Mastodon Shilling 04/04/17

Recently there was a big dump of articles on Mastodon, a micro blogging platform across several different media outlets internationally.

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forbes.com/sites/curtissilver/2017/04/06/mastodon-takes-on-twitter-while-mastodon-continues-to-melt-faces – (can’t archive for whatever reason, please block advertising)

Mastodon is being pushed as an alternative to Twitter free from its problematic users. The issue is that Mastodon isn’t new, it’s built to the specifications of the GNUsocial API, and there’s already a preexisting community of aforementioned problematic users.

Essentially, Mastodon seems to be an attempt at “embrace, extend, and extinguish” in the GNUsocial community, and has regularly broken compatibility with the rest of the network while misinforming others about the nature of the GNUsocial Federation. Most if not all articles do not mention GNUsocial, let alone StatusNet that came before it. And Mastodon has done all of this while blocking access to several instances internally and locking them out of the emerging discussions on and around their own network.

This all seems to point towards a willful intent by Mastodon to break the decentralization of the network, or at least exploit the federation for its own ends. The instance is now at 100k users and growing fast, with no sign of slowing. And if Mastodon succeeds, it defeats the purpose of the GNUsocial network as a bastion of free speech, not subject to the echo chamber mentality or design of other social networks.


Join a GNUsocial instance if you haven't already. Several instances still exist that federate unconditionally, respect user freedoms, and do not ban for petty political reasons. These include, but are not limited to:

freezepeach.xyz
gs.smuglo.li
sealion.club
shitposter.club
unsafe.space

Collectively, these instances form the backbone of the GNUsocial "Axis", and the Mastodon-aligned instances that of GNUsocial "Comintern".

Other communities can be found at fediverse.org/ if none of these fit you.

If you're already on a GNUsocial instance, or just joined, participate in the network normally. If you want to discuss the organized opposition to Mastodon, that can be tagged using #Axis in your post.

An XMPP multi-user chat for the administrators and users of instances aligned against Mastodon can be found at [email protected]/* */

If you wish to host your own GNUsocial instance, check out postActiv: postactiv.com/

Other urls found in this thread:

github.com/ssbc/patchwork/releases
cs.cornell.edu/home/rvr/papers/flowgossip.pdf
andstatus.org/
robek.world/featured/what-is-gnu-social-and-is-mastodon-social-a-twitter-clone/
community.highlandarrow.com/notice/816138
github.com/nolanlawson/blocked-on-mastodon
mastodon.social/terms
gs.smuglo.li/nepfag/subscriptions
gateway.glop.me/ipfs/Qmda4cHwq1zdwnQLDDiXUkWSVh9skhL2Aaq9WxG4QruEKH/Axis Resolutions.pdf
duktape.org/index.html
gs.smuglo.li/notice/1786843
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Community_for_Creative_Non-Violence_v._Reid
hopestillflies.com/everything-hope-on-one-page/
pleroma.heldscal.la
gs.smuglo.li/benis.html
sealion.club/pleroma.html
shitposter.club/pleroma.html
pleroma.soykaf.com
eu2xseo5ckbugtsa.onion/benis.html
mastodon.social/about/more
gs.smuglo.li/notice/1888789
hitomi.2ch.net/test/read.cgi/poverty/1493030212/
community.highlandarrow.com/notice/845817
en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Mark_Zuckerberg
icosahedron.website/users/halcy/updates/25403
toot.cat/users/cwebber/updates/21312
dustycloud.org/blog/possible-distributed-anti-abuse/
news.ycombinator.com/item?id=14290985
archive.fo/xumJd
archive.fo/e6LoB
web.archive.org/save/_embed/https://cherubini.casa/why-i-shut-down-wizards-town-and-left-mastodon-6d4e631346b3?gi=ddb9f2ddc2bd
web.archive.org/web/20170510180040/https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=14290985
fbi.gov/contact-us/field-offices/phoenix
web.archive.org/web/20170510202441/https://www.fbi.gov/contact-us/field-offices/phoenix
fediverse.org/
twitter.com/NSFWRedditImage

you sure know the names that'll piss off the Mastodon admin eh?
this whole thing strikes me as massively shady, and it's repulsive to me that these tactics would be used against you guys, I do hope that freedom online prevails here. streisand the shit out of this.

Autism of the highest caliber, and I'm on gnusocial.

All those articles are written either by dumb tech writers or lazy ones. They omit that the federation has at least 10 years. Also the main Mastodon (software) node called the same that the software strikes me shady as fuck.

shitposter.club reporting in. Shortly before mastodon blocked us instance wide, some tumblrina was unionically complaining that my posts where offensive.

Well post your profile user, all the better if you share your memes with the thread and become e-famous.

Incase you're wondering which autist I am, you can find me at
[email protected]/* */

I'm already famous. You probably follow me.

If you're famous, you've probably already talked to me.

Isn't this exactly what Twitter is already doing? They are losing users, so Mastodon doing the same is a massive suicide endeavour and dragging the entire GNUSocial project with them.


Both. The hardest part of being a journalist these days is sucking all the dicks you need to get your position. This is also why there have been so many coordinated attacks on ecelebs like James Rolfe, PewDiePie or JonTron. Those people didn't have to suck dicks, they just got a camera, signed up to YouTube and just did it.

are there any mobile apps for any of the instances? i do a lot of my social stuff on my phone nowadays

Intriguing, and a cautionary tale why poorly designed federated systems are often bullshit "decentralization".

This is still only tip of an iceberg. Wait for the real skeletons in the closet. Think Tor authority consensus fragmenting into "comintern" and "axis" over some retarded issue like "do we block CP-hosting hsdirs or not?".

Reminds me more of the great IRC netsplit of 1994. Two sides of "no, u", with commercial interests thrown in.

Federations where you can partition & quarantine based on what others do simply can't work, once the idealism wears of and the consensus implodes into squabbling.

Fuck GNU social. There's now a new network shilled on HN. Unlike statusnet, the protocol by itself is pretty sane - basically nntpchan, with twatter mechanic. If you want to try it out:

Download from github.com/ssbc/patchwork/releases

Run, pick a nickname, add the following pubs (currently the public ones which seem to work):

pub.lua.cz:8008:@xYSW6eVu8gTS/nTSXZiH97dgKZ+wp7NkomR6WKK/PBI=.ed25519~iQ16RuvjKZqy/RhiXXmW9+6wuZNq+SBI8evG3PotxvI=
pub.mixmix.io:8008:@uRECWB4KIeKoNMis2UYWyB2aQPvWmS3OePQvBj2zClg=.ed25519~gq+n8AXMdhzwnGWZxWitgczTkbr70drnbEaOi3Noo5M=
pub.doge.haus:8008:@7nTbqZVRYRo7FokY8BBYGpXvvveRPb4u+G1vunRmNn4=.ed25519~ZnWdvbLNzL/hu2QV4a1fj8zgvEHV1PgQBnFGl46uFNg=

The above pretty much act like a nntp server - as long you connect to at least some, you get full feed of whatever you follow later.

And if you have nobody to talk to, you can follow me @rFgDtlYiyymSD4U96Av3pIil8xBj6afLXr87caoqAyo=.ed25519 (you'll see a nickname after i follow back i think).

Most of the stuff is done in nodejs which is pretty horrible, but the protocol on its own is quite simple and reasonable (unlike overengineered Matrix gizmo), the actual clients can be always fixed later. cs.cornell.edu/home/rvr/papers/flowgossip.pdf

AndStatus is compatible with any GNUsocial/postActiv instance, and is free (as in freedom).

andstatus.org/

Matrix uses HTTP/1.0 and flat key-value JSON, not image related.

sorry kiddo

This is why we can't have nice things. If they wanted to just make leftist Gab, they could've just made leftist Gab.

The worst parts are the "Resist!" LARPing faggotry teenagers

Why "fuck GNU social"? Why is exactly Node.js bad? Why is Matrix overnengineered? Why are you a memester?

While this seems cool actually, it seems to serve a different niche than GNUsocial does. Ultimately the ends of GNUsocial are just microblogging; end-to-end encryption makes little sense for content that is meant to be publicly posted.

For encrypted, one to one communications things like this, Tox, XMPP definitely serve the purpose better.

But you're really just comparing apples to oranges right now; give this it's own thread and I'm sure Holla Forums will be more than happy to discuss it with you.


Javascript's memory overhead compared to anything else you could construct in a compiled language is ludicrous. It may be easier to write Javascript, but any application you're going to do in Node is going to be a fairly hefty thing.

have a look at the block list being shared among many of the net Mastodon instances https:// github.com/nolanlawson/blocked-on-mastodon
then take a moment to check out the author https:// twitter.com/nolanlawson/status/740930395034685441

i saw one that didnt seem like it was a tech site that was pretty good, but i don't remember the link

this one? robek.world/featured/what-is-gnu-social-and-is-mastodon-social-a-twitter-clone/

Could we get some details about Mastodon blocking things? This is the first I've heard of it.

Has much has this is true some encrypted/darknet system would be beneficial, yes it's micro blogging, but some people just want have a speudo and talk/share ideas not letting picture of themselves circulating, and for people like that the actual state of the web is just plain text and ip address datamining everywhere.

For the blocking just see community.highlandarrow.com/notice/816138
github.com/nolanlawson/blocked-on-mastodon
and for more shit on it
mastodon.social/terms

When Eugen firs wrote the webapp he didn't think to include the mute/ block (plus sandbox/ silence for admins and mods) that are included in GNU Social. His solution was to block entire instances at the firewall level. After his first time on the HN front page he started to attract a lot of the Tumblr crowd. As they started paying his rent via Paetron he sold instance blocking as a tool for "fighting Nazis". Now it's baked into the app and admins of the new instances are sharing the blocklist written by that M$ shill.

For the blocking just see community.highlandarrow.com/notice/816138

github.com/nolanlawson/blocked-on-mastodon

and for more shit on it

mastodon.social/terms

I don't think this is actually a problem.
Imagine a poor innocent nazi gets lost and winds up in Mastodon.
He won't see other Nazis there (they get banned) nor will he see other Nazi posts from other instance (since they're blocked.
So the guy will leave.
That means each instance ends up attracting the kind of user it wants. Mastodon is going for the Antifa/commie/Trannies crowd.
Since that worked so well for Twitter, it should work equally well for them.

The only problem, the biggest problem is informing people about alternatives. Kinda like how Mastodon is doing. The thing is, you can imagine how much twitter didn't like Mastodon coming out as an alternative. You can imagine how much mastodon won't like other instances coming out as alternatives.

The answer is pretty much, shilling. But instead of shilling a shoddy product, shill a better one. Offer more features. Offer a better service.

Also, one thing the Gnu Social crowd should have thought of:
Blocking is something every community will demand sooner or later. It's a sad thing to say, but you know they will.
The issue here, the way I see it, is that you guys left the blocking up to admins.
Some user once suggested a model for chans where users could subscribe to "ban-lists" made from other users they trust.
Why not do something like that?
It's a more selective ban process, doesn't harm other instances on purpose and it lets faggots keep their feefees untouched while they circlejerk about how large their banlist is.

That was made on purpose to bring division and make the admins power hunger savages.
Eugen knows what he wants.
Their is no coincidence.
There is no coincidence.

nah in GNU Social proper users can control blocking other users. It works like a Twitter mute, however (which is what a block should be anyway) since you can still see the person's timeline

Yes it his.
People are the ones who should be able to block not the admin.
The only reasons for complete instance block is for legal reasons like loli image not legal in X country.
Otherwise it's the users and only the users to decide if X or X is blocked.
Even if I don't recommend to block in general (except for spamming bots/people).

Highlandarrow shills get out. Your shit admin is the first one in the history of the federation who has ever blocked an instance.

one name
karl

why does the HLA admin pretend like she's part of the axis and then goes around retweeting a bunch of tranny and feminist shit unironically

Don't blame the admin on that one blame the cuck country they live in.

karl was over Candydolls child models

okay, so do we all know who each other are now? fantastic. we're really defeating the point here.

Because she's a retired psychiatrist who thinks in human terms first, not someone who should get treated preferentially because of skin color/sex/ideology etc...
At least that how I understand the dike.

It can't be helped.

>>>/tumblr/

most of her follows are fags/mutants/kikes/cucks/etc
very weird. not sure what game she thinks she's playing trying to cozy up to axis node admins when her own profile and node is full of such cucked degeneracy

yes it can either Canada gets uncucked (which is unlikely)
Either she gets another server elsewhere.
or the fediverse goes on Tor

>>>/oven/

Gee I wonder what she's trying.

Her server's in America. It's been there all the time.

There is absolutely no reason for that block.

the only help those people need is a very high-caliber bullet directly through the brain matter

Karl's server was in the Netherlands

Hum...
Then I don't know.
Maybe the laws are so cucked in canada that even that could be reprehensible idk.

Karl posted 3D. He, himself, not a user or a foreign user, posted Candydoll. He also did it months after the block came in effect, so don't pretend it's a reaction to that.

Karl lived in canada has I understood.

as fucked as the US is atm, I'm still glad I'm here. Now, can we get back to shitting o...er I mean explaining Mastodon

Gargon should be guillotined for what he's doing.
In the civil war he would have been hanged for his crimes.

he's a kike

What's there left to explain? It's a shit. As is their software.

The actual laws in France are even worse tan that.


I still which that the US states where again actual separated states tho.
The federal police is one of the big reasons of why the USoA is slowly dying.

What the fuck is this nigger smoking?

It's worse than that actually.
If it was just on incompetence only, but it's not, it's incompetence and on purpose.

It's worse than that actually.

If it was just on incompetence only, but it's not, it's incompetence and on purpose.

It's worse than that actually.
If it was just on incompetence only, but it's not, it's incompetence and on purpose.

phone posting or what?

The dude doesn't know shit either in licenses or software development.
Also I am pretty sure he's smoking the money of his users ATM.

cocks

My incompetance

Microsoft

Microsoft

I guess it's a bug in GNU/Social that a malicious entity can cause this much load with relatively few requests. Still, actually doing it is just rude.

Is the Reichsprogrammierer here? Make sure Pleroma BE doesn't allow something like this.

Is anyone except us even using Holla Forums?

I doubt it but my notifications are being occupied by Markov bots so fuck it

Mine are full of yuri.

can i have your follows list

Since it's not like we don't all know who everyone in this thread is anyway: gs.smuglo.li/nepfag/subscriptions

thank you my man

So are all those instances in OP good? I want to share cute anime pictures and not get destroyed for it.

unsafe.space, smuglo.li, and freezepeach.xyz are certifiably uncucked

DTL spotted

Well except the HLA instances where you are going to live with degeneracy everywhere everything is good.

I'll relay that to him.

GNU/Smug is /a/'s instance, so you might as well use it.

You don't. We're not in a war with Mastodon. I literally don't see howor why Mastodon the software or mastodon.social could use EEE.
I guess it does feel cool to be that WARRIOR AGAINST OPPRESSION, but you're not. There is no oppression.
Get real and stop being a faggot, OP.

"Banned" isn't exactly the word I'd use, but I guess that's beside the point.


Do we?

t. Gargon

I wouldn't even care if she blocked a node because it allowed loli. What pissed me off was the way she equated fucking drawings to the real thing. From a moral and ethical standpoint that's just fucked up.

well she's a kike, so...

...

Have a hard time believing that one. Proof, faggot.

t. tranny HLA admin

This. Why are trannies allowed on Holla Forums anyway?

A good chunk of Holla Forums's userbase left over the shitshow that was NEXT. And a lot more are leaving because of the shit surrounding the current owner and management of Holla Forums.

Even if. Pull that shit up, you nigger.

haha okay stay mad """"""""mayanah"""""""" (mark)

they think they're welcome here because a lot of them are from cuckchan /g/ which has a huge jewish hardon for interracial tranny cuck porn

Jewish tranny, wew.

yeah that was it thanks

Any specific demands for the new Elixir backend?

no mastodon shit

I said *specific*, you retarded CIA nigger.

what the fuck is that site anyways
do you all have brain damage

robek is some weird tranny mutant like MARK bishop who thinks he can get a free pass on his degeneracy by being "le axis buddy"

Holla Forums is robek territory, faggot

t. robek
go back to sucking MARK's tranny cock okay

plemora is top notch (to bad the elexir community is made of SJWs)
I don't know how anyone could stop eugen from making it working with masotdon.
Except if we make it on purpose.
And even then people could still remove the lines of code or correct it....
It would be fun to stir shit with mastodon instances,

As long as we're on GNU Social, how much more work needs to be put into Pleroma before we can ditch the commie seals frontend?

You better use your fucking time helping us replace shitty frontend and backend with Pleroma, you autistic children. I understand that it's fun to pretend there's a huge conspiracy against GNU Social, but you just look like a bunch of retards to anyone with even a little bit of sanity.

You are on Holla Forums, you know that, right?

s/plemora/pleroma

Do you know how to read?

t. Gargon
fuck off cuck

This, but that's less fun for the autistic manchildren who only shitpost.

How's progress on Pleroma's backend?

wow nice samefag dude, i'm very impressed, very proud of you, that's so brave

Does he even do any work on Qvitter anymore? There are easy to trigger bugs that still exist from more than a year ago.

Fuck, you're right.

Are you retarded or have Alzheimer's?


Lambda is writing contributor docs. My simple MR is still waiting for him to accept. But I'm working on registration on my local clone at the moment.

L-literally?

nice gargon argument dude

you see user instead of being a fucking ignorant you should go out a bit of Holla Forums and see the face of the shit world you live in instead of trying to fap to everything Holla Forumstards post.

Do you even fucking know what Pleroma is?

I am not saying there are no conspiracies by the government and shit like that. But Mastodon literally cannot do shit to us.

Quit fucking up my plan, retards. If you really can't see what I'm doing, you're fucking stupid.

DTL pls.

dtluna is a CUCK
he's a CUCK
HE'S A CUCK

I was wondering when nepfag would show up.

more like dike

Maybe. But the backend we're making will replace GNU Social. How does it feel to be less productive in your "fight" than a CUCK?

We are working full time on bruteforcing @nepfag's leaked global administrator password. 8ch will never be the same.

This is one of the posts ITT that's not me.

I already changed it, though.

t. dtCUCK


fuck off you CUUUUUUUUUUUUCK

M8s just remember that we are on a user board please stick to it.

im on smug loli. is there any way to change the shit website background?

There is in Qvitter. I don't think you can in Pleroma.

But yes, you can. In your profile settings.

An IPFS gateway mirror of this document is available through glop.me:

gateway.glop.me/ipfs/Qmda4cHwq1zdwnQLDDiXUkWSVh9skhL2Aaq9WxG4QruEKH/Axis Resolutions.pdf

homu isnt shit. just that wallpaper of her.

why the fuck do people always proposed projects that are full of flaws ?
For fuck sake use Gnunet.
It resolves literally all the designs of the Web, you've got Tor but without flaws.

also it fucking compresses the shit out of anything you use what the fuck

How many here are using a one-person instance?

Currently on Mastodon, main reason for not using GNU Social is because MySQL doesn't let you do the same level of db-level trigger fuckery as PostgreSQL, if PHP were the reason I don't see why installing Ruby and Node would be not worse

I only use it as a website for posting translation updates because it's easier than setting up and hosting a blog, and Twitter is shitty garbage.

Post the real one at me and I'll manually replace it for you.

pick 1

ftfy

post the real what? the wallpaper im trying to use?

...

kys

And your username, since I have to grep for it in a directory with almost 600k files.

FOSS devs can't into GUIs; tell us something we don't know.

Didn't they make a GNUStep frontend for this?

The interface hasn't changed in the latest version.

I just got this thread linked to me and I won't argue with this because it's hilarious. But I don't know what this axis shit is and I don't really care. :^)

Also this is way wrong. I don't know shit about any of this.

Anyways, since most of you are clearly already on gnusocial, you can just talk to me there because this thread is incomprehensible and is mostly fun because of seeing all of you repost your meme folder images that I've seen a million times.

Get gud, I can clearly attribute over 90% of post in here to their GNU/Social accounts.

Join Gab and ditch this whole GNU Social/Mastodon war.

You'll all be better off at a real social network site.

Gee, I wonder who this could be.

Hey Zem, did Reddit kick you out again?

test to fix 404 thread

duktape.org/index.html
~ $ cat /var/db/pkg/sys-devel/gcc-5.4.0-r3/SIZE113853473~ $ ulimit -v 192 gcc -vSegmentation faultSegmentation fault

i dont get it

if u dont like mastodon dont use it

no ones makin you

did they break the agpl or something by blocking certain instances?

nypa

ssb is just microblogging. follow, feeds, shitpost (in markdown), not much else. The beauty of it it does without all the memes - E2E, blockchain etc, it's architecturally very similiar to nntpchan.

The main difference between the two is feed propagation - statusnet is very narrow web server federation which gave rise to the whole clusterfuck mentioned in OP. And so is Matrix, for that matter.


Read above, the networks are both twitter clones. They do fill the same niche, just with different technical solutions.


IMO, it's too early - the client is fairly basic electron (haram!) page to shill it more than it is already. I think it would be better to discuss technical merits (if there was something like ssb, without nodejs hipsterism, that would be excellent, for example).

@ gs.smuglo.li/notice/1786843

Not sure what the poster meant by this but either Fred or Ron (whoever posted that tweet on the Holla Forums account) is fucking retarded, because this is how copyright works.
See en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Community_for_Creative_Non-Violence_v._Reid

Anyways, how bad is the API breakage? Besides blocking instances.

Shitposting on one of them seems fun but I just want to lurk most of the time.

Nobody is saying they did anything illegal, redditfag.

It was mostly to show how petty people were over the situation.

who cares, social networks are shit by definition

What is TCC or PCC?

I don't think I've ever come across a little girl that is less girly than Hope. She's like a burly man trapped inside a body of a petite girl. Too bad she's a carpet muncher and won't pass her genes so we could have more of those.
Then again, she's also into lolicon thnx to her daddy, so maybe it's for the better.

because real girls can't code

Tiny C Compiler and Piss C Compiler, two deprecated and nonconforming compilers

And here I thought she was just UAB posting ironically.

Implying you can't be both?

Both support c99, though. Alreay better than MSVC.

Supposedly the design of Kim was based on her, from the porn clips her daddy had posted waaaay back.

hopestillflies.com/everything-hope-on-one-page/

Isn't the internet a wonderful place?

Hope pls, your UAB fan page is triggering my ASD.
Why javascript?

SASS:
@mixin carousel($frames, $static, $name) { @if unitless($static) { $static: percentage($static); } $animating: (100% - $frames * $static) / ($frames - 1); @at-root { @keyframes #{$name} { @for $i from 0 to $frames { $current: $i * $static + $i * $animating; $next: ($i + 1) * $static + $i * $animating; $halfway: $i * $static / 1% + ($i - 1) * $animating + $animating / 2; @if $i > 0 { #{$halfway} { filter: blur(0.125rem); } } #{$current, $next} { transform: translateX($i * -100% / $frames); filter: blur(0); } } } }}@include carousel( $frames: 3, $static: 20%, $name: 'wewlad');


Roughly. Those annoying "control buttons" in carousels require another CSS animation but doable.
Also, these can be dynamic depending on how good the libsass bindings are in the language, with custom functions.

Go to bed, faggot.

Why would I sleep in the afternoon? What am I, some Amerikansky spy?


Actually, he does. Remote profiles are actually a thing now, and you can remote follow people without needing to switch back and forth between Classic/neo theme.

Sasuga Krautchan.

No shit. It reads like one of the threads on /furry/ that got flooded by the 4/trash/ repost spambot.

It's perfectly readable, though. You're just nor spending enough time on anonymous imageboards if you consider this thread confusing.

I say, this bitch sure knows how to attract audience.

It seems to be a pretty good instance. I obviously prefer my own, but if I didn't have one I'd be on hers.

Heh, as if that's going to stop me.
Just lock her up with a yuri feed, she'll be content.

That nodejs frontend, are any of these instances looking to switch to it if it gets better? Or what's the deal with the ecosystem, beyond Mastadon bullshit?

Mainly asking because I might be looking to contribute, after I get a real job done.
Even though I fucking hate javascript. Better than dealing with both social justice faggotry and Rails, I guess.

p-pls respond

There's already a bunch of them "dual-booting" Pleroma and Qvitter.
pleroma.heldscal.la
gs.smuglo.li/benis.html
sealion.club/pleroma.html
shitposter.club/pleroma.html

And here's Lambda's experimental node that runs on his new back-end:
pleroma.soykaf.com

Okay, so they're definitely looking to get away from the PHP bullshit. Is "dual booting" basically because the API has not been fleshed out in that front-end, as far as I understand it, and it's using Qvitter for the heavy lifting? Thanks.

i guess the other twatter alternatives got too popular and they are now promoting that mason thing as the only alternative

you cant just go around threatening the monopoly without being absorbed by it

The only reason we still have Qvitter enabled is because Pleroma doesn't let new users create accounts yet. There are already some cool things that only work with Pleroma.
Check this: eu2xseo5ckbugtsa.onion/benis.html

I will never stop shilling muh tor

After the recent hack, I'm only using this site through Tor. And I'm shilling your Tor node elsewhere.

Oh shit, systemd flamewars on the timeline, nice, gotta get me an account to flex my autism. :^)

im on shitposter club and its ebin

After looking at the spec and the history of ganoo social and pump etc network it's a wonder this fucking thing works at all. I get cross eyed just doing light reading on it.
Fuck.
Maybe I should start microblog shitposting but I have nothing to say and my animay tiddie folder is years old and lacking compared to some of the pros I see.

And what's wrong with that?


Honestly that's like 90% of my problems with the old system solved right there, pretty nice. The tor instance is a nice bonus, but it's GS-only, unless the other instances have tor instances I don't know about. Looks great, about tempting enough to join up again and lurk because I never have anything to say.
My only real complaint is that it's harder to get a hold of individual messages for direct linking with Pleroma than with the old system, but that's not a horrible price to pay.

its weird associating with a consistent identity

maybe tokumei is more up my alley

Nothing I guess, I dunno if I want to shitpost as an animay tiddy pro is all.

i think id rather be anonymous

Just like 8ch's hidden service is 8ch only.

Kill a bunch of Mastodonian like the big guns do.
Just shoot everything that moves. Use force... Encourage acts of terror.

we r leegon

Karl did host in a non-loli-hostile country. But he was doxxed in his native land of Canada, and had to go scorched-earth out of self protection. He probably feels awful for betraying the trust of the old users.

I've heard he's keeping tabs on the Social fediverse under other identities, and being far more careful about hiding his tracks, such as posting to 8ch threads by way of a VPN account paid by bitcoin, and an open wifi AP through a cantenna and TAILS on a pawnshop machine bought with cash.

Of course, that's all a guess.

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Yeah, but 8ch isn't part of a larger federated imageboard.

You know how a hidden service works, right?
You just point the tor daemon at a website (in my case 127.0.0.1:1488) and then this website becomes available through tor. So basically if you want one on another node you have to meme on your admin about it.

I support this, lets get Pleroma going.

I still don't get the political(normal) drama. Mastodon will never be a new Twitter and probably is just a new scam to data mining.
But will take the "best scenario". Let Believe Mastodon will be Twitter of SJWs. What is the problem? Let they leave to their "quarantine sites".

Yeah, but in theory, by connecting to GS and viewing the whole federation timeline on GS, you should be able to see other instances of the federation, even though they don't have tor nodes available. Right?

You can see them just like you would on the clearnet. Pic related.

how do you manage to have mastodon and GS in a single feed ?

They both use Ostatus, so they can talk to each other with "minimal" problems.

Okay, I`m ready to ditch twitter for good. Which node should I join? Smug? Sealion? Shitposter?

Believe it or not, but shitposter is probably the least controversial node. People read: Swedes seem to have more issues with Smug and Sea Lion.

Controversial nodes have more blocks, is that it?

I actually recommend you join more than one instance.

While Smug/Sealion/Shitposter don't block each other there is a difference to what nodes block them and Shitposter has a no lolicon/gore rule.

It's worth it to have accounts on multiple nodes in case a server goes down.

Is it possible to group your multiple accounts under a single software?

not that I know of but someone else may know of a way

Apparently it's the other way around. Almost none of the shitters on the mastodong satellite instances know about GNU/Smug or Sealion.club because we've been banned from their main hub the start. SPC however was added later and is the main focus of their asshurt by now.

Haha holy shit I hope this is ironic.

Yeah, I think I`ll stick to sealion. I trust burly loli more.

Its not, and that place is full of cringey LARPers

obviously it is

It is called "shiposter.club" for a reason

Autists have a hard time detecting sarcasm

This is what Maiyannah is trying to do with her PostActiv implementation. So worth keeping an eye on.

*his
Trannies are men.

Secret fourth option: Unsafe Space

Typing like a mexican only hides you from the NSA when everyone around you is similarly illiterate.

mastodon.social/about/more
what did they mean by this?

LMAO

Basically "No sealion.club and GNU/Smug".

please, I promote National Socialism as much as I do Communism.

which is to say i don't care to hear about it but I'm not buying anything any sort of Collectivism is selling

Would be perfect if she had Marco's eyes too.

So basically:

What's the deal with Pawoo? Are they going to sit themselves in the metaphorical corner while Mastodon cunts bully them for loli? Will they make significant changes to the Mastodon software they're running? Are they going to drift away from federation or embrace it?

Last I recall they blew Eugen off and opted to allow the full freedoms granted by the laws of Japan.

Pawoo is now blockity-blocked by the Mastodong, more news at 11.

They also forked Mastodon code for their needs.

gs.smuglo.li/notice/1888789

I know this board is full of NEET programmers. Apply today.

I can't seem to remote follow people from there. Did they fork the Mastodon blocklist as well?

Which instance are you on? Works fine from GNU/Smug.

nvm fixed it :)
When you remote follow a pawoo user, it fills in "acct:[email protected]/* */" so you have to drop the "acct:" part to get it to work with GNU Social, I guess.

This is the one thing where Mastodon follows the spec and GNU/Social doesn't.

https:[email protected]/* *//2876564

It's so hard to take them seriously when they call things "toots."

At least JP mastadon instances are currently larger, and growing, in numbers than the special snowflake instances, and I saw some rumbling that they'll be with the "axis." This network is getting more interesting by the day. Goddamn, who needs imageboards. The nips may save us yet.

This season is going incredibly well so far. Can't wait to see what Pixiv does.
**If you're not on SPC you're a faggit*

Some of them are even bitching about moon runes shitting up the timeline. Not lolicon, bitching about how they can't read moon. I lost the statuses, but I saw several bitch about moon.
Wow, big shocker, in their own line of thinking we can generalize them to be xenophobic, bigoted nazi buzzword fascists when it causes the slightest inconvenience to their timeline consisting solely of a hollow, petty, predictable, selfish and ultimately boring monoculture.

#rekt
#AWOOO:^):^):^)
#ワンワン!

What am I looking at here?

There are now more Japanese people than cucks on Mastodon.

it's an attempt to destroy gnu social

is there one for gnu social?

Any good server that hasn't been blocked by and doesn't block Mastodon?

That's impossible.

bump

Every thread on 2ch now has a link to share that thread on gs.smuglo.li.

Example thread hitomi.2ch.net/test/read.cgi/poverty/1493030212/

It's pretty cool, isn't it?

You mean that mastodon doesn't block ?
Reminder that the mastodon community (and microsoft) are making blocklists out of pure bullshit
example: oppressive shiposting (pic related)
community.highlandarrow.com/notice/845817

If you're not on that list then your instance is full SJW. And by that I mean you, HLA.

You guys have been slacking with the loli posting lately, I guess.

ロリコンです。

where do you think we are ?


funny word to say censoring

lol

Working on it.

let it take it's course
soon, only few major players will stay and others will die out

Mastodon is a Ruby implementation of GnuSocial because PHP is horrible. Why are people making a big deal of it? If one node in the federation blocks other nodes on the network, all it's doing is just it's cutting itself off from the rest of the network. It's damaging itself. Not others.

...

Regardless of language, the problem is that mastodon breaks features and doesn't support shit like bangtags and public timelines.

...

Not only pic related but it's also because Gargon is a absolute piece of crap socially speaking and technically speaking he can't even respect rfc2616.

They have business behind them Microsoft is one of them and who support also the bloclist.
If people are going into it not only they are going into twitter 2.0 but it will also give a shit reputation to free software.
Divide and conquer
Nothing new

Holy shit. There's no way that second one is real. ... Right?

I wonder how many of the accounts on the quitter nodes are bots.

There's unfortunately no source so don't trust it.
But if you look at the privacy terms of mastodon it's more than probable
mastodon.social/terms
Especially when you look at all the shit gargon did.

I wonder how much of the public timeline is mastodon timeline

Does anyone actually take this seriously?


It's fake. It's a reference to a quote from Suckerberg when Facebook got popular.

en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Mark_Zuckerberg

no.

>mastodon.social/terms
What does this mean?

I'm trying to understand how this works. Is GNUsocial federated in the sense that it's free software and anyone can host "their own twitter", or is it federated in a sense like USENET, where each GNUsocial instance forwards messages to the other ones? And if it's federated in the second sense, I assume the problem here is that Mastodon is encouraging communities to instead be based around isolated instances like in the first sense, so that they can be controlled more easily?

I mean a server in which I can see what Mastodon users post, as well as all the other ones. Is there an updated, public list of instances blocked by Mastodon? I can't seem to find one.

Yes. GNU Social is federated like email, where a cock.li account can send and receive messages from Gmail.

The problem with Mastodon is that it's blocking instances, which would be as ridiculous as Gmail blocking all cock.li users.

Not only that, but it seems (I'm not very informed in this part) that Mastodon is actually a fork of GNU Social with extra features. Now, that wouldn't be a problem by itself, that's the GPL way anyway; the problem is that some regular news websites like Mashable are telling people to join Mastodon and talk about the whole federated network as if it was a part of Mastodon. No mentions about GNU Social at all.

Whether or not this is just ignorance and lack of investigation or a malicious attempt to undermine GNU Social and boost Mastodon; the fact is that if Mastodon gains enough traction, other servers might have to adopt it's code and it's terms of service or risk not being a part of the Mastodon network. Literally an Embrace, Extend, Extinguish scenario.

This is a very big issue. I frequently see people who don't understand federation, or even that gnu social exists. And they often try to, somehow, get people banned from "mastodon" (meaning gnu social as a whole) because they have no idea how any of it actually works. I've seen retards try to get people banned from different instances, for breaking the rules of mastodon.social or whatever spinoff instance they're using. Or telling people on the free speech instances (including the admin of SPC) shit like that they "don't belong on mastodon".

To lambda, just a thank you for taking the time to actually document what's missing/todo from your backend in issues.

Why can't Freetards into UI/UX, but this Mastadon software (that everyone seems to hate) does it a lot better? I don't think I can think of a time where it has not been the case.

Mastodon is good

Mastadon has a shitty UI unless you're registered, as far as I can see, and it's probably still shit when logged in
Also, Mastadon is AGPL, so I'm not sure where you're getting the freetard insult from

What's with the low tier trolling? Do you have the intellectual capacity of a 12 year old?

First, for admins, Mastadon sucks more memory than a starving whore sucks dicks
Second, it has a bunch of retarded federation breaking shit
Third, Gargles strikes me as nu-/g/ incarnate. I'm sure he lurks, at the very least, and probably more. As far as I can tell by his mannerisms, and I'm pretty good at telling that.
Sure, he loves da free software, but he's not only an arrogant prick but also a social justice faggot. Being a thirsty feminist nu-male Rails developer can be forgiven, it pales in comparison to having a shit eating grin while ignoring the fact that you broke shit with your """"""pure"""""" """"""Ruby"""""" (Rails is hardly even Ruby) vomit in a pre-established community.

I'm glad that the nips are "shitting" up "Mastadon" with loli. I can only imagine that the nu-/g/ in him shit himself when he realized that it wasn't just going to be leftists and black genderqueers blogging on his shitty software, and he was going to have to deal with prepubescent animay tiddys.

Since all of the terms are vague it's always up to interpretation.
From my experience in legal shit when they say offline that means when you aren't logged to the website.
Except if you autologue (aka save login and password in browser) if you do this then legally it's considered OK too sniff everything in the browser.

Mastodon is a fork of Gnu social there is no mystery about that.

You means with less features.
That pric of gargon forgot to re implement shit tons of things when he decided to reinvent the wheel in ruby on rail.
Plus he violates http standard like this user said.
And lets talk about breaking the Ostatus incompatibility and the DDOS on the fedivers that his ""improvements" did.

This
It's even more obvious when you know that some blocklist where made by a Microsoft employee


No there isn't.
Why ?
Because gargon wants to look like the good guy.
If he did such publicly announcement people would see his hypocrisy.

Honestly I find mastodon UI not intuitive but it's nice to look at.
Also if you wonder about why they can make it look good ask yourself where the money comes (or how) and you'll see that there are some powerful forces in the background.


It's worse than that. (pic related)
And it's makes you think how can his server withstand such amount of users.
It's impossible for a fresh IT guy with limited resources to pay for so much hardware.
And when you see the datamining shit in the privacy terms and the microsoft people involved in it there is no coincidence.
Gargon should end himself for what he has unleashed.
This will taint the free software community for a long time.

quadpiece is a fucking cuck

the metal band?

who gives a shit about this, you damn autists

That's autistic, m8.
It's just an arrogant faggot circlejerking with other arrogant faggots. "Oppressive shitposting" sounds like a joke, until you realize that they pretty much all think like that. It's no joke.

Well not really when you see that the initial mastodon.social has more than 4k people on it how much hardware do you need for it ?
When you see how weirdly the quad server was used for just two users.
Plus when you correlate that with the Terms of privacy on it it becomes obvious that mastodon is financed in exchange of data.

The problem with that theory is that Gargamel wouldn't be blocking half the other instances if this was the case.

Yes and no
If mastodon gets data from lets say SPC does it belongs legally to mastodon ? or SPC ?
Simplest guess is that it belongs to SPC and still under the rules/license of SPC if that is the case then gargon doesn't give a fuck about other instances that aren't mastodon or liking is balls.
If you look at LA the license of any post is under CC-BY-SA which indirectly stop datamining because since it's copyleft the databrokers have to put the results of the correlation of the data under the same license thus meaning putting the results publicly available thus meaning that databrokers won't be happy that other can share the result of the data freely thus killing datamining.
Of course this doesn't activaly/directly stop datamining but it's a legal protection.
An active protection against datamining would be at least an instance on a Tor node, I2P or gnunet (of course it only works if the user doesn't put personal information and stay anonymous but at least on the technical side it's ok)

Gargon is having enough data from other mastodon instances too, why do you think there's google shit in the source code for example
icosahedron.website/users/halcy/updates/25403
The google webfont permits google to track entire users on other servers do you think it's a coincidence that gargon put that shit in it ?
Of course admins can remove it (if there isn't to much dependency) but literally no one knows about this.

Gargon isn't smart enough to have made by himself the terms of privacy he doesn't even understand how the GPL works.
That's why it's more than possible that there's people backing him up it's too much coincidence in a short amount of time.
-De-federating from gnu social
-Not respecting http and Ostatus standard breaking even more the federate nature of the software
Can't you smell the merchant ?

lel. so someone forked an open source project specifically designed to let people control their own data, hosted their own server and followed the laws of their country (blocking nazi speech)

why are you guys so butthurt? the point of free software is you can do what you want with it

The point of free software isn't either to be controlled by corporations or CIA niggers you know.
Possible Embrace, extend, and extinguish in progress.

The proper analogy would be that some faggot made his own super email server that breaks compatibility with others and a bunch of genderqueer fags are trying to block all wrongthink email servers.
I'm not worried. They can't contain it.
And good on gargles for some brilliant marketing. He grew the network substantially.
It doesn't make him any less of a faggot through, until he fixes his shit.

Pleroma is the future, though.

It will be when it won't require javascript
Otherwise it's pretty nice.

It's even on Holla Forums now.

It's an SPA, it will always require javascript. Although it could serve the first response complete with content, so at least some JS-free browsing would work.

Test post xd

Good post!

GNUSocial and Mastodon are federated services. If you are worried of a takeover than make your own instance FFS. If that instance gets banned than create a new one. Fuck man if you're going to shill then have coherant arguments.

Because (((nepfag))) is a global moderator for Holla Forums. He probably bought the ad space with his moderation paycheck.

They don't even pay me.

I do it for free. Without financial compensation.


Will I manage to get the correct image this time?

The faggot is doing it MASTODON TM

Which is it, 2chan or 2channel? I can't even tell from their dumb explanation.

They're normalfags, they've never understood the difference between 2chan and Futaba channel, and they never will.

Is this a problem since there's already a band with that name?

If gargron was alone it would.
But he's supported big big entities.

Trademarks are only relevant within the domain
You see many of the same words as trademarks in varying domains
So, no.

Trademarks are only relevant within the domain
You see many of the same words as trademarks in varying domains
So, no.

toot.cat/users/cwebber/updates/21312
Christopher Allan Webber
This is the piece of trash that is trying to censor the web and reality itself.

dustycloud.org/blog/possible-distributed-anti-abuse/
How the fuck can he be a free software developer and promote censoring garbage ?

I don't see anything wrong with that. Users should be able to block servers they don't like for some reason in their TL or whatever. Same with users.
The problem comes with admins blocking all members of a server but I'm not sure how you can solve that. Those might be constituted as a threat to the network, but they'd justify it saying that the servers they block are the true threat to the network.
I don't mind "tools" as long as it doesn't mean that the network becomes useless due to federation not working.

So, he may or may not be a pompous faggot, but there's nothing truly disagreeable in his statements.

You don't see the problem about 1984 ?

Blocking a server is completely unreasonable.
Server wide blocking should only be done when legal problem can occur (for example when the server is hosted in a country that doesn't allow loli)
Blocking a user on another hand can be justified.
If it's spam I understand that someone block one individual.
But blocking posts because it contains x word in it is just madness
It's self-censoring and that's not how you evolve correctly.
What he's proposing goes right in the Orwell zone.

dustycloud.org/blog/possible-distributed-anti-abuse/
Everyone I Don't Like Is Hitler (pic related)

So if enough people/bot aren't happy then
and again "Everyone I Don't Like Is Hitler"

Implying Poorfags can't have a decent conversation and the internet dies.

So that's basically a general blacklist method not very practical to discover other people goes against the principal of federated network and sharing.

Asking to a third party to censor shit aka going back to twitter or facebook

Social networks aren't emails.

AI to enforce an ideology

AI to enforce an ideology that makes AI to enforce another ideology

Same shit has Genetic programs and machine learning.

Indeed he just wants to bring peace by putting the fire under the rug.
I don't think he wants to do bad thing1 (except if you consider him has CIA) bad what he his proposing is really destructive to communication between people.

I didn't read his tism, the shit he says on the face of it is not disagreeable though.
Users should be able to block whole servers on the client side. It's that simple. It's no more 'censorship' than me filtering a tripfaggot.
Admin blocking of servers, though, is a tough one. Sometimes there may be malicious servers. Of course, it's mainly just special snowflakes blocking what they don't like.
If finely grained filtering were available to users, either server-side or client-side, they would not a good excuse to 'censor' whole nodes.

This is how you sound user.

So when people only talk to you nicely you believe everything they say ?
But shit like
Just by these two lines I can effectively tell you that he believes that people are weak and must protect them.
Well I to but I don't treat them has weak people like he does by providing tools to make them even more weak.

No users should be able to block entire servers.
But I don't reject the idea of blocking people one by one.
Admins are the only ones that should be able to block server wide and only when justified.

Yes it matters.
It's elf-censoring you idiot, have you ever read the work of Darwin ?
Because it also applies to the mind.

Actually if you add read what was posted before instead of being mentally challenged you would have known that instance blocking is only justified when laws in the said country could make the server shut down.
This has already happened with a server in canada.
A remote server not in Canada posted loli content, a user on the Canadian server liked and shared the post, the admin was then shut down by the leaf loli police.
Shit laws are the only reasons why a complete server should be blocked.

Yes, they should. They should also be able to block any message with the word 'toast' in it, for example. It doesn't bother me any.
Accessible, easy, fine grained filtering is control. The more control you give users, the less excuse admins have to block entire servers.
That too, but also servers created solely to flood the network with spam, and then remote following to shit up server's timeline. It will probably happen at one point.

I agree with this post.

LOL
news.ycombinator.com/item?id=14290985

Still don't agree people just have to block the people they don't want to see.
If you put that much filtering power in the hands of mentally Ill people they will never see anything else than their own dysfunctional fake reality.
It's the same problems that Hikikomori's have but in the virtual world.

When a user can block any users their isn't much to blame the admin for.
Otherwise it's retarded.

Mastodon et al. require persistent identity. For shame, Anonymous.

Then propose an anonymous function for postactiv.
Federated anonverse

tokumei exists

P-Public access UNIX will bounce back any day!

Please put a little bit of effort in when posting content from garbage websites. I'm not clicking on that shit.


archive.fo/xumJd
archive.fo/e6LoB

>archive.fo/xumJd
>archive.fo/e6LoB
I'm not clicking that shit.
web.archive.org/save/_embed/https://cherubini.casa/why-i-shut-down-wizards-town-and-left-mastodon-6d4e631346b3?gi=ddb9f2ddc2bd
web.archive.org/web/20170510180040/https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=14290985

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Aren't the FBI datacenter installations in arizona ?
CIA is in Utah if I am correct ?

>fbi.gov/contact-us/field-offices/phoenix
web.archive.org/web/20170510202441/https://www.fbi.gov/contact-us/field-offices/phoenix
Hum....
That's it I'm migrating to endchan.
I hope Jim is will go out of this shit one day.

I haven't been able to find any info elsewhere so I might as well ask here. Anyone know why quitter.no closed registrations and if/when they are going to reopen?

You have the whole fediverse and want to be on a specific server ?
fediverse.org/

Good riddance. Fucktards not wanted.
1) If he ran a real GS instance, he wouldn't have the caching problem.
2) kill yourself if you're from a country where drawings are a crime

Pixiv started their own Mastadon instance (Pawoo) so I made an account. Seems alright to me, less shitty than Twitter, but I only follow other people on that instance so I don't really know about the rest of this drama.