Go ahead and anchor this

Not really.

It's just that, if it weren't for spooks, the average Nazi wouldn't have much to say

when people just shout spook without explaining, they're just memeing and aren't serious. i honestly want it to stop, because there is merit to spookbusting.

I haven't met very many average nazis.

I can't really argue with that.

I think most "spooks" are as valid as human emotion. They may not always be right but we can't live without them.

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If some anarchists want to expand, feel free to do so, because im knowledge on that field is very limited. But please, keep it to the most basic readings, dont make an infinte list of readings.

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"Anarchists"

I don't know why you guys give them a platform here.

Fuck off. We've been part of the left for centuries.

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critique of the state is important

Yes.

Anarchists belong here significantly more than Nazis.

I don't know why you people still exist
your ideology belongs in the historical ideology dumpster

Equality is a spook.

i dont pretend that there we not horrible things done, but we need practical and concrete plans for revolution

that would require you to reconcile vanguardism with the rejection of tyranny
good luck lol

we need tyranny against the bourgeoisie as well as the vanguard the people have the right to kill the vanguard

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seems impractical
can't we just kill the vanguard before they ever seize power

I know that. More than one hundred years have elapsed since Proudhon's time so technically it would be "hundreds." You would not say I want 1.2 pie. You would say I want 1.2 PIES.

You're better than that comrade. Stop it.

no we hold them to there promise of revolution if the people (non reactionary non bourgeoisie) wish there death they should have it, no leader should chose who to purge the people should

Ehh, okay sorry

Semantics aside anarchism is rediculous.

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Yeah, it sure is red.

they provide a good critical view of the state and should be in power in a communist government to counteract some of the mistakes that were often made in the past

National socialism worked pretty fucking well I'd say.

Also, not a Nazi.

But it is not a practicable system. At least the logistics of communism are rooted in possibility.

then don't flair up, you edgelord

they are not practical they should not be in power but they should have a voice to make sure the state withers away

Is presenting an argument flairing up now?

except you didn't present an argument

all you did was say its not practical did really say why they shouldn't have a voice

Okay, anarchism is rediculous BECAUSE it will just devolve to neo feudalism.

An intricate society can not be managed under it.

i'm not an ancap though

yeah dude wtf that first point is way off

Anarchism
noun

where's the argument?
you should read a book tbh

Go read a book. Actually read classic anarchist literature then come back. You just fucking blew it with that.

What seperates your special flavor of anarchism from that? Because that system can not work without becoming neo-feudalism.

honestly learn more about left anarchism before you say they shouldn't talk

assert this

this is coming from a (ex ranarcho communist) Leninis

anarcho

Are you incapable of arguing your position?

yes

If I had a hammer, you are adorable

Spooky.

No, you just equate your feelings on spooks with concrete existence. The nazi says that society should be based on family, tradition and ethnic loyalty; but the feeling a person can have for all of these things are never concrete, and are subject themselves to outside influences.

Your foundation for ideology is not even human emotion like pain, hatred or being happy, but rather pain from loss of tradition, or happiness from family, and of course hatred not in general, but hatred for other races. Your ideology is built on shifting sands that exist only in people's minds depending on outside influence.

"spook" is the anarchist/retarded equivalent to "idealism".
since anarchists are deeply "spooked" (idealistic) themself they have to retreat using faggot language to hide their autism powerlevels.

whenever an anarchist says "this is a spook" they mean to say someone is being idealistic - while failing at materialism hard themself.
example:
"nations are a spook"
the anarchist wants to attempt materialism but being afraid from making coherent arguments this is his way to dismiss the concept of "nations" and avoid explaining what a nation actually is. basically they're saying: "it does not exist!"

on the other hand the materialist will explain you that a nation is not a "thing" of its own that exists independently from reality as an absolut ideal created by human will, god or whatever have you, but it's merely the reflection of material conditions:

"A nation is a historically constituted, stable community of people, formed on the basis of a common language, territory, economic life, and psychological make-up manifested in a common culture.
It goes without saying that a nation, like every historical phenomenon, is subject to the law of change, has its history, its beginning and end."

And blind loyalty to an ideology that has brought the world nothing but anguish is not spooky?

Oh, it was done perfectly, over and over again.

What a spooky post.

It really didn't. The USSR outlived it for one.

This is untrue. People in this very thread have explained what Stirner meant by spook. This isn't what they're talking about.

I think THe Right of Nations to Self-Determination should be there as well.

I wish every race wanted to be the best they could.

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