There's so much controversy as to what "real" national socialism is. Some say it is a right wing ideology, while others say it's a left wing ideology.
Here's some basic questions.
1. While there were mosques in Nazi Germany and black people, and even Jews were allowed to fight for Germany, and they were treated very well, but what would Hitler say about the current multicultural crisis in Europe?
2. What are the social, economic, industry, and all other areas of belief of NS?
3. Where are some good sources I can find about Hitler's views on race (non-white) and true tenets of NS?
It isn't socialism, that's for certain. Socialism describes collective ownership of,the means of production, whereas nazi germany still had corporations and privatised elements.
Joseph Hughes
thegreateststorynevertold.tv
I can't recommend this documentary enough. Yes, it's long. But it answers all of your questions and sources everything at the end of the film
Owen Evans
This. Cried like a bitch while watching this because the truth fucking hurts
Caleb Davis
Can you give me a laconic, I have a shit internet connection.
Anthony Powell
im lazy but he'd say it's fucked and would support a revolt. it's in the name, national socialism. socialism today works in favor to non national elements. you kill your economy investing in 3rd world 25 yr old sandniggers than spending on your own people. capitalism is used to serve the state and people RATHER than control it through international elements. take care of your nation and the state. takes pages from the early roman empire but less gay. hitler didnt really give a fuck instead of a few comments that should dtay as comments. read mein kampf. his views about the jews are way less radical to what people feel today.
Jeremiah Sullivan
A++
Bentley Rogers
It's on youtube, but it may be blocked in your country. There's a mega link somewhere on this site, but I cant remember where it's hiding. Ask Holla Forums to point you in the right direction
Carson Adams
Come back when you have an actual argument
Joseph Roberts
In other words, no. I can't summarize. There is too much information
Juan Reed
it's called an imageboard you dumbshit
Grayson Ward
It was a shitpost and you know it
Jeremiah Nelson
Give me all your Pokémon Cards!
Dylan Cooper
lol the 3rd reich had no real or consistent economic policies. first they borrowed a shit to of money, blew it on short term Arbeitsbeschaffungsmaßnahmen (unsustainable jobs programs) and then started a war when it all went to shit.
Anthony Jenkins
jude
Brandon Torres
100% effort post
Mason Roberts
It took as much effort as you bullshitting your way through your first post, kike
Hudson Allen
It would no doubt take mountains of effort to actually refute what I said as opposed to name calling.
John Garcia
Everything you said is refuted in the film I recommended to OP. Watch it or don't, I don't concern myself with what kikes do in their spare time
Robert Sanchez
yeah they said the same thing when they realized they were fucked. so to make some quick cash they started to rob hardworking jews, the Reichskristallnacht was born.
Joshua Rogers
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Elijah Perry
It's not an appeal to authority when the film has an entire 15 minute part dedicated to it's sources you fucking mongoloid
Bentley Butler
Then put them here instead of being a lazy fuck. I'm not doing your research for you.
Easton Murphy
AHAHAAHAHAHA
Asher Rogers
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Jordan Gomez
National Socialism is the only successful form of Socialism. Sorry. Feel free to go live in Venezuela.
Oh wow, it's almost like it was started by the working class or something. Almost like the poor needed the rich to sustain itself. Almost like Capitalism in action. Like a functional society or something. Huh. Weird. lolwat Yeah, it's not like Germany had clay to recover. Not like Russia was conquering nations and moving into Europe or nuthin. Nah, all Germany's fault. Let's not worry about context or how National Socialism and Fascism came about directly because Marxism was tricking gullible faggots into killing employers, burning properties, and overthrowing governments to put up unsustainable frameworks. It's not like people fell into National Socialism and Fascism because they fulfilled their promises. It's not like National Socialism did in under a decade what the USSR couldn't do in almost a century.
Samuel Robinson
It was never a unified ideology like communism or liberalism, with a worked out theory and a clear goal. It was opportunistic and used ancient fears and German culture to advantage, borrowing a lot of socialism for its basis. Everybody in the Nazi elite had his own idea of what NatSoc actually was. The basic things everybody agreed on were; 1. Germany should dominate the world 2. Communism has to be destroyed 3. The Jews need to disappear
Goebbels was really the main NatSoc intellectual and would have succeeded Hitler as the party leader, you are best of listening to his speeches if you want to understand NatSoc Germany.
Julian Nelson
Even wiki will tell you that socialism means no private ownership, and Venezuela is the result of a retarded government not doing what they promised.
Hunter Ward
Alongside the British Empire and Italy. That was something Hitler pushed from the start. Even until the end of the war, he had the strangest boner for Britain and was baffled over how the Empire was willing to ruin itself to fight Germany.
Bentley Bennett
Oh boy.
Colton White
For the last time, socialism describe so private ownership. Nazi germany had private owned corporations. It's not a no true Scotsman of it doesn't meet the criteria to begin with
Angel James
Oh boy!
Michael Harris
Yes, it isn't. Is there a problem?
Sebastian Allen
Only that the whole thing clearly goes over your head. I could explain it to you but I'm pretty sure you'll stonewall as you have no interest in crawling out from your death cult.
Gabriel Murphy
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Gabriel Gutierrez
Then explain why nazism posits that there should be no private property, and post any sources.
Noah Bell
Because Hitler and Goebbels were intelligent men who didnt believe in that fairy tale.
Anthony Harris
Then it isn't socialism. Private property = not socialism.
Grayson Morales
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Robert Ortiz
Which proves why Socialism doesn't work. People like to own things, they like property, and they don't appreciate assholes like you coming in, seizing everything they've worked for, give it to somebody else, and then congratulate them for seizing the means of production when you just robbed them of it. Faggot, that's what goes over your head. Nobody wants to live in a state where they're robbed and pushed around. That's what National Socialism fixed, it found a middle ground between the abuses of capitalism and the abuses of the state. That's why anybody who tries Socialism has to bow down to adding some aspects of Capitalism. How fucking dense are you? WHY DO YOU THINK THAT IS? Serious question: why? Why do you think that? Why do you think any so-called Socialism ends up keeping aspects of Capitalism? Is it because, I dunno, people hate being robbed and need some concessions to keep placated? Or is it dat ebil porky ruining our glorious workers utopia?!?!?!?! That's got to be it! Yeah, porky!
William Martinez
Incredible that after 70 fucking years people are still ignorant on National Socialism and Hitler. Just the fact that Hitler made the kikes buttmad for literally decades, almost a full century, shows that he was doing something right.
Levi Robinson
nationalizing your companies != kike socialism
Henry Morales
middle school tier never change, leftycringe
John Davis
Then why are you calling nazism socialism if it's a system you hate so much.
Sebastian Reyes
Typical OP, cherrypicking like a glorious winged faggot.
If I were a mod I would permaban you just to watch you cry about it
Cameron Martin
Fucking called it. If you're not even going to try, fuck off back to your containment board.
Samuel Sullivan
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Charles Young
Who's stonewalling? I asked a question about how nazism compares to socialism and you went off on a massive tangent. Now answer the fucking question, how does it compare, or admit that you're bullshitting because daddy adolf told you to.
Ayden Sanders
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Anthony Rogers
Reread my post Then read it again. Keep reading it until you stop being a faggot. The only successful form of Socialism was National Socialism. This is a fact.
Benjamin Sullivan
That post is a massive tangent that fails to address my question, which is this: HOW IN THE LIVING FUCK DOES NAZISM CLASSIFY AS SOCIALISM No, they doesn't mean you can sneer and call names, it doesn't mean you can go on tirades about unrelated crap, it means answer the goddamn question in plain English.
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Mason Foster
Natsoc wasn't sustainable. reichsmark would have plummeted if deutschland wouldn't have gone to war. this is a fact.
Ryan Ward
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Mason Carter
>>>/out/
Nicholas Cruz
So it's confirmed, it doesn't classify as socialism, and all you've got is dank reaction memes and name calling. Good to know.
Hunter Flores
Can you proveit would have stayed stable
Charles Clark
Nope. Germany secured an economy that it was able to generate towards a war. War economies don't happen unless there's an economy already in place to transition out of. You don't go from millions of reichsmarks to reasonably priced bread and say "hurrr, broken economics!!!!!" As always, leftists show they now shit about money. Which is why you fags support a government where money is meaningless and non-existent. If there's no money, there's no need to understand it! Check-mate capitalism!!!!!!!!!
Aiden Lee
Considering that Germany was in an economic boom during the 1930s while countries like the US were in full on great depression, I would say…
YES! IT'S PLAINLY FUCKING OBVIOUS THAT IT WAS STABLE YOU GODDAMN HOOKNOSED YID
Mason Sullivan
There is no comparison between NSDAP Germany's outlook on non-Aryans and modern day cuck Germany's outlook. He'd be disgusted and completely sickened. Anyone could could tell you this. If there's one thing that literally any westerner could (and probably would) tell you that is 100% true it's that Hitler would not have been happy with Europe's current predicament in the slightest.
Jayden Cruz
It was built on debt and war economy moving towards the remilitarisarion of the Rhineland, the ensuing war was essentially required else the economy would have nosedived, which it did anyway because hitler was a failure as a commander, and bit of far more than he could deal with.
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Asher Perez
Correct, he is saying that it doesn't classify under your definition of socialism.
Blake Garcia
I would like you to know that I did not read your post. You are a garbage pile of a human being and Israel will be a glass parking lot in no less than 50 years.
Bet on it, kikel
Carson Flores
The very essence of socialism that can be told to you by even wiki is that there is no private property en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socialism Read a bit.
Kayden Young
Whatever makes you feel warm and fuzzy, fam.
Isaac Turner
A boom isn't stability. It's a boom. And what usually comes after a boom, user?
Gavin Fisher
that's communism, retard, not socialism
Juan Davis
They both entail no private property, the primary difference is that communism is stateless, with no hierarchy.
Connor Price
Yet when Americlaps call something "socialist", that's probably not what they're thinking.
I wasn't meaning to say that your definition was necessarily wrong, just that it was different to his.
Lucas Martinez
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Bentley Hernandez
Oh, right. Still, most think socialism means "when the government does stuff"
Logan Hall
My question is how does nazism compare to socialism, you quibbled and rambled and went off on tangents and did everything except answer my question. Even now you go for paragraph after paragraph of tl;dr.
You know what, forget it. You clearly don't have a straight answer.
Jonathan Miller
>stonewalling yet again Wew lad. Fucking wew.
Christian Nguyen
NOT REAL SOCIALISM NOT REAL COMMUNISM WHAT KIND OF SCOTSMAN ARE YOU? NOT A REAL ONE!
Eli Powell
Quibble all you want about compromises and "forms" of socialism. It doesn't meet, the definition, it doesn't qualify.
John Jackson
How can you be this stupid?
Carson Williams
It's ok to not have an argument, just accept it and move on.
Adam Richardson
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Owen Young
Take your menorah and deep throat it till you puncture something vital and bleed out
Cameron Bailey
What is democratic socialism??? Ah man, I've never heard this before.
Adrian Wilson
But you wouldn't call a car a truck, no matter how it's painted or how much you autistically screech about it.
Pic related
Thomas Johnson
You're a joke.
You didn't read my post. You're literally taking what I wrote and rewriting it back at me. Kill yourself.
Jordan Murphy
Oxymoron. You clearly don't know much about the definitions.
Henry Hill
No u
Nathaniel Cox
No, definitely you.
Julian Edwards
You're the one who said that something that's literally called Socialism isn't Socialism.
Oliver Cooper
Nah fam, it's all in you.
Juan Smith
If it would get them votes, a politician would.
Grayson Reyes
You can call an apple a pear but that doesn't make it one.
Brayden Nelson
So, you don't know what either means? Man what a psychological projection this is that leads to: Which is not an argument.
Nolan Sullivan
No, see, what is this tactic? What the fuck are you doing? Making nonsensical statements and dressing them up as somebody else's words, fuck off.
Just leave already.
Colton Taylor
Nice strawman, should've tried replying to something I actually said. Secondly, where's the fucking source.
Samuel Campbell
LOL
Hunter Anderson
Because it isn't socialism, and your attempts to say it was resulted in essay length diatribes of crap. There is no compromise There is no flexibility Private property = not socialism, and that's all there is to it.
Eli Ross
W-w-what? You can't look it up yourself? Are you really this retarded user? That doesn't mean what you think it means, retard.
Julian Davis
No, misrepresenting my argument is a strawman, and that's precisely what you did. I didn't say it hadn't been tried, you threw that in yourself.
Levi Hill
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Tyler Ortiz
No retard, I'm saying it leads to it. Not that you think it. Learn reading comprehension and come back.
Leo Powell
And again, right over your head. If truth was hair, you'd scalp yourself just to dodge it. You can't address anything without falling back on your cultish sperging. You are a joke and nothing but a joke.
I think it needs clarifying for the viewing public that "private property" in this context generally refers only to the private ownership of the means of production (eg. businesses), and does not cover "personal property", which is things like your TV or weed stash.
Hunter Jones
Merriam is a credible source you stupid nigger.
Aaron Walker
And I can say that peeling an orange leads to nuking Iran, is that valid too?
Oh look, more namecalling.
Nolan Williams
Oh look, more of nothing to say. Just like the rest of the thread, zero input, zero consideration, zero self-reflection. You're a brainwashed mouthpiece. I will never get over how leftists claim they're for the people when they put no thought whatsoever in what people want or need or how they even function. Everything either has to conform to your fantasy or else it doesn't exist. How do you live like this?
Jaxson Ross
Just hide the thread, it's become such a clusterfuck.
Julian Rodriguez
And I can say that anarcho-capitalism is what we have today, is that valid too?
Oliver Howard
They literally got so asshurt after being forced to work honestly for once that they invented the Holohoax.
Wyatt Thompson
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Jayden Smith
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Aiden Davis
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Luis Reyes
I bet you think the Democratic People's Republic of Korea is a democracy too.
Lincoln Cook
Whats next? You're going to say that communist russia wasn't real communism? Oh wait… also a representative democracy is still a democracy you retard Honestly kill yourself Holla Forums. You lying, equivocating son of a bitch. You can't go a single day without using your own definition for things (which is no more than self aggravating propaganda), that isn't real nonetheless. Which is self evident in this thread (and leftypol in general). Here's what you brainlets always do: Every fucking time. Image related is for you.
David Moore
*there
Gavin Myers
It's actually centrist-authoritarian ideology. It's a mixture of big government and modern social programs combined with Hitler's ideas of purifying and finding old aryan culture. This is different to Fascism, for example, since fascism is far right RWDS and soviet communism LWDS. Hitler wasn't a very good military leader, but he had some good ideas to contribute to his economics policy and political system, which was proven when NatSoc germany took on, essentially, the entire world and survived for over ten years, only falling when Japan fucked up and brought America into the conflict, and when Hitler attacked the Societs to try to gain an advantage even though ideologically NatSoc and Soviet communism weren't all that different to eachother.
Wyatt Ortiz
Fuck, I meant aggrandizing. Anyway, I'm going to bed I'm very tired because I actually work for a living. Unlike some people… (/leftypol)