So let me get this straight, Neil Gaiman wins the rights of the Angela character from Todd McFarlane, sells the rights to Marvel. And Marvel makes her a lesbian.
Yet another reason why you should ALWAYS hold onto the rights of whatever character you create.
[A LOT OF MISOGYNIST FILTH]
Then you'll lose any form of money making if you do, its a shame too.
I'm sorry what mate?
Sorry, I meant in today's market
It is a shame how much of a faggot the writers for the goon and hellboy became.
Those ones are pretty old
Fuck, for all we know he could have sold her to Marvel under the stipulation that they do this.
I love the Sandman as well as anyone else but this definitely sounds like something he would do if he was at the reigns.
Explain what's wrong with Mignola?
What? These are 7 to 4 years old, but that's how long it takes for something to become a definite success. There are also flavors of the month like Saga, but it is slowly falling from its position as "the creator owned hit" and hopefully it will get replaced with something better.
What's worse Marvel new backstory for Angla proof marvel is retarted. They think valkyries and angels are the same thing.
Lawyers do cost money. Selling her was the logical choice. At least with Marvel, royalty checks are guaranteed. Even if most of her appearances were duds.
Not necessarily. But the big rub is that you have to be real savvy and proactive in exploiting possible opportunities. For most creators that means cashing in the adaptation rights preemptively to stay afloat.
That was a movie before it was a comic though
He doesn't like Trump.
It'd be great if Gaiman did it just to piss off McFarlane.
He doesn't need Angela, but Todd integrated her into Spawn's lore. Now he'll never get her back.
So do most culturally illiterate people.
As long as it doesn't effect the comics I don't care
What would be delicious is if he sold Medieval Spawn too.
True. I meant to post 30 days of night, but I keep mixing up the two. I should have just put in Locke and Key, Chew, Fables, Invincible, Daytripper, Outcast, Kick-Ass, or iZobie instead.
Mignola has lived near Los Angeles his entire life, so that's a given.
Who cares as long as he doesn't cram his politics into comics or is relentlessly springing out about it. The only piece of Mignolaverse that contained anything close to political preaching, was a 10 page B.P.R.D. story written by some faggot that did odd jobs for Marvel and never did another book with Mignola's characters.
Really? Please don't tell me that's true.
What the fuck does that have to do with anything?
How fuck is marvel when even Todd McFarlane has a better understanding of Christainity and Norse mythology?
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But has he said or done anything outright anti-Trump?
John Byrne did nothing wrong
Fuck you. We're not liberal progressives. People are allowed their own opinions. As long as he keeps it out of his work, I don't care.
You and I both know this won't be the case
OBAMP
Neil gaiman married a feminist who idolizes "I want to genocide males like the nazis did jews" dorkin.
Todd needs a good smack to the head as he and image are essentially dead now. And its a shame considering he could have bitten a chunk out of marvel and dc if he planned out his company better.
Not to mention the whole Marvel Man fiasco, McFarlane is such a shitty businessman. Then again, he's someone who thought "Hey Spawn's a big hit, we don't need to do anything else to keep our company afloat." and then the 90's ended and he kept Spawn alive via a line of action figures because that was the only market he had left.
Now Image is just a publisher of various creator owned stories instead of being a legit third company like they were in the 90's.
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1) Neil would have also made her a lesbian
2) There's nothing wrong with hot, fictional, lesbians
You do know there a good chance marvel will make her fat?
There's nothing wrong with lesbians, but turning a character gay for the sake of "representation"? Yeah fuck that shit.
Reminds me of when Greg Rucka made Montoya gay because she was a Latina, even though in the original animated series bible it stated she was married and had kids.
Have they done that? Made a lesbian character fat? Or any female character in general?
Marvel does many, many terrible things, but I don't think they've done that. That's a more of a DC thing, like when they hired Alex de Campi to head Sensation Comics Featuring Wonder Woman and she promptly wrote that Wonder Woman has cellulite.
Squirrel Girl
Said bible stated she was a widow and she wanted kids.
Rucka's change nonetheless pissed me off too. As does Rucka generally
Squirrel Girl is different. They made her a deformed alcohol fetus. Her weight is a part of her new warped and mangled appearance, and thus can't be separated from the whole of her gruesome countenance.
Didn't he also make Batwoman a lesbian as well? Even though in the original silver age she was a romantic interest for Batman?
I think that came more from upstairs than it did from Rucka alone. Thinking was something along the lines of 'muh representation'
The two Batwomen aren't technically the same character anyway
Oh okay, that's fine then. But turning a character gay for the sake of "Much representation" is just cancer.
I'm looking at Iceman and Gotham Penguin.
I never thought I'd see the day when I'd be unhappy to see lesbians in comics.
If its not porn, then its no good.
No just no
>implying valkyries aren't fallen angels
get thee behind me/10
Gaiman probably would do it himself.
He is a literal cuck after all
got a source?
fuck off
Current batwoman is Bruce's cousin through his mother. She's also a jew, because her mom is a jew.
Are you sure about that? They've made Batman retroactively Jewish?
bamp
No. Bruce Wayne's mother is (I'm assuming) cousin to Kate Kane's father. Kate Kane's mother, the Jew, is unrelated to Bruce Wayne genetically
I genuinely would like to know if Mignola has said anything negative about Trump. I was getting kinda bored with his books for a while now. This would give me a good reason to take em off my shelf.
OP here again and yes I am fucking aware that Gaiman is a massive fucking idiot, his cunt wife would have told him to make Angela a lesbian and he would have caved in because he's a coward.
My argument hasn't changed, I believe that content creators should hold onto the rights of whatever they create because when you lose said rights companies like Marvel will use your characters to push an agenda.
Most currently working artists and writers who are not idiots seem to be aware of it. Many of them work on independent projects at the same time as doing things for big two, or they just use Marvel and DC as stepping stones.
I was curious too, so I did some researching. Only thing I've got is him re-tweeting this from Bernie Sanders once.
I could care less if Mignola didn't like Trump, as long as he didn't shill for worse candidate, like Hillary, or cram it into his comics.
Not like he could push shit like that when his current stories take place in the Apocalypse or way in the past.
Good.
Gaiman really doesn't care. He probably didn't care what McFarlane did with her so long as he was paid - which he wasn't.
A lot of content creators will tell you they don't care what Marvel or DC do with their characters so long as they get paid royalties. Some of them get mad, like John Byrne for example, but they tend to be the minority.
Byrne should shut his pie hole, considering the attitude he took when Steve Gerber was trying to get royalties for Howard The Duck.
Byrne says a lot of shit but, to be fair to him, his complaints in this area are more along the lines of 'Some hack is ruining my character' rather than 'I'm not getting paid my dues when they use my characters'.
Or maybe he has complained about royalties, I dunno. Byrne says a lot of shit.
I think she was written that way so Batman didn't seem like a gay pedo for having Robin around.
And that's something I kinda agree with Gaiman on, McFarlane called him up for help on Spawn he created a couple of characters. And instead of giving him credit and paying him royalties he just pretended everything was his idea.
I'm guessing he sold her to Marvel because they promised him royalties and a reprint of his Marvelman run.
She was created to deflect accusations that Batman was gay, which makes her modern incarnation being a lesbian mighty ironic.
Thing is that initially McFarlane tried not to look like a hypocrite. That lasted until he realised that he would have to pay Gaiman royalties, at which point he reverted to the 'work-for-hire' argument.
I honestly believe he sold Angela to Marvel for nothing. It was basically a fuck you to McFarlane.
It hasn't so far
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That's pretty funny.
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i have bipolar and adhd and i would never do that to a cheating bf. i would probanbly at most try to hurt their feelings but thats all. ur ex is a bitch and should be treated as a criminal.
no
This thread made me realize how little everyone here actually knows
Sauce?
*scratches ear*
Reminder.