Why are ugly people allowed to exist?

Why are ugly people allowed to exist?
Eugenics when tbh

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Whites are the most attractive race

how does leftism answer to that?

How do you know you're the pretty one OP?

Even if I was ugly I wouldn't mind being prohibited from breeding.

The problem with ugly people is that they seek out fellow ugly people (because no good looking person wants to associate with them) to create turbo-ugly babies.

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Also post your pic

Is this projection? I know plenty of guys who are ugly/average with good looking gfs. Or are you talking about black man white woman shit in which case i was baited into a Holla Forums thread

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poltard approach

enlightened techno-leftist approach:

Ugly people don't like how they look either, user. Humane thing is to help them/us (if they want to, of course).
Human body is just a physical object, it can and should be changed if necessary.

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Literally morphological freedom.

Your body is your property, at least this is the thing libertarians get right.

Of course state of art in technology severely limites how humans can change themselves, that's why we should invest in science & technology and enhance the efficiency of R&D.

tbh I think solving human problems (as if diseases; death) is much more important than politics.

pleb

Ill turn into a tentacle monster and rape ur mum whadya gonna do bitch?

I don't see how a society of happy tentacle monsters is a problem at all.

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How do sustain our population if people stop having sex because everyone is a freakshow, or, alternately, everyone is stuck in their VR world with their waifu because real people are ugly?

cloning and artificial insemination

The real problem is the human body. We need to all become brains in jars that can be switched with modularized bodies so we can take on idealized tentacle forms. Though, if everyone is a tentacle monster, IRL tentacle porn just won't work…

1) Pay people to reproduce or make reproduction a honorable duty.

2) Create artificial pathways for reproduction, it is long-term but there is already research about supporting animal embryos in artificial wombs.

For now it's some variant of 1.

Also your freakshow thing sounds like a straw-man to me. I think that given freedom people will just make themselves super-beautiful, flamboyant, maybe exotic (see second life).

Wanting to be a non-human is a very niche thing.


Why? It is physically possible to modify human body without full brain extraction. Of course people will choose the least risky/radical procedures to achieve what they want.

If we're just brains in jars you might as well start programming a complete virtual reality where everyone can also create their own sub-realities according to their preferences.

Assuming this is the case we would cease to reproduce at all but also, presumably, would be immortal.

You don't. It's unethical and usually fails.


Won't usually work. History proves me right.

Why are people allowed to exist?

We don't have a moral obligation to sustain the human race. Taking lives may be wrong, but the same can hardly be said for not creating life.

But what if you want to stop being a tentacle monster, or be a different color of tentacle monster, or be a tentacle monster with a different number of tentacles, etc…

Ultimately, we should just destroy our brains and turn into complete robots.

I'm not a huge fan of the idea just because that leave us at the mercy of IRL. Who is going to defend us against an asteroid?


If we all become roboticized intelligences it won't matter.

Assuming the robot intelligence thing falls through, we could invent artificial wombs.


This is a valid point. Given the large amounts of energy and other resources involved, we'll have to tightly control the rate of expansion.

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But who will raise the children? Do you think a bunch of dispassionate community workers are enough? They would probably have to care for these children in large groups, which means that not only will the children lack intimacy with any guardian figure but also lack privacy since they are always among other children.

It's a niche now because most people don't tap into the sort of environment that promotes this kind of thing. But if you look at humanity as a whole we seems to be fucking obsessed with changing our body. In fact, NOT changing our body seems to only have started with, I don't know, agriculture? Basically every primitive civilization tattoos and pierces themselves like crazy.

Nietzsche would murder everyone in this thread tbh

Why are weebs that are into trash moe anime allowed to exist?
Can we fix this with eugenics?

Well, no, since weebs don't reproduce. Even if they did it's not genetic tbh.

And I thought the nazis had bizarre masturbatory fantasies.

Can't wait for communism so I can turn myself into pic related

Why are shallow people allowed to exist?
Abyss when tbh

shit thread tbh

Ugh, no. You don't own your body; you are your body. The gap between being your body and possessing your body is far greater than the difference between owning your body and slavery (in which another claims "ownership" to your body).

In this state of slavery, according to your view, you have relinquished control of your body, but not your self. I believe this view to be completely absurd - pure ideology!

how does leftism answer to the problem of eventual Idiocracy? with subhumans and shitskins of all varieties, and low iq people in general having far more babies than normal people it is a matter of time. There needs to be some kind of meritocratic system or else disgenics is the natural outcome.

No. Alien hand syndrome. The rest should be self evident from that starting point.

the best chance mankind has of surviving as a species, is to keep as divers a range of genetics possible, available to us. simply truth.

Well, we can't simply separate this statistic from the world it originates. First and foremost, the issue of rapid conception lies within the education of the people. People aren't simply born predisposed to want a certain number of offspring, regardless of race or what have you. Their desires are conditioned by their environments, so if the environment does not foster reasoning on the subject in the person, it is a fault of the surroundings - not the person.

To put it simply, if people had equal access to an education (more specifically on reproduction and child rearing) then we wouldn't have the issue you posit of an ever-stupider human race.

But we already have equal access to education, especially reproduction. Some people are simply born more stupid, and the natural survival strategy embeded in them is to create as many offspring as possible to maximise chance of surviving ones.
Usually in the natural world it balances out, because there is not enough resources for all of them, and only the stronger ones survive, but when a government keeps them alive artificially they can keep pumping out more and more.

Err, phantom hand syndrome you mean?

That's a rather poor premise to rest your case on. I hope you're not trying to suggest that this "misrepresentation" in the mind regarding the hand is evidence that we are more than physical beings or something…

This is hardly the case. Do you think the inner city schools that are horribly underfunded and sort students by their likelihood to graduate are offering the same quality education as the school in the suburban white neighborhood?

That's not how evolution works, which I assume you're talking about based on the social darwinist narrative you're spouting. Evolution favors those who are able to reproduce the most effectively. It could give a fuck less if you "fit in," so long as the generations keep coming (which fitting in helps).

Yeah, as necessary to sustain the domestic labor force that blacks make up. Slavery didn't end in the U.S, it simply took another form more acceptable to the times.

I've read how those inner city schools operate. It's not because they are underfunded and shitty. Its because niggers cannot behave in school when they comprise a majority. Wether its cultural or genetic its a fact.
I grew up in a post soviet school with garbage teachers and a crumbling, old exterior more resembling a prison than a school. No clubs, only gulag. But there was discipline because kids were white.
Inner city schools are under immense pressure to pass as many of those monkeys as they can, even if they never even show up to school, because otherwise it would be racist and their funding would be cut.

nigger, the weak offspring end up getting eaten by lions, or by their siblings.
thats the problem, they are not reproducing more efficiently, because naturally animals with that reproductive strategy have a 10% offspring survival rate, and welfare artificially raises that.

there is a shortage of jobs u dip, the nigger and spic jobs are usually reserved for young HS and college kids to get experience, and now they can't find jobs without some kind of contacts to help them. So do the low educated blue collar workers who have their jobs taken over by beaners who work cheaper.

And the biggest problem of them all is that average IQ will steadily drop with a few points every 2 generations until finally there is societal collapse.

Unless eugenics can make people 2D it won't fix the ugly problem.