What is REAL National Socialism?

There's so much controversy as to what "real" national socialism is. Some say it is a right wing ideology, while others say it's a left wing ideology.

Here's some basic questions.

1. While there were mosques in Nazi Germany and black people, and even Jews were allowed to fight for Germany, and they were treated very well, but what would Hitler say about the current multicultural crisis in Europe?

2. What are the social, economic, industry, and all other areas of belief of NS?

3. Where are some good sources I can find about Hitler's views on race (non-white) and true tenets of NS?

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en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socialism
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oxymoron
merriam-webster.com/dictionary/communism
twitter.com/NSFWRedditImage

It isn't socialism, that's for certain. Socialism describes collective ownership of,the means of production, whereas nazi germany still had corporations and privatised elements.

thegreateststorynevertold.tv

I can't recommend this documentary enough. Yes, it's long. But it answers all of your questions and sources everything at the end of the film

This. Cried like a bitch while watching this because the truth fucking hurts

Can you give me a laconic, I have a shit internet connection.

im lazy but he'd say it's fucked and would support a revolt. it's in the name, national socialism. socialism today works in favor to non national elements. you kill your economy investing in 3rd world 25 yr old sandniggers than spending on your own people. capitalism is used to serve the state and people RATHER than control it through international elements. take care of your nation and the state. takes pages from the early roman empire but less gay.
hitler didnt really give a fuck instead of a few comments that should dtay as comments. read mein kampf. his views about the jews are way less radical to what people feel today.

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It's on youtube, but it may be blocked in your country. There's a mega link somewhere on this site, but I cant remember where it's hiding. Ask Holla Forums to point you in the right direction

Come back when you have an actual argument

In other words, no. I can't summarize. There is too much information

it's called an imageboard you dumbshit

It was a shitpost and you know it

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lol the 3rd reich had no real or consistent economic policies. first they borrowed a shit to of money, blew it on short term Arbeitsbeschaffungsmaßnahmen (unsustainable jobs programs) and then started a war when it all went to shit.

jude

100% effort post

It took as much effort as you bullshitting your way through your first post, kike

It would no doubt take mountains of effort to actually refute what I said as opposed to name calling.

Everything you said is refuted in the film I recommended to OP. Watch it or don't, I don't concern myself with what kikes do in their spare time

yeah they said the same thing when they realized they were fucked. so to make some quick cash they started to rob hardworking jews, the Reichskristallnacht was born.

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It's not an appeal to authority when the film has an entire 15 minute part dedicated to it's sources you fucking mongoloid

Then put them here instead of being a lazy fuck. I'm not doing your research for you.

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National Socialism is the only successful form of Socialism. Sorry. Feel free to go live in Venezuela.


Oh wow, it's almost like it was started by the working class or something. Almost like the poor needed the rich to sustain itself. Almost like Capitalism in action. Like a functional society or something. Huh. Weird.
lolwat
Yeah, it's not like Germany had clay to recover. Not like Russia was conquering nations and moving into Europe or nuthin. Nah, all Germany's fault. Let's not worry about context or how National Socialism and Fascism came about directly because Marxism was tricking gullible faggots into killing employers, burning properties, and overthrowing governments to put up unsustainable frameworks. It's not like people fell into National Socialism and Fascism because they fulfilled their promises. It's not like National Socialism did in under a decade what the USSR couldn't do in almost a century.

It was never a unified ideology like communism or liberalism, with a worked out theory and a clear goal.
It was opportunistic and used ancient fears and German culture to advantage, borrowing a lot of socialism for its basis.
Everybody in the Nazi elite had his own idea of what NatSoc actually was. The basic things everybody agreed on were;
1. Germany should dominate the world
2. Communism has to be destroyed
3. The Jews need to disappear

Goebbels was really the main NatSoc intellectual and would have succeeded Hitler as the party leader, you are best of listening to his speeches if you want to understand NatSoc Germany.

Even wiki will tell you that socialism means no private ownership, and Venezuela is the result of a retarded government not doing what they promised.

Alongside the British Empire and Italy. That was something Hitler pushed from the start. Even until the end of the war, he had the strangest boner for Britain and was baffled over how the Empire was willing to ruin itself to fight Germany.

Oh boy.

For the last time, socialism describe so private ownership. Nazi germany had private owned corporations. It's not a no true Scotsman of it doesn't meet the criteria to begin with

Oh boy!

Yes, it isn't. Is there a problem?

Only that the whole thing clearly goes over your head. I could explain it to you but I'm pretty sure you'll stonewall as you have no interest in crawling out from your death cult.

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Then explain why nazism posits that there should be no private property, and post any sources.

Because Hitler and Goebbels were intelligent men who didnt believe in that fairy tale.

Then it isn't socialism. Private property = not socialism.

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Which proves why Socialism doesn't work. People like to own things, they like property, and they don't appreciate assholes like you coming in, seizing everything they've worked for, give it to somebody else, and then congratulate them for seizing the means of production when you just robbed them of it. Faggot, that's what goes over your head. Nobody wants to live in a state where they're robbed and pushed around. That's what National Socialism fixed, it found a middle ground between the abuses of capitalism and the abuses of the state. That's why anybody who tries Socialism has to bow down to adding some aspects of Capitalism. How fucking dense are you?
WHY DO YOU THINK THAT IS?
Serious question: why? Why do you think that? Why do you think any so-called Socialism ends up keeping aspects of Capitalism? Is it because, I dunno, people hate being robbed and need some concessions to keep placated? Or is it dat ebil porky ruining our glorious workers utopia?!?!?!?! That's got to be it! Yeah, porky!

Incredible that after 70 fucking years people are still ignorant on National Socialism and Hitler. Just the fact that Hitler made the kikes buttmad for literally decades, almost a full century, shows that he was doing something right.

nationalizing your companies != kike socialism

middle school tier
never change, leftycringe

Then why are you calling nazism socialism if it's a system you hate so much.

Typical OP, cherrypicking like a glorious winged faggot.

If I were a mod I would permaban you just to watch you cry about it

Fucking called it. If you're not even going to try, fuck off back to your containment board.

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Who's stonewalling? I asked a question about how nazism compares to socialism and you went off on a massive tangent. Now answer the fucking question, how does it compare, or admit that you're bullshitting because daddy adolf told you to.

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Reread my post
Then read it again. Keep reading it until you stop being a faggot. The only successful form of Socialism was National Socialism. This is a fact.

That post is a massive tangent that fails to address my question, which is this:
HOW IN THE LIVING FUCK DOES NAZISM CLASSIFY AS SOCIALISM
No, they doesn't mean you can sneer and call names, it doesn't mean you can go on tirades about unrelated crap, it means answer the goddamn question in plain English.

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Natsoc wasn't sustainable. reichsmark would have plummeted if deutschland wouldn't have gone to war. this is a fact.

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So it's confirmed, it doesn't classify as socialism, and all you've got is dank reaction memes and name calling. Good to know.

Can you proveit would have stayed stable

Nope. Germany secured an economy that it was able to generate towards a war. War economies don't happen unless there's an economy already in place to transition out of. You don't go from millions of reichsmarks to reasonably priced bread and say "hurrr, broken economics!!!!!" As always, leftists show they now shit about money. Which is why you fags support a government where money is meaningless and non-existent. If there's no money, there's no need to understand it! Check-mate capitalism!!!!!!!!!

Considering that Germany was in an economic boom during the 1930s while countries like the US were in full on great depression, I would say…

YES! IT'S PLAINLY FUCKING OBVIOUS THAT IT WAS STABLE YOU GODDAMN HOOKNOSED YID

There is no comparison between NSDAP Germany's outlook on non-Aryans and modern day cuck Germany's outlook.
He'd be disgusted and completely sickened.
Anyone could could tell you this.
If there's one thing that literally any westerner could (and probably would) tell you that is 100% true it's that Hitler would not have been happy with Europe's current predicament in the slightest.

It was built on debt and war economy moving towards the remilitarisarion of the Rhineland, the ensuing war was essentially required else the economy would have nosedived, which it did anyway because hitler was a failure as a commander, and bit of far more than he could deal with.

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Correct, he is saying that it doesn't classify under your definition of socialism.

I would like you to know that I did not read your post. You are a garbage pile of a human being and Israel will be a glass parking lot in no less than 50 years.

Bet on it, kikel

The very essence of socialism that can be told to you by even wiki is that there is no private property
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socialism
Read a bit.

Whatever makes you feel warm and fuzzy, fam.

A boom isn't stability. It's a boom. And what usually comes after a boom, user?

that's communism, retard, not socialism

They both entail no private property, the primary difference is that communism is stateless, with no hierarchy.

Yet when Americlaps call something "socialist", that's probably not what they're thinking.

I wasn't meaning to say that your definition was necessarily wrong, just that it was different to his.

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Oh, right. Still, most think socialism means "when the government does stuff"

My question is how does nazism compare to socialism, you quibbled and rambled and went off on tangents and did everything except answer my question. Even now you go for paragraph after paragraph of tl;dr.

You know what, forget it. You clearly don't have a straight answer.

>stonewalling yet again
Wew lad. Fucking wew.

NOT REAL SOCIALISM
NOT REAL COMMUNISM
WHAT KIND OF SCOTSMAN ARE YOU?
NOT A REAL ONE!

Quibble all you want about compromises and "forms" of socialism. It doesn't meet, the definition, it doesn't qualify.

How can you be this stupid?

It's ok to not have an argument, just accept it and move on.

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Take your menorah and deep throat it till you puncture something vital and bleed out

What is democratic socialism???
Ah man, I've never heard this before.

But you wouldn't call a car a truck, no matter how it's painted or how much you autistically screech about it.

Pic related

You're a joke.


You didn't read my post. You're literally taking what I wrote and rewriting it back at me.
Kill yourself.

Oxymoron. You clearly don't know much about the definitions.

No u

No, definitely you.

You're the one who said that something that's literally called Socialism isn't Socialism.

Nah fam, it's all in you.

If it would get them votes, a politician would.

You can call an apple a pear but that doesn't make it one.

So, you don't know what either means? Man what a psychological projection this is that leads to:
Which is not an argument.

No, see, what is this tactic? What the fuck are you doing? Making nonsensical statements and dressing them up as somebody else's words, fuck off.


Just leave already.

Nice strawman, should've tried replying to something I actually said. Secondly, where's the fucking source.

LOL

Because it isn't socialism, and your attempts to say it was resulted in essay length diatribes of crap.
There is no compromise
There is no flexibility
Private property = not socialism, and that's all there is to it.

W-w-what? You can't look it up yourself? Are you really this retarded user?
That doesn't mean what you think it means, retard.

No, misrepresenting my argument is a strawman, and that's precisely what you did. I didn't say it hadn't been tried, you threw that in yourself.

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No retard, I'm saying it leads to it. Not that you think it. Learn reading comprehension and come back.

And again, right over your head. If truth was hair, you'd scalp yourself just to dodge it. You can't address anything without falling back on your cultish sperging. You are a joke and nothing but a joke.


Okay, buddy.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oxymoron
merriam-webster.com/dictionary/communism

I think it needs clarifying for the viewing public that "private property" in this context generally refers only to the private ownership of the means of production (eg. businesses), and does not cover "personal property", which is things like your TV or weed stash.

Merriam is a credible source you stupid nigger.

And I can say that peeling an orange leads to nuking Iran, is that valid too?

Oh look, more namecalling.

Oh look, more of nothing to say. Just like the rest of the thread, zero input, zero consideration, zero self-reflection. You're a brainwashed mouthpiece. I will never get over how leftists claim they're for the people when they put no thought whatsoever in what people want or need or how they even function. Everything either has to conform to your fantasy or else it doesn't exist. How do you live like this?

Just hide the thread, it's become such a clusterfuck.

And I can say that anarcho-capitalism is what we have today, is that valid too?

They literally got so asshurt after being forced to work honestly for once that they invented the Holohoax.

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I bet you think the Democratic People's Republic of Korea is a democracy too.

Whats next? You're going to say that communist russia wasn't real communism? Oh wait…
also a representative democracy is still a democracy you retard
Honestly kill yourself Holla Forums. You lying, equivocating son of a bitch. You can't go a single day without using your own definition for things (which is no more than self aggravating propaganda), that isn't real nonetheless. Which is self evident in this thread (and leftypol in general). Here's what you brainlets always do:
Every fucking time.
Image related is for you.

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It's actually centrist-authoritarian ideology. It's a mixture of big government and modern social programs combined with Hitler's ideas of purifying and finding old aryan culture. This is different to Fascism, for example, since fascism is far right RWDS and soviet communism LWDS. Hitler wasn't a very good military leader, but he had some good ideas to contribute to his economics policy and political system, which was proven when NatSoc germany took on, essentially, the entire world and survived for over ten years, only falling when Japan fucked up and brought America into the conflict, and when Hitler attacked the Societs to try to gain an advantage even though ideologically NatSoc and Soviet communism weren't all that different to eachother.

Fuck, I meant aggrandizing. Anyway, I'm going to bed I'm very tired because I actually work for a living. Unlike some people… (/leftypol)

Honor, loyalty, pride, strength and wisdom.

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moar pol threads pleezzzzz

THE GAY COMMUNITY

More extreme socialism.

This video will explain the basics of NatSoc