The Danish Road: How to escape Capitalism and help Rojava

A lot of people find themselves caught in a life where they feel they have no options and no hope for the future.
Likewise, a lot of people want to help Rojava, but don't really want to risk their lives in the YPG.

Well, there's an option for all of you out there: Come to Denmark!

If you come here and live and work for at least 30 hours a week for two years straight and pay taxes, you can have a free education; why is this important?

Well, more so than warriors, Rojava needs organic farmers, since they have abandonned chemical fertilizers

coopfunding.net/en/campaigns/feed-the-revolution/

Now, one of the best organic farming schools in the entire world happens to be in Demark, on Kalø.

kalo.dk/

Getting and education in organic farming can last anywhere in-between 1 year and 4.5 years, depending on how specialized you want to become.

So if you come here and work for two years, you can get an education and help the Kurds out in a way that means a whole lot.

With you're a citizen of the EU, you don't even have to work for two years.

We could set up a network for you guys, so we can help each other out and then eventually go to Rojava to help feed the revolution.

or you could just stay in DK to escape the US or whatever hellhole you're from

Anyone interested?
Any questions on this idea?

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libcom.org/library/rojava-reality-rhetoric-gilles-dauvé-tl
filmsforaction.org/articles/mr-anarchist-we-need-to-have-a-chat-about-colonialism/
nimh.nih.gov/about/director/2014/ketamine.shtml
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Enjoy your prostate cancer.

They don't have access to chemical fertilizer.

How are you going to do anything but organic farming?

Don't shit on something just because hippies like it.

What kind of physical fitness levels are going to be required?

For what? There's no fitness bar for working as a farmer although it is physically challenging work (especially in spring)
Fighting in the YPG requires a little more though.

Completely politically impotent

libcom.org/library/rojava-reality-rhetoric-gilles-dauvé-tl

Rojava: reality and rhetoric - Gilles Dauvé

How does one reliably immigrate to Denmark?

I wouldn't mind going if there was actually a way to go there.

dude everything are chems. this whole organic farming thing is a meme because you want to select for strains of your crops that are the most robust, and use pesticides so you're not fucked

Wouldn't it be easier to find a way to make or import fertilizer in the next 3 years than train tons of people in organic farming?

Denmark doesn't have full employment, what makes me more likely as an immigrant to find work than the 4% of the labor force who are trying but unable to find work at the moment?

Am i supposed to use some kind of secret danish job tree that danish people don't know about but is easily accessible to people from the other side of the planet?

If you are in Eu country you can move to Denmark without any problem.
I can legally be just 3 months per year in Denmark if I have labor visa

Said the leftcom, who considers historical reenactment theater "politics"

Do you live inside or outside the EU?
If you live in the anglophone world, it's even easier to get in.

How? Are they going to magic a chemical factory into existance? They do not have the resources to make chemical fertilizers, they want to converty to green agriculture anyways, and they need food right now.


It has less unemployment than most other places, meaning that finding a job, even if it's a shitty one, is fairly easy.
Also, our de facto minimum wages are really high, so you can live relatively comfortably even with a "bad" job.

I live in Burgerland.

filmsforaction.org/articles/mr-anarchist-we-need-to-have-a-chat-about-colonialism/

What a surprise, a left com being ultra-leftist.
"Politically Impotent!" cries the ideology that hasn't been relevant since the Spartacist Uprising.

No, they would have to build one. They would have to acquire those resources or establish some kind of trade.

If they need food right now then a 3 year plan for organic farming training is irrelevant, those 3 years could see them train their own farmers, establish trade or find a fertilizer they can produce.

If i wasn't considering suicide yesterday i would probably consider moving to denmark or somewhere, but i cannot begin to see how this plan will solve Rojava's issues in a reasonable timeframe.

This is a nice way to describe a slurry vat. Those things stink.

Is the Kalo program in english?

Then you'd have to apply for a visa

It all looks a little complicated for people living outside the EU, but it looks like you'll have to apply both for a residential visum and a labour visum, after which permanent residence or citizenship can be attained.

You you want me to research more?

And they need highly educated chemical engineers too.
Rojava does not have neither the industrial nor the intellectual background for that. For better or worse, they're stuck with organic farmining

in the meanwhile, the best education in organic farming is in Denmark.


They have an international programme, it would seem, but I recommend that you learn Danish.
If you take a look at the english page, you can probably find out for yourself.

I'm sorry but i think they have a better chance of getting those engineers or finding a way to get support or trade for fertilizer than they are a sufficient number of organic farmers in that timeframe. Yes, they cannot teach them themselves but they can draw them in the same way they would draw in these organic farming teachers.

courses are in danish or in English ?

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How? They're not drawing in organic teachers either if people like us go, and which do you think are more inclined to join a LibSoc revolution: Farmers or people with a p.Hd?

It appears they have both, but I would recommend learning danish, as it's a boarding school.

Either way, it's a way to go somewhere with a decent social security net.

One more thing

YOU CAN ALSO APPLY FOR A STUDENT VISA AND GO TO THE SCHOOL WITHOUT DOING ANYTHING PRIOR TO THAT, BUT IN THAT CASE IT COSTS ABOUT $100-120 A WEEK

Well, I live in northern europe too, so social security is fine at home :^)

Farmers are generally very community and family oriented people because of the way their work is done. I find it much harder to believe a farmer would uproot himself than an engineer, engineers LOVE devoting themselves to ideologies almost as much as they love suicide bombing.

What is up with this meme?

It doesn't make you a dirty pig person to have some attachment to other human beings. I just think its far more likely for people with large ties to their local community to support revolutionary efforts at home rather than abroad because they want to maintain those ties to their family and friends.

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That's the mark of a shit-tier engineer, that.

Do the Kurds actually WANT mass numbers of Western millennials coming in to farm?

if they're competent at it, why not.

They need skilled labour and other specialists more so than soldiers.

So

yeah.

Horribly offtopic but fuck it. If depression is what's getting to you, look into ketamine. It might just save your life.

Mcfuckingkillyourself

Did you even read his article? Rojava isn't socialist and has made little serious attempt establishing it. Sure, it's the best thing to happen in the region, but it isn't a revolution in a meaningful sense.

holy shit.
this is a really good idea.
too bad rojava wont survive for another 3 years

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I'm searching for tuition costs and whatnot, and it seems the damn thing's completely free for EU citizens or permanent residents, is that right? I assume the 30 hour/week requirement is part of permanent residence.

Anyway, the school's fucking minuscule. How do they pick students? Surely there's too much demand considering how damn many people can get it for free.

Well, there are no tuition costs. It's Denmark.
Lodging and food and books come at a price though and this is where the student salary comes in.
It doesn't seem that there are any real requirements, which makes sense since the agricultural sector is slowly dying within Denmark and they're desperate for people.

You will need some kind of primary education though.

Honestly, fuck Rojava. They are not my Comrades.

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will do this if something happens to my family and idgaf about getting shot by isis

OP, do you know anyone involved in Rojava solidarity stuff, boots on ground? I have a postgraduate qualification in crop diseases and how to protect farms from insects and shit, is something like that remotely of use?

it would be extremely useful

nimh.nih.gov/about/director/2014/ketamine.shtml

Drop the cigar.

The gif you posted is better antidepressant than any medicine ever could be.

Did you even read mine? 80% of Rojava's economy is collectivized.

So what you sayin' is to steal from other communities.
Come to Denmark, exploit the education system and then take said knowledge and move back to Rojava.
The reason why we have free education in Denmark is because we believe in those who get educated will cover the expenses later by paying taxes to the system once they have the required ability and knowledge to do so.

The cause is noble, but there must be at better way.

Would be interested just to get away from my hellhole. Is speaking English enough?

Now ketamine will be even more restricted. That treatment would impede on the profit the drug companies that rely on that slow treatment.

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Is this actually true? Most liberal democracies have free education because an educated population is necessary for democracy to function, not because of "muh investment in the future".

Sorry I have a hard time to see how a community is a bad thing. Everybody contribute and everybody get something.
Therefore if you come into said community take something and give to another community I can not see how such is fair.

Sure you can ague we should all set for an global community and such I can only agree on. But I still do not think this is the best way to achieve it.


It's a bit of both, our government and people have quite the porky mindset.
A lot of Danish people say they care for democracy and politics, but at the end of the day that couldn't be less true frankly.
As long as the beer is cheap and welfare is free, they do not care for quality of said.

Can't blame them. Beer is getting more expensive here every year.

A community isn't bad per-se. It's just a reflection to our biological need to socialization and our natural tendency of forming groups. Your apparent loyalty and disgust towards other people using it after working for two years and being "a good citizen" is the spook of your statement.

*likes and re-tweets u*

Now you are assuming more of me than I've expressed.
I have no disgust towards "other people", I don't like the leeching mentality that OP is proposing.

I know. That's why I said "apparent". I wasn't sure if I was understanding your arguments correctly, so I posed that as my take on what you said, and not what I thought you were.

Don't you think that if worked 30 hours a week for two years straight, you earned your right to enjoy the advantages the society gives to you? Like , clearly isn't about "investment into the future". Porky, by definition, don't care about the future, only about the bottom-line

Eurocommunism sounds a lot better than I was led to believe. Fuck you guys, I'm becoming a class traitor.


As far as economics go, that is about as benevolent as it gets. Income redistribution on an international scale.

I agree, there is a better way, but it's not like we had success popularizing ancom among the peoples of the Earth.

No buddy, you have to work 30 hours a week for two years and pay taxes first.
That's hardly "leeching".

Dunno how involved you are with this, but anyway, I have a BEng in electrical engineering. Trouble is, I have literally zero work experience in the field, which also means my theoretical knowledge is rusty. Would I have any value or would I be a glorified cabling installer?

Do you mean to Rojava?
I know that they're desperate for specialized labour right now.
So yeah, you might turn out to be a glorified cabling installer, but even that would be very useful to there guys.

I could easily remember what I learned by skimming some textbooks, but I couldn't bring any significant amount of them with me. I could look them up on the internet, but I don't know how accessible it is there.

Couldn't you maybe scan a lot of it and save it as PDFs and then bring a laptop?
I am pretty sure you could be helpful in building industry.

Scanning a significant amount wouldn't be viable. But anyway I could just try to pirate them now and bring in a laptop, and I feel stupid for not thinking about it.

Bump

Wouldn't an e-reader or fondleslab work better for that? You'd be able to grab a solar panel and charge them that way.

It's a good idea, but Kurdistan is not *that* third-world. They have electricity.