucking wrists

calm yourself, sperg.

the united states was founded by brits, germans, and frenchies, and those groups have distinct ethnic heritages. the united states was founded on principle, enlightenment era, white, european principles that came out of britain and resonated in france, by and for christian whites, but principle nonetheless.

i can take or leave racism, i don't really give a shit what some nigger or taco or kebab thinks provided they, at the very least, pretend to act civilized in my country. but, i can't abide anyone failing to practice what they preach. there is something wrong with hypocrisy, and feminists have always been full of it. claiming to want ethnic equality while simultaneously creating planned parenthood, an organization that kills disproportionately more black babies than any other ethnic group (not that i'm complaining, mind), is a lie.

in this hypothetical, you're addressing a well to do person with a sincere question who has presumably been fed the drivel of "feminism is the radical notion that women are people" all their lives. you fight lies with the truth, and exposing a hypocrite is powerful.

"We're not equal - privileges and resources should be allocated as such for the best possible outcome to human civilisation."

That's a nice place to start an argument from. You basically establish that allocating resorces to invalids and women is a waste - which they then have to disprove somehow.

Get a load of this fucking cuckold. The United States was founded as a white racialist Republic. Brits, Germans, and Frenchies all belong to the European racial community. This country is intrinsically linked with White Civilization, which is intrinsically linked with the white race. There is no separating these components. This idea that all America is is a set of worthless enlightenment ideals based on false assumptions is kike historical revisionism. This nation was built by Whites and was always intended to be for members of our race. Without the White race, the United States simply does not exist. To imply that any nation can exist without a fundamental racial component is to completely bastardize of the concept of nationhood at its core. Most of the founding principles of the United States are based on flawed enlightenment beliefs that have lead us to the point where we are today anyway.

A country and state exist only to serve the people, which in the case of the United States, is reserved only for white Europeans. "Values" are worthless if they are not designed specifically to maintain the race and nation. This idea that a country can be reduced down to a mere set of values without any regard for the race that forms the foundation and skeleton of the entire country itself, is completely idiotic and self-defeating. In reality, there is no separation from race and nation whatsoever. America is a product of white civilization, and thus a product of the white race.
Then you are an evolutionary failure. Racism is a survival mechanism designed to distinguish hostile out-groups from ones own in-group. "Racism" is a biological fact that will always ultimately underlay the interactions between different human populations. Non-white populations don't give a shit about your cuckservative, anti-racist principles. They will always make the choice that benefits their in-group the most. Your rejection of "racism" is the same leftist bullshit that turned this country into the 60% European shithole we're in today.
Then you are no different from liberal leftists, in that you still believe in moronic and naive ideas of egalitarianism and racial solidarity. Every single non-white in a white nation is a destructive force that degenerates the underlying racial character that defines the nation. America is a white nation and our race is inseparable from the definition of what it means to be "American". To imply that shitskins can also be considered American, is to tear the very foundations of this nation out from the roots, and lead the country down a path degeneration and non-white infiltration. Non-whites have no place here. Their people did not have anything to do with the civilization on which America is built. They are all entirely foreign to America on a fundamental racial level, and thus their presence can only harm the core identity and character of this country. Their interests are fundamentally opposed to those of the white race. Wherever they are, they will promote ideologies and policies that attack and undermine the stature of our people in our own nations such as "diversity" and "white-guilt" propaganda.
You still don't get it, do you? You seem to be under the assumption that leftists give a shit about principles, or that they have any solid ideological foundation, which makes me think you're woefully naive and ignorant. Leftist ideology is based on attacking and deconstructing white civilization and the white race. This is why a feminist will jump to protect a muslim - because they are both fighting to destroy the great patriarchal civilization the white race has produced. This is why attempts at pointing out hypocrisy is futile. They do not give a single fucking shit about "hypocrisy", because in their world, it is entirely justified as a means of attacking "the oppressor (aka whitey)


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Two big reasons.

First off, because my mom was a radical feminist, and emotionally and physically abusive. She would scream at me and throw shit at me and slap me, while also trying to feed me some bullshit narrative about how all the men in her life fucked her over, and she was a victim in all of it. I told the female court-appointed therapist and the female judge, BOTH OF THEM, when I was 7 years old, that I was afraid of her, but they put me with her broke, crazy ass instead of my dad, who was, and still is, a mild-mannered history teacher. The "women can do nothing wrong" bias in western society is tangible and real.

Secondly, you should distrust anybody that fervently fights for one particular interest group, whether that be Feminism, Men's Rights, Black Lives Matter, or whatever. True equality is egalitarian, it doesn't care about who was the past oppressor or who is more socially "privileged". It doesn't try to create an artificial version of equality by haphazardly attacking a group considered to be "privileged". True equality means extending compassion to EVERYBODY, because the world is full of shades of gray, and assuming you know the background and motivations and beliefs of somebody you've never met before is retarded, regardless of if you're a neckbeard making assumptions about "cunts", or a feminist making assumptions about "shitlords".