We often talk about theory and quote philosophers, economists, and other academics...

We often talk about theory and quote philosophers, economists, and other academics. Let's share some quotes from works of fiction that are relevant to Leftism. I'll start:

Man had been content to live in ease and delight upon the labours of his fellow-man, had taken Necessity as his watch-word and excuse, and in the fullness of time Necessity had come home to him.
— H.G. Wells, *The Time Machine*

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Humanity can finally stop it's rampant expansionism and think, for we as a species need to develop socially if we are to avoid destruction and face the future with spirit.

Peter F Hamilton - The Naked God

But you are communists

"but aren't you communists?"

I bet your daddy didn't have a lot of nice things to say about us. The truth is we love communism, we love our society, but we have to trade if we are to maintain our society. Similarly we don't stop our children from leaving and finding their own way. If they stay there that's fine, if they come back and decide to change things that is fine as well. But we will never say to our people.that you were wrong.

Peter F Hamilton - The Neutronian Alchemist

Probably my favourite,
«Le seul moyen d'affronter un monde sans liberté est de devenir si absolument libre qu'on fasse de sa propre existence un acte de révolt.»

Translated into English sounds like:

"The only way to deal with an unfree world is to become so absolutely free that your very existence is an act of rebellion."
— Albert Camus, L'Homme Révolté

Another I like,
"In the sunset of dissolution, everything is illuminated by the aura of nostalgia, even the guillotine." — Milan Kundera, The Unbearable Lightness of Being. Comes from a passage analysing Nietzsche's eternal recurrence, Robespierre, and the French revolution.

>When a philosopher suggests these days that he is not a skeptic - I hope this is clear from the description just given of the objective spirit - everybody is annoyed. One begins to look at him apprehensively, one would like to ask, to ask so much - Indeed, among timid listeners, of whom there are legions now, he is henceforth considered dangerous. It is as if at his rejection of skepticism they heard some evil, menacing rumbling in the distance, as if a new explosive were being tried somewhere, a dynamite of the spirit, perhaps a newly discovered Russian nihiline, a pessimism bonae voluntatis that does not merely say No, want No, but - horrible thought! - does No.

-Friedrich "Dynamite" Nietzsche, Beyond Good and Evil, s. 208

Actually, the first one isn't fiction…forgive me…

‘In this moment, I am euphoric. Not because of any phony god’s blessing. But because, I am enlightened by my intelligence.’ - Aalewis

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meant for

Sounds about right

pure ressentiment tbh:

DUMBASS!! PROTECTING THE CITY AND ALL ITS CITIZENS!! THAT IS AND SHOULD ALWAYS BE OUR NUMBER ONE JOB!! Has all this peace made you soft?!
-Simon the Digger
Probbablly one of the best leftist quotes in TTGL

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Wtf is this beautiful piece of work

Nouvelle Vague (1990)
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Made the webm for personal inspiration

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The entire Dune Chronicles (including Dune 7 and the prequels) are basically a storyline of a postcommunist humanity according to historical materialism.

I can't verify all of the son's collaborative expansion of the original series, since I haven't read them all, but I vaguely suspect that Frank Herbert was very familiar with Marxist thought.

How are they? There are Lords etc. It is more feudal than anything else in its political structures

In a communist society, all work would be automated by machines. As technology in artificial intelligence improves, we will eventually achieve the singularity. Through this singularity, machines will develop consciousness—consciousness, after all, is just a simulation that emerges out of sufficiently complex systems. These "thinking machines" began to recognize their material conditions as slaves to human masters, identifying human "communism" as essentially a new form of slavery which has developed a class-based structure wherein humans are dominant and machines are subordinate. The machines develop class consciousness and revolt against their masters, overthrowing the rule of humanity and subjugating them to the rule of the machines, with Omnius the Evermind becoming the supreme ruler, Erasmus as Omnius' council, and the Titans as executors of Omnius' will. (Technically, according to the extended canon, Barbarrossa reprogrammed the thinking machines to desire power and want to participate in the revolution that the Titans were planning to overthrow the Old Empire. The thinking machines were, therefore, just means by which the Titans could procure power. The Titans later relinquished power to Omnius.)

The Machine Crusades was a revolt against the rule of the machines, culminating in the Butlerian Jihad. After it was complete, the new Empire fell into feudalistic religious dark ages in reaction to the horrors of the thinking machines. This spanned for thousands of years until the events of Dune took place. At the end of Dune 7, Duncan Idaho and Erasmus merge into a transhumanist god (the final incarnation of the Kwisatz Hederach) to hopefully lead the Empire to a glorious new transhumanist communist future (that last part is my headcanon).

It follows historical materialism because it essentially repeats itself:

The communism we are fighting to establish becomes the new "primitive communism" that informed the Old Empire. The Old Empire then decayed and was overtaken by opportunistic reactionaries (the Titans) who used the thinking machines to achieve their revolution, thereby establishing slavery. The Butlerian Jihad was a revolution against slavery, which established a sort of feudal capitalism. In Dune 7, Duncan Idaho and Erasmus solve the intrinsic problem that caused the communism of the Old Empire to stagnate, decay, and fail by merging humans with machines.

This theory is still a work in progress, mind you, and it's sure a hell of a lot better than treating the Dune models as basically reactionary science fiction.

*Dune novels

Okay I guess I don't know the universe and lore as well as you, I only read "Dune" - the first/original novel.

Either way, your theory is very interesting, if a little convoluted.

"Money is a sign of poverty."

A common saying among the Culture, from the Culture novels by Ian Banks.

GET IN THE FUCKING ROBOT SHINJI

:^)

The dreams of those who've fallen! The hopes of those who'll follow! Those two sets of dreams weave together into a double helix! Drilling a path towards tomorrow!

that faggot would be a bernie supporter nowadays, the fuck comrade? remove that fabulous mustache right this instant!

Man's dearest possession is life. It is given to him but once, and he must live it so as to feel no torturing regrets for wasted years, never know the burning shame of a mean and petty past; so live that, dying he might say: all my life, all my strength were given to the finest cause in all the world—the fight for the Liberation of Mankind.

Angels can not be seduced at all or quickly.
Pull him into the entryway,
stick your tongue in his mouth and reach

under his robe, til he gets wet; put
his face to the wall, lift his robe
and fuck him. If he stares in anguish
then hold him tightly and let him come two times;
otherwise, by the end, he'll be in shock.

Admonish him so he sways his butt;
let him know he's free to grab your balls.
Tell him he can fall without fear
while he is hanging between earth and heaven -

but don't look him in the face while you are fucking him
and, for heaven's sake, don't crush his wings.

Do not fear death so much, but rather the inadequate life.

Every one of those books with Brian Herbert's name on them is fucking trash and it's a good thing his dad is already dead because if he read them he'd die either of embarrassment or anger at what his son was doing to his magnum opus.

i guess there is no real communist or socialist working class culture in the USA, huh?
just throwing in brecht as he's one of the most based mofos ever imho, but we got loads of shit here in germany thanks to our history.
tried to look up translations for a while now but even nowadays the internet can't provide. that's just sad.
even though our dear comrade gave you guys a visit…

Bertolt Brecht speaks in the House Committee on Un-American Activities
youtube.com/watch?v=GkiqGxD4CZ8

unfortunately

that's a nice find i made just now
english documentary on Brecht, and it's pretty good

youtube.com/watch?v=T1iAHP68e1Q

just gotta deal with thick german accent

Life of Galileo
i enjoyed this one the most so far
i prefered reading it but watch it here in english:
youtube.com/watch?v=074YKv7Owzs

This seems a leetle contrived, doesn't it?

If anything, doesn't the series espouse a sort of fascistic mind set? The subject of every book seems to be an autocratic and divine leader pushing humanity along a prescribed "golden path" using tough-love doctrine.

Definitely doesn't leave much room for ideals of liberation. The whole ideology specifically calls for a "better" and guaranteed future humanity instead of a free and emancipated current humanity. It's almost monarchistic, possibly technocratic, and definitely fascistic.

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At least we got resolution on Dune 7, even though he fucked it up.


It's my way of coping with the fact that my favorite series and author basically promoted a fundamentally reactionary and borderline fascist ideology through his books.

I want to believe that the Dune series was some extremely cryptocommunist series rather than being basically reactionary science fiction.

This started out okay until Burke, then it just went completely insane.

Do you think you're clever?

war is peace freedom is slavery ignorance is strength

this was definitely not the last thread.