so jason "im a fat fucking tard" untrue made a "respond" video to our comrade rebel. needless to say it was pointless strawmanning and massive dunning-kruger tier shit.
i think this is a chance for Holla Forums to get some exposure on youtube. other leftists need to know about our presence and our ideas. each of us should make a respond video to this fat tard.
I understand that he was misinformed about the topic but do you really have to treat him like that. Leftists should discuss and educate. Instead of mocking him, why don't you just try to be kind. Honestly, I've seen some of his video, and he, personally, doesn't seem that bad at all. He even seems somewhat like a caring person. Or maybe I'm just hallucinating or something. We really need less destruction of one another though. The Right is becoming too popular and dangerous.
Carson Young
Jason, pls go.
It's not just that he's misinformed about the topic, but that he's vomiting forth non-Marxist shit, and passing it off as Marxism to an ill-informed audience.
For instance
Utterly false. Marxism rejects moralism. If he'd read any Marx he'd be able to grasp that fairly easily.
Lucas Cox
Hahaha no I'm not Jason, but like, ok. I don't know much but in his response, he said that it was moral in the sense that it was to move towards a better society? Isn't that true. Don't socialists want socialism because it's more "right" or better. Can't this be out of morality? Idk. My point was that the socialists argue with each other excessively and squabble as they have feuds among themselves. Meanwhile, the Right is growing ever stronger and more dangerous while its harder components focus on attacking the "left" (social liberals who are confused with us and help in our demonetization). We need to discuss, sure, but the highest priority now is getting out there backing each other in order to sweep the other side and get support.
Luke Diaz
Rebel when are we gonna BTFO Unruhuehuehue?
Joseph Morales
do it WITH him, id say we should make as many video from as many people as possible to expose our ideas
Adrian Peterson
Jason pleaseā¦
Parker Gomez
We're supposed to be doing a video together on it sometime soon. My finals have just been keeping me busy.
Brandon King
Pick one and only one response.
Xavier Jenkins
ITT: Triggered nihilists rage at the mautist for showing them to be a bunch of poseur LARPers who belong on reddit.
Adam Wright
Jason pls
Aiden Butler
Wish you guys had that much energy to go after right-wingers. At least small-time ones so you won't get eaten alive. That will give you way more exposure
Oliver Walker
It's a waste of time fam. Did you not see what an absolute shitfest it was when Xexizy and Yui tried to debate the Centre-Right people? They deserve nothing less than the gulag.
Nevertheless Rebel and I are supposed to be doing a video where we basically make fun of some absurd shit from Rothbard for the keks
Jack Johnson
LARPer pls
Josiah Long
smh seems more like you're the triggered one here
Eli Martin
just let him die already
Jackson Allen
What shitfest? What happened exactly? You don't have to debate them. Make responses. I don't think I'm saying this because I'm on your side, but the people here to seem to be smarter than the right-wingers who go out to preach. If you notice, if you don't count the social liberals, right-wingers don't fight one another and even promote each other. It's getting more and more impossible to discuss socialism. Soon we'll be up against even more massive and coordinated internet mobs. We need to push back.
Angel Harris
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Samuel Scott
m8, you just don't realize that the alt-right memes are out of control.
Trying to fight back against it directly with the pathetic amount of power and coordination that Holla Forums has would be like hitting your head against a brick wall of willful ignorance. It will do more damage to ourselves than to them. The only way to suppress the alt-right, like all fascists, is through overwhelming violence - which for the Internet amounts to shitposting the opposition into oblivion. But we don't have the numbers to do that, or the coordination and grip on theory to outreach to anyone.
m8, for real, anyone other than you can see that you're the butthurt one here
Sebastian Martin
Why ruin a completely fine video with involving Reble?
Ayden Reyes
The right recruits people through its overexposure, but fine. Destroy each other then.
Nathaniel Myers
He doesn't want to do it apparently. Maybe I'll just do it myself for the keks.
I've never bothered to get into the opinionstube bullshit on Holla Forums because it seemed like a waste of time to me, but it might be funny for Holla Forums's leading nihilist poster to stir up some drama with Jason over this.
smh if you guys don't learn tact you're just going to continue to fail pathetically at every attempt by the board to do anything besides respond to bait all day. It's fine by me though; I'm just a poster here. My political ambitions don't begin or end with Holla Forums
Asher Kelly
Fighting among each other is an awful display of tactics. At this time, it is beyond foolish. Look at history. We ought to go after each other only after we become popular.
Adrian Kelly
It also isn't bait. If you btfo someone on youtube, it does get more recognized as opposed to imagebaords and you begin getting an interested audience who may never have heard of your politics/philosophy. The tactics comes into how to proceed in video-making in terms of who to go after, how, when to make a purely edu. video and so on. If you do make something though, announce the name of your channel, so I can subscribe and whatever.
William James
You're not listening to what I'm saying. You're getting ahead of yourself. It doesn't fucking matter whether we fight amongst ourselves when Holla Forums simply does not have its shit together to begin with. There is no way that Holla Forums will ever be popular if it keeps doing what it's doing.
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Brandon Turner
fucking stupid Holla Forums fix your shit
Dylan Cooper
Don't forget to be as edgy as possible
Ayden Cruz
WHEN ARE WE DOING THE ROTHBARD ARTICLE N1X
REEEEEEEEEEEEE
There's no point in doing another response. I responded to it in the comments.
Doing a response to a response to a response is autism.
Ryan Moore
I do this all the time
I'm going to do one on Molyneux when I've done some stuff on christian socialism.
Jayden Morris
Wanting to move to a better society is not a moral argument. It's one that is based on self-preservation, self-interest, etc.
The type of moral argument that Marxism would make is the same ones that the Ricardian socialists did; i.e. workers have a right to their surplus value and it is an injustice that the capitalist takes from it. This is a valid argument, but it's not the fundamental one that Marxists use. That capitalism is inefficient, prone to crises, full of contradictions, etc are all more important than the moral argument.
Samuel Rodriguez
I for one prefer him from Rebel "Strasserites are socialists" Absurdity
Jackson Howard
Strasserites aren't Socialists. Useful Idiot was.
Deal with it Enver "Anyone I don't like isn't a socialist" Hoxha. He supported worker uprising and class warfare.
Charles Allen
You guys need to just accept that he's right about basically everything. Everyone freaked about his 9/11 shit but if you don't agree with him you're not really understanding this struggle.
Jason Young
This.
He is more harmful to us than advantageous, as he is being a caricature of the left, he is a reductionist idiot with stupid meme opinions he got from the internet. Third Worldism is so fucking stupid that him propagating it makes us all look like idiots.
Jason has nearly ZERO understanding of Marxist theory or history.
The best way to deal with him is to intellectually one-up him. Humiliate him using our superior knowledge of philosophy and theory. Point out his theoretical weaknesses the way people like Daniel Buntovnik did (albeit from a Maoist - rather than Trotskyist - perspective).
Example: two groups which were both proto-Third Worldist AND nihilist were the Weathermen and the RAF. Why doesn't Jason ever talk about them in his videos?
Charles Diaz
He is not wrong about that, but he is still a massive faggot.
Luke Nelson
Third Worldism itself is a nihilist position.
Elijah Gray
Please do more on Sargon, I bloody love it when that fucker gets roasted
Joshua Morgan
Project 572: shut down Jason Unruhe
I recommend flagging as many of his videos as you can for promoting terrorism.
Jaxon Miller
Boo
Ethan Barnes
next time he does something particularly stupid, sure.
Nathaniel Richardson
Cop fuckers GTFO
Gabriel White
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Camden Garcia
ayyy Reddit_obesity BTFO'd Jason. he can taste the salt tbh.
Noah Butler
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Nathan Wright
Yeah the Weathermen were third worldist as fuck, but I don't see how RAF were at all. Wasn't their entire goal revolution within first world West Germany?
Camden Edwards
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Colton Russell
JASON WHAT ARE YOU DOING JUST KILL YOURSELF ALREADY.
Zachary Thompson
Again, Jason receives narcissistic injury from a pinprick. He is NOT mentally stable. If I lived anywhere close to him I'd be fucking terrified he'd come after me given how prone he is to violent outbursts.
James Davis
Case-in-point.
Jason's angry tweets here also show how, for him, First vs. Third World is nothing but a show of his malignancy.
Even if we assume "First Worldists" have failed in their revolutionary efforts, that does not mean Third Worldists (note: not Third Worlders but Third Worldists like himself) have been successful in revolution themselves. First Worldist vs. Third Worldist is not a demonstration of the "failures" of First World Marxists but a foil.
Leo Anderson
Why do you keep giving this faggot attention
Chase Nelson
Because he's a ticking timebomb and it's fun watching him explode.