Will automation actually reduce work or will it just open up new ways to enslave us?

But wouldn't it just open up new jobs elsewhere like the mechanization of agriculture did?

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because the majority are still under the impression that one must justify his right to live by spending a minimum of 8 hours a day selling his labour to a corporate pig.

No, because the automation of thinking will allow for automated machines to handle themselves. The amount of jobs removed from the market will absolutely dwarf the amount created. Taking care of defective machines? If you can create machines even a fraction as smart as a human that can think on their own, you don't need humans for that job. Managing the use of robots? You don't need a human for that, just get another robot. Almost every role you can think of can and will be filled should artificial intelligence reach a point where AGI is a reality.

Accelerating too fast in too many areas.
Especially when (if) we reach the robotic singularity: humans will almost wholly be removed the production process.

I've only had an introductory class on AI but based on that I wouldn't trust AI to do anything important. I doubt it's some kind of magic bullet.

People already are, AI run the stock markets and cause micro crashes in order to make massive amounts of money. Even at this primitive level, learning algorithms are capable of figuring out really impressive shit - obviously, we're still far out from general intelligence that can learn any task given enough time but in 10 years we managed to create amazingly smart learning software that helps us every day and the rate of progress is only going to keep getting quicker.

It's already happening. Keep in mind that these AIs don't need to be intelligent - not even 'AI': good use of automation scripts and a database can already displace flesh-and-blood workers. So much so that it's interesting we don't see that more often already.

Just wanna note that for two posts in a row you've taken the words out of my mouth.

You all speak like automation could ever become a thing under communism. We all know how shitty were the computers of the soviets, stop pretending anything but corporate greed can achieve complete automation.

Read Michio Kaku

Just putting this here
youtube.com/watch?v=SLNo4lMC8bM

It's fascinating that name- and tripfags are so predisposed to touching the poop. Guess it comes with the brazen narcissism.
Nobody was even talking about automation under communism - instead about automation that leads to socialism/communism.

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Keep dreaming little revolutionaries, we are building the world out there.

Hard at work, producing the most constipated shitposts, I see. You'll have to clench tighter though.

We shouldn't forget that some roles will always need to be done by humans.

We don't want robot teachers, robot carers for the elderly or disabled; those roles need human compassion and connection.

That's one of the main PR fields for robotics. Nobody cares what they actually need, people are happy they don't have to deal with them.

Naw dude that's fucked up. People need people. Disabled and elderly people can get lonely and they will want human care and human attention.

Too bad, all they get is badly synthesized voices and cold bodies. Just search for robots and elder care and you will find tons of articles celebrating that we will be able to just throw old people away when they become a burden without having to feel guilty.

to be fair, I'd rather have a robot wipe my ass than a human

Actually, arguably a robot could be better for both of those roles due to a robot being capable of eventually equal capability as a human and being able to dedicate 100% of its attention to a single person in need of support.
It may seem disgusting and strange now, but that is a very possible future.

I don't think the problem is the usage of the robot, but its exclusive use.

Caring for someone isn't just that kind of personal care, it's helping them interact with society in general.

I really doubt most disabled people, nor those that love them, would want that. Really.

You're a twat.

capitalists will try to sell better robots for a while and push UBI as a bandaid to keep the masses content.

after a while we'll go full communism and just need people to make better AI and robots.

I'm pretty sure the process of exterminism has already begun.
It's slow now, but the number of people essentially living outside of capital (proles who's labor is not worth purchasing because of technological progress and skill specialization) is increasing
the number of "failed states" will creep up over time as entire countries become unemployable. 1% of the population of, say, the democratic republic of congo, will be employed by capital for extracting/processing resources, a small percentage will be employed in ancillary services (when the 1% employed by capital spend money), and the rest will be self-employed or unemployed. This is already happening to a lesser degree all over.
China is probably the current nexus of global capitalism, so watch what happens there.
China CANNOT keep the majority of it's population employed unless it can somehow bounce from bubble to bubble indefinately

Automation vastly reduced the labour needed by horses. How did that turn out for the horses

Can Holla Forums explain this meme for me? I mean as you're posters on an imageboard you're surely familiar with the lives NEETs lead, right?

I don't want to sound like some sort of "work is good for you, heathen!" Calvinist, but wouldn't complete automation just accelerate the growing disconnect between the average person and society at large?

Horses weren't the ones buying the products of their labour.
The working class is also the consumer class. Capitalists don't make profit unless they earn wages.

You're also forgetting about the production class. Take a look at the slave labour that exists today. Whether it's an African child bound in chains or a Indian child who makes a penny from a days work, there's an enormous part of the world that has no money in their pockets for the capitalists to take. Third world countries get plenty of outside assistance which keeps their birth rates at unsustainable levels and keeps a healthy sized pool for slavers to have their pick from. Once robots are able to do the job of a slave while consuming less resources, there will be no reason for the slaver to bother to continue feeding or sheltering those slaves. Countless people will be starved to death, and those who revolt will be going up against robotic armies being pumped out of assembly lines. The land these slaves sit upon will be also be seen as more valuable than the slaves lives themselves as it is finite. The third world and it's inhabitants are going to be the primary casualty of automation

It can certainly not in perpetuity as global consumer demand will fall, as will capitalist profits.

Marx was right after all.

Neets are welfare queens, that exist only parasitically with regards to either the state or their parents.

When the economy hits the fan they will either die or change their ways.

Also even in an android utopia, complete automation would not be possible, someday has to create and repair the machines, unless we hit the singularity in which case we are no longer talking about regular human conditions.

That's mechanization.

I've been a NEET for a long time after some bad shit happened and probably will continue to be until November.
I agree that its lead to my alienation from mainstream society, but i don't believe it has lead to me being unable to engage in social interaction. My status leaves me undesirable, strange and generally rejected by normies but i still have plenty of connection with people in similar situations to myself and people i knew socially before the change in lifestyle.

The fact NEETs post on imageboards is on its own proof that social behavior and society can exist for NEETs, but i still believe whilst there is a large divide between NEETs and the majority it will be hard for them to interact meaingfully with that majority.

I guess I'd attribute it to a class difference rather than some inherent antisocial aspect of workless life. After all bourgeois families often have plenty of members that don't work, but they are still capable of interacting with the parts of society that are bourgeois.

It is soon all over. You cannot win combat drones in a revolution.